Panasonic G9 II Review - Does It Stack Up For Wildlife Photography?

[@geoff_pring]

Hi Duade, I regularly follow your channel but I've been particularly waiting for your detailed reviewed on this camera and as wildlife photographer it's great to have a review that is focussed on the areas that are important to us. I'm a current Lumix G9 user and have been holding out for this camera for some time but at the same time reflecting on a switch to the OM1. You really have answered all my questions and this has allowed me to make an informed decision ahead of the actual camera being available. My past experience with Panasonic over a good number of years and multiple camera models, has been that they will address highlighted performance issues with firmware updates were technically possible and I have no doubt that this practice will continue with the G9II. I rate the OM1 highly but you have given me enough positive real life examples in this video to reassure that my only frustration with the current G9 (AFC performance) has been successfully addressed in the G9II and thank you for that - I can pre-order with confidence. Thanks again for this and all of your videos.

[@SpruceUp612]

My G9 was feeling a bit old so I ended up switching to an Olympus Em1mkiii. I will probably get the G9ii when there are used bodies on the market. There are things I love about both bodies and it's so hard to have to choose just one. The perks of the Olympus for me have been the better autofocus, live ND, starry sky autofocus, size, live bulb mode, live composite mode, handheld hi-res. The things I miss about the G9 are video functions, time lapse features, top body LED info screen, rear dial for scrolling the ISO easily, and when doing long exposures the LCD would show a countdown of seconds remaining. Panasonic seems to have lower noise when doing long exposures of 30s or more. Actually I'm just going to buy the G9ii AND the OM1 hahaha

[@walrusgumboot]

@@SpruceUp612You may be interest to know that the G9II also has live composite mode and handheld high-res mode. In fact the high res mode is even more flexible, the resolution is higher (100mp).

[@mi9se253]

What were your frustrations with the current G9?

[@LukeBrownFigmentoFilms]

Super happy that you're covering this camera. I currently shoot with a S5II and R7. My favourite shooting experiences over the years have been with M43 camera. Highly capable, massively versatile and comparatively lightweight. I wish people would look beyond sensor size alone as the market is better with M43 in it imo.

[@robinlee7531]

Great review Duade, question is will you sell everything for G9 II camera system only?

[@Owen-gc8yc]

You wont get full advantage of combined IS with the Olympus f4 300 on the panny as you get with an om-1

[@markwalker8374]

But you would get improved IS if using the Olympus 100-400mm on the G9 as the Oly being a non pro lens doesn't get the higher IS when used on the OM-1. So if that Oly lens is lighter, smaller and possibly sharper than Panasonic 100-400mm MkII then that combo might the one to get

[@Wildridefilms]

​@@markwalker8374the olympus lens is noticeably bigger and heavier, but seems to be sharper

[@Owen-gc8yc]

@@markwalker8374 Im just pointing out the ultimate combo for an f4 300mm is an om-1 not the panny. I suppose another consideration for staying with om at the long range end of optics at present Olympus out performs panny with the 300mm f4 and the 150-400 f4,5 pro. My 300f4mm is the sharpest lens I have ever used and is my go to birding lens even with the tcs. These quality optics work best with OM

[@Sheeno101]

@@Owen-gc8yc I get your point, although I think that ultimately, people would be very happy using the 300mm f/4 on the G9 ii. It's still amazingly stable and will give perfectly sharp images at the shutter speeds needed for birding - you could even argue that the G9 ii gets a tiny bit more out of these sharp optics from its slightly higher MP count. I say this as an OM-1 owner. For most photography, both the G9 ii and the OM-1 are excellent cameras and you can't really go wrong with either. In my mind, the question is: are you serious about videography as well as photography? Go for the G9 ii. Are you interested in some of the OM-1's specific-use photography features, such as Starry Sky AF, Live Bulb/Time, Live ND, in-camera focus stacking or focus bracketing with a flash? Go for the OM-1. None of the above relevant? Go to a camera store and handle both and decide which camera feels more right to you. It's such a great time to be a M43 shooter.

[@3dtrip870]

Wow, the 800mm comparison really shows the quality of the Panasonic lens; the Canon looked slightly better, but it is a prime, on full frame, so wow, Panasonic is looking good!

[@janwedek]

It’s incredibly promising how good their AF already is for their second PDAF body and with preproduction FW. One reason I would switch is beyond wildlife: the OM-1 has no human detection, just face/eye which IMO works a lot worse than Panasonic’s human detection (body/head/face/eye).

[@EvanSchurr]

That shot of the swans passing in front of the sun is absolutely beyond killer. Every shot I have seen from that 100-400 lens is unreal. Thank you for showing so many images from this camera. You've sold me to stay in my m43 ecosystem. I think the G9ii is the way to go from my G7.

[@TheRealRichardWong]

Duade, really detailed and fair review from an expert in wildlife photography. I learned quite a few things already after watching this video. And thanks for the shout-out as well!

[@rreichar1]

Great review! (As always)! I’m glad OT hear that rolling shutter is not an issue. I still own the original G9 mainly because it would be an adequate backup to my OM-1 if it needed service. I still hate the lack of a 3rd dial on the OM-1 though I manage to work around it. I still use my original PL 100-400 which I love but mostly use the 300 F4. With the old G9 I never found a fast way to switch between CAF and single point. On the OM-1 I have to use the function switch. Is there an easy way on the G9ii? I might consider switching to the G9ii at some point because of Panasonic’s history of doing meaningful software updates for many years on their bodies. I don’t shoot a lot of video but the OM-1 is definitely a bit weak on that front. How much blackout is there with the EVF? I shoot mostly in SH2 on the OM-1 to avoid blackout and I love that feature. I will be sticking with M4/3 until Canon releases a better crop sensor body. I don’t really see that happening any time soon. It’s great I have two solid M4/3 choices now.

[@Duade]

G'day mate, thanks, the quickest way to go to spot is by hitting the Joystick once, which is fast. But to get back to whole area I have not found an easier way then hitting the middle button on the D-pad which is a little awkward to move my thumb down there. I must admit with near and far AF you don't need single point as much but I would much prefer just hitting the joystick once more to return to whole area. There is no blackout in 20/60fps electronic which is good. Only slight lag at the end of the burst which I hope they fix. I also struck a weird thing when shooting full manual that the EVF always goes to middle grey when you engage AF, so if you are purposely underexposing the EVF switches back and forward when hitting the AF. In the end I just used Auto ISO to overcome that and put exp comp on the rear dial. Cheers, Duade

[@rreichar1]

@@Duade Thanks for information. Weird issue with the EVF. I usually use Auto ISO and put Exp Comp on a dial so that wouldn’t bother me much. It works better on the OM-1 than Canon though. I had a weird delay with Exp Comp on my R6 and R7 so I didn’t put it on a dial. Not having an easy way to change focus area is definitely an issue. The original G9 is similar. I was hoping they fixed that. My favorite Canon feature is the 3 buttons on the same area on the back. I don’t understand why everyone doesn’t just copy that. I can come close on the OM-1 using the function lever for focus area and assigning the ISO button to turn subject detection off and on. I wish it had a 3rd dial rather than the multi selector but I can live with that.

[@Duade]

Thanks Rod, totally agree, being able to quickly change from wide area to spot is critical for me, I also don't know why all cameras dont have 2 or 3 back buttons for your thumb. Cheers, Duade@@rreichar1

[@robert_may]

Oh that buffer issue is really weird - very odd that they're getting such slow write speeds. The OM-1 has a very similar issue to the G9II in that you can't swap between modes properly whilst it's still writing from the buffer. Buffer/write performance seems to be one of the biggest differentiators between this price range and the top-end wildlife cameras - I swapped to a Z9 and the buffer is effectively unlimited, with a fast enough CFExpress card. Also yes agree 100% - Panasonic colours out-of-camera are just fantastic. I have an S5IIX for video/travel and I just use the JPEGs from it for most shots. By far my favourite default colour performance of a camera. And I hadn't heard of that near/far AF feature before - that's awesome. I'm very used to racking focus back to stop cameras locking onto trees, but that seems like a really useful feature.

[@bjrn-einarnilsen687]

Great video mate, with some amazing photos. Looks like a very good combo. Maybe in the future we will see some f2.8 for this too. That i think would be great. With the form factor MFT have, i don"t think they would be neither too big or heavy, and probably a lot lower price than the competition. Wish you a great week. Cheers, Bjoern

[@Parroting_Australia234]

It's nice to see brands like Panasonic coming out and making cameras like these. Will be interesting to see how they evolve

[@MrImOriginal]

What? Panasonic invented micro four thirds... They've been "making cameras like these" for decades

[@johnclark9499]

Thanks again Duade for another great video. It's good to know that when I'm too old and weak to carry full frame kit around there will be a good choice of Micro Four Thirds equipment to choose from. And well done to Panasonic for delivering such a great product. Thanks again

[@Duade]

Thanks John, yes, it was a lot of fun and nice to have such a light package. Cheers, Duade

[@harrison00xXx]

I am literally a Panasonic Fanboy when it comes to other parts of their products, like TVs (longer ago, Plasma TVs!), batteries (Panasonic-Sanyo, Eneloops,…) and probably other stuff i dont even know im using. But as much i like the G9 II, S5 II or so, Panasonic just doesnt do much for the lower end/budget customer. Nearly 2000$ for a MFT body only, then if you want a faster prime you have to invest in the 200 2.8 leica its already at 3000$+ easily, add the 100-400 for convenience and having a telezoom and you are at about 4000$ (or more). For 4000$ you are getting too close to APS-C and full frame cameras and the 60-600, 150-600, 180-600 nikon and 200-600 sony lens For the price of a G9 II and 100-400 II i would get instead: Sony A6700 + 200-600G. Adding a faster or longer prime to the G9 II the prices would increase once more and i would rather prefer: R6 II/R8 and a RF 800 F11 and after a while a RF 100-500L or EF 100-400 II R7, RF 100-500L (or 100-400 II EF) + RF 800 F11 Panasonic S5 II + fitting lenses (have no clue about FF Panny boy lenses) Sony A7C II or A7CR + 200-600 I think i will go back to my habit with cameras as i did for over 10 years: buy the cheapest and best value you can get sub 300$ 2nd hand, use it for as long as possible before you literally even begin to hate the inferiority to modern entry level stuff, then upgrade once more to „old“ higher end stuff, ofc 2nd hand. The EOS R7 was my only expensive and „higher end“ purchase when it comes to camera bodies yet, but somehow i feel again as long ago: Its the lens(es) that matters, not the body. Sure enough, specs changed, sharp and detailed 4k120, fast burst rates, better AF,… but in the end, if you get a good shot, the biggest impact is still on the lens! Only in Video specs, AF performance + tracking and better high ISO handling i see real advantages of modern camera bodies and why they cost 1500$ at absolute minimum.

[@thrallingFRglory]

Hey Duade! I've seen this video before and it's excellent as always. Just wanted to ask if you will be reviewing the newly released OM 1 mark ii and the OM 150-600 anytime soon? Would love it if you could get your hands on this setup and compare it with the G9II! Always appreciate how you're not beholden to any one manufacturer and tell us like it is.

[@mateuszzdun9061]

My first ever camera was a Panasonic Lumix GX7 - got it 9 years ago as a gift together with a Panasonic 100-300 mm lens. I have to say that it was a wonderful beginner combo and taught me a lot about photography! Looking at the G9II, I must say that it is a beast of a camera comparing to my old GX7. AF, general speed, and lens availability for micro4/3 is so much better than 9 years ago, it seems like the low light / high ISO performance has also improved dramatically. While I decided to switch to Nikon Z6, I must say that you can still capture some amazing wildlife shots using the micro 4/3 sensor and be successful at wildlife photography. For me the major issue with GX7 was a poor high ISO performance, but as I wrote above - it has definitely improved throughout the years looking at the G9II files. Thank you for a comprehensive test Duade. Well done as always! Mateusz :)

[@letni9506]

Dxo is a big help in using a higher iso. Ofc it helps full frame too but along with cameras like the G9ii you definitely feel a big difference over using m43 kit from 9 or 10 years ago.

[@Newodat]

I’m late to the party here but I really can’t thank you enough for the comparisons of similar setups at the end, I’m going on some long term travelling and need a lightweight setup so that was incredibly valuable. If you had to choose between OM1 and 300mm f4 or G9ii with 100-400, what would you go for?

[@mikem922]

An excellent review in my view Duade. So thorough and you really put the G9II through its paces in many different shooting conditions/environments. An impressive camera with many expected features but also bonus features including the near and far autofocus that I would love to try. I really found the contrast against the canon, sony and olympus very informative. Fascinating that the buffer can be constrained in this way by the write speed of the SD cards. I really have enjoyed the way you have embraced zoom lenses as an alternative to the big prime that many of us don't own. Also the way you have developed your creative work like the sunrise where the two swans totally make this shot and the silhouette of the sulphur-crested cockatoos (for me these type of shots win awards as much as amazing bird portraits such as the eastern yellow robin and turquoise parrot). Finally I always enjoy how you include other wildlife as well as your amazing bird portraits (loved the bearded dragon and antechinus). Thanks again Duade.

[@Duade]

Thanks mate, my pleasure, I too an glad I invested in zooms, they really have revolutionised my photography for the better. Yes, I would like to photograph more reptiles. Cheers, Duade

[@wellingtoncrescent2480]

An excellent review, and I especially appreciated the practical comparison of alternatives. Personally, I like my R7 with the RF100-500, which is heavier but worth the difference, I think.

[@davidgommeren7283]

Thanks for the excellent review! I've been a long time Panasonic m4/3 user and have always been very satisfied (using the cheaper bodies, currently the G90) due to financial constraints and frequent travel (so size and weight were an issue). Recently I've been investigating upgrading to full-frame and can't decide between Sony, Canon or Nikon (although I do like the Nikon Z8 180-600 combo, but at would be a huge investment). Maybe I will keep my existing lenses and just upgrade to this body, seems the most cost effective method to upgrade the quality of my photos considering it is "just" a hobby.

[@Rooster0529]

As an amateur and firmly invested in Canon I am not in the market for another camera or switching brands. That said, I love your reviews. I enjoy learning about what’s out there but mostly the images you use for demonstration purposes. Thank you.

[@SpruceUp612]

In the last 4 years I've switched from Canon to Nikon to Fuji to Panasonic to Olympus. The grass isn't greener but it's certainly fun to play with new toys. If I scroll through my image library I can't tell which brand took which picture. Just comes down to which camera you'll want to grab and head outdoors with. Though I will say my Leica rangefinder has been with me the whole time and it's certainly not going anywhere, there's nothing else in the market.

[@Duade]

Thanks mate, yes, it took plenty of lovely images that is for sure. Cheers, Duade

[@prjct72]

M4/3 deserves appreciation, thanks Duade!

[@ianlewisphotography]

Great video. I recently got a Lumix G100 (I'm a Canon FF shooter normally) for family/travel photography and have been blown away by it. Now seriously considering the G9 II as a wildlife setup as a I tend to do a lot on foot. Thanks for the very useful review.

[@Duade]

My pleasure, yes, these light small cameras are great for travel, Cheers, Duade

[@simonbouffard8427]

excellent review especially for wildlife photography. I have two quick questions...how do you find the stabilization of the G9mk2 with the Olympus 300mm f4? for example compared to dual stabilization with the Panasonic 100-400 mk2. Finally, according to your review it seems that the animal autofocus of the G9 mk2 in video mode is much more efficient than for photos? also in comparison with OM-1. THANKS

[@BrentODell]

I have the previous generation of this kit, the G9 and original 100-400mm. Although it only had contrast detect AF, it still does well, and has improved dramatically over the 5 years since release with firmware updates. I have high hopes and expectations for the future of the G9 mk ii.

[@crg705]

@Duade Paton - how well does the AF works with, say Olympus 300 f4 - particularly tracking BiF?

[@georgebowden6748]

Hi Duade, thankyou for a great review that I've been patiently waiting for & it has certainly helped me make my choice in changing systems. As I've mentioned to you in earlier comments my current Canon system does most of what I do but it's the weight/size issues that affect me most & your valued opinions on this camera have really helped me decide. The buffer issues should never be a problem for me & it seems to do everything else I would possibly need. Your assessment of Panasonics genuine interest in making this the best they can is also very satisfying with the knowledge that firmware updates will be available. Cheers mate & thanks again.

[@Duade]

Thanks George, my pleasure, a very nice light kit that is for sure, have fun with the system. Cheers, Duade

[@mohankukreti3816]

Which you prefer Panasonic G9 II with Panasonic Leica DG Vario 100-400mm vs Olympus E-M1 III with Zuiko digital 100-400mm

[@Duade]

I think I would take the Panasonic for the eye tracking and excellent video, Cheers, Duade

[@charbax]

I think you can halve your buffer clearing speed today if you use the USB type-c with an external SSD.. I wonder what is the maximum speed of that USB type-c port when it comes to buffer clearing speed. Considering max SSD speed can be as high as 2000MB/s or more, I guess maybe the port can record 500-600MB/s max to the SSD? And another question I have for people who would like faster recording speed for a faster buffer clearing mode as well as access to higher bitrate video recording modes, I wonder if Panasonic can add RAID SD card recording mode. if the dual SD card bus capable of sending SD UHS-2 v90 speed out to both SD cards, then perhaps if they enable a RAID SD recording mode, that might double buffer clearing speed, and high bitrate video record modes, though it would remove redundancy, I prefer to always use redundant mode, but I think some people might prefer faster buffer clearing or access to higher bitrate video mode. one might need to use the camera to backup the data back out or to get some kind of dual sd card reader that would support this RAID format reading mode. one solution out that I would like to see is to safely back up data from both SD cards to an external USB type-c SSD+HDD backup drive, that could work to both speed up redundant SD card backup as well as to assemble/backup out the files from RAID SD card record mode to the external SSD/HDD..

[@Duade]

G'day, I tried an external SSD and unfortunately no improvement in clearing times, still took 51 seconds with a 520MB/s possible SSD. It appears to be an issue with the camera at this stage and not the speed of the card. Hopefully something they can work on. Cheers, Duade

[@charbax]

@@DuadeMaybe it can do a bit faster with a 1000MB/s or 2000MB/s SSD? Also, worth it to check with Panasonic if their USB-C record speeds are optimised in the pre-production firmware yet.

[@luismoran7176]

Great review! I’m looking for a camera that can take great pictures, not a pro-photographer, I’m debating between the old G9 and the G9II , is the G9II with the extra $$ in your opinion? Thanks !! 🙏

[@Duade]

G'day, yes, the G9II has a number of improvements that make it worth the extra price. Cheers, Duade

[@108u9]

Hi to clarify, were the images shown all captured with electronic shutter only? Even the dragonfly shot? Any instances where you found there was some rolling shutter issues?

[@xanedan4565]

I'm pretty much already sold on the G9-II since I'm already heavily invested in Panasonic's system and am moving more towards wildlife video (currently utilizing an original G9 and 100-400). Biggest gripe has always been autofocus and it sounds like they've made huge improvements in that regard. My biggest question is, were you testing the Panasonic Leica 100-400 MKII? The original version is lovely but has a really annoying habit of getting switched to manual focus while being pulled out of my camera bag and I can't count how many shots I have missed because of it. No issues in that regard? Could just be because I tend to shoot strapless with my camera always in a waterproof bag, but I'm usually kayaking or messing around in marshes so I like knowing my camera is more protected.

[@nikkvideos]

I think there is a setting in the G9 that lets you disable that switch, or reassign it to something else. Make sure your body firmware is up to date, as I think that feature was added leter on.

[@Duade]

G'day it was the version II and no I did not have any issues putting into manual. I did a few times knock the focal length limiter switch though, but not a major. Cheers, Duade

[@frstesiste7670]

The zoom ring on the original Panasonic 100-400 was too hard/stiff on many/most lenses (mine was not perfect but OK after some use). Did you notice anything special with the version two lens when zooming?

[@mw-wc4vw]

I simply love your reviews. I always look forward to them. You do excellent job balancing information and demonstration of video clips/photos.

[@bIoodypingu]

There's some OM employee punching air at people still calling it Olympus OM1.

[@Duade]

Thanks, yes, I am sure the name Olympus will stick for some time, it doesnt help that the camera says Olympus on it. Cheers, Duade

[@BryceShamwow]

They really should have bought the name too: it's a name with history and brand recognition. It's not unprecedented: Rolls Royce the aviation engine company is completely separate from the car company (which is now owned by BMW I think) and they used to be the same company.

[@BruceGraner-h1k]

I always enjoy your reviews and as a G9 and 100-400mm user I was especially interested in this one. I think you answered all my questions. Having come to the G9 through the Lumix/Leica 114 it might be worth mentioning that the "last image" lag you mentioned might have a simple correction. Both the 114 a the G9 have an image review option in the menu but auto reviewing the image can be turned off. However, that function is kind of hidden at the bottom of all the image review options if you keep scrolling down.

[@JeffBourke]

Putting theG9ii into the same body as S5ii is SMART!!!!! Hopefully the GH7 comes in the same body with the active cooling from S5ii.

[@billharrison8219]

Hi great review, just a few questions. Re the focusing you said that it initially takes a short while to lock on so is that a problem with shooting birds in flight and how does it compare with the canon r6ii for focusing. Cheers Bill

[@davidgeo2024]

Duade, you need to do a video about the sony a6400+ 200-600mm. I think in terms of price it is similar to the panasonic g9II+ Panasonic Lieca 100-400. Will be nice to see the comparison.

[@markpronger1009]

Great to see you comment and review micro 4/3, a lot of reviewers on KZbin think that unless you shoot Canon, Sony or Nikon that you don't take your photography seriously. I am retired so i get out with my OM1 and PL100400 series one, about 5 mornings a week. I have 2 national parks within 15mins of my place in Sydney's South and walk between 4-8 km each time so Micro 4/3 perfect for wildlife and travel. ( saving up for the olympus 150-400mm , hopefully they drop the price a bit)

[@Duade]

Thanks Mark, totally agree that M43 is excellent for walking and shooting, the weight really is fantastic. I miss the coast, especially the sound and sight of a flock of Yellow-tailed Blacks. Cheers, Duade

[@elzafir]

12:30 you shot he R6 II at 1/4000 with an f/11 lens and the G9 II at 1/8000 with a f/6.3 lens (f/12.6 EFF). If you also shot the R6 II at 1/8000, surely it would have similar noise performance as the G9 II, wouldn't it?

[@bricoschmoo1897]

Hi Duade, thanks a lot for this video, you answered one critical question for me: the buffer. I really hope that Panasonic does something to use the full potential of UHS-II. Because 150MB/s is simply unacceptable. From what I understood, heat mitigation has been a real issue when developping this camera. So, limiting transfer rates for internal recording does make sense. Recording hughe bursts to SSD should be a viable option from what I gathered in Lumix's various live sessions. The specs indicate that the G9ii has USB 3.2 Gen compatibility: that would allow a theoretical 1.25 GBps maximum transfer rate, getting somewhat close to CFExpress type B cards, without all the heat being dumped inside the camera body. That said, that would mean having to rig an SSD onto the camera. Quite cumbersome! The near and far autofocus buttons are something I miss deeply since I moved from the original G9 to the OM-1 but that was greatly compensated by the OM-1's autofocus capabilities. Now, the G9-ii seems to have the best of both worlds. That, and the video capabilities. The OM-1 disappointed me in that department, compared to my original G9, especially for anything related to slow motion. I think the G9-ii has a very good chance to become my main camera (paired with the original 100-400), and my OM-1 would then be focused on macro, b-rolls and stuff that I do a bit less. I'm still waiting on OM System's lens announcements. It's a real shame that Panasonic and OM decided not to work together with Sync and Dual IS, because that entices us to commit not only to the mount, but also to a single brand!

[@Duade]

G'day, I tried an external SSD and unfortunately no improvement in clearing times, still took 51 seconds with a 520MB/s possible SSD. Not sure if Panasonic were showing faster than that. Cheers, Duade

[@bricoschmoo1897]

@@Duade Hi, thanks a lot for your answer ! I didn't say anything from Panasonic related to SSD usage. As far as I know, they just spoke about it. These buffer clearing times are very concerning to me, especially given the speeds available in hardware. Let's see what's possible with production firmware. Not sure yet if it's a dealbreaker for me, but it sure is a blow. Keep up your amazing work ! You're really helping photographers out there :D

[@medicineman4040]

Duade, please comment on the G9II+Oly 150-400mm combo. I'm desirous of upping my M1X and am also studying the big Oly wildlife zoom. The recently announced OM OM-1 ii might be OM's answer to the G9II?

[@anthony-qm3pn]

Thank you for a good honest review of Panasonic G9II, hopefully next year we’ll see all new GH6II & OM-1 mark II with all new sensor technology with a higher megapixel count and all new image processor technology that would hopefully wow us all in the future Micro 4/3 cameras, If they’re only can be a real breakthrough in sensor, technology and image processor technology, I think that happens micro 4/3 has a bright future.

[@Sheeno101]

Amazing video Duade, thanks for making it. I'm glad you shouted out Richard Wong because between the two of you, almost every question I could ever have about this camera has been answered. Two of the very best reviewers out there!

[@peterfogarty1678]

Great job Duade

[@Democratiser]

I totally agree. This is an outstanding review. Well done Duade! The third reviewer I would add to your list is Kasey Stern at Camera Conspiracies. If only for his humour! But he is a fierce critic of all cameras and yet declared the G9II to be ‘nearly perfect’. If you follow his channel you will know that is high praise.

[@tonyblake8841]

Hi Duade, as per our previous conversation I cant believe some of the low ISO values you are getting. Unfortunately I haven’t had a chance to try your suggestion of lower shutter speed and short bursts. Will be interesting to see the full firmware capabilities once released. Cheers.

[@Duade]

Thank Tony, I think I shoot in open environments a lot without a lot of tree canopy which has more ambient light meaning less noise perhaps. Have fun trying it out, Cheers, Duade

[@markwhitesell4491]

So glad you reviewed this camera/lens combo and especially glad you compared it to other similar setups. My daughter is in the market for a new birding camera so I'll have her watch this video before making a decision. Job well done... and I'm glad to be a continuing paid supporter of your channel.

[@Duade]

Thanks for the support Mark and great to hear your daughter is interested in a birding setup. Cheers, Duade

[@anthony-qm3pn]

I want to see next camera from OM systems With a minimum megapixel count of 28 megapixels with a Stacked sensor With a one stop low light improvement and one stop better dynamic range improvement over the current OM-1 Sensor. Also want to see a lot more powerful image processor inside the camera to speed things up with the next model from OM systems.

[@akeluify]

As much as I'd like that I don't think it's realistic if the mk ii is going to be released anytime soon

[@anthony-qm3pn]

@@akeluify how about as a stock gap OM system introduce an all new OM-2 using the same body as the OM-1, with a stacked 24 or 26 megapixel sensor And it all new image processor, I would like to see such a camera. Introduced Late February early March of next year, I think OM systems needs to do some kind of early update to keep their users interested in the system to prevent any further migration to other cam systems just my opinion.

[@akeluify]

@@anthony-qm3pn yes that sounds good. I would be very happy with a 24-26 mp om-1 with same high iso/low light performance/dynamic range.

[@duncanwallace7760]

The buffer issue seems to be to do with too many FPS & not having CF express B. I agree with your suggestion to lower the FPS as you near the buffer. Even 5 fps can still get you good results in wildlife. I have 20fps on my camera and I only ever use it when birds are flying, and then only in very short bursts. Going through thousands of photos is quite annoying and I wish there was a 'grouping' function in Lightroom which would group bursts of photos based on timestamps, so you could keep only one or two shots per burst.

[@ericmenu5408]

Great video ! Thanks to have shared the buffer/card writing issue to Panasonic. I also love the Far/Near focus feature on my G9, very useful in macro also. So strange that Panasonic (compared to OM System) does not promote this G9II more for wildlife photography, and the lack of good telelenses in their lineup.

[@spyder000069]

The fact that you can get the R7 with a lens cheaper than the G9 mk2 is a tough sell. Hopefully that launch price left enough meat on the bone for them to discount it once the initial sales slow down.

[@stevemurnan1702]

I'm not so sure. The R7 has many downsides to its performance most notably AF and rolling shutter as Duade and others have demonstrated. For its price point it's a good camera but for a little more you can have cameras without the R7's drawbacks.

[@gozoomdaddy]

Funny how these reviewers compare FF to m4/3 at super high ISO... Then say how bad the m4/3 produces images !! I

[@JoeMaranophotography]

The problem for existing G9 owners is having to pay for essentially better autofocus

[@janwedek]

Better IBIS? More resolution? More dynamic range? Much faster drive speed with CAF? Hand held high res?

[@JoeMaranophotography]

@@janwedek Nothing game changing. It's like 10% stuff 6 years later.

[@chiara1086]

Thank you for that great detailed review! The shot at 17:19 is so amazing! Is it possible to buy a print? Also I would like to know how well did the stabilization work with the olympus 300mm f4?

[@AbangPete]

My favourite is 24:48

[@davidfrisken1617]

Buffer my not be an issue if SSD is active?

[@Duade]

G'day, It appears the issue may not be the buffer but how long it takes for the camera to merge the dual gain images into one. So an SSD does not help in anyway as the camera itself is the issue. It can export video at much higher speed then photos. Cheers, DUade

[@simplyawesomephoto]

Super information. Did you happen to test the write speed of the USB-C connector with external SSD? I'm wondering if this will overcome the 53 second write time you describe where it locks up the camera when writing to the SD card. Also, do you have any way of providing your findings to Panasonic to possibly include a mode where the fps slows down when writing to cards rather than locking up the camera? Thanks again for the video.

[@Duade]

G'day, yes, I tested with an external SSD and it took 51 seconds to clear so it appears to be an issue with the speed at which the camera writes to the external memory. I have shared my issues with Panasonic who are looking into it. Cheers, Duade

[@simplyawesomephoto]

Thank you for the answer. Hopefully, Panasonic can come up with a solution. Otherwise it looks like the OM-1 is a better solution for burst hungry photographers.

[@mortystation]

Hey, excellent review. I recently bougth the Lumix 45-200 and I found myself and after few weeks I am regretting my decision. Should I look for a teleconverter or just sell this lense and go for that 400?

[@d-entrecasteaux]

Thanks for another very detailed review. Two questions: Are the Panasonic 100-400mm zoom and focus rings smooth? Does the G9ii have bird autofocus tracking in 4K 120p? Thanks!

[@d-entrecasteaux]

I just found out from elsewhere. Zoom (in terms of smooth rotation) is better than previous version but not as good as it could be. G9ii does 4K 60p with bird eye detect. 4K 120p with animal/bird detect (no eye detect). 300p with manual focus.

[@przybylskipawel]

Hey, Duade! I am planning to purchase G9II. Slow buffer clearing time concerns me a bit. I have already two V60 UHS-II 256GB cards. I wonder if choosing V90 (which are inifinitely more expensive) would make as big of a practical difference as it was with R7. 78s vs 53s seems a big difference but to be honest I am not sure whether being screwed for say 40s is that much better than being screwed for 60s justifies spending that much money. What is your take on that?

[@Duade]

I believe the bottleneck is the cameras processing chip, I understand that because its dual gain the camera needs to merge those RAWs before sending them to the memory card, so even if you had an external SSD it would not be any faster as the actual bottleneck is the camera itself, not the memory card. It is a great camera, just a few little things that make it slightly difficult for me to use. I still find a bit of lag in the viewfinder, the buffer can be an issue, and the exposure simulation when hitting the shutter. My understanding is the camera wants to autofocus at exactly middle grey, so if you are in manual and purposely underexpose as soon as you hit the shutter the EVF will go to middle grey. This constant jumping between the actual exposure and middle grey is hard to deal with for me being a manual shooter. The only solution is to shoot in AUTO ISO and not underexpose too heavily. Just want to be honest with my experience so far. Of course there are loads of wonderful things like the video, eye tracking, FPS, Precapture, reach etc. Good luck, Cheers, Duade

[@przybylskipawel]

@@Duade OMG! That is insightfull! I didn't expect that... Thank you. For me that means that I wouldn't have to invest in V90 media, which is a plus. That you say about exposure and lag is disturbing but to be honest I always shoot wildlife in M Auto ISO or even in shutter priority. This will be a replacement for my GH6 as it turned out not to overheat in 25p almost never. Wether I sell my OM-1 I will consider based on my experience with G9II.

[@Duade]

Good luck, I think I prefer the OM-1 as it just seems a bit more responsive for wildlife but I will be interested to hear your take. Cheers, Duade@@przybylskipawel

[@przybylskipawel]

@@Duade What do you mean by more responsive? That it finds subject faster?

[@Duade]

Yeah, its a small difference but I find the OM-1 just a little more refined, I am sure the G9II with updates will continue to improve. Cheers ,Duade@@przybylskipawel

[@Membee]

Thanks for the great honest review and comparison of the G9 mk11.

[@mr_k4tz]

Fantastic review. I’m glad you covered some cons other reviewers didn’t mention. I’m about to spend some hard earned cash on a second body for an upcoming safari trip and am already an Olympus shooter. Do you know if the buffering / speed of writing to the card issues were improved with firmware in the production models?

[@3DEditor]

Have you tested 150 to 300 fps in 1080p or 120fps in 4k while zoomed to 400mm on that lens? If so, did you lose the 2x extra focal zoom range, autofocus, iso and shutter speed like what happens with the predecessor G9?

[@Princeton_James]

The feel of this is better than the S5. They are similar but noticeably different in the hand. This is the best feeling camera I've ever used.

[@studio1966]

It should be possible to override the autofocus manually. With the G9 this works in MF mode, where you can focus manually and then use the autofocus. Could you develop raw. All other testers only have the JPG. I think a good improvement on the G9 and certainly my next body. It's nice to see that professionals like you don't necessarily demonize the camera as a toy

[@harrison00xXx]

I think, as with nearly every camera released the past 10 years, raw is not working yet and you can only use jpeg images yet. Also, the difference is very negliable, only big impact we cant judge yet is the denoising performance since there are no profiles for this camera or raw format yet.

[@Duade]

G'day, I think the manual override is in AFS only, not AFC High Speed unfortunately. I was able to open the RAW files with some software Panasonic provided and then save as a TIF file into lightroom. Cheers, Duade

[@joseluisgonzalezvillanueva361]

Muchas gracias por la información que ofreces, yo tengo la g9 y estoy muy interesado en la g9 II por las ventajas que ofrece con respecto a la anterior. Te agradecería si me podrías decir si el 100-400 que has utilizado es el nuevo o es el anterior y también si tienes noticias del duplicador para el 100-400 y el 35-100 que se oyen noticias que van a comercializar, saludos.

[@arielatomhc]

Australia definitely has the most unique animals maybe second to Africa.

[@przybylskipawel]

Please, please, please! Test image quality of Olympus 100-400mm lens on G9II compared to Panasonic 100-400mm. Olympus is said to be much better optically but G9II has more pixels than OM-1. I would like to know, if I could happily use my olympus 100-400mm on G9II, which I plan to buy.

[@janwedek]

I have both lenses. The OM100-400 is not better or worse, they are both good lenses. I use both on OM-1s. If you need TCs now or absolutely need in-body focus stacking, else the Panaleica is better IMO. Smaller and lighter, much better OIS.

[@przybylskipawel]

@@janwedek With all due respect. Back it up with side by side photo comparison. Because Mathieu from mirrorlessons compared these lenses and Panaleica is a far cry from Olympus 100-400mm.

[@Duade]

G'day, I will be sure to do that, I will post a link to the RAW files when I have done it. Cheers, Duade

[@skipcampbell239]

sold my r7 for a om1 my best decision

[@Duade]

Yep, its a wonderful camera. Cheers, Duade

[@jonerikrolf2029]

An excellent review- I every much appreciated your providing evaluative comments based so your experience as a wildlife photographer. The direct comparisons with the OM-1 were very informative. As an OM-1 / 150-400mm 1.5x lens user, I am very happy that Panasonic has up’ed their game with the G9 II as it will push OM Systems to improve the OM-1 via firmware for making their Bird AI continuous focusing even better and add by adding more improvements for video.

[@stevemurnan1702]

Here here.

[@d-entrecasteaux]

Agreed.

[@knofi7052]

Unfortunately, the long startup time is definitely a dealbreaker for me!

[@perfectman1672]

Sir,Please gift me a second camera.I live in Bangladesh.please sir🙏🥺❤

[@tanktope5453]

Hi Duade, awesome video as always. I'm looking for a canon body for birding and im torn between the R7, the R8 and the original R6 with the Sigma 150-600. Which body would you recommend?

[@Duade]

G'day, my apologies for the late reply, did you make a choice?

[@eka.setyawan]

Good video as always, still waiting for your full review for R10,, 😅

[@ericaceous1652]

Brilliant even handed review Duade, thank you. Really excited for this camera as an addition to my original G9 II. The Near and Far shift settings are an absolute lifesaver!

[@chasf3433]

The Olympus 100-400 is heavier because I believe it is based on a Sigma APS-C lens and not designed as an M4/3 lens

[@Duade]

Thanks, that is interesting, Cheers, Duade

[@jacquesgiard6943]

Thanks!

[@Duade]

Thanks for the support, Cheers, Duade

[@tanmaysakpalofficial]

Amazing video. The g9ll seems slightly pricey compared to something like a6700 especially because the new Sony a6700 has larger sensor, better video capabilities and amazing autofocus as well. I suppose it lacks the high speed shooting so maybe not primarily for wildlife but I think it's great as an overall camera for amateurs right? I would really love to see the a6700 + Tamron 150-500 lens combo for wildlife. I think a better(lighter) combo would be a6700 + Tamron 50-400. What do you think? Please do share your expert opinion as a wildlife expert 😊

[@Democratiser]

I agree the G9II is more expensive (esp in Australia) than I had anticipated even after accounting for recent FX drops in AUD / USD. I am hoping the price will deflate in the first 12 months after release to a more acceptable level. Currently it is 3x the price of what I paid for my G9 OG a couple of years back. Regarding video features, I think the G9 II is actually superior to the A6700 other than some software tricks principally focused on KZbinrs (dynamic reframing etc). The G9II is basically a GH6 minus some codecs and a fan. The G9II supports up to 5.8K 60p and 4K/C4K 120p 10-bit 4:2:2 or 4:2:0 video with no crop. And it has open gate recording and it can record to an external SSD and it records ProRes and it allows custom LUTs to be loaded and it has it has shutter angle and you can use anamorphic lenses etc etc. It is quite phenomenal for a camera which is touted as being focussed on stills photography. The one thing I don’t like is that there is no ‘one switch’ mechanism to change between stills and photography mode. That being the case one would need to use the custom buttons (dial) to set up your preferred video shooting modes. This is where the ‘hybrid’ nature of these cameras reflect that they are stills cameras which have been adapted to accommodate video. The only thing I can think of that the G9II doesn’t have is the ability to record Blackmagic RAW. It is also something that might be added in the future, even if only external recording. What do you consider to be the A6700’s video advantages? What I do like about the A6700 is that it is smaller, lighter and cheaper. I am hoping LUMIX releases a GX9 II at some point which might offer similar size and weight advantages.

[@castielvargastv7931]

What sou arevtalking about? The g9 has much better video specs than the 6700, the sony does not even have a second card slot.

[@BigTimeFaith]

OM1 is still the better camera with its stacked sensor.

[@Emerald_City_]

Dying to know if you use a teleprompter or not? If no, you are genial indeed. If yes, you are genial too in the way you get to hide it. My first video watched here. People are mentioning you on the other channels, but this surpasses all expectations. Those 31 minutes pass by very fast.

[@Duade]

G'day, no telepromter at this stage but I am open to it. I have a laptop open next to me with notes which helps. Cheers, Duade

[@stevenbradbury9019]

What editing software are you using for RAW?

[@kimraymond2749]

Thank you. A great review. I guess one day I'll move on from the Olympus OMD M1 iii and good to know that there is a choice between OM Systems and Panasonic for that upgrade. Pity, I just bought the M.Zuiko 100-400 mm based on comparison reviews with the the older Panasonic 100-400.

[@Duade]

Hi Kim, yes good to have options, the Olympus 100-400 is still a lovely lens on the OM System, Cheers, Duade

[@msyuan1124]

The more options for camera buyers, the better. Great review - balanced, detailed, and thorough. I just wish you were reviewing the Canon R1.😂

[@Duade]

Thanks mate, totally agree and very good for us consumers. Cheers, Duade

[@Jay-sr8ge]

Great video. I love that you review and compare all these different systems and sensor sizes.

[@przybylskipawel]

OMG! Sony a6700 is THAT bad for rolling shutter? Maybe it was a6600...?

[@Duade]

G'day, no that was the A6700, seems quite slow from that. Cheers, Duade

[@David_Quinn_Photography]

great review on ths camera, with the drama around Canon can you grab some EF/RF-MFT adaptors and do a few reivews for potential canon lens owners?

[@Duade]

Thanks, I think from memory the OM-1 speedboster does not work so I'm not sure they have a workaround yet, I will have to look into it. Cheers, Duade

[@garymeredith2441]

As always Duade I love how you review the cameras now on this Panasonic camera that you used here can you get a vertical grip for this camera?? .

[@Duade]

G'day mate, yes you can and I should have mentioned that. Cheers, Duade

[@Terrytheartist]

Another great fact filled video Duade, the best reviewer and wildlife videographer on KZbin imo, always look forward to all your work even though I’m a Canon only user I still find these other reviews interesting 👍📷🦅

[@Duade]

Thanks Terry, I appreciate it, Cheers, Duade

[@karlswanderlust]

Thank you for your balanced review! Nicely done! If the cost of a portable camera system were not a consideration, which would you choose -- the OM-1 with either the Olympus or Panasonic 100-400 lens, or the Canon R7 with the RF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6?

[@Duade]

G'day, that is a tough choice, I think I would take the M43 system as it does not suffer from rolling shutter and gives you a little more reach. However with the new Canon RF200-800 being released that would be interesting on the R7. I plan on doing lots of tests once I get the 200-800 on release. Cheers, Duade

[@karlswanderlust]

Thanks so much! That is very helpful. The Canon would probably be a option if the weight were kept down. However, my aging shoulder would probably object. (I currently shoot with a Sony A1/200-600 combo and am looking for something lighter.) I have compared the OM-1 and G9ii based on over 20 different factors and found there are pluses and minuses to both. I suspect I would probably be happy with either system. Do you have a coin I could borrow? 😀 Thanks again! All the best! Karl

[@AliasJimWirth]

Fine review, Duade. Some really nice images came out of this as well. Thank you for your down to earth honesty and for posting videos.

[@Duade]

Thanks mate, it is my pleasure, Cheers, Duade

[@Jimbo462]

Perhaps I missed the information, what RAW converter did you use for the G9 Mark II RAW's? I ask as I'm not seeing support for this camera with SilkyPix at this point? Thanks for this in-depth pre-production review, Duade, much appreciated! :)

[@Duade]

G'day, Panasonic sent me a version of SilkyPix that worked with the G9II Raw Files. Cheers, Duade

[@Jimbo462]

@@Duade Much obliged, kind sir! Good to know that RAW support will be publicly available (hopefully, in time for) when the camera ships! Best to you, Jimbo.

[@AlexMcDougallPhotography]

Is this any better in lowlight than the original was?

[@timothyboucherbirder]

Nicely done. What is the start-up time? I find the original G9 a little sluggish.

[@Duade]

Hi Tim, yes, it was a little sluggish when fully asleep, similar to the Canon R5. I just get into the habit of hitting the shutter before lifting to my eye. Cheers, Duade

[@karlswanderlust]

Thanks for putting together this video! Very well thought out and presented.

[@Duade]

Thanks again, I'm glad you enjoyed it, Cheers, DUade

[@awesomeninjadude1658]

Very interesting thanks

[@titomiguelmarques5512]

Good review, specially the comparison with equivalent offerings from olympus and canon. However, comparing mft and ff is pointless, since all reviews in the world comparing 24mp ff and 24mm mft will confirm a advantage to ff - a quarter of the pixel density will more or less result in 2 fstop difference. The goal of mft is not to replace ff, but to offer a big advantage is terms of portability. What was interesting was the comparison with the r7 - as expected, comparable pixel density will offer comparable noise performance. Still, considering how far we came in terms of performance, the performance of mft is fantastic. Pro photographers from 15 or 20 years ago had to come out with pro work using even ff cameras that were much worse in terms of sensor performance and we would never hear from them complaining about noise😂. As for canon or sony, since they dont really offer a compeling choice in terms of apsc lenses, they arent really good options - you give up of sensor performance but dont really get any real size advantage in return. On fujifilm is a real contender to mft.

[@Democratiser]

I have a 5D III and became frustrated waiting for a decent Canon RF mount camera which wasn’t crippled or overpriced. So I bought a LUMIX G9 a couple of years back, which has been great. Yes it has weird AF but we learn to live with it and learn how to use MF in video etc. I might have bought the R7 had it arrived earlier but as you say the lens selection is very weak. Canon had proven however that it is presently a wholly full-frame focused manufacturer. Also given it has a closed mount we are denied any quality offerings from other manufacturers of APSC lenses. So my conclusion is that if you want to buy a top quality crop camera you buy LUMIX, OM Systems and Fujifilm. I would also say Sony is ok too if you don’t just use it for wildlife because, unlike with Canon, you can access the third party APSC lenses from Sigma, Tamron, Samyang, Viltrox, etc. One avoids Canon and Nikon. Full frame is a different story and depends on your specific use case.

[@Duade]

Thanks and all valid points, I agree the portability and features of M43 are very attractive and I can see why they are very popular as a walk around kit. Cheers, Duade

[@carboncut]

Thank-you for the honest review as an experienced photographer.

[@Duade]

Thanks for the support, I really appreciate it, Cheers, Duade

[@colintraveller]

Quality Sun Capture ... I'd also be chuffed bagging that .....that would make for quality print ...even Poster !! Sa'mage . I reckon i'll be buying a FFC this time . ..

[@tomaszstramel3594]

Maybe rigging the camera out with an SSD could solve the bottleneck of the buffer clearing to an SD card...

[@Duade]

G'day, I tried an external SSD and unfortunately no improvement in clearing times, still took 51 seconds with a 520MB/s possible SSD. Cheers, Duade

[@tomaszstramel3594]

@@Duade Oh, that's rather disappointing! I appreciate the update. -tstr

[@JohnDrummondPhoto]

I presume, since the video function is via that top dial, that you cannot save separate custom modes to video. If so, it's just like the original R6 and that's my biggest gripe with that camera, though I otherwise like it a lot.

[@Serenoj69]

The AF is really miles ahead of my EM1.2. A expected but the point is that I can make it work with C-AF for sports and birds etc. Good enough for me. This one is much much better. If the Gh6 is anything similar at high ISO (it is similar yet different from the G9-2) the G9-2 when we look at dpreview studio samples in low light, is also a stop better noise wise. I am happy with the Em1.2 IQ wise as it is but ISO6400 being a stop better is to me unexpected. And that with 25 MP vs 20. My work pays 1500 euro for anything that is good for my health. So some collegues bought a few golf clubs, other buy other things. I will buy a G9 Mark II with it and add a little myself. I have a GH4 and an LX100-2 and I like the Panny menu's much much better than what I am used to with my Em1.2. Still, that cam is going nowhere.

[@fuzzywuzzy8874]

thanks for this. thank you for putting an Olympus 4/300 on the G9II. i am completely dumbfounded as to why you are, to my knowledge, the only person who has. being that the Oly 4/300 and the Oly/OM 150-400 clearly are the pinnacle of m4/3 bird/wildlife lenses, and not available from Panasonic, I really have to wonder why no one else has 'experimented' with those two lenses on the G9II. i had to assume then that claims of the G9II being the best m4/3 camera, on a whole, are simply not accurate. from what i've found, the G9II has not (can not?) proven it can beat the OM-1 at the OM-1's best game. your review confirms my G9II thoughts thus far. could be interesting to see how the final production of G9II might improve it's status and/or if OM Systems responds with a very substantial OM-1 f.w. update (like they have numerous times in the past with the OM-1 and previous models).