Panasonic Lumix 12-35mm F2.8 vs 12-60mm F2.8-4.0 Comparison

[@farfromsubtle]

Love to hear your thought process on these comparisons. Your buddy does a great job as a patient subject!

[@PhillipRPeck]

If you shot at 24fps instead of 60, you could lower your shutter to 1/50 or 1/48 instead of 1/120 and get more light into your sensor.

[@valdiskrebs566]

Favorite travel/walk-around kit Oly 14-150mm on camera(OM-D E-M1) with Lumix 20mm f/1.7 and Oly 45mm f/1.8 in each pocket for low light and night time shooting.

[@TheDailyConversation]

Thanks for the helpful review, Daniel. Deciding between these two as my walk-around on the GH5 I just ordered...gonna get my 4k on!

[@danielsin]

+The Daily Conversation you're welcome!

[@wilsonkurien369]

You have got a great supporting buddy.

[@danielsin]

I'm thankful to have him lol

[@nerdMike]

I'm looking for a similar comparison. Nice to reach 60 (120mm) but in reality this 12-60 2.8-4 lens has F2.8 aperture only at 12mm, even at 13mm you lose light and at half of the focal lenght you're almost at F4.. quite bad if you consider it cost the same as 12-35 f2.8. I know you less reach but for m43 camera light is everything to get decent result :) maybe I'll go for the 12-35 lens

[@danielsin]

I let go of the 12-60 and I only use the 12-35 now

[@nerdMike]

@@danielsin I think to do the same, looking just at 12-35 even if a bit shorter, more light more life on m43 👍

[@macallanvintage]

Very nice video. I love the colour and sharpness👍 The GH5 is indeed great for video. Im using the G9 with the 12-60mm lens you tested. No complaints except that I hate focusing manually with it.

[@GabeCuello]

Totally agree.. making a comparison video now on these two lenses as well since I love them both!

[@EchelonArts]

If you already have the 12-35 (or any f/2.8 lens) with a few months worth of shots, see how many of these are below F4. This may help in determining if you should get the faster aperture.

[@balloonstuts]

Thank you for the video! Which lens is suitable for shooting my video tutorials?

[@danielsin]

+ШАРОВЕДАВ I would be for the 12-35mm since you have full control of the setting. And you can get that nice depth of field look easier.

[@SherwinIRL]

Thank you so much for this comparison! You're awesome ❤

[@SergeyFM_en]

at night you could switch to pana 25 f/1.4 or something, it will be much better than f/2.8 anyway. before this thought I wanted fastest zoom available, but you'll be penalized with price and weight. now I'm choosing between this lens and oly 12-100 f/4, that a bit weighty.

[@danielsin]

Yeah, I agree. I recently bought the 25mm and 42.5 F1.7 on B&H on sale. They are so light, I'm definitely bringing them on my trip. I want to stay with Panasonic as much as I can so I can get Dual IS 2 lol

[@sooovann8908]

I agree with Sergey, f/2.8 is too slow anyway when in a low light situation. You'll have to cranck up the ISO and it's never a good solution. 12-60mm is more flexible at the tele end and the future 50-200mm will be a killer lens to pair it with.

[@mnkwazi]

Sooovann when are they releasing 50-200mm?

[@sooovann8908]

End summer/beginning of fall 2017 along with a new body (probably the successor of the GX8).

[@guardianobserver6593]

SergeyFM EN channel At night better an aps-c or full frame. M43 at low light are known at they are not good.

[@SanjayC]

Good job with the review! How's the auto focus on these?

[@danielsin]

+Sanjay C since auto focus has more to do with the camera, the auto focus on my gh5 is not that great 😣

[@SanjayC]

I'm using a G85 and yeah, my autofocus is depressing. Have you found that different lenses improve the autofocus or are they all the same?

[@danielsin]

+Sanjay C with these 2 lenses, it feels the same to me. I don't notice any difference.

[@SanjayC]

OK cool. Hey, thanks for the quick replies. Good luck with your channel. I've got a channel on music production if you're ever interested!

[@danielsin]

+Sanjay C thanks, and no problem. I'll check it out!!

[@_fyra_]

Thx bud. Would choose the 12-35mm because of more bokeh and better low light performance

[@danielsin]

You're welcome! I made the same choice haha

[@eicarshiva]

Great review. Can you plz do detailed 12-60 vs 12-35ii lens review in video autofocussing. 12-60 is absolutly bad in video focussing.

[@ren1818ren]

Nice review. Made me realize that my kit lens on the GX85 is a good enough lens for now at least and to just get a prime for night. Thank you sir!

[@danielsin]

+ren1818ren thanks for watching!!

[@NetvoTV]

When will GX9 and GX95 release? Should I get the DSLR style G camera or the rangefinder style GX camera? Does it make a big different in carry and shooting? I'm looking for my first camera, was plan for RX10 series to cover wide and super tele but a lot people suggest to get an interchangeable camera so I decide to get A7 III(I don't like A6XXX series because how Sony treat this system) when it's out but it's big so I look for Fuji, I like the straight forward Shutter dial and aperture ring without need for mode dial, but their lens electronic contact are proprietary and never has many third party involve to build lens with autofocus, so as much as I want to get the XE3, this seem like a pulling leg for me. Then I look at Panasonic camera, like he LX10, P&S but with manual aperture ring and dial, is this for me? Then the LX100, this seem like more for me but it's deserve an update that doesn't know when it will come, then I check their GX8 and GX85 system, they are ok but still I will waiting for next models because there's something I don't like, but is this camera for me? GX9 or GX95? Does the lens system good? I shoot as a hobbyist/enthusiast, about lifestyle, travel, daily, architecture, indoor, product, street, and so on. After have a camera, I want to shoot night sky, wildlife/bird,

[@gamingwithstand6886]

Use DXO PhotoLab or DXO PureRaw for noise reduction Deep Prime for stills. Its mind blowing trust me.

[@MyMarquezTV]

very good comparison + detail, making it easier to understand the difference between the 2... good job man!

[@danielsin]

+My Marquez thanks!!

[@AprilClayton]

Thank you for the helpful video.

[@zerobambiro]

So many overexposed images in your video

[@ahojahojish]

I had the 12-35 f2.8 first - But I wanted more reach, so I sold it and bought the leica 12-60mm - I head reach and better background compression - YES! But I missed the constant 2.8 aperture. So I just bought the 12-35mm f2.8 used for 350bucks (amazing deal! Excellent condition). Moral of the story: Buy both LOL - I have the 12-60mm when I go out with my kids, on a hike, on a walk, jus a walk around lense in daytime. But I bring the 12-35mm manily for video or when I shoot indoors. Neither of these are really greta low light lenses though. I woul use the leica 15mm f1.7 or the 25mm primes for real low light. I love both lenses for different uses.

[@itzefitzefatze5709]

Great review. Thank you! Btw, you got a nice and friendly pal my friend.

[@danielsin]

Thanks for watching! And yeah he’s a cool dude lol

[@JirehProductionsLtd]

Thanks for this video, it really helped in my buying decision

[@danielsin]

You're welcome!

[@toddspears1637]

Hi Daniel great videos. Since watching your videos I ended up buying the 12-60 and the gh5s. My question is if you could help. When I connect the lens to the camera the small red LED light on lens does not light up. Am I doing something wrong?

[@danielsin]

I never had that problem before so I would not know. Sorry!

[@HJ-nh1wl]

Don’t forget to ‘multiply’ the x2 crop-factor for the aperture ..... therefore, these lens are really: f2.8 = f5.6 and f2.8-f4 = f5.6-f8!

[@erjennin]

Hemant Jariwala equivalent depth of field not light gathering. Bokeh isn’t only a factor of aperture. You control depth but distance from subject as well.

[@DiscoveryGalaxy]

Hello, I need recomendation i am looking lens for overhead shooting videos on table for youtube , Drawing,hand craft etc. which from this two will be better for my purpose LEICA 12-60mm, F2.8-4.0 ASPH Or LUMIX 12-35mm, F2.8 II ASPH Thank you for your time.

[@danielsin]

+DiscoveryGalaxy I always go for the 12-35 when I do overhead shots. You can also zoom in without losing light. And for my case, I don't need the extra distance from the 12-60 since the table is so close anyways.

[@DiscoveryGalaxy]

Thanks you . I was gonna buy 12-60 but now i am changing mined

[@tristanripoll6814]

Thanks bro you really helped me in my choice !

[@danielsin]

You're welcome!

[@ChadChristian]

great video, thanks.

[@eddiegomez4134]

Would you recommend the GH4 over the G85? Thanks

[@danielsin]

I would pick the g85, the ibis is essential when doing run and gun shooting

[@eddiegomez4134]

Thanks, I found a Gh4 body for $600 and a G85 body for $679. I'm a beginner and I probably wont be investing more money for a while. I might just go for the G85.

[@pumaabuahmed5928]

Very good video Thanks

[@quest307]

Did you use any extra stabilizer for the footage?

[@danielsin]

+quesT nope I did not do any post stabilization.

[@ManoloAlzamora]

panasonic 12-60 2.8 vs 14-140?????

[@danielsin]

+Manolo Alzamora i don't own the 14-140 so I can't do a video on it 😔

[@Young3C]

a ND filter is needed

[@KwasnikPictures]

I've heard the 12-60 has a weird manual focus/ hard to manual focus with the electronic ring? Is this a deal breaker when I decide to buy this lens, since I will mostly use manual focus for shooting?

[@danielsin]

+KwasnikPictures yeah it's focus by wire so it's calculating it electronically. Which is not very accurate if you want to hit the same focus point. I wouldn't say it's hard to focus because I can see the focus peaking and I can stop turning the focus ring when it hits the spot. If you do serious cinema work where you marked you're talent at 7 feet walking to their 2nd point at 3 feet and made points on your focus ring then it will not be %100 accurate.

[@KwasnikPictures]

thank you :D ill probably buy it than. You have me hope that its a good lens

[@pjchristiaens]

The Olympus 12-40 F 2.8 is the best one. Farther reach than the 12-35, sharper, and has a much better build quality. Th 12-60 is only really F2.8 at 12mm, so that is kinda sucky.

[@Ninerulecity]

but no O.I.S with GH5? Yes!

Now, what's lens you going to buy ??

I think you chose 12-35

[@danielsin]

If I had to pick one, you are correct. I would choose the 12-35mm.

I think 12-35 is better. Thanks you for your video. Nice to meet you.

[@juanalvarado7794]

That parks Look where they Filmed The Flash! 😊

[@danielsin]

Haha if they did, I would go there and watch them film 🤣

[@CabinKrue]

Whats up man, I really enjoyed this video. It was exactly what I have been looking for. My girlfriend wants to get into vloging so we got the Lumix g7 and the kit lens makes it hard to fit her face in the screen when she is holding the camera (she has short arms). We want to get a wider lens but I would also like it to have POWER O.I.S. because her videos are so shaky and I dont think the MEGA O.I.S. on the kit lens is cutting it. What would you recommend? We have been looking at the Panasonic lumix 7-14mm lens but from my research it doesn't appear to have power ois. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[@danielsin]

+DIYallday in terms of power ois I assume you mean by duel image stabilization? So far I don't know if any wide lens that would offer that kind of stabilization. Even the newer panny 8-16mm doesn't offer stabilization. I know these lenses here does have stabilization in the lenses plus the ibis. I recently bought and reviewed Laowa 7.5mm ultra wide angle lens. It doesn't offer any stabilization at all but it is a somewhat fast lens. If you need all the stabilization you can get i would go for the 12-35mm since it does offer it.

[@loft4me]

It's hard to concentrate on the commentary when the brother-man is whooping it up with the facial expressions, and I'm cracking up.

[@danielsin]

I'm glad you liked it 😂

[@NEPExperimental]

Racist

[@rengervanesveld]

Hi! I have a question for you. Hope you could answer me. This is the gear that i own: kit.com/Filmsvanrenger/video-kit. So now i'm looking for an other lens instead of the kitlens. So that's made me decide to choose between the 12-35 or the 12-60. The good thing about the 12-35 is that it has the f2.8 on full range. BUT the 12-60 has some more reach. So you reather prefer the 12-35 above the 12-60?

[@danielsin]

+renger van esveld it's very situational. If I know I'll be shooting with one lens all day including past sunset, I would pick the 12-35. The only time I'll use the 12-60 is when I know there will be plenty of light. Or when the low light isn't my priority, I'll grab the 12-60

[@RalphVentura]

Hey Daniel! Good work on this video :D Im struggling to decide what lens to get between these two. Right now i've got the 20mm 1.7 to film videos of myself practically stationary and some low light shots. Looking for a lens to use for vlogging/run&gun for my up coming travel videos. What do you recommend?

[@danielsin]

You may find the 12-60mm heavy if you do lots of vlogging throughout the day. I personally like the lighter lens (12-35mm) with its constant aperture. And its passable for low light as well. But if you tend to vlog during the day time for the most part then the 12-60mm would be more useful because of the zoom range. It is great when you need it. It also depends on your shooting style as well. If you like to zoom a lot then 12-60mm may be the better choice. If you want better quality in low light then 12-35mm.

[@danielsin]

And Thanks for watching!

[@kmshairstay]

You should buy a nd filter :)

[@danielsin]

+Nate yeah I recently bought one!

[@rileymelvin9109]

Great video man! I've been waiting on a comparison video just like this. I have the 12-35mm Mark II but I want to exchange it for the Leica 12-60mm. Does the 12-60mm produce sharper and crisper images and video? Can you see the "Leica" difference?

[@danielsin]

Thanks! Honestly, the difference is so small. I had to zoom in to like %600 to see the slightest difference. Both of these lenses (even with Mark 2) are super sharp. To answer your question is no. I would not be able to tell the difference. I borrowed my friend's Mark II 12-35 as well. Both of these lenses have the sharpness down on point. I noticed my 25mm 1.7 prime is very soft compared to the 2 lenses we mentioned above.

[@iamagelessiam]

@@danielsin I havet the 25 mm 1.7 and de kit lens 12 42 and they both are so soft, I was worried it was the camera actually. But watching some youtube videos I realized it was the lenses (good to know , as i was about to sell mi g7 which i really like except to those washed out colors). Tomorrow im getting de Leica, at first i was planning to buy the 12 35, but it was way more expensive in my country, and actually needed the extra focal lenght, so I decided to buy the Leica, hope I can achieve better results with it

[@danielsin]

Bm K yeah when I started to take pics with the 25mm 1.8, I noticed the softness compared to the 12-35mm

[@namu5583]

I own two 12-35 and they all broke down. They can't focus. Too bad because they are an excellent lens.

[@danielsin]

Wow how unfortunate, I sold my 12-35 M1 because the focus ring wasn’t smooth anymore for M2 a while ago and it’s still going strong

[@namu5583]

@@danielsin Now I'm going to move to Olympus 12-40. I hope they are more reliable.

[@danielsin]

I wish the best on the Oly lens! I heard they are built great as well.

[@officialtiimo]

Your bitrate looks way too low, dude. I can't get an accurate comparison of these lenses because there's so much artifacting in the video.

[@telelaci2]

Yeah this record keeps blobbing continously, like a bad CATV. I don't understand how can't you take notice of it. It ruins all test.

[@SullyCortez]

I would bring neither lol. I'd bring my Metabones Speedbooster S, and my sigma 18-35 ;)

[@LifeFlight101]

Sully Cortez does the speedbooster allow the auto focus to work on the sigmas?

[@SullyCortez]

Yes it does, in fact it's actually quite good even in video mode. Obviously you need to be careful of pulsing with aaa that is MFT worst problem when it comes to AF in video, but yea in Photo it's wicked fast and video it's semi reliable

[@LifeFlight101]

Sully Cortez thx for the info, much appreciated.

[@RumanHamdani]

Sully Cortez you have a nikon or canon mount on the 18-35?

[@SullyCortez]

canon mount

[@tlfilms207]

honestly can't really tell the comparison besides the focal length, your exposures are horrible bro. sorry

[@soulcareer5261]

Thanks for the informative video. It could have been even better if you used an attractive Korean girl as your model.