Panasonic Lumix G9 II: I Was WRONG!

[@robb8773]

I love the M43 system. I have an EM1 Mark III with Pro lenes. I sell my work on line and at galleries and have never had a buyer say "oh, I'm not buying your work because it wasn't shot with a FF camera".

[@3BMEP]

👊🏻💯

[@SpruceUp612]

I’ve had many full frame systems and when I scroll through my own photos over the years I can’t tell which was G9 or Olympus or Nikon or Canon or Fuji.

[@letni9506]

I'm mainly into my wildlife photography so i love m43 and also it suits me because I can afford the pro lenses. I was going to get a Sony full frame camera but to get the best from it you have to spend some eye watering money on glass.

[@jonathanscherer8567]

@@letni9506I I almost went with Sony, too. Then the OM-1 came out. I'd been waiting for Panasonic to release a replacement for the G9, but year after year passed, so I gave up. I'm glad I stayed with M43 because I've been able to build my lens collection up. It's far less expensive than FF in general, and quite sharp. Though the 150-400 is incredibly expensive. Granted, the equivalent in FF doesn't even exist. I suppose that's why they think they can ask such a premium for it.

[@lavapix]

Same. GH5 and G9.

[@jimcoon]

I’m a former newspaper photographer (in a past life - I am 70 now). I have used a GH5 for 4 years to shoot video for my business. A GH4 prior to that. I also have a Nikon D850 with all the requisite expensive lenses. And a Nikon D500 for wildlife. After watching your video I will be purchasing the G9II for video and stills as I get more and more tired of packing the D850 around. I will save the Nikon for tripod-mounted studio work and possibly landscape. But I think M43 is highly underrated, especially as we get older. It’s simply easier to grab and go. Thanks for your sense of humor and great content. Jim in Oregon

[@3BMEP]

Thanks for sharing, Jim - makes sense to me!

[@duncanwallace7760]

That 100-400mm lens (200-800mm equivalent) is amazing. I also have Nikons with beautiful lenses, but the M43 Lumix cameras are really nice and light, especially when you factor in the lenses. I did struggle with the AF in the past on Panasonics, but it sounds like they've sorted that out now.

[@jdam28k]

Such a wonderfully rounded system, Panasonic colours are criminally underrated.

[@karllong]

This is very true, I found out recently that the legendary Nikon D700 is a panasonic sensor :)

[@Democratiser]

And they look better than ever to me in the G9II!

[@Gma7788]

Fhotografers don't understand they're image making TOOLS. Tools 🔧 🔨 are built to do different jobs. Manufacturers can build different amplifiers. Amplifiers ARE tools 🔧 You're buying a TOOL KIT. The amplifiers are all unique in your cameras. Photographers buy tool 🔧 kits. You guys have no idea you're buying an image capturing tool kit. Full set of various amplifiers built into cameras.

[@Democratiser]

@@Gma7788 you lost me with the last two sentences.

[@TerryD23]

Unless I misinterpreted your earlier point, it is my understanding that the f stop with mft is not doubled vs full frame. The DOF equivalent is but not the amount of light being let in. A light meter would not know the difference so f2.8 is not 5.6 but 2.8 on both formats.

[@liselottepulver2819]

Well, yes but also no. the f-stop number is just the ratio between the focal length and the aperture (actually the entrance pupil) of a lens. And photographers like that number because the projected image will always give (letting transmission aside; see t-stops) the same brightness. That means for all formats and focal length you can use a light meter to determine the right exposure for a given film speed. But brightness is not the same as amount of light. If you just use a smaller portion of the projected image, let's say half the image cicle, quarter the image area, you get a quarter of the amount of light at the same brightness.

[@DominiKing32]

The 2.8 light gathering is the same on any format, the only thing that changes is the depth of field. So an a M43 lens a 2.8 lens will gather the same amount of light as a full frame 2.8 lens but the depth of field is more like 5.6 on a full frame.

[@PeterJohns-zj2rw]

Each pixel is smaller so less light per pixel. Depth of field looks different because you’d typically stand further from your subject to frame it. Both the same effect as using a high MP sensor in crop mode.

[@Democratiser]

@@PeterJohns-zj2rwThe MFT pixels are about 1/4 the size compared with full frame of the same MP density. Your blanket statement falls apart Im when comparing say the 10mp GH5s with the 45mp R5.

[@jeffbronson3696]

@@DominiKing32this is an old comment but a common misunderstanding. Aperture (eg, F2.8) equates to exposure, which is proportional to light gathering per surface area, not total light gathering. The iphone 13 pro main lens has an f1.5 aperture. Do you truly think that it’s gathering as much light as a full frame f1.5 lens?

[@pgy8863]

It's great that Panasonic finally caught up. Olympus was there years ago with cameras (OM-5, OM-1) with these features and ergonomics years ago, with great glass too. I'm happy for Pana, but Oly has already been here and done that, really well.

[@NPJensen]

I have come to love Micro 4/3, or as I like to think of it, digital half frame. You are so right by the way, a GX8ii or GX9ii would be just what a lot of us are dreaming of. Personally, I have never found the need to go for the Leica branded M4/3 lenses. Olympus M. Digital Zuiko Premium primes and Panasonic G primes are small, light weight and sharp at a price point where I find the value for money to be just right for my needs.

[@bradmiller9993]

my 45-200 entry level zoom produces terrific images, can be had very cheaply, is super light and makes a great travel companion. I have some of the Leica glass which is really great, of course, but......even the cheap stuff Panasonic sells have been very good to me.

[@Paul_anderson_creative]

​@@bradmiller9993likewise my Olympus 75-300 is remarkable and sharp even at 600mm FF eq...❤

[@reflexfilms]

That camera with the GODLY (for the cost vs performance + close focus distance) M43 Sigma 16mm F1.4 - will be absolute magic

[@haploguy]

Panasonic has the most INSANE combo on their hands right now. S5II + G9II has literally no rivals, especially at sub 4k for both bodies. IN-SANE.

[@danatkinson1517]

I've recently switched from Canon full frame to the OM-1 and absolutely love the M4/3 ecosystem. I shoot mostly macro, which has the obvious benefits of the extra DOF that comes with M4/3. But, I have also started shooting landscapes again and have been pleasantly surprised by the dynamic range that the OM-1 gives me. Add to that that it's just so much easier to take the camera out and shoot, meaning that it's not such a chore to pick up my bag and head out.

[@dasaen]

Did you notice any loss of shutter speed when switching to mft? I use mft and can upgrade to the g9ii or get the canon R8. My thinking is I will get a bit more shutter speed but reduced reach, however I don't know anyone that has had the 2 systems to ask.

[@jasontaycs7195]

@@dasaen What do you mean by loss of shutter speed? That's something you control. Most high end bodies will have 1/8000 as the max, otherwise it's 1/4000 in more casual consumer oriented ones.

[@dasaen]

@@jasontaycs7195 Not having the extra ISO stops to bump up shutter speed at a same exposure value of ideally 0. I ended up getting the g9ii btw.

[@MikeLindup42]

Those three words, and your consequent review have lifted my heart. I started out on the m43 format with GH2, then GH4, and was then lured into full frame Sony. As well as a travel/on the road camera, one of my passions is bird photography/videography, and up here in the west coast of Scotland it’s nirvana for wildlife. I have an A7R3, and my longest lens is a Canon L 70-300 with metabones adaptor, I’ve been dreaming about the 200-600 or 100-400 G master but vault at price and size of the longer lens, so the idea of the Panny 100-400 (ie 200-800) in combo with G9II is very exciting. Thanks Hugh x

[@3BMEP]

Happy to be of service. 😊🖖🏻

[@MikeLindup42]

Thanks again. *baulk*, not vault 🙄@@3BMEP

[@3BMEP]

@@MikeLindup42 I knew what you meant 😊 “balk”

[@TheRealRichardWong]

Always a joyful experience watching your video Hugh! Congrats on reaching 100k!

[@BrentODell]

As a wildlife still shooter, primarily, if the dynamic range is too great, I'll often just lean into it. If birds are backlit and I can't get around to the sunny side(especially late in the day), I'll instead expose for the sunset and catch the birds as silhouettes

[@moongate31]

I love my Fujifilm cameras (and will continue to use them) BUT...early this year, I tried a Lumix 4/3 camera. I did so for the smaller size of the camera and lenses, but also because many of the older Lumix 4/3 cameras had generous discounts to their prices (lenses, too). I was so pleased with the first camera I bought (GX85), that I also bought a G95...and finally, a G9. These cameras are amazing...their menu system and touch screen implementation are the best I've used. Although they may be a bit short on megapixels, the image quality is still quite excellent and usable. I recently went to an indoor car show which had rather challenging lighting conditions: harsh overhead fluorescent lights, some daylight coming from an open garage door and very shiny and reflective surfaces on the cars themselves. All...ALL the shots I took with the G9 were perfectly exposed and in focus. They all look great. Can't wait to try the G9 II...and perhaps trade up. Yes, I am now a Micro Four Thirds fan.

[@DmitryPavlov-k2z]

Да , после g9 не хочется брать другую камеру .

[@knab2831]

how’d you like the g95? dont find a lot written up on it

[@drtod]

I would have like to see a comparison against the OMDS OM-1. One of the key differences between them are the sensors, OMDS went with speed compared to Panasonic with megapixels. - How does this affect rolling shutter? Also the OM-1 has a locked dial where as the new G9.m2 does not.

[@andrewblackburn1426]

This is what I'd like to see. I bought an OM-1 earlier this year because I'd given up waiting for the G9ii - but I really liked the ergonomics/menu of the G9 more than the OM-1 (had to bite the bullet to get the AF and IQ). Now I'm going to have to go home and try the AF test in video he ran in this video and see how it goes. :)

[@ijc9984]

​@@andrewblackburn1426I've upgraded from oly E5 3/4 to mmf OM1 . To oly users the menu is intuitive, just better. This has enhanced my experience as i already know the basics.

[@mb-watches]

Never thought I would say this: I shoot canon apsc since over 6 years. I do mainly video and lots of product macro video. That’s the reason why I stick mainly to apsc. I did check out before Panasonic but stayed away because of the autofocus… Seeing the lens selection, the new autofocus, the colours… well, this could work for me. Thanks for this review, really appreciate it a lot 👍🏻

[@3BMEP]

Happy to be of service. 😊🖖🏻

[@cameraz997]

Great video. It's nice to see someone extoll the virtues of an M4/3 camera instead of complaining about what it can't do. Now if Panasonic would just come out with new rangefinder-styled camera.

[@musicmaker11]

I've been rocking the G85 now for almost 8 years now. I've learned a lot and have invested in multiple lens to cover everything from 7 - 200mm. I'm definitely ready for an upgrade and I am strongly thinking of the G9ii.

[@fthprodphoto-video5357]

15:00 I shoot all my professional portraits with the GX9 and G9 and they usually come up better than with the Nikon FX D4S. I slightly over expose The GX9 (0.3EV) and use reflectors. Combined with either the 42.5 1.7, and sigma 56mm 1.4 the images are extremely sharpe and the bokeh looks fantastic. The great thing with Micro 43 is that the images never fail, my D4S on the other hand loses sometimes focus, has to be set between F4 and F5.6 anyways to get the full face sharp, and has lots of WB variations

[@zackbulatao]

GX9II next please... or a GX95? 😊 I had a GX7 and a GX85 and they were my Hybrid workhorses for years. The rangefinder style form factor is just perfect for my kind of work. :❤️

[@BenitoCarmela]

I wish we could have a GX95 with weather sealing and phase AF. Also some more pro lenses or upgraded versions with manual focus like Olympus.

[@wakizashilover]

I'm surprised you didn't use the 100MP photo's available handheld for the Chrysler building. Great video as usual

[@3BMEP]

Just so.

[@endah08]

There aren't any record limits and Panasonic MFT has the second widest lens selection out there. Probably the most once you include Olympus. You can also adapt EF and the old Nikon lenses with or without a speedbooster.

[@bjnslc]

If you want the maximum stabilization for Panasonic or Olympus you have to use same-brand OIS lenses, sadly. I hate that the MFT standard has been compromised in that respect.

[@bjnslc]

So I still love my G9 despite the AF limitations. I gather you haven't tried the OM-1, which delivers reliable phase-detect AF and great IS performance. I prefer the Lumix interface and I'm excited to see what else the G9 II offers, but OM Systems has been making the case for MFT's viability while Panasonic seemed to be relegating it to hybrid video-centrism. I'd love to dump my Nikon Z6 and optics and get the S5 II and the G9 II. The idea of not having to rethink operating a full frame and compact system when choosing between formats really appeals. Economics bring me back to Earth, however.

[@Serenoj69]

"mFT is back"...he must mean "Panasonic mFT is back". I shoot Oly EM1.2 ever since 2016. It has hires mode, it has OSPDAF, it has Live composite or what it is called. It has working AF-c in video. Video is otherwise pretty lacklustre. And it is still not Oly's strength. But after 2016 came the EM1X, the EM1.3, OM5, OM1 and OM1.2 (after this review). I prefer Panasonic cams over Oly due to menusytem and also the wheels and knobs. But without Oly mFT would have been in dire straits. I would have witnessed many more people jump ship. And still Panasonic is not doing enough at all for mFT. Where is a GX8 replacement? Where is a G90? No: it is either very lowend (G100) or the extreme opposite with the Gh7 announced this week. So even with G9-II, if it only would have been Panasonic, even with tgeh GH7 if there were no Oly mFT that system would have been gasping for air. As the Pythons said "he is not quite dead". So I love Panasonic mFT cams (I also shoot LX100 and even still the Gh4 of and on) for but no kudo's for a company that has left the enthusiast market it seems. The aspiring photographer or a tighter budget...We need a GX8-II that makes it more photocentric than the G9-II at least (tilting screen, tilting EVF 5,7 MP 0.75x, 25 MP etc). And if possible a G90-II with less bells and whistles than its bigger brother (a bit what the XT-50 is to the XT5 in Fuji).

[@parmanduke]

There hasn’t been a bad camera or lens made in quite some time and this camera is no exception. The technological leaps are astounding and I can’t wait to see what happens when ai is fully incorporated into af and processing. It’s going to be a fun ride going forward.

[@alantyson8182]

I love the style, feel and content of your channel, giving unbiased reviews! I was thinking of upgrading to Sony from a G9, but will now save a load of money by buying the G9ii and use my existing lenses. Thank you Hugh! 😀

[@3BMEP]

Enjoy!

[@ליהלי-צ8נ]

Thanks for a very comprehensive and helpful review.I am going to change my G9 to the new mark2 .A huge step ahead,finally, with all the features that I have been expecting.

[@3BMEP]

Enjoy!

[@StrangelyIronic]

It's a real shame that only one person I've seen so far do a quick-take of the G9.ii bothered to use lenses like the 15mm f1.7 and 42.5mm 1.2 Nocticron for stills. MFT can take incredible portraits and other shots that aren't just birds and other wild life at 400-800mm away. Using either an Olympus 25 or 45mm f1.2 you can get incredible shots with amazing smooth subject separation or corner to corner sharpness. Both for fairly cheap used, or even new, compared to comparable 50mm and ~90mm f1.2s in full frame (depth of field would be greater, but you're still getting f1.2 of light on the sensor). I'd rather shoot portraits on EM5iii or G9 over the bulky GFX gear I sold. If I truly need a larger sensor, I have a Pentax 645Z with a whole collection of 645 glass from old to recent. I had a GFX kit, but sold it off along with my Pentax k-1.ii because I never really used them over my EM5iii/G9 and KP. With current sensor and processing technology, MFT and APS-C would already be more than enough for basically all tasks outside rare niches. The only reason we don't have an A9ii with an APS-C sized sensor package is because Sony doesn't want to cannibalize their full frame sales, which make more profit off the more expensive glass. Same thing Nikon, the Z fc could have been a Z5 mini with a build quality on par with the new Z f. They're not going to do that because they would make less money. Canon's R7 is a great body for a lot more than sports and wild life, but they're not going to make standard focal length equivalent fast primes with weather sealing to open that up (and of course it's locked out so Sigma can't help). Leica made a commitment to APS-C with the TL into the CL, even calling upon the name of Oskar Barnack, the creator of the Leica camera, saying the CL would be the camera he would make today. It was too late, marketing spouting false out of date garbage that crop sensors are terrible quality and worthless had dug in and killed sales for the CL.

[@ryankwan1934]

Great camera. However, wake me when they give us a new GX or GM...

[@thedondeluxe6941]

That 100-400 lens is amaaazing. I had the old one, and I think it's still my favourite tele zoom ever made. This new G9 makes me wanna go back to micro four thirds for nature photography😁

[@3BMEP]

I hear you!

[@mediamannaman]

I can already shoot handheld with the 100-400 with my original G9 and get razor-sharp focus on a bird in flight, but many shots are out-of-focus too. From what I hear, the G9 ii will get all of them in focus, which is really exciting!

[@thedondeluxe6941]

@@mediamannaman I'd say the auto focus will be the biggest improvement from the old one. The image quality was already great!

[@pgtips4240]

What I love about it is the fact the 100-400 is an effective 200-800 on a mft camera. So not only are the cameras themselves excellent and full featured but you get an insane focal range at a fraction of the cost and weight of a full frame equivalent.

[@macmac6479]

Nikon Z?

[@Da_Man_1221]

As a fan and user of this system, I'm ecstatic there is a Lumix camera that can technically compete photographically with the OM-1 BUT! I'm a little peeved with two things about this camera. First, I don't see this body physically as an upgrade to the G9. Maybe even a slight decrease. The G9 had such a unique look with wonderful ergonomics and functions that are missing, like a locking mode dial, a Top LCD screen, A perspective shifting EVF (which I'm shocked didn't get boosted to the 5.6 million dot EVF in the Pro-S bodies), a front mode toggle switch (more useful now as a true hybrid camera and proven with the R5C). In comparison, the S5 body platform feels more prosumer, and I miss the "I'm a professional camera, and I'm here to eat your 1DX mark ii for breakfast" attitude of the original G9. Second, its relationship to the GH6, and no, it's not the autofocus ;). In almost all ways, these two cameras match each other in software features which for me is no big deal. It's not the first time this has happened in MFT. Both the G9 and GH5 had the same base video features and quality, with enough difference between the two to justify either camera. HOWEVER, here with the G9mkii and GH6 that is not the case. The G9mkii has a HUGE advantage with its image quality because of its implementation of Dynamic Range Boost. Looking back now, it's a little absurd that this new implementation isn't what we got with the GH6 at launch. 2000 base ISO for 13+ stops in the video is a big ask, but you're telling me you'd get it down to 500 ISO for use in your "photographer" camera? Some might argue that I shouldn't be surprised that a tech company improved its tech. Still, I'd say that with how close together these cameras were released, their unique positions as FLAGSHIPS, and the astronomical expectations for MFT system, on Lumix particularly, from the full-frame, phase-detect, 8k, and let's not forget SMARTPHONE dominated market, the GH line starts to feel half-baked. I really hope this can make its way into the GH6 so these systems can truly feel like similar, but distinct tools rather than replacements.

[@3BMEP]

Thoughtful, thank you!

[@ryankwan1934]

How can you find the G9 II's lens ecosystem limiting? You can mount everything from Olympus, Panasonic, Sigma and Voigtlander have made for the system. The only mirrorless ecosystem with a larger line-up is Sony E-mount.

[@mikeyc7072]

💯👍 I shoot a G9 with Olympus Pro Lenses - stellar quality!!

[@joestrahl6980]

I agree the totality of lenses for mft CANNOT be called "limited".

[@SpruceUp612]

Do you think it would be worth m43 coming out with some 1:1 size sensors? It would give a DOF punch as well as a quick way to give m43 a giant boost in attention. Seems so simple and I’d love to not have to rotate the camera for portraits! Plus imagine open gate video! Being able to crop in post however they want for social media vertical or horizontal with no drawbacks. Could you make a video about this? I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately haha.

[@BrendanMacWade]

Panasonic keeping M43 not only relevant, but a great choice for professional video on a tight budget. Anyone who bravely chose the GH series in the 2010s should be happy if and when they upgrade to the G9 II.

[@abrahamsimonramirez2933]

When I saw this camera I was immediately sold hands down

[@manilamartin1001]

As a gh4 and gh5 user, this camera looks amazing

[@mazeson]

Awesome, Hugh! Thanks for your swift review!

[@3BMEP]

My pleasure!

[@DocBoA]

I've been sitting pat on my G9 and GH5ii despite the temptation of the s5IIX, awaiting this or any M43 camera with PDAF. Automatic preorder for me(8 M43 lenses). Phenomenal review Hugh

[@3BMEP]

Thank you - and enjoy!😊🖖🏻

[@cameratrav]

Thanks Hugh, I think this is the most helpful real world review of the G9ii so far. I shoot stills on a Sony FF with relatively compact lenses and Lumix M43 with a G80/85 and the tiny non pro lenses for lightweight fun. I am not sure that I am ready to go for pro level M43 although those images of yours are very impressive!

[@3BMEP]

😊🙏🏻🖖🏻

[@willjoseph9004]

i've had g9 videos on a drip for the last couple days and these are the best photos i've seen on youtube, love it

[@3BMEP]

Glad you like them! 😊🖖🏻

[@HD.Adventuring]

This was tremendously helpful for us. We were honestly planning to switch to Sony from our Lumix GH6 due to the terrible AF, but now thinking we'll save the coin, stay in the MFT environment, and spend the $5k savings on some audio eq, big lens, and more travel!

[@ArmsLovers]

Great camera! Will need to wait for about 1 year before buying for prices to go down, and for firmware updates and fixes.

[@MillennialDiligence-sx8re]

I'm buying this camera used on ebay tomorrow for 1300. I literally am shaking with excitement. LUMIX finally got the final infinity stone with good auto focus, now it's off to the races. Every other camera company better watch out.

[@mrmoon1482]

I own the G9 and use the 100-400 most days for wildlife, the built in teleconverter gives me 1800mm equivalent in video mode I love it, only 2 things I don’t like about the G9 ii is no top lcd screen and different battery so I won’t be rushing to upgrade just yet,

[@margaretcopeland1055]

I've had my G9ii for a few weeks and am still trying to find my way around the menu. It's a powerful beast and so far, with the lens collection I have, I find it amazing. For me like the various movements "slow cooking" etc. I'm not in a hurry to get a photo. I have a iPhone, 5S, hate the photos but I don't think I'd ever by another phone just for the fact that it is "always there". For me, photography is a process. I like the walkabout, I'm not trying to make money, I could care less about my social media persona. I just want to take photos that are in focus and say something to me. Everybody else can think what they want.

[@3BMEP]

Delightful! Thanks for sharing!

[@laurentldoldi840]

Excellent! I have just ordered a G9-II plus Leica 100-400mm II and 12-100mm Olympus.

[@3BMEP]

Enjoy!

[@donalone]

Great music in the video. And I was wondering what else you can pick up from your table for the focus test.

[@canman4058]

Thanks for the video. Well thought out and put together. I have noticed that the cameras since the G85 are now much larger. The m4/3 cameras were smaller because the senor is smaller. Now this camera is slightly bigger that the Sony A7iv and the same weight. (Noted, the lenses will be smaller for the G9, for the same coverage) Since you are using the G9 for recording, I have noticed that the background gets lighter and darker. Is that the camera adjusting the exposure as you move you head left/right or is there changes in ambient/background light?

[@mediamannaman]

There are about 90 lenses now available for M43 from manufacturers such as OM Digital Solutions, Panasonic, Tamron, Sigma, Kowa, Venus Optics, and even Voigtlander. Quite a range of capabilities and prices. "Long in the tooth" - is that really relevant for lenses? Although, the M.ZUIKO DIGITAL ED 40-150mm F4.0 PRO was just released last year. This is the sixth review of the G9 ii that I have seen. So far, every one of them lists where they feel Panasonic fell short - for example, they all say that they wished the camera was smaller. And yet, most of them acknowledge that, with this camera, Panasonic has given them EVERYTHING that they had asked for since they reviewed the G9 and that it is now the standard to beat for many of its features. Somewhere there must be a manual for camera reviewers that says all reviews MUST find something wrong or else they are not legitimate. Still, I always enjoy your presentation, sir!

[@3BMEP]

I must have missed that manual - I think I just get cranky 😊. The key to understanding my take on the lens ecosystem is that I’m talking image quality, compactness, shallowest depth of field - and joy in hand. I am NOT talking about manual focus lenses from third parties, nor quantity. But of course reasonable people may disagree! 🖖🏻

[@mediamannaman]

@@3BMEP Fair enough. Hard to measure joy.

[@kentmemories]

Those 800mm FFeq shot comparison is crazy. G9II is amazing.

[@Bayonet1809]

But the full frame cameras weren't at 800mm. So if was somewhat of an unfair comparison.

[@beardedbastard7753]

@@Bayonet1809 It's the end of the range of the each lens so it is fair. If you shot the Sony at 100mm and the Pani at 100mm and compared what you don't see in the pani as it would be 200mm FFeq that would be a fair limitation of the lens to discuss. Should there have been a both shot at 400mm FFeq to really gauge the images maybe, but you are still hand holding the Pani and tripod on the sony. Maybe it's fairer to compare the 200-600 S ony than the 100-400 but it still loses at the long end.

[@3BMEP]

It is a very fair comparison once one stops thinking the way we’re told to think and take the time to figure what WE want to think.

[@joshc717]

I love my OM-1 and G9. Very fun cameras to shoot with. You would have to put a 800mm lens on the Full Frame camera to truly have an equal comparison. A 400mm on m43 is giving you a 800mm with the 2x crop factor. ITs going to look better than heavily cropping the full frame 400mm lens to a similar field of view. I would argue the Full Frame with a 800mm lens would provide a noticeable jump in resolution and image quality, at a much higher cost though.

[@3BMEP]

@@joshc717 correct. 👍🏻😊

[@toddwmac]

Thanks Hugh....have loved your "between the photo" wisdom. Thanks for reminding the value of getting out of our own heads once in a while..

[@3BMEP]

My pleasure! 😊🖖🏻

[@stevesnyder2500]

Sold! I'll be picking one of these up for sure (unless a GX9 II comes out soon with similar features).

[@martingreenberg870]

I look forward to that. Panasonic please listen to me. Please add an audio in jack for the GX9 Mii please. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)

[@MarcioK]

Happy to see Micro Four Thirds having a very good camera again (albeit the OM-1 is no slouch either). Started in photography with a GH2, and used a lot of m43 cameras. But...I saw both Panasonic and OM Digital making m43 a niche format. Video centric in Panasonic, wildlife and adventure in OM Digital. And I always was (and still am) a "midrange" body guy. Loved mine GX7, GX85 and GX9. But I could not see, and still can´t, see Panasonic doing a GX camera with the G9II internals. Probably the next one will be the GH7. Possible? Oh, yes, it is. I have the X-S20, with a larger sensor (hence a larger IBIS), and a battery as big as the G9II - and, EVF bump aside, have the same size of the GX9. And with 6.2k 10-bit 4:2:2 video. Then the lenses - the smaller total package was what the most important thing to me. Less bulk, less weight, amazing for travelling (my last big trip, prior to covid, was with the GX9, the lovely 12-32 zoom, the understated 45-175mm zoom, the 42.5 f/1.7, and a Rokinon 12mm f/2 - all in a messenger bag, never felt the need for anything else). But all the newer m43 lenses are big and heavy - the Panasonic 1.7 zooms, the Om Digital Pro lenses. In fact, the Panasonic 12-35 f/2.8 is a little bigger and heavier than the Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 for Fuji; ok, it is wider and have OIS, but the Sigma alllows to shallower depth of field, higher ISO advantage because of the bigger sensor, and is 250 dollars cheaper, even being a APS-C lens... In fact, the Sigma should be the blueprint for newer m43 lenses - m43 IBIS is amazing, ditch the OIS, and make smaller and cheaper lenses, with good optical performance. Or make OIS-less zooms with 1.8 aperture. But I don't see Panasonic investing too much in newer lenses. And OM Digital are making them bigger. Still hoping a GX10 to maybe come back to the system. But...i guess that will never happen.

[@3BMEP]

Thanks for such a thoughtful contribution to the conversation.

[@omnymisa]

Wow, now everybody have Amazing autofocus and is so wonderful for us customers!

[@karllong]

Been using panasonic for years & love the 12-35 DG, it is so spectacular. Also worth noting the access to the Olympus glass is a big benefit, I actually think Olympus has a slightly more pleasing colour in some cases, the 60mm macro is a gem, & the 45mm 1.8 is small, cheap & brilliant. The main reason I am thrilled to see the G9 II release is so I can get a better deal on the G9 in the near future which are already around the 400 pound mark :)

[@SD_Alias]

i have the old 100-400 and are very dissapointed after i got the panaleica 200 prime. The prime is sooooo much better than the zoom. Will try the new 100-400 and hopefully it gets on par with the 200 prime…

[@3BMEP]

Keep me posted!

[@markbrickley]

I think your videos are excellent and I watch them all but here you do a disservice by not even mentioning the om1 mark I or 2 … it is the blazingly obvious competitor to the G9ii and equals it in most ways. I have a om1 as it happens but would consider a G9ii and think your video, or maybe another one, could address why you prefer the G9ii to it. Thanks mark

[@benejpocock]

I'm an OM-1.2 owner, and do agree. I've just hired a G9ii body for a week to have a play. Haven't had it for 24 hours yet so can't really make any huge comparisons, but what I will say in the time I've had it is: 1. The OM1 is noticeably lighter (even though it's only 60g). 2. The OM1 fits nicer in the hand (for me at least). 3. I can't see any noticeable difference in image quality yet (I haven't looked too hard to be honest). 4. The G9ii battery life is poor compared to the OM-1. 5. I think the AF on the G9ii is going to be better - especially with tracking. It just seems to be more responsive. 6. I prefer the menu UI of the OM1. I'm no professional and everybody has their own preferences, but what I do think both Panasonic and OMS need to do, to really ensure the survival of MFT, is to make smaller/lighter bodies. The G9ii is the same body as the FF S5ii, and is the same weight as a Fuji X-H2 and Sony A7iv. The OM1 is only 60g lighter. A 'GX9ii' and an updated OM5 (to add the same batteries, USB and the UI as the OM1) would really bring a pair of cameras to market that capitalise on the MFT small form factor. Either way, both are stunning cameras!

[@titomiguelmarques5512]

Great review, but don't agree for the most part with the criticism about lens selection on mft, simply because it is the most established by far, with the most amount of lenses available, and a lot of them at an affordable price, as well as an open system for third party. About the only issue i see in their lens selection is that they haven't taken advantage of the smaller and squarer format to have in their arsenal more ultra fast primes, and very fast zooms, the 2 pana leicas beeing the exception.

[@3BMEP]

For me the issue is not quantity, it is IQ and speed parity with full frame.

[@jkryptos]

I have and old GH4 which still does a terrific job of 4K. But it's old and so I was thinking of upgrading to Nikon. Now, I'll just hold onto the GH4, buy the G9ii and use them as primary/backup cams. Bonus - won't have to upgrade lenses!

[@sergportyannikoff]

You may check “exposure compensation” in camera (exposure shifts)

[@CarlStammerjohn]

I had the same issue with my G9 when shooting video. It was fixed by changing I.Dynamic to OFF.

[@swadventurer6624]

I would have like some discussion comparing it to the OM1.

[@michaelsenn68]

Hugh speaks quietly: *turn volume up to 100* Music hits me at 110db: *turn volume down to 1 and seek care for ruptured eardrum* Beyond that, you made the G9 ii look like a good option for travel, so thank you for the review!

[@tonyc7352]

Yes, like you said, a rangefinder format would be the sweetest, even if it meant some sacrifices.

[@pentagramyt417]

IF: 1 - Olympus will release OM-1 mark II 2 - Olympus will increase resolution in megapixels to at least 30 Mpx in that new model 3 - Olympus will increase "tripod resolution" in megapixels to 100 Mpx 4 - Olympus will make also human faces autofocus targeting better AND that would happen in at max 2024..... then M43 will rock over APS-C most likely, and will get closer to FF. There always will be limitations because of image sensor obviously..

[@dannyli9424]

I shoot both MFT and FF. I do not have the G9 II and Panasonic 100-400 though but I have the EM1X + Olympus 100-400. to me MFT sensor is just a MFT sensor, the physical size of the sensor is always the main deciding factor on final image quality when against the 4 times bigger sensor, anyways I sold the 100-400 and never look back a second. I don't personally need 800mm equivalent FL that often so I am very happy to go back to my Nikon 300 PF , 500 PF and even occasionally the Sigma 150-600 Sport. since I don't crop much but use the " proper Focal Length " lens so it's very easy for me to tell the difference between the images captured with my FF systems and MFT system.

[@triumph_cv]

Micro 4/3 (Lumix) shooter here... and I loved your review and am convinced a G9ii is in my future. I may have to consult with Carnac the magnificent.

[@TokyoGritandGrain]

Honestly, at 12:00 and 12:18 I did the same thing, too. And yeah, a rangefinder-styled camera sure would be nice, because I'm hugely uninspired by most cameras these days. That might do the trick for me AND I could use that wide library of lenses on that rig.

[@careylymanjones]

Full frame sensors are 3.8 times as large as a MFT sensor. To match the pixel density of the G9 II, a full frame sensor would need 25.2 MP x 3.8 = 95.76 MP resolution. I'm not surprised at the detail it's able to capture with that kind of pixel density. I'm a full frame guy, but If shooting birds was my thing, I'd definitely be looking at MFT. In particular, the OM System OM-1 II. With autofocusing burst rates of up to 50 FPS, a stacked sensor, good AF tracking, and the 150-600mm f/5-6.3 lens, you've got a wildlife rig w/300-1200mm full frame equivalence for under $4500.

[@sentineloffreedomforever1381]

I can't figure out which is better the Panasonic or the Olympus OM

[@larsilyset]

Love my OM1 except that it bricked on me simply changing a lens!

[@jarmokarkkainen7621]

It is by no means a small feat they pulled here with this camera. The first 'serious' system I had was mft and this would have been great to see just say 3 years ago. So I'm just wondering if mft system can attract the attention it had back in the day...today. Competition is stiff indeed, and it may be tough to get lens manufacturers on board with this system when most have probably considered the whole mft ecosystem a fading one. Is it just a little too late remains to be seen...but a fine camera no doubt 👍

[@chrisklugh]

I've been rocking the GH5 for a few years now. Adore it. But it leaves me wishing for newer features. When the m2 came out, I kinda liked it, but still no dual ISO. The GH6 came out, and it was just a high ISO test thing. It did not apeal to me. So it had me looking at the new FF S5/ii. But that would mean extensive upgrades with lens. The G9 might squeak to my #1 all things considered. I really did not expect m43s to make a comback considering how good their FF cameras are.

[@heavenpuertorico]

Hello Hugh or Claudia! Excellent and extremely helpful information about the G9 II camera. Do you know if they are planning to add to the Lumix Sync app the fixture of exporting raw pictures to Mobil devices? Or when the IOS accept those raw pictures from the G9 II. On my first picture on my new g9 II that I took I was able to import that raw picture to my iPad ( only one). How this can be possible ? I love raw pictures , however I can’t transfers those into my Mobil devices. Thanks for your assistant ! Best from Puerto Rico and keep sharing your knowledge and experience with all of us.

[@3BMEP]

I don’t know, but I DO know that Panasonic’s @seanrobinson is a terrific resource; try reaching out to him directly.

[@patrickchase5614]

I have an extensive Sony+Canon FF system (built around an A1 among other bodies), but I also do a lot of ski photography and need to have light ILC systems both for that (my days of negotiating couloirs with 50 lb camera packs are over) and for my family to use. I therefore also have an M43 system (with both Panasonic and OM-1 bodies and lenses), and don't see it going away anytime soon. If you need compactness with long reach then FF just can't compete. The OM-1, G9II, and now the GH-7 all point the way forward IMO. Nitpick: At 6:11, the lens on the left is the FE 100-400/4.5-5.6 GM (you listed the max aperture as 6.3, but it's 5.6)

[@3BMEP]

Thanks for the correction! 😊🙏🏻

[@ucprof2008]

I have used a g9 with the 100-400 pana-Leica Tele Elmar, but have been disappointed by the poor selectivity of the AF system when following a bird in bare tree foliage. Did you evaluate a set up that would allow evaluation of that sort of situation?

[@sess5206]

Hi Hugh, Great review, I'm still flying the colors of my GH5. Looks really interesting. Enjoyed your comments on dedicated cameras versus cellphone cameras. Applying my experience as a musician, I'd compare it to the difference between hearing a concert with one of the "Top Five" orchestras in the States and all the others. They all sound great, but as a player, I will hear the differences that a laymen wouldn't. As good as the cellphone cameras have become, a dedicated camera is better. We're coming to New York in early January of 24. Would be great to meet you. Best regards from Stockholm

[@3BMEP]

We have to get to Stockholm someday!

[@artur.charaev]

Thank you for the review and especially for the note about g9II in more compact body. Oh God, I spend a year with GX9 and it such a great compact camera paired with 14-140 is just perfect setup for EDC or travel, but it's already 5-6 years old, I wish it was updated and with weather sealing.

[@stewartdillard7199]

I own a G9 and use it with the Pan Leica 12-60, Pan Leica 25, and Pan 100-300 when I am traveling. The system is so light and small I can travel with those 3 lenses+body in my peak design 45L pack plus have room for all my clothes, laptop etc. Sure I have a gap from 120-200mm FF equivalent but, I never find that limiting. My most recent trip to India produced absolutely superb images from architecture to wildlife. I couldn't imagine lugging my FF gear on that trip while having the same focal lengths. Sure, speed can be an issue but I can work around that. MFT is a great platform. With that being said, I am excited about the new features of the G9 II but, I think the body ergos took a major step back, no top screen display and locking mode dial are a miss in the II.

[@StevenHorwatt]

Good video, as usual. How would you say this compares to the OM-1, or have you had a chance to shoot with that?

[@3BMEP]

Olympus has never followed through in getting gear to me for review, so I finally gave up trying.

[@Princeton_James]

G9 had always been my favorite camera. I got a second S5ii recently but i should upgrade my G9 to the G9ii

[@ddsdss256]

MFT offers a huge array of glass, most of which is well into the "overkill" range regarding the ability to produce large prints, so that's hardly an issue. It's the same for res--even a "mere" 20MP is more than enough if you're not trying to read license plates from low Earth orbit. There is such a thing as "too sharp" and I personally find obviously digital images off-putting--they just don't look "real" (similar to the awful demo footage you see on the big-screen TVs in the big box stores). Re the EVF, I actually think they did "cheap out" a bit, as not only did they not go bigger (I was hoping for at least 5.76MP), but they went from 0.83x to 0.8. Not a deal-breaker, but more res is always appreciated!

[@3BMEP]

Good points, thanks for sharing.

[@gordon3988]

Nicely done and really enjoyed your closing at around 19:00. Like you would love to see similar features back in a smaller range finder style camera. Sony’s A7C II is a good example, but priced about $400 more here in Canada. The A6700 is priced about $700 less than the G9ii. Neither probably the choice however if big zooms are needed, but otherwise an option.

[@ChocoLater1]

I would love Panasonic creating 25MP mft camera without video future at all that offers the same quality as G9II. Purely for photographers and make it cheaper. Same body.

[@jimcoon]

pre-ordered the G9 II in early September. B&H just sent me an email asking if I wanted to cancel that order and select another product. What's with Panasonic announcing a new product but not being able to ship to the retailer "until late December"? This is just crazy.

[@strongereveryday2302]

I started with m43 when it debuted because I like to be different. I currently vhave a g9 and am considering the g9 ii. Im just annoyed they took away the top yop deck lcd and that the mode dial is not lockable

[@jimgunderson6439]

Thank you for the great video and commentary!!! You said the G9 II would be good for some sports. Would you mind expanding on that thought?

[@3BMEP]

The G9 II’s autofocus will only fall short when the photographer needs the very best AF in the market, and by that I mean Sony’s a9 III.

[@PilotRocker]

Hugh, did you get a chance to test the G9 II with our favorite M43 lens the 15mm PL Summilux 1.7? Looks to me like that could be a fantastic street photography camera.

[@actionimagesphotography]

I know you're aware of the light dark (thing) going on. Have you had a response from Panasonic on this? Absolutely amazed by the rest of this camera.

[@3BMEP]

I haven’t asked yet. Too much on my plate, and I haven’t ruled out the light itself.

[@alexsystems2001]

I think unfortunately a lot of folks left the M4/3 system (no I’m not saying you did) but I think a lot of folks did. I left my M4/3 GH5 a couple years back. I loved the system but they REFUSED to fix the autofocus 😅 I was perfectly happy with everything else, the moment they released the GH6 I realized Lumix just didn’t care. So I walked away.

[@HeichKiu]

Thanks 🙏for honest parts about G9 II wich is just "II" not "Mark two". Panasonic is an amazing japanese company with has own style and character where Spanish-Canon slang like "Mark"... amazing G9 II born from japan design Yujiro Kitagawa leader in Panasonic and the " II " deserves respect.. right? G9 II without doubt is a great camera with latest updates but despite the "red number II" belongs to G line not on "s" line... is the younger sister of GH6 whether like it or not. G9 II has great RAW 16-bit photography wich is so amazing but seriously speaking, only give 16bits as a way of compressing in a pure RAW range of 12 to 16 exactly the same as GH6, any professional knows RAW is variable compression and in essence uses between 14 and 16 bit depth depending on the scene with file size. G9 II have an EXCELENT battery pack besides not require large consumption due the less electronic complexity compared to the GH6... plus G9 II use 2 baby SD cards far from powerful CF Express type B.. so the video features are biggy differents not tons.. Something wich is "amazing" in G9 II is the PRO RESS video only in a FullHD resolution, ultimately the G9 II has an excellent price point maintaining the distance like a younger sister, GH6 (body) $2,200 and the "wonderful" G9 II only $1800... the hierarchy is evident. "Thanks" Panasonic for G9 II is the best... camera B... or just a great Photo Camera capable to make prosumer videos... like G9 copared with GH5 in 2018, tradition remains... this is the real option on market today .."Thanks a lot"👏💢💯

[@KeywordManagement]

I’ll have share some low light telephoto shots i took last week hand held with G9. I’m definitely doing upgrade to mkii

[@DarkTrapStudio]

Is using a speedbooster to adapt full frame is a problem for you ? It would deleted your ick about lens

[@Skipsul]

I love my Sony 100-400GM, but many that one looks great. I do a lot of astro, which requires manual fine tuning, and the sony focus by wire is far too twitchy. How was it on this?

[@3BMEP]

I didn’t try manual focus, sorry!

[@chemtrail_brew_Que]

I am looking for the best hybrid system...would you go S5ii or G9ii and why...

[@jasonstreet_art]

Thank you for this video. I'm really sold on this G9 II and all its lenses mentioned in this video. I'm impressed with the auto focus on the 12-35mm lens. The 100-400mm lens will do great for my reference photos of wildlife for my paintings. 🎨 🖌 I'm aware from other reviewers the 100-400 lens sticks a bit.

[@kennyadvocat]

Do you think the G9 II with 12-35 lens would be good for basic videos? I like the size factor here. APS-C cameras seem still kind of big considering they aren't full frame but have more lens options. micro 4/3 might be the format I've been looking for. Those photos look fanatic =) I used my D90 for ages but lately I'm mostly using my phone. Its just so convent.

[@SequoiaAlexander]

Haha my back hurt just looking at that monster full frame lens! I have that 100-400 telephoto and several other great lenses for my GH5 and I can throw it all in my backpack for a hike and not even notice. I love the micro four thirds system and I’m really lusting after the G9ii. EDIT: lol you made the back comment right after I posted my comment hah.

[@karikaru]

I was watching the announcement rubbing my chin wondering if I'd been premature in getting my s5ii for a whopping $2200 when this does everything that does and more at $300 less brand new with lighter lenses - still I'm happy with my s5ii and I think for my typical uses - it's the better suited camera. Still - living in central Asia I can't help but day dream of taking the g9ii with 100-400 and 2x teleconverter out to capture some snow leopards, Marco polo sheep, or a game of buzkashi. I'm officially a Panasonic fanboy now loving what they do with their lineup and business. Even decisions like putting this in the s5ii body - had to save them some money and allow them to price the camera more competitively while making their batteries and grips interchangeable. Now the common sense accessory they need is a L to MFT adaptor to further allow pros to comfortably work in the ecosystem across mounts.

[@3BMEP]

I would love to see an L to m43 adapter if I knew the FF lenses would hold up to the far more densely packed m43 sensor.

[@poetsguide]

Please Panasonic make a GX8 like camera with all the bells and whistles of a G9ii. I bought 43rd lenses for the overall small system size.

[@brucegraner5901]

I've been shooting the OG9 for a couple of years now with the 100-400mm lens for birding and I think even that combo is highly underrated. However, given the mission of a light-weight alternative, I wonder if either OM Systems or Lumix has ever considered a mirror telephoto lens not only for light weight but for their ability to blur backgrounds? I do hope to buy the G9 Mark 2 but I will definitely be hanging onto my OG9. I enjoyed your review.

[@erichly]

and we’re M4/3 back!!! Woohoo!

[@GoTravelPlanet]

Outstanding. I bought the g9 II last week and it is a blast! Great video

[@kgoodman16]

Hugh, when you can, could you test out photo quality for night / low light shots, a real weakness of the original G9. Thanks