Panasonic Multi-Camera Setup for Churches | BGH1 and GH5 II

[@samuelcrane8686]

Thanks Jake, I love that in your band were faithful oldies. Bless you

[@musicxsam1]

ANYONE READING THIS: Ya'll go and enroll yourself in the Churchfront Academy before purchasing cameras or any other gear for that matter. You'll get a good view of the plan that'll work for your ministry before dropping $$$ on these equipments. Informative vid as usual Jake! 👏🏻 One question tho - how does the BGH1 compare to the BM Micro Studio Camera 4K or the BM Micro Cinema Cameras? I am currently running 1 BMPCC4k and plan to add 1 more to the rig.

[@JakeGosselinYoutube]

Never tried the BM micro cameras. But I'd probably stick with all BM if you already have one.

[@benjamin.kelley]

We bought a canon XA40 last April along with a 5D4...used the XA40 a few times and hated it, and our Pastor finally noticed a quality difference, so maybe I can sell him on buying a GH5 now... should have just bought 2 GH5s anyway since we spent like $4000 total...

[@EmeraldAudiovisual]

The GH5-II can be controlled via Lumix Tether for Multicam like the BGH-1, once you add a USB-C to Ethernet adapter. It's the only traditional style camera in Panasonics program, that can be used that way.

[@neilmccarthy6201]

Nice video!! We have 2x Panasonic fz300, and they are amazing for the price (only around 600$! With an atem mini as the switcher you can have a very easy simple cheap set up, but with the fz300 you do need a well lit front. Not every church has $5000 budget, so if you’r wanting cheap Panasonic cameras with clean hdmi outputs for a budget live stream, the fz300 is perfect.

[@nickrutland3268]

Does the atem mini act as a video capture device as well?

[@joemonteithcinematography7477]

Nice! We use the bigger brother, the FZ1000. Very solid camera with a great zoom range (25-400mm ff equivelent). The 1 inch sensor, while not as big as full frame or anything like that, is definitely a step up from any camcorders in the price range!

[@pavlopyshnyy6845]

Hey Jake, love what you are doing here on the channel. The resources you provide here are invaluable for the worship ministry. I recently bought a BGH1 camera too. However, I was struggling with picking a lens. I talked to some photographers in our church that informed me that the best lens are the canon ef range. So my question is how well do the lens mount converters work in your experience? Which would you recommend for a medium to small size church?

[@Churchfront]

Use the app called Cadrage directors viewfinder on your phone and that will simulate different focal lengths. Yeah the EF mounts with the speed booster adapters work great for us.

[@markwerner2978]

Have you done a "budget set up" video lately? We are researching new equipment. It was recommended to go with a PTZ camera. I was thinking about using 2 camera set up. But budget is tight

[@neilmccarthy6201]

Use the Panasonic fz300’s cheap bridge cameras (no need to buy lenses), huge zoom and full hdmi output. But make sure the front of the church is well lit up. The lens sensor is small so not amazing quality in low light. Fz300 cost less than $600 brand new. And the standard atem mini as the switcher ($300), the atem will stream directly for you, so no need for OBS. Should be around $1500 in total to buy new, for 2 cams and the switcher. Of course PTZ cameras are a bit costly, but would be great if you have the budget for it.

[@vdveenpeter]

GoPro hero 8 black are great for fixed cams. And indeed PTZ for all positions.

[@egg6649]

The main problem with PTZ is lighting, if it’s quite bright in your church, go for it. If you have more dynamic areas (bright and dark) I would go for a regular camera, and put the effort in to train someone up on a video tripod.

[@EfremDuran]

Jake, Can you tell me your stream setup? I see the GH 5II has an HDMI out to SDI? Then, SDI into what? What software are you using to switch multi cams? Then you push it out to KZbin? I have a GH5II & interested in using two cam stream setup. Thank you! Efrem

[@joshuajsingh]

What's the name of this church, would like to hear the services and watch the quality

[@chadbennett5364]

Love our gh5's!

[@RobertSababady]

@Jake, @churchfrontI bought a GH5II on your recomendation. Is is brilliant. Can you explain how you provide constant power to the GH5 for the purpose of live streaming. Appreciate it! I think I can see a Thether tools Relay with the battery cover open. Is that right?

[@emmanuelfilmstudios]

You can find it on Amazon or anywhere else. It’s called a “dummy battery” which just connects to a standard wall outlet. Make sure it’s specifically for the camera/battery u are using.

[@RobertSababady]

@@emmanuelfilmstudios thankyou for your response. They solution you refer to is what I described as a Thether tools Relay in my question. I use a USB - c charger with "Power Delivery" which raises the normal USB voltage to the level required by the interna; batter to charge. In this way I have the battery charging, the camera running of the charger and a backup in case the power goes off. I was more interetsed in @Jake's experience using the method you described as it requires that the camera battery is removed during the live streaming.

[@da411d]

[QUESTION] On first seconds of video, behind Jake there is plastic fixator for cables. Can you share link for it, please? 👀

[@michalwalks]

I did get invested invested in the BGH1 and find the tether for multicam software odd in that even though it is for multicam you can only change settings on one camera at a time...

[@arisechurchdeland]

Do you know the best way to work with gh5’s autofocus? Or a resource that can help with the AF constantly focusing in and out ?

[@graceandtruth13]

What would you recommend between Black magic studio pro vs BGH1?

[@nobinobiboyz6931]

What do you use for the battery adapter? I’m using a GH5 for church services and I don’t have anyone running it during service so I need a battery adapter so I don’t run out of battery

[@traceyelmore877]

Curious, what about over heating?

[@LyndonPatrickSmith]

A quick question- why the focal reducers to use EF lenses? It just seems like an extra hassle and expense vs. using some of the excellent native MFT glass out there. Thanks

[@michaelwiles9160]

would the gh5 ii be a good camera for hand held live stream during worship? it seems like a great camera all around but just want a second opinion.

[@SoldOutBTV]

all of our cameras our Panasonic

[@joeperchard]

Hi, I'm the production team leader for my church. We're currently running our livestream with just one Sony 4K camcorder, however, we are looking at hopefully upgrading in the future. As we are only a small (150 seats max) church, I like the idea of using 2 GH5's at the centre-back (one wide, one zoomed) and then another GH5 on the side wall. The other idea was to just use a couple PTZOptics or Birddog PTZ cameras to cover multiple angles, but from what I've seen, they don't have as nice camera quality... This might be an obvious answer but is there a way with the GH5's (or BMPCC) to remotely turn them on and off, instead of having to climb a ladder and physically push the button each Sunday? Thanks!

[@madmanmedia5798]

How is the low light performance and auto focus of the Bgh1 compared to Black Magic Pocket cameras

[@devinbates6529]

Does the software that you were using work for the GH5's as well or just the box cameras?

[@PANAFRAZER]

There is another version of the Tether App for the GH5 but lacks some of the menu control of the Multicam app.

[@VictoriaRodriguez-ey7hu]

what canon lens do you have on your BGH1 in the back of your sanctuary?

[@Churchfront]

70-200 2.8 with a speed booster

[@RylandRussell]

Looking good!

[@larrybothe8246]

I really appreciate your setup for a smaller church. However it appears that you only show the back of the heads of the worshippers. Is that on purpose? If so, how do you engage your livestream worshippers who are seemingly just watching a performance by the band? No disrespect intended, just curious. In my previous worship ministry (I’m now medically retired) we included shots of people participating (singing, praying, and listening etc.) so that those watching the livestream vicariously felt a part of the congregation. We had a much bigger operation to be sure, with numerous volunteers running 4-6 cameras, a video engineer, an audio engineer who mixed just for video, a graphics operator, a technical director (switcher op) and a producer for the day. BTW, all of the team were volunteers. I tried to instill in them that they were as much a part of the worship experience as the speaker/leader or anyone else on the stage.

[@Pachiscruz2]

Have a question… what about the streaming capabilities from the gh5m2? It’s supposed to work through the wifi to your stream program… if you know anything about this would be very helpful

[@SoldOutBTV]

we are using 2 gh3s 1 gh4 and 1 g7

[@matthewwillis7767]

We always have a good amount of noise in our shots - PTZ camera, front lighting at 85%, camera gain at 9 dB, aperture at 1.6. Camera is about 70-80 feet from stage. Any suggestions?

[@Churchfront]

Yeah that's the struggle with small sensors on ptz. Maybe increase your stage lighting even more and see if you can bring the camera gain down.

[@tsajason03]

Link to live stream with this setup? Thanks!

[@Churchfront]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnOwqX6pn5ehapI

[@ilosngolo4930]

Excellent.

[@timtimchaazn]

Hey Jake! I was wondering what would you recommend to connect the HDMI to HDMI from the camera to a black magic atem mini pro? Looking into a lot of wireless hdmi connectors but not sure what is reliable.

[@RobertSababady]

I don't use wireless, but I do use a hdmi extender via fibre. They come in all sorts of lengths and are far more reliable than a wireless setup.

[@egg6649]

What font are you using for lyrics?

[@adamwberanek]

Museo Sans, heaviest weight with some extra horizontal spacing - part of the churches branding

[@loud213]

with 70-200 can you zoom with software??

[@joshuataliaferro]

This is great. Does the back wall behind the band have multiple projectors?

[@blessingismyname5833]

I think it's a led wall

[@Churchfront]

One projector on multiple panels. I’ll make a video about it soon.

[@joshuataliaferro]

Yes! That’s what I thought it would be. Looking forward to that video

[@ugonkwocha]

@@Churchfront really looking forward to this video

[@vdveenpeter]

Great if your church won the lottery, but otherwise impossible.. 🤣

[@redfox4820]

Hi there, does gh5 got hot when the live streaming is about 4 to 6 hours straight? Is it worth if you're church live streaming going 6 hours straight? Does it damage the gh5? Is it built for it? Thank you!

[@Lalo_plays]

I'd say for most people need to invest in lighting. These cameras are nice, but with terrible lighting, the type of camera means nothing.

[@Jamesrwpowell89]

For that sort of money wouldn't you be better off getting something from BlackMagic? If you add the body and lens price, you're talking Ursa / Cinema money.

[@egg6649]

Surely… plus you get the amazing amount of control if you are using a BM switcher

[@josua2517]

DON'T plan on controlling the BGH1 true the NETWORK !!! Only USB. I had to do multiple streams for a client in a location with 6x BGH1 freshly and permanently installed in the venue. The only way to adjust the camera settings was planned to be true the network with the "LUMIX Tether for Multicam" app. It's a nightmare, not reliable at all, software is not ready yet. I'm more a fan of Blackmagics PCC4K paired with an ATEM extreme connected true optical HDMI which will let you do all the settings remotely.

[@PANAFRAZER]

I work for Panasonic and I am curious what version of the tether app you had been using? With revision 1.2, these problems have been addressed and we can control 6 cameras (in-fact we can control 12). Our LUMIX ambassador, PhotoJoseph currently uses 5 in his studio right now. Even with a Mac it is working.

[@josua2517]

@@PANAFRAZER 1.2 just came out in june as far as I know, so we had to work with 1.1 the whole season. Great for them if it's fixed now, I will still wait a few month before using that app for a client in a live environment with no time for trouble shooting again. In my opinion it would have been better to release 1.1 as a non public beta.