Pamela Hupp Case Analysis | Framing of Russell Faria

[@NootalieWalf]

I’m so glad you clarify about how ridiculous polygraphs are.

[@ScumfuckMcDoucheface]

you ma'am.... are pretty. =) that's all, movin' right along.

[@bthomson]

This may be the first instance of flirting that I personally have witnessed in KZbin video comments!😍😘👩‍❤️‍👨❤👍

[@ScumfuckMcDoucheface]

@@bthomson haha i wasnt really, i actually felt really bad saying it, i very much didn't want to make her feel uncomfortable or think that i was some creep or something... but shes just so god damn pretty! haha I couldn't help it, I had to say something. =/

[@360.Tapestry]

it's a tactic to try to make guilty individuals scared enough to confess, but it can very easily lead nervous people to admit to things they hadn't done

[@NootalieWalf]

@@ScumfuckMcDoucheface That had to have been one of the funniest notifications I’ve ever gotten, thank you so much. Great name! 👍🏻

[@reedmiller4654]

That’s infuriating. Another reason to not talk to the police without an attorney.

[@EricPetersen2922]

There’s never a reason to talk without a good lawyer, no matter innocence or guilt.

[@yayger825]

@@EricPetersen2922 if you get pulled over for speeding?

[@ScumfuckMcDoucheface]

never. ever. ever. EVER. NEVER. talk to a cop, the cops, any cops, about anything, anywhere, anytime, ever.

[@EricPetersen2922]

@@yayger825 not a criminal matter if your 20 over. It’s a cut & dry fine. So yeas that’s a good example of a exception. Or a red light, stop sign all the same. Now if your pulled over for a serious matter-accident with injury. Never say a word. Not one. Zero. If they threaten jail-cuff up and go, call your lawyer. No exception. If you have illegal substances in the car or look suspect. Eat the ticket, don’t say a word and pay it off. Talking isn’t worth it, unless your 100% perfect record and it’s a very minor offense. Even then don’t push it.

[@yayger825]

@@EricPetersen2922 what about talking to the police if you are ever falsely accused of a serious crime? Even though you didn't do it. What are the chances being falsely accused of a crime even happening?

[@Metonymy1979]

I'm so happy that judge is no longer a judge and Russ got some justice.

[@marquisdelafayette1929]

But the judge got in trouble for something completely different. Not anything related to this case. She was holding people on probation violations longer than legally allowed because she had a petty feud with the public defenders office. Which is just denying freedom to others, and the Faria case should have been a clear case of “where there’s smoke, theres fire”. She went to high school with the DA who prosecuted Russ and had no qualms tying the defenses hands behind their back. Not allowed to mention anything about the insurance change, yet the prosecution was allowed to use it for their baseless theories. She also refused to allow anything negative about Pam to be told to the jury (how her cell phone proved she was within minutes of Betsys house, despite her claiming she was home a half hour away) and all the other nonsense. The defense asked for the evidence to be turned over, and conveniently certain things weren’t. They didn’t turn over the “luminoul” photos (which is supposed to show cleaned blood) because they said the camera malfunctioned. Then on the stand at the first trial the same detective said, yeah the camera malfunctioned, but he “saw” the sink and cabinets light up proving that blood was cleaned up. Come to find out, an anonymous source sent the REAL photos before the second trial. And it showed absolutely NOTHING. And there was no “malfunction “. And then after losing the second trial, the prosecutor tried to get the evidence destroyed. They are ALL responsible for that poor mans death, just as if they pulled the trigger themselves. Hearing about all these cases where situations exactly like this happen and the cops and prosecutors go on with their lives, and even try to keep people who are PROVEN innocent in prison. And every single time they do that, and someone else dies because they want an easy WIN, they should be jailed. For life. This woman just changed her last name and moved on with her life, something Louis Gumpinburgs family can’t do.

[@Metonymy1979]

@@marquisdelafayette1929 Yeah, but you have to celebrate the little things because it's just a shit show.

[@hyperdog67]

@@marquisdelafayette1929 you summed it up perfectly, and you also made me aware of something that I completely didn't see: The police, D.A. the judge are just as guilty of Gumpinberger's death as that diabolically wicked woman. Everyone involved in framing Russ should have one foot in jail, and the other foot in a Rollerblade. They need to be held accountable to the highest degree.

[@tonganqueenb5517]

this is just what happened on the show which is not an accurate account.

[@marjoriemorris5849]

@@marquisdelafayette1929exactly. Just because they didn’t hold the weapon doesn’t mean they don’t have blood on their hands. They put an innocent man in prison while the guilty person was left to strike again. All they cared about was closing a case and getting a conviction. Meanwhile a man’s life is ruined. As if coming home to find his wife murdered isn’t horrible enough, they put him in prison for it.

[@elliebellie7816]

Why did all those insurance companies keep hiring Pamela Hupp when she kept getting fired for forging signatures?

[@Ynotnow9900]

Selling insurance is like working fast food

[@bthomson]

Are you implying that insurance companies are bastions of integrity?

[@MusicLeeSarah]

@Non,Player, Adeptus now hold on I used to sell auto insurance I sold high risk auto insurance to people who couldn't get it in a standard market for whatever reason. I took issue selling ancillary policies that people couldn't afford and didn't need hence why I'm not in that business anymore but don't call us heartless, Christ. I agree it takes a certain kind of person to sell anything especially insurance and maybe that's why I didn't make a career out of it I don't know but to say I'm heartless is inaccurate amongst other things

[@kathyclark8274]

@@Ynotnow9900 Yep, except at least at Burger King you're guaranteed a min wage paycheck. The ins racket is straight commission w/ lots of prospecting and cold calls.

[@MusicLeeSarah]

@Non,Player, Adeptus no that is a negative I took it personally because I'm tired of being grouped in with those types of insurance salespeople. Just like every bunch of apples has a bad apple every bunch of bruised apples has a good one as well. If that describes me to a t than why am I not selling insurance anymore?

[@Hollylivengood]

These officers shouldn't be trusted to charge a cell phone, let alone a case. Thank you.

[@jessicaaudate]

Looking for this comment 🤣🤣🤣

[@MusicLeeSarah]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 but 😭😭😭 So accurate!!!!

[@billieyoung9265]

In our area they are not very smart they couldn't solve a case if someone murdered another right in front of them and confessed to it later

[@davidstahlman9169]

@@billieyoung9265 l

[@lilithwilcox9074]

❤❤❤ I love this statement. Ive really tried to stay positive about law enforcement but the crap that goes down just makes me shake my head n think we're doomed as a race. I have so little faith in humanity as a whole.

[@gayleschultz8383]

I lost it when Dr. said "they can't be trusted to charge a cell phone....."

[@Lisared023]

I did, too! 😂😂😂

[@ScumfuckMcDoucheface]

Yup, I've met those cops =/ pretty sure they work in every city.

[@Mystery207]

16:15 hehe

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

This woman is a monster to say the least. It’s frightening to see how the police and prosecution were manipulated by her and an innocent man was sent to prison as a result. Just horrific. This case is frustrating yet fascinating, thanks for covering Dr. Grande.❤️

[@maureeningleston1501]

You should look into the death of Pamela's mother, I think she's another victim of hers.imo

[@ScumfuckMcDoucheface]

@@maureeningleston1501 oh wow really? This is the first im hearing of this case =/

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

@@maureeningleston1501 Thanks, I will check it out.👍🏼

[@Logan800]

gentlemen this is what we call female privilege

[@ScumfuckMcDoucheface]

@@Logan800 ... the fuck are you talking about man haha

[@ashleypeterson460]

I am from this area and know one of Betsy’s daughters. The poor daughters lost not only their mom but also their dad when he went to jail. This was such a senseless act of cruelty and I hope the family has since found some peace ❤️

[@sew161]

"These officers should not be trusted to charge a cell phone let alone a person", priceless!!!

[@angelwings7930]

Well weren’t they partly responsible for their Dad going to jail ?

[@lovelymayhem888]

@@angelwings7930 I can imagine guilt eats them up at night. It’s all very sad.

[@macwacha8415]

Not to mention they lost their mom’s insurance money. How did they support themselves?

[@paul9156c]

The moral of this story is... Anything becomes more watchable with weed.

[@rayross997]

Dr Grande is like the Godfather of mental health, he makes a not diagnosing just speculating analysis offer you can't refuse.

[@PerlaOC]

Good one 😅

[@emilyhollis4231]

We've seen it so many times, whether in real life or on a TV show; the detective gets an idea of who did it and can't see anything but that. It's absolutely terrifying how quickly you could be locked up.

[@alliwishis2652]

Not only locked up but charged and convicted I mean you will have your whole life screwed up side down as a convict I seen that a lot of times

[@skreemqueen756]

Absolutely and on the other hand people like Casey Anthony go free for,” lack of evidence!” 😳😳

[@emilyhollis4231]

@@skreemqueen756 yeeeessss! exactly!! wtf?!?!?

[@briardan9226]

Forensic science was supposed to prevent investigators from choosing who was guilty. Instead investigators still come up with who is guilty and pick and chose the science for their evidence. In this case they did not take the science provided by video surveillance as evidence of innocence. Instead they used it to provide evidence of guilt. Claiming it was staged for the purpose of an alibi.

[@babasheeny3634]

@@alliwishis2652 yes as in the Avery/Dassey case (from Netflix “Making a Murderer”) in Wisconsin. Not only was it sloppy police work but actually a FRAMING job. Disgraceful.

[@RileyRampant]

they should tattoo 'follow the life insurance' onto the back of every investigator's hand.

[@bthomson]

Maybe the police need to watch more high quality true crime videos! I can suggest a very qualified producer ( initials TG)

[@kathleenreardon8943]

Yeah the top of their hand so they can miss it.

[@jennifergarcia7417]

This is always my first suspicion

[@QuasiELVIS]

Most murders don't have anything to do with money but they wouldn't make for interesting videos.

[@RileyRampant]

@@QuasiELVIS I think its more a case of those domestic accidents that just don't make sense type thing.

[@GelatinousCube-jw8vg]

Dr Grandes really throwing out the content as of late. Clearly he’s been hard at work not diagnosing anyone.

[@void7100]

Yesss ✊

[@Thundersnowy]

...speculating about what could be happening... 🤣🤣🤣

[@thinktwice8860]

Absolutely! With my armchair psychiatry degree, my diagnosis is ASPD and malignant falsehood syndrome! 🤪

[@EricPetersen2922]

I need a diagnosis 😀🌵

[@hef3281]

chill, the doc been active with daily content drops.

[@jesslovesrammstein]

This case is one of the most shocking cases of complete incompetence I’ve ever seen. Russ Faria’s alibi was absolutely airtight - how *anyone* could have found him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is unfathomable. Meanwhile Pam showered twice, saw Betsy that day and also conveniently was going to be the recipient of Betsy’s life insurance. what?!?!?!?

[@JM-ot8ux]

Jurors said they weren't allowed to consider Pam Hupp or any evidence against Pam Hupp. I think the judge made words to the effect that, "Pam Hupp is not on trial here."

[@jessestewart169]

@@JM-ot8ux true that's exactly how it happened.

[@Mehki227]

@@JM-ot8ux Regardless there was reasonable doubt. 4 people said he was elsewhere.

[@ItsMsSue2U7154]

Yeah the bumbling cops should be fired. Fools!

[@ItsMsSue2U7154]

It has a lot to do with money and representation and how people see you. Manipulative people understand this clearly. People are fooled by looks and money. Sad part of reality.

[@dimplesd8931]

The Dateline podcast “The Thing About Pam’ is a deep dive into this case. Pam Hupp is a monster wrapped in a demon, topped off by the devil. NO fictional villain comes close to this woman. Great analysis Dr. G

[@infinitejest441]

Diabolical

[@stephanied6711]

I watched an episode and Renee plays her well it's creepy

[@lizbethfry4812]

@@stephanied6711I missed something...an episode of what ?

[@dellaashton6169]

@@lizbethfry4812 The TV show "The Thing About Pam" based on the true story of the diabolical killer played by Renee Zellweger. 6 episodes

[@lilithwilcox9074]

I've listened to some crime channel stuff abt her. Scary.

[@richardhart9204]

"These officers should not be trusted to charge a cellphone, much less charge a person with a crime." I think that's the good doctor's finest cold burn, to date.

[@Andrea-nom]

Yes, the best!

[@revenevan11]

Agreed!

[@VoiceForTheSilenced]

Can we just take a moment to acknowledge how fluid Dr. Grande delivers all of this information! On point!! 🙌👏

[@caroljackson4093]

With not as much as a fumble of words. Yep, he’s a smooth operator. However, sometimes his monotone voice and lack of facial expressions are eerie 🥸🥸🥸. IJS.

[@myquest666420]

The St. Louis local legend, Pam Hupp, getting some classic Dr. Grande speculation. I’m strapped in!

[@MusicLeeSarah]

Hey are you from St Louis too?! If so where did you go to high school 😉😉😉

[@myquest666420]

@@MusicLeeSarah lol Bishop DuBourg high school. The ultimate STL question.

[@MusicLeeSarah]

@@myquest666420 SMALL WORLD! My neighbor, my first real boyfriend, and a handful of my friends went there! Representing for the south side. 😀 Lol. Of course I had to ask. it would be unSt. Louisian of me if I didn't 😉 Myself: Oakville and did my freshman yr at Central VAP

[@ramonaearnest4709]

@@MusicLeeSarah Normandy 1978! STL... Home of Toasted ravioli, pork steak, Ted Drew's, Gooey butter cake, Vess soda, Bush beer Old Vienna potato chips, Imos pizza! Cardinals and Blues! I recently discovered that my 4x Great Grandpa Samuel Denny was the original founder of Ladue, Mo. The name back then was Dennyville!! All of this info is documented by a sheepskin document given to him by President Harrison in 1818 for 167 acres. A book about the history of Ladue called, "Ladue Found" by Charlene Bry gives an excellent description of how it all came together. Lindbergh road used to be named Denny Rd! I have a long family history in STL!

[@MusicLeeSarah]

@@ramonaearnest4709 👋!!! And highway farty far and Pat Maroon! Go blues! Go Birds! GO CRAZY FOLKS!!! 😉 (But now I've transplanted to good ole Festus. It's official, I'm a Jeffco Hoosier but still a South Countian at heart 💛)

[@ChristinePerez903]

When usually it is the husband that kills his wife but sometimes it can be someone else. Great video Dr Grande!!! Hope you are having a nice day!!

[@rishaa682]

“usually its the husband who kills the wife” thats not fucked up at all

[@ChristinePerez903]

@Jack Fisher no I am not. What I meant to say is in sometimes it was the husband that killed his wife and sometimes it was someone else. That why it’s important to investigate.

[@asdfasdfasdf111666]

That quip about comparing a lie detector test to using a speedometer to measure gas level is great!

[@stephendoing2253]

My dad dated Pam's mother for a few years. It was scary to learn how close my dad was to this stone cold killer...

[@emmagatewood3898]

What was her mother really like? I've often wondered about that. Have you seen the Renee Zellweger "The Thing About Pam" miniseries on NBC? If so, is that an accurate portrayal of Pam's mom?

[@IzzyOnTheMove]

Dr. Grande's humor is soul medicine ❤

[@pinecone1113]

I love the fact that you take time to dunk on polygraphs anytime they are brought up in cases.

[@DavidWicksiam]

My Man, " These officers should not be allowed to Charge a Cellphone" Fell out my chair laughing!

[@bthomson]

Ever since George Floyd(rest in peace) it has been harder to defend (not refund!) the police. Their job is tough but it is to protect and serve not escalate and belittle!

[@michelmurphy1979]

Don't exaggerate.

[@michelmurphy1979]

Regarding falling out of your chair, that is.

[@DavidWicksiam]

@@michelmurphy1979 Pardon me? Be away from my face Male Karen!

[@DavidWicksiam]

@@bthomson These Cops are obviously fucking idiots. Anytime you have the victims husband in jail for murder when someone else clearly did it... Moe, Larry and Curly would do a better job. Some of you people on KZbin are something else.

[@sharondowling8896]

"These police officers should not be trusted to charge a cell phone, much less charge a person with a crime"!!! Brilliant analysis as usual, Dr Grande! Law enforcement should regularly listen to your podcasts!❤

[@TheSkeetergirl]

I saw Pam at the Chillicothe facility a couple of times when I was ministering another inmate. She was in one of the enclosed visitor cubicles. To me, just from watching, she just seemed larger than life and over the top. She has a rare ( but not desirable) personality that you could spot from the space station.

[@bthomson]

Very interesting to hear a bird's eye view of this persons affect.

[@TheSkeetergirl]

@@bthomson It was chilling. There had been several news magazine programs on tv by the time I first saw her.

[@chartroy]

I would like to understand how Pams husband stood by her for so long

[@carlinetorweihe4246]

Chillicothe, OH? Thank you for this real information. This must be a special high security prison.

[@NeapolitanApe]

I love how so many people who watch Dr. Grande have personal experience. It's a small world.

[@charlesdexterward7781]

I appreciate Dr. Grande's effort in rearranging those 4 tiny plants every video. Who will decipher the secret message he's sending??

[@bthomson]

👐👽👾🤖👻

[@madeleine9907]

I think it's cute 😃💗

[@azinegg]

They’re quite phallic” ….. don’t you think?..

[@autumnedwards4448]

Listening to Dr Grande talk about the police and their magical abilities is just what I needed today!😆😆😆Thank you for your analysis doc!💙💙

[@Whol3NothaL3v3l]

I've heard that during interviews it's always good to ask open-ended questions. But Pamela recommends open-ended answers.

[@kati-ana]

WHOA! This woman is a demented cartoon character! Just imagine living inside her head.

[@leswest6049]

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[@infinitejest441]

🤯

[@bluecollarlit]

Yeah, I kept thinking back to all the "keyed" cars in her neighborhood *and* at her work. Early warning signs. That's a lot of random negativity just exploding out of her.

[@SunniDae333]

I remember this case.... This lady was nuts and she had a vendetta against that man for no good reason

[@juliecrane9647]

Her reason was huge...money...at any and ALL costs

[@peggypeggy4137]

Cops did a horrible job with that investigation. The entire prosecution, including the police should be charged with crimes regarding this case. It makes me sick to think that if Pam would have been charged with the murder of Betsy when she should have, her mother and Louis Gumpenburger might very well be alive today. Pam's everchanging stories were ridiculous.

[@trinathompson5656]

@@juliecrane9647 she was a hoarder of money

[@grumpee8432]

There were $150k worth of reasons for her to deflect all accusations towards him.

[@cturdo]

Corruption in the St. Louis Prosecutor's Office is legendary in recent decades.

[@GenXfrom75]

I'm watching The Thing About Pam right now on Hulu... So I decided to come back and watch Dr. Grande's video.

[@Chris-tg3qy]

I seem to remember that Pamela told the police Betsy named her as beneficiary because she wanted to leave her husband and she trusted Pamela would use the money for her daughters and their education. She never gave the daughters any money. Huge red flag. I don’t even know how they missed that one.

[@tracymorgan5386]

I have to say I’m baffled why Betsy, would make a woman she didn’t really don’t know all that well the beneficiary of her life insurance policy and trust her to look after her daughters when they barely knew Pam instead of trusting her husband to do it. I think Pam may have tricked Betsy some how it’s the only thing that makes sense.

[@ConnieLeinicke]

@@tracymorgan5386 Is it possible she viewed Betsy as an “easy mark” due to her cancer diagnosis, knew (from her previous experience forging insurance docs) how to fraudulently and expertly change the beneficiary name (and forge Betsy’s signature) such that Betsy had no clue this had happened and Pamela also knew that the act had to take place before Betsy was contacted by the insurance company with final policy update paperwork? I am not knowledgeable about insurance processes, nor was I following this case in real time, so am just wondering.

[@susanodonnell4609]

Also the daughter's could have been beneficiaries and also Betsy's mother could have been too, so it doesn't make sense to make Pam the beneficiary

[@ladybuggs11]

@@susanodonnell4609 I agree that making her mother the beneficiary makes more sense. Her children could not be beneficiaries because they were minors.

[@maureeningleston1501]

Please Dr Grande can you also cover the mysteries death of Pamela Hupp's mother, to say it was under suspicious circumstances would be the understatement of the century.

[@ashleypeterson460]

Yes I agree! Always after the insurance money

[@patriciamarcou6577]

Yes!! Horrible! Her poor mother, and Betsy, died such violent terrible deaths, and they both saw her coming at them.

[@MusicLeeSarah]

A local case and another Injustice and atrocity of the Missouri court system... 🤦🏼 Dr Grande, you should do an analyzation of some of the prosecutors out here!

[@ScumfuckMcDoucheface]

hey that's actually a really good idea! taking a look at crooked judges and prosecutors in general would be very interesting... what makes them tick, what motivates them to do such wrong =) great idea.

[@MusicLeeSarah]

@@ScumfuckMcDoucheface Well thank you! (I have to admit, your username made me wonder if you were being sarcastic but I'll take it as you weren't 😉) I bet a lot of the crooked ones are motivated by the money behind corruption. But nonetheless, them, along with the ones that aren't motivated by money, I would love to know how they all tick as well. For example what is their mindset or how did they justify charging and then prosecuting someone for allegedly stealing something valued at less than $2? Or what triggers their tunnel vision? And then what keeps them so loyal their said opinion??? Is there a trait or a factor that they all have as a commonality? Maybe we will soon find out!

[@billieyoung9265]

Kansas not much better sadly

[@paddyodriscoll8648]

I loved this. Made my day. Can’t believe people still believe in polygraph tests. Also, I never drank or smoked pot, or did drugs growing up, but I had long hair. Cops stopped me all the time claiming they smelled pot on me, and would search me, run my name,,, and so on. When I told them I didn’t do things like smoke pot, they would just smirk and keep searching me. They simply embraced their confirmation bias and believed only what they wanted to.

[@annfeeney1662]

I love your dry sense of humor that you impart into your analysis, like your statement that the O’Fallon police have no business charging a cell phone , no less a murderer.

[@thinktwice8860]

Thanks once again for covering this case, and your insight! Your knowledge really helped cut through the ineptitude of the police.

[@alexisalexi5161]

You have a podcast now? Wonderful!

[@patriciabuuck5277]

My God Russ the husband was obviously in shock at finding his wife He should have been treated for instead the police run him in determined to find him guilty and close the case. Lazy inept bastards. That little flowers cactus looks perilously close to the edge of the table 😀😎

[@elvirafeher4254]

@@crochunter35 maybe Russ only saw the one stab wound where the knife was sticking out off.

[@Mama_Bear524]

@@crochunter35 because he’s not an expert, he was in shock and upset, and she was probably really bloody. Therefore only able to see one stab. Crime scenes are messy

[@mtimm001]

I love Dr. Grande...his analysis, candor , and humor is always on point..He's inspired me to go back for my Psychiatric/Mental NP .🙌

[@Thundersnowy]

I'm quite worried about the little rebel plant in back. I hope it didn't fall from the edge. ;) I love Dr Grande's channel. Making my day!! Very interesting!

[@jessickalush3305]

His humor's so dry, he needs to water his plants a little extra to compensate. Lol

[@bthomson]

There may be no more cared for plants in the whole entire world than Dr. Grande's cacti and if it wasn't so cute that everybody worries about them I would tell everyone to RELAX!🌵👍

[@kathleenreardon8943]

Well done Dr. Grande. Again we see the police deciding that a person is reacting wrong when a love one is murdered. It sounds like Russ was in shock at the crime scene. This really emphasizes the importance of real evidence. I'm married to a lawyer who is former District Attorney so I know my rights if I'm ever taken in for questioning by police. Don't say anything except I want my attorney and refuse a polygraph. They cannot make you take a polygraph and the only folks who look good after a polygraph are people who can keep their heart rate steady, even while lying.

[@Geronimo2u]

I had a client who would record all of his wife’s rage, emotional abuse and verbal abuse and it saved him twice out of jail. Looking at her you would never know, a 5 foot two attractive woman but would accuse him of being aggressive and abusive with her constantly on the phone to other people, it was her way of trying to build a case. Now they are divorcing, strangely enough her male supervisor is paying her lawyer fees at this time. She has already found her next victim, this will be her fourth marriage next and it was his first. There were red flags that he did not pay attention to like many past relationships/marriages, Manipulative behavior, being more comfortable with other men, focus on money, lying about many things or exaggerating things, gaslighting, etc.

[@ConnieLeinicke]

A friend’s same situation. He recorded everything. The night she tried to kill him, his 911 call recorded her true essence.

[@calmcactus]

Gosh, sounds similar to my narcissistic ex husband… was married twice before me (my first marriage), had women eating out of his hand, he lied about having an affair, gaslighted me (I was seeing a therapist at the time because I thought I was going crazy!), he focused on money, exaggerated so much, attention seeking (wanted to steal attention from our child!), etc.

[@amyk.2500]

I’m SO glad he’s suing. I was arrested in 2020 and the police charged me with three felonies that they literally completely made up. All my charges were dropped and I’m suing now. These pig cops need to be brought to justice

[@bigmelswonderland]

"Perhaps the latter activity was to tolerate the former." 😄😆😂🤣💀 I choked on my sparkling water. Thanks, Doc!

[@annfeeney1662]

Isn’t it amazing that we must protect ourselves from allowing manipulative people into our inner circle.

[@NickM_FirstofHisName]

Yup. We don't know how dark their intentions can be

[@donnacook7066]

Thanks for reminding us “how fragile freedom is”

[@lanceanthony198]

Thank you Dr Grande. You’re the only KZbinr I’ve seen who consistently promotes critical and rational thinking when it comes to criminal conviction and reasonable doubt. Every jury needs people like you involved, I think much more people need to make the distinction between legally guilty and guilty in reality. The 9 minute crime window alone should have cast reasonable doubt on Russ’s guilt

[@willywokeup9112]

I will say that youll never run out of content. People are insane, and the things they do are unimaginable. More and more people are getting crazier by the day.

[@CharcoalTeddy]

Love your channel Dr Grande! Really appreciate your unbiased and scientific analysis. And that you post daily! You should have your own show on Netflix. Great stuff!

[@audreyd2799]

The Pam Hupp story is one of the most bizarre stories I've ever heard. It's such a sad state of affairs when one "suspect" can dictate how an investigation heads. I do not understand how her lies went undetected by anyone. She wasn't that great of a manipulator. Her grandiose attempts at staying in the limelight should have been a big clue. Thank you for following this case!

[@anitacathrine8942]

The level of overkill is frightening!! It takes a special kind of evil to do that. Thank you so much for another great video .🌵 you are a man with great knowledge! I am thankful for you sharing it with us🌵

[@melindaduncan3073]

I really enjoy your content. I’m have lupus so there are many times I have down time so your videos get me through my days. Thank you Dr. Grande!

[@maureeningleston1501]

Thank you for covering this Dr Grande......what a crazy case this is can't wait to hear what you have to say.

[@mikepopham7191]

Outstanding analysis Dr. Grande. That particular subject really hit close to home for me as it seriously seems to me, freedom is just another illusion in the grand scheme of things that so many folks REALLY take for granted and I must admit that I am no exception to this issue. This is very concerning to us all and I definitely think question in regards to personal freedoms vs. people's ignorance seems always a very worthy cause for greater awareness. I really appreciate your incite Dr. Grande as I have learned a Tremendous amount of useful information that has been very helpful. Thanks again! Looking forward to the next one!

[@peggypeggy4137]

To this day the DA is quite vocal and stands by her belief that Russ was guilty. Even after he was exonerated. Even after she was in fact, partially responsible for the deaths of Louis G. and Hupp's Mother. (through negligence). I hope she gets criminally charged with something.

[@cottontails9003]

Good morning Dr Grande. Brilliant analysis as always. You,your content and channel are the best. Thank you Dr Grande.

[@Lola-Anderson]

Dr grande is definition of “if he wanted to he would” With how amazing he is with putting content out

[@bthomson]

In fatigue able!

[@jamesparlane9289]

There are too many cases where someone who did not do a crime is 'fitted up' by corrupt police and prosecutors.

[@kimberlee1980]

My cousin worked with Russ so I was interested in the case as soon as it happened and I KNEW it wasn't Russ and suspected Hupp from the beginning!!!

[@user-cs1un6sp1wRennata]

Awful and tragic events...Thank you Dr. Grande for another great informative video.

[@eikoqdupree101]

This case made me feel better than I felt in a long time.i was wrongfully sent to prison. Because law enforcement officer wanted to be a hero and quickly close a case. I was just convenience. And since I had no experience with self defense or money for help.Also faulty beliefs in our justice system. I felt confident i would be be treated fairly. Wrong!!! Thank you for this story.

[@inamolinari6912]

Very informative and easy timeline to follow...Thanks!

[@kellybishop7499]

Wonderful thoughts, thank you it was very informative

[@lisayork2624]

It’s the prosecutor who decides to take a case to trial, not the police. It’s the jury who found him guilty based on the case presented by the prosecutor, not the police.

[@LawnMowerFan]

It’s always a good day when you’re early for a Dr. G upload 😊

[@bthomson]

Maybe your user id is sarcastic!?

[@nucleum5026]

@@bthomson why would it be?

[@LawnMowerFan]

@@bthomson is yours?

[@peachylady]

@@nucleum5026 we all know why.

[@nucleum5026]

@@peachylady fill me in.

[@joniminton3488]

Finally, I've been waiting for this, she was something else! Thank you!

[@TheChiamora]

I went to school with her. We weren't friends or anything. We knew each other though. I had 1 conversation with her during those years. I have to say,I wouldn't have thought she'd turn out like she did. I would have thought it of some other people I knew,but not her. Just goes to show you, you never really know.

[@bthomson]

One of the main threads that runs through so many crime stories is how plausible and charismatic the villains are! Wolves amount us sheep!🐑🐑🐑

[@l.w.paradis2108]

Which is frightening in itself. Still, you never tried to befriend her, for some reason.

[@TheChiamora]

@@l.w.paradis2108 of course not. We hung out in different groups of people. We were never rude to each other. Just had our own friends.

[@robertamurphy1504]

Just started watching the series on TV. 1st episode and was curious and only got through the the 1st 30 minutes. Clearly it was Pam by the timeline, etc. Wanted to know more. Your cast was clear and concise. THANK YOU!

[@DFTBAandDS]

Dr. Grande showing us his thoughts about the fallibility of police. 👍

[@fiatfixie4344]

He hangs himself out there like that. Got to respect that.

[@bthomson]

If you mean he gives reasoned well thought out opinions then I agree with you.🤔

[@katemcmyob339]

I have recently discovered your channel and am looking forward to watching more. It’s only fair to acknowledge when algorithms are helpful. Thanks!

[@timdernachn9851]

Agreed. Cops and prosecutors need to stop this "gut feeling for guilty people after being in this job for so long" BS and focus on facts and evidence (and not destroying or losing the evidence along the way).

[@EdutainmentSeeker]

Grande, I’ve grown to enjoy your tone, your temperament, your occasional insight and all your quiet sarcasm.🙂👍

[@bthomson]

Occasional?

[@mwatts6755]

Stuff like this shows how incompetent some police really are. There’s lots of innocent people in jail right now.

[@fiatfixie4344]

Or pricks who present their "narrative" with no concern about how it affects that person in court.

[@mrsv5736]

Will definitely check out your podcast! Love your videos so I’m excited about the podcast. You do an amazing job with the analysis 👏🏼

[@CBrown86]

Love the shirt today Dr G!

[@bthomson]

How 'bout every day!

[@tanyawadley1822]

Excellent analysis.

[@KarlaElaine100]

Crime scene photos were withheld from Russ’s attorney for years. It appears that perjury may have also happened. There’s a book by Joel Schwartz (attorney for Russ Faria), six or seven Dateline episodes and now a movie is coming out.

[@nihilismistheonlyway4680]

thats why im here... just saw on hulu theres episode one of a mini series on there featuring renee zellweger

[@deniece0821]

This woman is the deflection queen. Never gave a direct answer to any one question. Didn’t work out so great for her. 😉😁

[@d-marierasberry3449]

Greed(or the love of money) never brings happiness; more often tragedies like this! I 💙 the way you combine comedy & crime! Pamela was like many women I know & that's why my best friends are men!

[@GGiblet]

I remember this insane case! The whole thing seemed so needless. You were on fire Doc!🙌👏😄💙🌞💙

[@susanwalsh3517]

I had a very good insurance company that worked FOR me when my husband was killed in an accident. The agent even filed a claim for me on the car. I didn’t even know he did that until later. They worked directly with the funeral home to pay any bills I had. I didn’t have to be the middle man. Everything was taken care of. What I don’t get, and think should be illegal are all these policies people take out for hundreds of thousands of dollars on someone’s life. Unless you make a large sum of money and think of needing a large sum to pay off bills when you are gone, no one should be allowed to do that and especially if the other person doesn’t know about it. No one should be allowed to take out an insurance policy on someone else’s life.

[@michaelarojas]

Thanks for the upload on my birthday! 🎂🥳

[@bthomson]

Happy Bday!🎂🍰

[@michaelarojas]

@@bthomson thank you!

[@ReaperCH90]

Very interesting case. I hate it when an innocent person gets convicted because the justice system attracted too many lazy and / or stupid people. If I could give a recommendation for a future case: US chess world champion Bobby Fischer.

[@revenevan11]

That would be an interesting case!

[@prosegold]

I’m pretty sure he already did Bobby Fischer !! Check it out ! This channel is great, he’s covered every subject under the sun

[@gigi9301]

@@prosegold Yep! Dr Grande has "not diagnosed" Bobby....BTW..." I assume the latter was performed in order to tolerate the former"...smoking pot in order to tolerate Conan the Barbarian....Classic Grande!!

[@zenawarrior7442]

Thanks again Dr G for sharing a case I didn't know, great analysis, & excellent wit. Glad husband won his case as legal system hard to challenge😊❤❤

[@skepticusmaximus184]

Gotta love that you don't just bend over and lick boots for the establishment. You're about as honest as they get man. Kudos to you. 🙂👍

[@Mizantropija]

I freaking love your small little remarks. It is a nice addition to the dark and depressing topics you are discussing.

[@TomJones-gb5es]

When I get arrested, forget the lawyer… I’m asking for you Doc !

[@Adventurousavacado.]

Just love pull youPuns doctor G!! I hope everyone gets yours your sense of humor 😅its a treasure 💓

[@buttercatpaws9674]

Open, frank, about your business today Doc ♥️ love a man not intimidated or constrained by what folks may think....you go Dr. Grande🐈🐾

[@bthomson]

Hey! So what might people think?

[@mariacristinarodriguez1973]

Very informative and interesting. Also, can we take a moment to appreciate Dr. Grande's sense of humor? I find myself waiting to see what he'll say next

[@sdsurfgirl60]

Thank you, Dr. Grande for this video. I hear Pam may be charged in the murder of her own mother in addition to Betsy's murder.

[@alexbonnet6772]

Awesome video as always. As someone who has contracted with federal law enforcement for most of his career, I applaud your assessment of polygraphs. They provide a false sense of power to law enforcement and over all, cause much more harm than their perceived good.

[@nancilane5069]

Great analysis (and thanks for not diagnosing!-LOL) of this situation. I just finished the mini-series, The Thing About Pam, on Peacock. What a horrifying situation. She's flat out evil....

[@lnc-to4ku]

What a bloody savage she is! Great video, Dr. Grande, loved your comment "These officers should not be trusted to charge a cellphone, much less, charge a person with a crime." 😂

[@emanuelaemanuela]

"Just a reminder..." aaaaaaand... I love it!!!

[@orchid4me]

I love your sense of humor!😅🤣

[@Geronimo2u]

My client used his cell phone to record his wife’s rage yelling and abuse, which kept him out of jail. His wife , a good looking , 5ft 3 lady was very smart and tried to portray him like an abused person to friends on phone and others. He recorded dozens of rages and verbal/emotional abuse. She works in office supply sales and sadly her male supervisor is paying her divorce lawyer fees.. manipulative people are to be careful with

[@josiekerr6832]

Excellent analysis of this case. The series was riveting. I wonder if Russel’s relationship with his step daughters was ever repaired.