Panasonic Leica 12-60mm F2.8-4 vs Lumix G X 12-35mm F2.8 II on G9 GH5 GX9 GH5S

[@TheHybridShooter]

Images were edited in *Luminar 3* - bit.ly/SkylumLuminar2018 - $/€ 10 off code: THS10

[@Razeea]

i like your videos because you always review about micro four thid cameras and lense

[@Princeton_James]

Glad I kept my 12-60. Had it for sale for a while, then started playing with an fell in love with it. Wanted to 2.8 constant but I really dont need it. You know how that goes.

[@KarlRock]

Thanks! I really enjoy your comparisons. I'm gonna get the 12-60mm. I need that extra zoom for travel

[@TheHybridShooter]

You're welcome, it is a great lens for traveling.

[@mikehunt2667]

Good for zooming in on call centres too !

[@corrbox2]

Your review is very well done and terrific in comparison details. I have both of these lenses. I bought the 12-60 after it came out 2 years ago. Now, I rarely use the 12-35 anymore, but it is an excellent lens, especially when I want the 2.8 f stop max. It is a very sharp nano coated Lumix lens. The Leica 12-60 is a great all around lens, and it is my "go to" lens, which I keep on my G9 for all the time use. Today, as the lenses are about the same cost, I recommend a photographer chooses what they feel is most important, the extra reach and sharpness of the Leica 12-60 or the extra wide f stop of the 12-35, 2.8. Neither lens will be considered wrong in your choice. Thanks again for your very interesting and informative review. Bravo!

[@TechLineHD]

Great comparison man! I have a 12-35mm lens and I love it. However, the zoom range on the Leica is amazing!

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you, it is mostly a matter of what you prefer.

[@DiscoverWithDima]

Thanks for the review, I am definitely going for the 12-60 after watching this video. I just bought the GH5ii and am excited to take my travel filmmaking to another level!

[@michaelb4092]

How would you compare the Leica 12-60mm vs the Fuji 18-55mm since you have a good deal of experience with both?

[@quiver99]

Michael B i own both. I can tell you that Fuji 18-55 is a stellar lens. Combined with the Fuji X-E3 makes it an unbeatable ready-for-everything combo and that would by far be better than a 12-35 f2.8 Panasonic lens coupled with any camera if you use it for weekend or short city break. Quality of images is stunning. Panasonic 12-60 is more a universal zoom and coupled with the 9-18 and a small prime (20mm or 15mm) is a better complete package for short holiday or urban photography on the go. When I want the best out of my images I carry 2 Fuji’s (mostly X-T2) and 4 lenses (18-135, 10-24, 50 f2 and 23 f2) and I’m set for everything. It’s a better package than MFT, in my view, and it can cover all your needs for as long as you travel.

[@evenaicantfigurethisout]

Does the 12-35 ii exhibit parfocal behavior? I read on a thread in dpreview that it mimics parfocal (even in MF) but only down to 18mm. Wider than that it gives up. Has this been your experience? Or were you able to see parfocal behavior wider than 18mm?

[@RogerBays]

Wondering about a couple of things. When the Leica is zoomed to 35mm (the max zoom of the lumix) what is the widest aperture value available? Also what max zoom setting can the Leica still offer f2.8. Thanks.

[@TheHybridShooter]

You can see that at 1:42

[@milodemar]

What if i shoot both video and pictures alot? I mean i would want more sharpness honestly through the bigger range. And I do my video work just fine with the kit lens and so on... what do you think i should really look at..?

[@un4givingrelentless574]

I was just thinking about these two lenses thanks for the informative video will you be getting the G90.... got a question what would be a good lens where I want the whole scene in focus including background and no bokeh but I’ll be shoot items small in size but quite close to the subject to get interesting angles?

[@TheHybridShooter]

It is possible that I will get G90. You can get deep depth of field basically with any lens if you stop it down. I use 30mm F2.8 for macro and I am generally happy with that one.

[@un4givingrelentless574]

@@TheHybridShooter thanks

[@hVF8KZuQPeCc8u]

Great video comparison! I wanted to get a good lens for my G9 this last Christmas. It came down to these two lenses. At the time, the Panasonic Leica 12-60 was about $200 less at roughly $700 (it is now back up to $897 on Amazon). It was a no-brainer for me, I got the Panasonic Leica 12-60. It has the extended zoom range but alas, does not have the constant 2.8 throughout the zoom range. I can deal with that though. Love this lens. However, getting the Panasonic 12-35 and also the 35-100 seems like an excellent choice. With those two lenses, you'll have most everything covered. Then get some cheaper fast prime lenses for low light.

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you! Personally I would much prefer Leica 12-60 and 50-200 combination in that case. 35-100 has "swirly" which I don't really like to be honest.

[@raksh9]

I've been using the 12-35 and 35-100 for docs and corporate work since 2013, and they have been great. The 12-35 developed an AF motor fault, so I bought another one with the intention of repairing the original and having a spare 12-35. The 35-100 v1 has microjitters during video, so I turn off the OIS and just use Panasonic body IBIS, which works very well.

[@RustyZipper]

I’ll watch even though we’re no longer friends 💔

[@TheHybridShooter]

I was just tired of saying it every time.

[@RustyZipper]

Lol, I hear. Just wanted to let you know we liked hearing it but understand it’s monotonous

[@RhettThompsonFilm]

@@RustyZipper curious what this is about.

[@RustyZipper]

Rhett- at the beginning of every video he normally says: “Hello My Friends....” but he feels its monotonous and stopped for a bit. We’re on here teasing him by just saying that we liked hearing it but I understand why he shouldn’t feel the need to say it. I’ll always be his friend because the quality and unbiased information he offers is unparalleled

[@theportraitist4888]

@@RustyZipper I find the greeting charming and friendly. And a big step up from the long cliche YT opening of "WAASSUP!?!"

[@chrisrichtermindset]

Brother I do more instagram reels and outdoor videography but I do like to do some photography do you recommend the 12-35? I am use to the 25mm Lecia but I just upgraded from g85 to g9

[@faithalityblog]

Thank you for this review. I was only wondering (I know it might be obvious but is very important for me) is the semi macro performance the same in both. Can both of them get as close?

[@98JamesNixon]

I have the 12-35 ii and love it for video and photo. Would like the extra reach of the 12-60 but wouldn't trade it for the constant 2.8.

[@TheHybridShooter]

Yeah, that is mostly a matter of preference.

[@98JamesNixon]

@@TheHybridShooter yes definitely, would like the 12-60 For travel though

[@maheshg212]

you can always add a 42.5 f/1.7 or a 56 f/1.4 That will be much much better than having leica at 60/f4 :-)

[@98JamesNixon]

@@maheshg212 that's very true, have been looking at the 42.5 1.7 for my GH5s & G80, very tempting! :D Using the FD 50mm 1.4 at the moment for video, great lens but all manual, so not so good for travel.

[@elid377]

Thank you! are you going to get 10-25 1.7 when it comes out? would love to see your review

[@TheHybridShooter]

You're welcome, it is possibele that I will get one.

[@elid377]

@@TheHybridShooter It looks HUGE

[@TheHybridShooter]

@@elid377 I don't think so after seeing it in person.

[@buby024]

@@TheHybridShooter how would you compare it with sigma 18-35 and speedbooster? Does 10-25 look smaller in size?

[@TheHybridShooter]

10-25 is significantly smaller and lighter.

[@312SES]

Regards from Sweden! Hi Neighbour! Have you had any experience with the Summilux 12mm Prime F1.4? Would it be a good lowlight compliment to the Lumix 12-60 f2.8? Or is there better prime, native 4/3 alternative?

[@TheHybridShooter]

Unfortunately, I have never tested that one. It is probably a very good, but way too overpriced for what it is. I would probably go with 15mm F1.7 even though it is different FOV.

[@martinweber3859]

How about the Leica vs. 12-40/2.8

[@TheHybridShooter]

I unfortunately don't know, I don't have 12-40 F2.8.

[@JeevesTCW]

Thank you for this comparison and also the 12-60 leica vs lumix. Covered all points i wanted not just sharpness but image characteristics brilliantly. Looks like I will be buying my 1st Leica branded lens (2nd hand for my Oly OMD EM5 II).

[@no-trick-pony]

What about the Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 12-40mm f2.8? You can get that lens used for around 420. Do you have an opinion on that or reviewed it?

[@TheHybridShooter]

I use Panasonic M43 cameras, so I prefer 12-35mm F2.8 II because of the dual IS and DFD.

[@joec.1030]

Very informative. Always enjoy your uploads! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you!

[@jankla4419]

Thank you for your videos, there are so many test videos, where you can't see any footage, instead just a person talking. You have very good examples and a good structure in your review, thats quite cool!

[@TheHybridShooter]

You're welcome, I'm glad that you like this format.

[@kleinkurti]

I wonder whats the minimum aperture at 35mm on the Leica.

[@Alexrocks1253]

What country do you live in? These locations look like prime spots for shooting landscapes

[@TheHybridShooter]

I live in Slovakia, but sample shots in this video were mostly shot in other countries.

[@michaelhawkins1173]

Hi great video as always thanks. Do you know if a 77mm circular Variable nd filter is visible in frame when attached at the 12mm focal length? Thanks for all your help and guidance.

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you, unfortunately, I really don't know that.

[@TechLineHD]

I just watched this video again. Started using my GH5s more and I really want more zoom range (using 12-35 lens). Now I want 12-60 haha

[@TheHybridShooter]

I actually switched to 12-35, that variable aperture on 12-60 was a bit limiting for indoor shooting.

[@bigdhav]

Thanks for this! I was considering both but am leaning towards the g X 12-35 as I already own the 12-60 kit.

[@TheHybridShooter]

You're welcome, it is mostly a matter of preference.

[@bigdhav]

And to be honest I am also considering the S1R with 24-105. Or sigma lens later as I already have the G9 and enjoy it's size performance ratuo

[@LucasBeatz]

Great one again, thank you! I would also like to see comparison between one of those with Oly 12-40. Btw is 8-18 on similar sharpness level as 12-60/35 or is it softer?

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you, 8-18 is also very sharp, at least as sharp as 12-60. I also made a review of that one: bit.ly/Leica8-18

[@JennyDarukat]

Any chance you could bring the Olympus 12-40 2.8 into the comparison? I really enjoy the look of its images, focus clutch, the lens hood mech etc so I will likely buy it over the other two lenses here (for use with G85/G80), unless there is a good reason not to - you're the one I'd trust to find it, if anyone!

[@TheHybridShooter]

Probably not unfortunately, I prefer these two over 12-40 because of the dual IS 2 so I don't have 12-40.

[@jameswilson9011]

I really hope theres linear focus, also don’t forget about 4k center crop for zooming farther, might make the 35mm amazing with OIS and center crop sharpness. 4k is only 8MP out of the 20MP, so I use the C1-C3 dial to zoom farther, and also have RAW burst modes for ultra low light video clips (only 1-3 seconds before cooldown + saving)

[@paulpuccioni9489]

I hope you don't mind the correction - your English is amazing - we don't say "my most favourite". It is always simply "my favourite". Yes, we all love your signature "Hello my friends"!

[@TheHybridShooter]

Well, I say most favorite if mean that I like it the most and say favorite if I just like it. I was a bit tired of "hello my friends".

[@paulie14O]

Thank you. It helped me clarify what I already knew. I’d rather have the Leica lens for sharper images and a variable aperture. I want to carry as few lenses as possible. Cheers!

[@franzweber7494]

Were have you shot the seaside scenes?

[@TheHybridShooter]

Sardinia and Corsica.

[@GordLamb]

Great video as always but as the best and most trusted (imo) reviewer of mirrorless gear on yt, I'm so eagerly awaiting your thoughts on the g95! :)

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you, I appreciate your feedback. I will try to make G95 review as soon as possible.

[@ThePandaPhotographer]

Such amazing in-depth video. Bravo my friend and keep them coming

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you, more video are on the way.

[@PhilippGatterer1]

Great comparison video man! If I wouldn't use the speed booster I would definitely buy one of these beasts! Nice channel keep it up! :)

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you, will do my best to keep it up!

[@nerdMike]

Hello, may I ask you a tech question? Apart from the fact I like you channel ;) How did you make KZbin to create auto-captions in English? Even by setting video language "English" and speaking in English (in my case) it generates CC in wrong language :/ maybe the country of the Channel is not a country with English as language (Italy), but I see you have your specific country in the profile and it generates good subtitle in English, thank you.

[@TheHybridShooter]

Unfortunately that happens sometimes to me as well, KZbin should be able to that automatically, but sometimes it doesn't work.

[@snowcrystal10]

bmpcc4k which will better for vedio

[@glennsak]

“Hello, my friends!”

[@B.Mahmoud.W]

Hi, I have G9 and I would like to know what is the best lens for youTube video shooting. I hope you answer and thank you

[@TheHybridShooter]

That is kind of what this video is about.

[@B.Mahmoud.W]

The Hybrid Shooter I'm sorry, I don't understand English very well, so please give me the name of the best lens, for KZbin video (reviews)

[@TheHybridShooter]

@@B.Mahmoud.W Panasonic 10-25mm F1.7

[@B.Mahmoud.W]

The Hybrid Shooter Thank you so much 😊

[@evenaicantfigurethisout]

is the 12-35 very much better than the kit 12-60 optically to justify the price?

[@TheHybridShooter]

That always depends on how important is the image quality for you, but there definitely is a difference.

[@pavelp80]

Not for me. Or it depends. I have 12-35 v1 since 2013? and problem of this lens is lens flare, which is not that significant on 12-60 and obvious shorter reach. Regarding to sharpness, they are both good, but 12-35 is a bit unsharp on longer end, while 12-60 seems bit sharper in the mid range which is the same. Differences in sharpness are not significant and maybe they can vary from piece to piece. But 12-35 is much better at low light conditions making this lens more versatile in dull winter days with heavy overcast and sun low above horizon. Zoom ring is better (completely smooth) on 12-35 which makes it better for video. But 12-60 is nearly flawless lens with only "flaw" being aperture. For indoor use fixed zoom primes such as 20/f1.7 or 45/f1.8 and many others might be actually better choice than "upgrade" to 12-35. It really depends what you already have. Since 12-60 is pretty good lens for low price especially with camera and it's a bit different, but not much and it's not clearly better I don't think it's worth upgrade.

[@sajjadal-lawati3133]

Hi... Thanks for wonderful videos and advises.. I take landscape images which model of lumix would you recommed for me please

[@TheHybridShooter]

Depends on your budget. S1R is the best Lumix for that.

[@DouglasSun]

Thank you sir! That's exactly what I need right now. I am comparing the Leica 12-60 and Lumix 12-35. As I shoot video ONLY on GH5s I will choose the Lumix 12-35 as you suggested in the end.

[@TheHybridShooter]

You’re welcome, I’m glad that it was helpful!

[@HEYDJ]

Are you gonna check out the Lumix G95? 😃

[@TheHybridShooter]

I will try to.

[@ExploringWorldYouTube]

Thanks to share your interesting video. I'd like to know if there is another better zoom lens but with the same focal length of Leica 12-60mm F2.8-4 (around). I'd like to buy for the GH5 MarkII. Thanks

[@TheHybridShooter]

I don't thinks so, but I have left M43 system a long time ago, so I am not following M43 lens releases.

[@ryanthomas9306]

Its said the 12-35 is par focal, but I dont think it actually is. I've messed around with it and sometimes focus was off when using afs while zooming in. Also while zooming you can slightly notice a flicker

[@TheHybridShooter]

All of my test were done with MF. flicker might be caused by in-camera corrections, but I haven't had issues with that.

[@raksh9]

No way the 12-35 is parfocal. I have nothing versions and neither are parfocal. It's sometimes possible to get a parfocal effect depending on the distance to the subject, but this takes a lot of experimentation.

[@nobooya]

I actually went for Olympus 12-40mm for that extra 5mm and I'm happy with it. According o tests it's sharpest at wide open aperture, while on lumix 12-35 you need to step down to F/4 for the best sharpness. Shame that custom button on lens doesn't work on G80, but it should work with some newer panasonic bodies. Not having OIS in lens is not a such beag deal, because focal lengths of this lens are not so extreme, IBIS is more than enough. I don't see any difference in focus with DFD (lumix 12-60) and without it. Probably newer generation of DFD makes much bigger difference. Also it has a little bonus - it can be focused manually with electric wire and classic way. The only downside I can see compared to lumix lens is noise of focus motor, It's actually quite loud.

[@TheHybridShooter]

There is still a big difference between IBIS only and Dual IS even at wide end. It is deciding point between 12-35 and 12-40 for me, together with in-camera corrections.

[@kurts_aviation]

great review thanks I purchased the 12-35mm and performs very well on the G9

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you!

[@SymonIero]

Which one has better stabilization?

[@TheHybridShooter]

It is basically the same.

[@mopz2093]

Ho hoo ...Panasonic g95/90 coming out . M4/3 is alive .!!!!! Great review again. Hello my friend.

[@TheHybridShooter]

Hello, it indeed is alive.

[@nobooya]

Only shame that g80 never really got some big update with new features like better AF in video. Now that G90 is out, its 100% sure that we won't have any update coming

[@TheHybridShooter]

@@nobooya G80 unfortunately didn't have enough processing power for better AF system and it used older venus engine, so that was limiting possibilities of FW update.

[@opopo200]

Where is that gorgeous wooden church located? Romania?

[@TheHybridShooter]

That is near Bardejov in Slovakia.

[@nordfresse]

I dont think linear focus will ever be available on a mft camera since the lenses are focus by wire as you say yourself. Different story with ff lenses on the S1 L-mount. But I could be wrong.

[@TheHybridShooter]

24-105 F4 is also focus by wire and it can be set to linear, so that is not a limitation.

[@StuffAdamLikes]

Awesome video, thank you so much! I decided to go with the 12-60, after extensive research and internal debate 😅. Video on GH5 is my primary use case but with only the budget for one lens right now I opted for the greater flexibility (and seemingly better overall performance) of the Leica. However, I also took your advice to try out the Pergear 25mm lens as a fast prime - of course not the highest optical quality and no AF but as you said, it has character- so we’ll see! Thanks again for your great, insightful reviews.

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you, the optical qualities actually are among the best on that 25mm F1.8.

[@StuffAdamLikes]

The Hybrid Shooter It looked good on your test shots! Thanks for the good suggestion - would not have found that on my own.

[@michaelhawkins1173]

Brilliant video gave you all you need to know and more. Terrific thank you.

[@villemononen5303]

Nice lenses and results! Parfocal effect seems to be electronical though. @ 7:06 seems to work better on the higher contrast scene (the lens), but hunts / adjusts just a bit (almost unnoticeably) on the lower contract scene (the firs). Still, it's pretty good and for normal use it's nice. Way better than those without such fine micro adjustments for video use. Still, would i feel confident about in let's say an interview situation? Hmm. This is a good reminder to look into the older shorter manual focus parfocal zooms again. It's a bit of a mystery still, but maybe i'll start with older Olympus and Canon lenses. Mechanical focusing ring just has the better feel anyways, and is much more efficient on the battery use. Now that i'm learning to service the older lenses properly, all the better. I prefer older vintage lenses anyways, but m4/3 lenses nicely fill the other needs when i need AF for faster action perhaps (or more compact size). So many options, so many great lenses!

[@TheHybridShooter]

That is probably caused by real time in-camera corrections for vignetting and distortion.

[@villemononen5303]

@@TheHybridShooter Maybe.

[@GermanViking]

Hello my friend! Thanks for this video, you just help me again. I wanted to ask you if is possible that you can make some other comparisons between: Panasonic 42.5mm f1.7, panasonic Leica 42.5mm f1.2 and Sigma 56mm f1.4 It will be a very interesting comparison for m4/3 portrait and creamy Bokeh fans. Best Regards.

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you, it is possible that I will do that in the future.

[@tobiasmoeckel]

I own both the 42.5 f/1.7 and the 56 f/1.4. Both are great for what they are. The 42.5 shines, of course, by being so tiny and light. Optically it is very good and images are sharp, even wide open. The 56 is phenomenal at that price! Super solid build and feel. Lens hood is very good, too (better than many of Panasonic's). It is also sharp wide open and ridiculously sharp when stopped down a bit. Both those lenses combined are still less expensive than the Nocticron, and you get two different focal lengths. Especially the 56 provides very smooth and creamy bokeh. So for me, this is a no brainer. Sure, the Nocticron is tasty, but again, at around 430 bucks you cannot go wrong with the 56. I love it. Just my 2 cents...

[@ryanthomas9306]

As someone who has loved the 12-35. I was extremely disappointed when the fuji kit lens was much sharper

[@TheHybridShooter]

Which Fuji kit lens do you mean?

[@leovanlierop4580]

@@TheHybridShooter I think he means the XF18-55. Recently I did a comparison (for a special trip) between the Pana 12-35 and the Fuji 16-55 for landscapes. The difference was not subtle. So I will carry the extra weight this time.

[@Princeton_James]

Yes. It's hard to believe the Fuji is a kit lens. I'm hesitant to even call it that. It's really to bad that Fuji video sucks. I have nothing but pulsing on multiple Fuji cameras. It's Sony or Panasonic for me when it comes to video.

[@kojie333]

Click thumbs up if you want the “Hello my friends” intro back

[@toxictabasco]

Great comparison review on very nice cameras.

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you!

[@DaveKingMusic]

Thank you my friend!

[@TheHybridShooter]

You're welcome!

[@howardhsiao7917]

you have to test the Olympus 12-40 f2.8 as well, it may trump both of them

[@TheHybridShooter]

I has no OIS, so probably not for me, but I may do that in the future.

[@lthamalainen]

Thanks for a great video! I just got the 12-60 Leica and I noticed there's a small wobble on the inner lens barrel when the lens is set to 12mm. It's a really tiny wobble, less then 1mm, but still noticeable. It feels solid when set to anything above 12mm. I haven't noticed anything wrong in the pictures, they are sharp for sure, just wondering if this is normal behaviour for the lens. Does anyone else have this tiny wobble at 12mm on their 12-60 Pana Leicas?

[@TheHybridShooter]

You're welcome, there is a little bit of play.

[@juanpachonsantos4201]

wich of the two lenses stabilize better for video.?

[@TheHybridShooter]

Stabilization is about the same.

[@juanpachonsantos4201]

Thanks

[@bjnslc]

The Leica line's lens switches are too easy to accidentally move with normal handling. The Lumix line uses switches that are more recessed and the direction of action is less susceptible to unwanted activation. My first generation 12-35mm has had the focusing ring become very difficult to turn. I've seen posts that indicate the lubrication can fail over time. I agree on your assessment of the hood. The 12-35's hood also lacks a firm detent.

[@ruff1draft]

The Leica 12-60 is more versatile and it has more focal range.

[@bryansemnani]

Last time I was this early, somebody was CERTAIN m43's was dead

[@TheHybridShooter]

Yeah, they where proven wrong.

[@RustyZipper]

✌️💯👍

[@JoeMaranophotography]

Haha yeah two brand new cameras from both manufacturers and a new one joining the m43 system lol

[@artemx3000]

My 12-35 mm (I) makes huge vignette at wide angle 😕

[@TheHybridShooter]

Are you using it on Olympus camera?

[@artemx3000]

@@TheHybridShooter On Panasonic GX80

[@TheHybridShooter]

That is unusual then, I had no major problems with vignetting on any of the cameras that I used it with.

[@cmartin_ok]

Check that the diaphragm in the lens is operating correctly

[@TorstenVillnow]

Excellent review - as always :-)

[@TheHybridShooter]

Thank you!

[@Chilled_Wombat]

It looks like the 12-60 mm has a lot of ghosting. Is that true?

[@TheHybridShooter]

No, it is not.

[@Noealz]

they both look good to me ;)

[@TheHybridShooter]

To me as well.

[@mgelinfilms7344]

Good video. Thank you for this.

[@DarkTrapStudio]

Great video thanks, too bad the leica doesn't have constant aperture :(:(:(:(:(:(:( As I want to use it for video and photo

[@BrianJangima]

Will you do an Omega Watch giveaway?

[@TheHybridShooter]

Probably not.

[@kophotograph1803]

I want to sell my 14-42 Kit now to get the 12-35 for my gx80 😂 I only have to save up some money as its pretty expensive for me 🙈

[@jan-martinulvag1962]

Compare a good lens and a bad lens instead. Show me how much better they are than a kit lens

[@TheHybridShooter]

I already did that.

[@jan-martinulvag1962]

@@TheHybridShooter what is the video called? Cant find it.

[@cmartin_ok]

I think that the 12-60 is very over-priced for what it is

[@TheHybridShooter]

I do not, especially if you are buying it in kit.

[@cmartin_ok]

@@TheHybridShooter The Leica lens is about £800 in the UK whereas the slightly slower 12-60 is under £300, so it's 2 and a half times more expensive for an extra stop at the longer length. The 12-35 f/2.8 is almost exactly the same price as the Leica 12-60 and I'd say was therefore better value. Buying in a kit reduces the effective price, but for a variable aperture lens, I still reckon that the Leica 12-60 is way too expensive. £550 or thereabouts would be better

[@TheHybridShooter]

@Christopher Martin I disagree. Maximal aperture is just one of many aspects. There is much more that needs to be considered.

[@jeffreybeigie5244]

i bought mine from somebody that got it in a kit but was a prime shooter. Got a great deal on a basically new lens - I love it. Hardly ever leaves my G9.

[@alifmaulr]

where is my "hello my friends" ?!?

[@TheHybridShooter]

I was tired of saying it every time.

[@alifmaulr]

@@TheHybridShooter wkwk, keep spirit!

[@TheHybridShooter]

will do my best to keep it up!

[@my-max-media7621]

Very good comparison. I recently made a video on the Leica 12-60 (which I use mostly) and this lens is not completely parfocal. It loses Focus starting around 18mm down to 12mm. If you pause my video at those focal ranges, take snap shot and zoom in you will see the sharpness is now on the letter B. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqnCpXuJprB1f6M Again, great comparison and I may follow up on same type of comparison with Panny 12-35 mk1, Oly 12-40 and 12-100 If I have time. Happy filming Cheers

[@nore8141]

👍👍👍👏👏👏