Panasonic CT-27D11E CRT TV Retro Gaming Review

[@eletro_doc9529]

I love this video because this guy's got not just a retro TV, or a retro console, but also a retro CABINET in the back. This is hardcore retro gaming.

[@riggel8804]

I love that entertainment center. It's got cedar drawers and a swivel for the BVM. Picked it up cheap at the thrift store. You can pick up these old entertainment centers designed for crts cheap.

[@eletro_doc9529]

​@@riggel8804 I was just kidding, but I really liked your setup. Makes me feel like I'm visiting my cousin in 2004 again. It's really nice doing TV reviews too, because we never know what to expect. Cheers!

[@WulfOdinsson]

Awesome video, good jokes, scanlines look terrific, it helps a lot of sets when you spend a few days with the setting and like you mentioned dropping brightness and other levels to a more moderate level also relieves the stress on tube prolonging life possibly. If you can dim the lights while playing that will help scanlines emerge. By the looks of this set it would definitely be a keep on going type of guy, honestly wouldn’t have believed it has component at all, it looks like a late 80s model and it would only accept coaxial! Because of your videos I picked up a 32” Toshiba af45 and realized it’s brilliance it’s now my favorite at the moment, thank you!

[@riggel8804]

Awesome thanks for the feedback. A big reason I keep making these videos is so other people can swoop up these tvs NOW, while they are still available. Glad to see one of my vids helped you take the plunge and pick up that 32 inch behemoth. I've picked up 2 tubes that had the contrast and brightness turned all the way up when I got them. Both of them had a very tired look to them.

[@WulfOdinsson]

@@riggel8804 your definitely doing a service here and helping people find options as well as keeping working things out of the landfills for atleast a little while longer! 👏

[@jimmyschmidt14]

Because of your videos I picked up a 32”

[@punchfrancescka3980]

Just got me one of these today! Used your video as a little preview before buying - so glad I did. Informative and fun video, as well as an excellent TV. 👍

[@riggel8804]

THanks! Yeah one of these reasons I make these videos is to help people looking to pick up an old TV. Glad it helped.

[@ws666andy]

Just got a Panasonic CT-2707DF, same M tube as this one in the video, really loving it. Only $10 😁

[@jaystephens3115]

Just located one of these on Faceberg nearby in 32” (my ideal size due to seating distance). Looks pristine in pics and obviously sitting in the home of a wealthy person who takes care of their stuff. Seller then said the most beautiful thing: “we hardly ever used it”. She’s asking $7. Lol. I’m going to get it in a couple of days and I’m stoked. I will say I slightly disagree that the chassis design is ugly. Plain, sure, but everything looks decently proportioned and stuff. That ass will be hidden, so no biggie. And for me, it gets major points for being BLACK instead of silver. I hate silver CRTs. It just looks cheap to me.

[@califaern3sto]

I got a panasonic ct-27sf12t1 from 1995, s video is amazing!

[@raveholly]

I’m about to pick up a ct-27l8g ,, looks just like this. Glad to see this positive review. It will be my first crt with more than just composite inputs. I’m really psyched

[@oscarortega1693]

How did it turn out ?? I’m going to get the same one and I’m wondering how the component is?

[@raveholly]

its great except one big thing is this model has a flawed jungle chip which causes a shimmer to the image. the color is great but the shimmer could be a deal breaker for some. @@oscarortega1693

[@John__Olive]

@@oscarortega1693 I have the L8G, the component is fucked up due to faulty video processing of the jungle chip. Still a very sharp tube and s-video is just fine.

[@6vibe150]

Yooo been waiting for a new upload I was watching your old videos on color correction and calibration!

[@riggel8804]

I got lazy and missed last month. I should have something coming out every month at lest through 2022. I got a 1cc on cadash recorded. I also got a bad ass pc monitor to review and I'm gonna do a vid on how to electrocute yourself with a homemade degauss wand.

[@KindaCool]

I had this one back in the day! Even back then I knew the back of that set needed to be fully hidden inside an entertainment center! It did perform pretty well from what I recall, but of course I wasn’t as picky then as I am now. 😁

[@Fahrenheit38]

I have a 32 inch Panasonic I carried down two flights of stairs sitting in my garage. I should really take a closer look at it sometime

[@riggel8804]

I would take another look for sure...you got all kinds of cool stuff lying.

[@Fahrenheit38]

@@riggel8804 I went through a stage of never saying no to free CRTs. Between my parents basement and my garage I got like 12 big boy CRTs .

[@riggel8804]

@@Fahrenheit38 Me too dude. I'm glad I got into it when I did. They are drying up here in socal. How about you? Are they drying up in your area?

[@joshforsyth5710]

This was my first tv I bought when i moved out of my parents house. I played n64 on it with composite. I needed a tv for Ocarina of time and this tv was the tool for the job.

[@riggel8804]

Ocarina of time is the video game equivalent of comfort food.

[@FrederickW]

Props for showing Red Earth in the beginning 🤙🏻

[@NoEscape459]

lol same story. Couldn’t find a Black Tau… I could find the silver one no problem all around me, but I really wanted the black one. I settled on this exact same model. Sleeper for sure

[@Cowclops]

I got a CT27D11 brand new in like 2001 and used that as my home theater TV for a few years till i gave it to my brother and then he just... left it at his friends house he moved out of when they were selling it. RIP. He didn't want to have to deal with it at and that was before CRTs switched from "plentiful" to "legitimately and increasingly rare" so I don't really blame him. 27" non-flat tubes with component in are really holy grails these days - they may not be as sharp as sony PVMs and other pro displays, but they're typically larger (more friendly to play games from a couch across the room rather than crowding around) and were at least for a time easier to find for a low or zero price. But even that well has dried up...

[@riggel8804]

yeah. I watched it all happen. I picked up pro monitors for free back around 2014. No one cared about them back then. Then that dried up and I started picking up high end consumer sets. That dried up about 2 years ago. At this point, if you want a crt you better just pick up whatever you can. CRTs are cool but these days there are other options. Back around 2010 if you wanted low input latency you needed a crt. It's not like that any more.

[@Cowclops]

@@riggel8804 For sure - I played all the way through FF6 on an analogue super NT and a CX48 oled which i use as my computer monitor. Thats low latency, and great motion clarity (even better than CRT) thanks to black frame insertion - plus a much bigger screen and no screen linearity issues. Not a lot of drawbacks to playing games that way. But I also have it hooked up to a 20" PVM (20L2) in my basement for when i need maximum CRT nostalgia. I got that right around the turning point where it wasn't trivial to get them for free, but a nice 600 line PVM was like $250 on ebay (I didn't do local pickup but strategically went for one that was only in NH so it was a short trip to NY). It came in one piece and has been working great since.

[@riggel8804]

@@Cowclops Hell yeah. haha I'm in a similar situation. I'm actually gaming on a low lag projector right now with a 100 inch screen. If you like big screens projectors are the way to go but I still love my crts. I probably game on crts the most. CRTs are still a good option for people new to gaming. I see sony Wegas for sale in my area all the time for $200. That's still a good deal compared to what kind of LCD or projector you can get for $200.

[@nathanimes4041]

Just picked up a ct 27L8G, good to know that the menu jumps around on yours as well lol. I seem to have a weird shimmer/pixel crawl issue with certain colors, as well as geometry and convergence issues, but despite all that it looks amazing.

[@riggel8804]

Hell yeah. Git u sum scanlinez.

[@nathanimes4041]

@@riggel8804 Well, i picked up a 27d11e awhile ago, and holy crap is it gorgeous. I honestly prefer it over my sony 27fv16 for most games. Dark textures simply look stunning. The sony has a little bit going for it in raw sprite clarity sometimes, but other than that i find myself preferring the picture of the panasonic. how are these so slept on??

[@nathanimes4041]

Also, i had to abandon the 27L8G because it does NOT have horizontal size in the service menu, and the 27d11e thankfully DOES have the basic geometry adjustments. This seems to be a little known Achilles heel of certain lower end sets...

[@raveholly]

I’m picking up this same one tomorrow. Super excited

[@Dionysus_333]

This was great, thank you my dude

[@riggel8804]

Ye

[@SiincereARC]

I'm sold, I'm subscribing.

[@davidbenning10]

Man, I missed my chance to get a Panasonic CT-27D20B. I didn’t know they looked so good. It had component, but the weird backside made me think it wasn’t so good.

[@riggel8804]

I must have passed on a few myself over the years. Don't hear much about the Panasonic.

[@guillermozalles9303]

You are a true crt conoseur bro, you're a friend in my book.

[@riggel8804]

Thank

[@fmccloud]

Funny you mention this television wouldn’t get a second look on the curb, that’s exactly where I found the 32 inch version I just picked up. lol

[@tgamer9159]

Have you ever seen Component inputs that shares the composite video Input for the Y in component?

[@riggel8804]

No. Have you?

[@jaystephens3115]

I have a 32” Samsung flat panel from 2012 that does. Only one I’ve ever seen.

[@CriticalTechReviews]

I have this upstairs, my mom bought it in 2001. It's behind the 65" Vizio M I got her, that replaced the shitty 42" Vizio E I got her in 2013. I only have one issue with this TV: the HORRENDOUSLY loud 15KHz whine. It gave me headaches as a kid, and it does now. I don't know how to rectify that. maybe make a wooden roxul lined box around it with a small opening with a fast computer fan for airflow? That feels like so much work. My favorite sets are the HD Sonys 36" and up. They're silent from the high scan rate, big enough to not feel cramped compared to modern LCDs when put near your seat, and 4:3 works beautifully for KZbin talking head style content. I never knew how much I liked CRTs until they stopped giving me headaches lol.

[@riggel8804]

Don't worry in a couple years your ears will be so fucked up you won't hear it anymore. If it's really bad it might need a new flyback.

[@EMMA-GAMES]

Good choice on alien vs predator to show! That tv looks dang good, I need to get my first CRT since childhood and I'm gonna be on the look out for one in my area for cheap.

[@riggel8804]

Get em while you can. They are drying up in my area. Good luck hunting!

[@barrybarry292]

I love the video and have the same tv. Would you be willing to give me the values you have in the service menu? I set mine to factory and messed up the picture quality

[@androidfleshbot2854]

you seen that dudes KZbin Tau Video where he shows how to get into the service menue .. it helps alot .. you can do lots of adjustments . cheers

[@GreenHawk84]

I have a CT-27D10B and I started to default some Serviceman Mode settings thinking the values in the manual were the right ones. I know now I should have written down the factory numbers. I am pretty sure some of these settings were tweaked at the factory, so I may have saved the service manual defaults over them :( I don't think they were too far off from default but I definitely changed some of them. Now I am on a quest to get things back on track, but I noticed you said that default settings on these sets aren't even that good. Have you ever accessed Serviceman Mode on your Panasonic? If so did you set anything? I do not think these have the RON, GON, BON so I can set them on a SMPTE image. I might have to get one of those color filter cards.

[@riggel8804]

I never messed around with the service menu on a pani but I got a video on adjusting white balance and another one on how to color calibrate.

[@LameGaming]

Found a ct-32d11, light gray with m tube about 1hr away. Hope the guy replies back. In person are they noticeably sharper than A class tubes? Would it be worth the trip? Its free but gas isnt lol

[@riggel8804]

I am not sure what an A class tube is. Is that a Thompson tube? I have a Thompson tube on my d series. The Panasonic m is way sharper. The Panasonic M is the sharpest shadow mask I've seen by a long shot (excluding the toshiba af which is in it's own league). I would recommend picking it up especially if it has component. If you like shadow mask you gonna like a M tube.

[@LameGaming]

@@riggel8804 A class tubes were just the designation for consumer tubes, where-as M were reserved for pro monitors and some arcade monitors. Theres debate on reddit about these consumer M class tubes, alot of well known guys on there are saying manufacturers strayed away from the A and M designations in the late 90s and early 2000s..... they are saying these pani M class tubes are no better than A class tubes. But I just got done listening to Andy King on zez retros crt podcast and him and retrotech steve were even talking about M class tubes in consumer sets and how they were higher quality. Couple that with your experience and Im leaning towards M class tubes being higher quality..... Im curious enough to go grab this 32d11 anyways lol. On a side note...Its crazy how you cant find a Tau, theres about a half a dozen here in central IL right now.

[@riggel8804]

@@LameGaming I haven't heard the reddit argument against the m tubes. There is some really good stuff on the reddit but there is a lot of bullshit too and a lot of the bullshit comes from the top guys on there. In fact most of the useful stuff I find on there comes from random people. A lot of guys on there like to talk like they are a professional expert on crts (which doesn't exist anymore) They say more than they know. I don't know if the A tube is the same. It could be. Has anyone uploaded any side by side comparisons? My dude RGB Rob speaks well of the M tube. Have you seen his channel? Australian stuff but good stuff.

[@LameGaming]

@@riggel8804 Your exactly right and yup.... Its the same top guys talking like the M panasonic tubes were only hype. I mentioned how thats funny because for years Ive heard about the jvc D303 with panny M tube as being a great tube and that you have a museum size collection of crts and from your first hand experience with the tube its one of your sharpest slot mask tubes..... Still waiting on their reply on that one. Yup... I heard andy king talk about Rob.... He was around before Bob and been meaning to look up his videos.

[@stonerdemon]

I have a beautiful 27inch Panablack from 2007, one of the last crt models made by Panasonic and the image quality is sublime, but the yuke has a minuscule, 2mm lean to the down right. Almost imperceptible, but I entered the service menu trying to fix it and I messed up the geometry a little. According to the service manual, there's a way to get these settings back to default, but it just won't work. Do you know how to get the service settings back to default, by any chance? Thanks for reading!

[@riggel8804]

I never mucked around in the service menu on a pani. But i wouldn't worry about it much. I fuck up the settings all the time. Just go back in and fix best you can and play some games. If you're yoke is tilted you got to loosen it ,grip it with your paws and twist. Watch out for the copper wires. They give you a little zap.

[@Reluctant_Hero]

Great video. I’d love to hear about your setup. How are you splitting the video simultaneously over five (or more?) sets? Multiple GCOMP switches?

[@riggel8804]

I been planning on doing a "game room tour" maybe I will get around to it in the next couple months. I use an extron component switcher it's got like 15 in and 15 out. They used to be dirt cheap. Not sure anymore.

[@Reluctant_Hero]

@@riggel8804 Great tip about the Extron, thanks, I’ll look into it. Right now I use a GCOMP switch into a RetroTink 5X that then feeds into a 1440p monitor. But I’ve been debating pulling my CRTs back out and I recently came up on two more CRTs. One is a Sony 27FS100 that was modded for RGB with the component inputs still available. The second is a Sony PVM-1340 that I found in dim: e-waste bin. The PVM is showing signs of life, but not really in working shape. Thankfully I found a CRT repair guy in my area. So I’m crossing my fingers that he can get it up and running.

[@andyboxish4436]

I guess we all have our own tastes, but I love that ass, personally 😆 Having brought about a dozen CRTs into my house in the past couple years, I can tell you that when a CRT has an ass like that, it's going to be a lot lighter than other styles of tube for the same size. I can baaarely lift a 27 inch trinitron, but a stubby tube like this is always lighter. I had a couple of RCA Thomson tubes and they are surprisingly light and small and easy to carry for a 27 inch TV. Underrated picture quality too. People are obsessed with trinitrons now but so many other CRTs were fantastic. Plus these tubes aren't as deep and fit nicely into a corner, and you never see the back anyway, lol

[@riggel8804]

The Trinitrons are super heavy. Everything is lighter. My Toshiba is really heavy too and I think it's got a flat booty now that you mention it.

[@chadbrig1611]

The picture looks awesome and IMO, that is as perfect of a consumer CRT as you can get. This series of CRTs is known as Superflat (in U.S.) and GAOO (in Canada). You can always tell it is a Superflat/GAOO because of the darkened horizontal strip at the bottom of the chassis, just below the Panasonic logo. I used to own a Pansonic Superflat set made in '98 and it was s-video only but the picture was amazing. One thing I did notice on my Superflat CRT was that with 3D games and video content, the image had sort of a soap opera effect, similar to what you would see when you turn on the 120hz setting on some LCD tvs. Riggel, do you notice the image has a soap opera/overly processed/overly smooth look when playing 3D games and watching video content on this set?

[@riggel8804]

Aw man I haven't tried either but thanks for the info. I can pip in some Willow dvd action and check.

[@TheMikeyb86]

@Chad Brig this isn't a Gaoo or SuperFlat. Gaoo models have "XF" and SuperFlat models have "SF" immediately after the screen size number. Not all Panasonics are Gaoo/SuperFlat, just like not all Sonys are XBR. Cheers!

[@riggel8804]

@@TheMikeyb86 cool. Thanks for the info

[@SeveredLegs]

I just picked one of these up. Composite channel is crooked and looks bad. BUT....tried the component channel and it looks amazing. I was shocked at the disparity of the two. It's also not very heavy, which was a plus. I wonder if there is a way to access debug mode using an official remote to be able to reset the screen, since it's a little off. Any ideas?

[@riggel8804]

I would advise avoiding composite completely and forgetting it even exists.but...if you want to mess with it that's cool too....i mess with stuff all the time. You need to find out how to access the service menu. If you don't have a remote just buy one on ebay. It doesn't need to be the exact remote. Just get one similar.

[@SeveredLegs]

@@riggel8804 yueah all my stuff is set up for Component. I was just shocked that a 2001 tv had such bad composite and such good component.

[@riggel8804]

@@SeveredLegs this tv is weird. It was a budget tv when it came out. I don't know why it has a monitor grade tube in it. But it does. Maybe they had a bunch of pro tubes lying around. It might not have a composite comb filter since it was a budget tv

[@SeveredLegs]

@@riggel8804 what is a monitor grade tube? Are you suggesting that they made a budget TV but had extra inventory of something nicer and it made more sense to just throw it in there?

[@riggel8804]

@@SeveredLegs exactly. Monitor grade is pro monitor grade. Same tubes that went in panasonic professional video monitors

[@versedbridge4007]

Used to have the same one but the tube was very weak and blurry, and had bad solder joints so it met my bb gun and a shovel!

[@riggel8804]

Hell yeah

[@RetrofIex]

Hey are you familiar with the taping a small neodymium hack to remove outer border color impurities (assuming the degaussing coil is ineffective) ? Is that safe for a Trinitron? What size magnet would one need?

[@riggel8804]

Yeah, it's the only thing that works in certain instances. I detail how to do it in one of my videos. The video is titled something like, "General CRT Service and Repair".

[@RetrofIex]

@@riggel8804 thanks. I think the key is to use a small magnet and nothing overpowering. Will check it out

[@riggel8804]

@@RetrofIex ye. mess around. have fun. you wont hurt the monitor.

[@overnightdelivery]

I tried using a magnet that was too powerful when the TV was on. When I got near the yoke, I could feel the current from the magnetic field going through my fingers. Pretty freaky haha. People often scream bloody murder about CRTs being life threatening but as long as you respect them, use some antistatic gloves and avoid going near the anode cap or capacitors when it's running, you will generally be fine. It sucks to get zapped but unless you have a bad heart condition, you aren't going to die unless you get careless. Although I'm not brave enough to adjust the yoke when running.. yet.

[@riggel8804]

@@overnightdelivery I was getting some help/hanging out with a professional tech last week. I had to discharge one of his 34 inch tubes. He told me to man up and just pull the anode cap off with my hands and tap it against the hole and the grounding strap. He laughed at me when I made a makeshift discharge tool out of some stuff on his work bench. He made me feel like a bitch. Ended up getting a 20 inch vga monitor and some stuff to make a degauss wand for free so he can tease me all he wants.

[@DARTH-REFLUX]

Cool video man! Subscribed because I'd love to see more. I just picked up a Panasonic CT-27D31E locally for $15. Does my model have the M Tube as well? It's the same model as yours except it's 31E on the model number instead of 11E. Picture looks good on mine too

[@riggel8804]

Gotta crack er open and sneak a peak.

[@jayhussain6959]

Hmm… I was interested in a similar set, as this lady down the street has 36” Panasonic gaoo for sale. I heard the blues are overpowering on the component input, how did you find it? I was looking to replace my old zenith set that has a purity issue in the corner, the zenith is beautiful but I don’t know how to fix it.

[@riggel8804]

All tvs have there quirks. A lot of flat trinis look good on the "cool"setting, which pushes the blues. The color on this panasonic looks amazing to me but you can judge for yourself. I think I did a good job recording it. That is how it looks in person. I would pick up that 36 inch Gaoo asap.

[@jayhussain6959]

@@riggel8804 yes excellent video outlining the details within Panasonic crts. I’ve talked with the lady, fingers crossed she thinking about my offer, another thing I have to think is pizza bribing my friend to help me move the colossus of thing up/down sets of stairs. I’m not big fan on the Sony wega/trintrons or d series even though I grew up having these sets, I want to try new crts hopefully expanding the horizon of grossly underrated brands of consumer television sets.

[@REDFOXZERO]

I have Panasonic gaoo only RCA AND SVIDEO Dam it’s good I pick this one for my wife and kid and thin I take it I have Sony BVM And PVMs but this one just wow I love it I play PS1 and n64 and some old consoles I like it a lot I hope the people realize what great tube Panasonic have in start mid late 90’s

[@riggel8804]

Since I got this tube I have been talking to people about panasonic. Everyone that has one loves them. I don't know much about the Gaoo. I will look into it. Thanks for stopping buy.

[@REDFOXZERO]

@@riggel8804 thanks bro here sub for you :)

[@crtinkering7323]

I found one of these in a panasonics in a 32 model and i also was very excited with the pic quality. Well, i temporarily put it inside my shop on a rolling dolly , right next to the rollup garage door. Well because of that massive lip that sticks out in the back... the next time I went to open my garage door it caught that lip on the back of the tv and boom!! The tv flipped forward on the glass totally messing up the shadow mask screen! i was so upset lol. Funny thing is a couple of weeks later my father in law found a 27 in Panasonic model in a rent house and threw it in the back of his truck to give to me...well by the time he got home it had already flipped forward on the glass screen and was sliding around in the back of the bed lol...but to my surprise it actually works fine with only a few minor scratches. So anyways, yea... that's how i found Panasonic. lol

[@riggel8804]

Haha. The scratches give it character. No CRT is complete without some kind of problem.

[@crtinkering7323]

@@riggel8804 that's right! Hopefully if I ever get some time off I'm going to upload some videos of some of the TVs I have. You actually inspire me to kind of create some type content because there's really not much out there besides the major CRT KZbinrs like retro RGB and retro tech. Not really appreciate just seeing other consumer models and you do a good job reviewing them 👍👍

[@riggel8804]

@@crtinkering7323 Thanks man. Yea there isn't a lot out there for consumer grade usa crt reviews. There is this dude "RGB Rob" he is an ausie with a youtube channel. He inspired me to do something similar for USA CRTs.

[@user-vi3tb3bw5t]

I use a CT-27D11E from 2001 Running all my retro systems on it via s-video. I love it, fantastic tv, guy who I got it from had given it to me for free and calibrated it as well. I must completely disagree with the weight being the same as a Sony though. I have a wega and I cannot pick it up on my own, while I can move the Panasonic 27 very easily, Its literally half the weight my guy...lol.

[@riggel8804]

Cool thanks for commenting on the weight thing. Maybe mine is heavier...or maybe I'm getting old.

[@dlipford370]

It's true, I was thinking the same thing I have a 27 Wega and this tv, and the Wega weighs like 30-40lbs more. I absolutely love this Panasonic though. They made some beautiful crts.

[@RetrofIex]

Seems like the quality CRTs are definitely drying up but there’s still an abundance of low end cheaper bare bone CRTs like those Magnavox RF only types that probably cost under $100 when they were released in the mid to late 90s. I see those everywhere on the marketplaces because nobody wants an RF only typically retro gaming

[@riggel8804]

It depends where you live. I'd say most major cities in the USA are drying up. Poor countries still have a lot of crts...I noticed I get a lot of international people watching my channel.

[@RetrofIex]

@@riggel8804 yeah very true. I know that CRTs are very common for watching tv in India

[@ArthurKannibal]

Have you considered getting a MiSTer for your sets that have component input?

[@riggel8804]

Hell yeah I like cheesy puffs. Got a video on it.

[@ArthurKannibal]

@@riggel8804 just found it lol

[@alexanderjones3830]

I have the same TV but my overscan is much worse than yours. I can barely see the red on the grid. Service menu doesn't let me resize horizontal. How did you get yours looking so good?

[@riggel8804]

That's weird. There might be a pot inside the tv. Have you tried opening it up? I haven't made any adjustments with mine.

[@Anewbyss]

What makes the Panasonic M tube so good? So this tv has similar components as a d series JVC?

[@riggel8804]

The M tubes look sharp with good geometry, black levels and white balance-it's a good tube. No I don't think the components inside the D series are similar to a Panasonic however some D series have Panasonic tubes in them.

[@Anewbyss]

@@riggel8804 sorry for the late reply. Thank you for clarifying that for me!

[@riggel8804]

@@Anewbyss ye

[@crazycoollady]

I have witnessed that Panasonic gets a good reputation while Funai gets a poor reputation, at least when it came to VCRs. What are your views on Funai TVs?

[@riggel8804]

never heard of em.

[@achannel3884]

Epic! Isn't this a dot mask which is the best type of shadow mask tube to my knowledge?

[@riggel8804]

I don't know. I think only the really old ines are truly shadow mask. The majority are slot mask. I don't know a lot about shadow mask.

[@fairussukarno1400]

As panasonic crt tv user,you should use panasonic tau giga 1080i or panasonic quintrix f TX-32PK25D

[@riggel8804]

Hd crts can die a ignoble death and burn in a special circle of hell designed specifically for them.

[@fairussukarno1400]

@@riggel8804 yeah, it's true. I think it's better to use standard definition one

[@arishojaiee6483]

Do you know if the 36” has the same tube.. one popped up and I’m thinking about getting it

[@riggel8804]

i dont know but I would give my left nut to find out. 36 inch panasonic m tube > 20 inch pvm imo

[@arishojaiee6483]

@ lmao. Ok wow so probably as good as gold

[@arishojaiee6483]

@@riggel8804picking up the 36” thus weekend fingers crossed it’s the same tube. I’m getting it either way cause the picture he sent looks amazing

[@RGBLoungeBrasil]

So... do you think these Panasonics are better than the newer Sony Wegas? I really need to know, because I'm having the chance to choose between a panasonic and a sony wega right now, I'm in doubt about which one I buy. I don't know their models, but I can say that they're both gray color.

[@riggel8804]

If all I had to go off of was grey sony wega vs grey panasonic I'd pick the sony.

[@RGBLoungeBrasil]

@@riggel8804 I already have a Panasonic, but I'm getting rid of it (burnin on screen). Since I never had both side by side to compare, I had to ask, because I really love the Panasonic, specially after I've RGB modded it (I even posted some videos).

[@riggel8804]

@@RGBLoungeBrasil All the Sonys have excellent tubes in them however some are worn out or distorted at this point.

[@Adam-rt7lp]

@Riggel How does this compare with the XBR?

[@riggel8804]

It's hard to compare the 2. My xbr200 is larger with an aperture grill and a flat-screen. The panasonic is none of those. Personally, I fancy large flat-screen sonys so I'm biased but this panasonic has better black levels and white ballance compared to the sony. The colors also look more vibrant on the panasonic but that might be due to hours.

[@MultiMarvelGeek]

Man, I wish I had space. There's a similar model for sale in my city. I knew these were great sleeper CRTs, though! I did find a Panasonic Tau CT-20sl13g on a curb last year. I got it because I wanted an answer to the Toshiba AF models. Gotta tell you, I'm puzzled at how much thicker the scanlines are on my 20" Tau compared to my 27" D-Series. 0_o. Hope you can find a Tau and maybe do an ultimate shadowmask TV comparison vid. :D. Have a good day, dude.

[@riggel8804]

Haha thanks! You never know. I might find one. The CRts are still out there but they are drying up.

[@davidbenning10]

@@riggel8804 That's for sure, CRTs are getting harder to find. Speaking of which, have you found a curved Toshiba A-series? I've heard good things about those and would love to hear your take on one of those when you find one! :)

[@riggel8804]

@@davidbenning10 I've heard good things too. I'm on the lookout for one

[@davidbenning10]

How do movies or old tv shows in 4:3 aspect ratio look on this set?

[@riggel8804]

Don't know. Never tried. I watch all my movies on my 36xbr200 regardless of aspect ratio....crop dat shit.

[@jesusberry4832]

excellent video..... PANASONIC is a good brand. . . .

[@Tiknuttle]

Big question. But is it better than a Sony Wega? If you had to choose between this and a high end Sony CRT what would you take??

[@riggel8804]

Sony

[@Tiknuttle]

@@riggel8804 Thanks.

[@riggel8804]

@@Tiknuttle ye

[@ApexRed2023]

I have almost the same tv mine doesn’t have component like I wanted

[@EzRida04]

How many inches?

[@soulreaperx7x]

How many do you want to take?

[@frenchpet]

I THINK they were selling these for $200 at Walmart in Canada in the early 00's. It might be the one I owned back around that time. "your back be damned" hahaha I've carried a few trinitrons home (only to find out they were non functioning ~_~) in the last couple of years. For all y'all young persons out there, reddit crt noobs etc, these will mess up your back believe us. And this isn't just some jolly ol back pain, it's deep nerve pain. Sucks, takes about 2-3 months for the worst of it to repair itself. I've stopped collecting for the time being cause my back just cannot take it any longer. Passed up on the BIGGEST trini a few weeks back. There was no way I could carry it down the street without some wheels and help. I have no idea how the hell we dealt with this crap back in the day, I don't remember it being so bad haha. I think every boomer is rooting for OLED to get to CRT levels of awesomeness. They are close but not there yet. Retroarch shaders are getting better too. Nothing beats CRT but we aren't gonna be able to keep this up when we are old (older) men. You are totally right about the whole BADGE thing. In the long run, it's BETTER for us guys who aren't e-clout morons. More CRT for us. Some of those 80s CRTs are amazing for NES. I've got in my collection a 80s/early 90s JVC with NO rca in on it. I can tell you with 100% honesty NES/GENESIS are funner and look better on this TV than both of my D-SERIES, my TRINIs and anything else. It's a mono speaker but holy crap is loud. You can see it in the background here kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJDVn2mcr9uJr6M Great channel guy.

[@riggel8804]

Best deal out there if that's right. My Mitsubishi was sold for $3,000.00 in 1999 and it doesn't look as good as this Panasonic.

[@frenchpet]

@@riggel8804 I don't remember the circumstances but I remember my dad being like "They got a bunch of them on a palette for $200" and he got one for me. First game I tested was alpha 2 on sega saturn and I remember being like HELL YEAH THIS LOOKS AWESOME. I doubt he remembers but I'll ask him about it next time.

[@riggel8804]

@@frenchpet cool yeah give him an ask. I didn't care about picture quality when I was a kid until I was 12 and my dads friend gave me a newer Sony. Even my simpleton 12 year old self was impressed.

[@jaystephens3115]

Regarding the seemingly easier time we had with these TVs back in the day, besides being younger, most of us also weren’t dealing with monster sized flat screen Trinitrons like we’re all wanting to lug around today. Or even curved Trinitrons, which are also heavier than other curved sets. I guess it depends on where you lived but around here I didn’t know anyone with a Trinitron when I was a kid, and the biggest sets I usually saw were 25-27”ish. Smaller in the kids rooms.

[@segatasankuro]

Damn, my wife is going to kill me if I bring home another TV, stop showing me these awesome CRTs 😭 but seriously, great find there buddy I wish I was more open minded and get into difrent brands instead of hording Sonys.

[@riggel8804]

Those Toshibas are just as good as sonys. At least some of them are. But yea, Sony is king of the CRT. I hear you on maxing out space. I recently sold my 35xbr48 to clear up some space. At this point if I want another CRT I have to let one go to clear up space.

[@marioarty]

I have a 32D11E. It’s so much better than my Sony 27FS320

[@RetrofIex]

The FS320s, at least to me, dont look any different than a 100 series Wega. They are also prone to geometry issues the same. Starting to think that a Wega is a Wega is a Wega

[@cerealfamine1]

A guy about an hour away is giving away a 32D11CE, going to pick it up in a couple days. Pray for my back. Lol

[@marioarty]

@@cerealfamine1 good luck!! TV is gorgeous and vibrant! One of the best CRT’s I own

[@cerealfamine1]

@@marioarty fingers crossed 🤞

[@winnington23]

I have a CT-27D12 and a CT-27SL13 Tau and the D12 is far better. A lot of the Panasonic sets with component in the early 2000's have a bad jungle chip that cause a poor image with lots of distortion, these Panasonic D models do not have that issue. I don't like flat CRTs so I mainly collect curved with component and these sets are close to the best. This is right up there with a Philips. The biggest downside to this TV is the service menu options aren't great. They have good geometry though because the adjustments were all done in the factory via glued on magnets. Basically even though this set isnt Sexy, its one of my favorites because the picture is so good.

[@riggel8804]

@@winnington23 cool thanks for the info. I've heard other people praise the Phillips sets but I've never seen one.

[@hellbehemoth1235]

Sharp 32U-S600👌

[@retroromsspa1061]

Hola amigo una pregunta yo tengo una tv crt samsung tx-s2779h. Con entrada hdmi dos entradas para video componente una salida para audio digital y un puerto usb. Mi pregunta es que clase de tecnología manejan los crt samsung es mascara de sombras o rejilla de apertura

[@riggel8804]

shadow/slot mask.

[@retroromsspa1061]

@@riggel8804 muchas gracias amigo saludos me gusta tus videos

[@riggel8804]

@@retroromsspa1061 ye

[@yepp5922]

When you find a TV at the side of the road and decide to use it for content

[@riggel8804]

haha. Could have been the title to this video.

[@nobodytonobodysbusiness]

Curved tubes are better all around IMO. I also prefer shadow mask over AG.

[@riggel8804]

"Well, that's just like....your opinion man."

[@LameGaming]

Man bro, you remind me of me 🤣🤣🤣 I have crts crammed in the closets, under my desk, in the basement, garage, scattered through the house.... The only difference is it seems you have an ol lady who supports your addict.....I mean hobby lol. My ol lady is always complaining.... So I had to tell her I wouldnt bring anymore home, so now I just have to find creative ways to hide them 😖 I wish I could have them all out on display like this. I wanted my newly rgb modded jvc in the living room next to the 70" so i could play my retro shit in the living room instead of having to hide in the bedroom but she thinks its tacky 🤬 Looks like between us we could start a crt museum 🤣 Anyway.... That tube looks fantastic! I have a 27" black tau with a vibrant tube id be happy to trade 🤣 I think im going to be on the lookout for one of these or the 32" jvc.... Do you know what all models could contain this tube?

[@riggel8804]

There is a redit post describing how you can tell what tube is in the jvc d series. I can find it for you. Luckily you can tell by the serial number on the back of the chasi (all the tubes themselves say jvc). Most people want the Thompson or the Panasonic. I have both and I highly prefer the Panasonic. My wife has been oddly an benign presence in my crt hobby. I keep waiting for her to get annoyed and she simply doesn't care. She told me once that she's just glad im at home playing video games and not going out to strip clubs or spending boat loads of money on motor sports. I tried putting my xbr48 in the living room because I thought it was a good looking crt. My wife thought otherwise.

[@LameGaming]

@@riggel8804 I think I know which thread your talking about, I was hoping to identify my pre d series tube by that info but couldnt. Figured out by the tube model it was thomson/rca. Do you know if any of the taus had M tubes or was that just a curved tube panasonic pre tau ,and d-series tube?

[@riggel8804]

@@LameGaming I found a thread with info. It sounds like the info applies to any jvc crt. Not just the D series but I could be wrong. Some people question wether this info is accurate or not. Hard to tell these days but I can say that those M tubes are definitely unusually sharp. www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/comments/lvpncg/comment/gs1yuba/

[@LameGaming]

@@riggel8804 I think thats the one I looked at when I got my 36" jvc av850 but its serial didnt have any letters.... but good to know the sharp 32L-S440 / CL32S40 also has the Pan-M tube. So the jvc d-303y, the sharp 32ls440/cl32s40, and whatever model your panasonic is have the m tubes. What was your model again?

[@jcarter7456]

just got one out my dads basement holy fuck was it heavy 😂

[@LanceHayabusa]

hecho en mexico

[@roveradventures]

Got one yesterday. Geometry is off slighly tilted image. But everything else is good. I used your settings + lower brightness. It was from a church free that said they only used it on occasion upstairs. So im betting fairly low hours. 480p 360 gaming is fun. Great black and white levels along with great color reproduction imo.

[@riggel8804]

Score

[@RetrofIex]

I picked up a D11E last year and it had some prominent vertical line bowing on the far left and right sides I couldnt correct. Did yours have that issue also?

[@roveradventures]

@@RetrofIex not sure, I haven't used it much and I wanna fix the screen but also 🤣 I never fixed or messed with crts and don't wanna risk damaging it since it works. Or getting zapped. Kinda Wanna find a way to watch movies and stuff on it too... my 360 is hooked to it and I wanna try 1080i with it. 420p does work though

[@roveradventures]

Update. I fixed the tilt. 34 brightness. 20 picture. The default settings had picture maxed out. It's insane lol

[@doom33469]

Toshiba have aperture grille

[@riggel8804]

clarify por favor

[@RetrofIex]

This set reminds me so much of my Philips 27LT220L/17 set. A super boring, generic black plastic 27” curved screen CRT with the Philips logo… but it has component and S-Video inputs and a fantastic picture. Marketed to hotels specifically as an institutional tv, per the website. I got mine for $5 on Offerup and out of my 8 CRTs, this one is the champion. But when you just look at it, its just so generic and boring looking.

[@riggel8804]

I've heard good things about the Philips tubes but I've never seen one in person. Hope I can check one out someday.

[@RetrofIex]

@@riggel8804 philips are pretty good. Not the greatest ever but the one I have I think is just very low hours and fresh.

[@austinstitzel]

I'm gonna guess that you are a Virgo.

[@crazycoollady]

I am going to guess that he is a Capricorn.

[@riggel8804]

crab

[@austinstitzel]

@@riggel8804 so you are a Cancer.

[@gunslingr7]

Normal shouldn't be called normal shoud be called whack LOL

[@riggel8804]

Oh shit it's Steve! What up dog?

[@gunslingr7]

@@riggel8804 loving these Videos man keep it up!

[@YavNe]

Sony looks better. xd Edit: Watching this on my Sony A8H OLED. Now I can say that Panasonic looks better. xd

[@kaguscon]

I have 2 27 super flats. One Nintendo and One Sega. All Component and S-Video

[@mistamontiel00]

Jus discovered youse and blown @ yo Mitsu boobtube. How that one even movable and rest on what.. moly (really 400 pound..?)

[@riggel8804]

275lbs. It got them handles

[@mistamontiel00]

@@riggel8804 Righteous!

[@riggel8804]

@@mistamontiel00 ye