Precision Rifle Load Development/ Part 1: New Brass Prep

[@RetrieverTrainingAlone]

Excellent: Clickable outline: 2:00 Visual Inspection of Cases 2:25 Weight Sorting Cases? 4:42 Measurements of Virgin Brass 6:35 Expanding Case Necks 8:25 No Need to Full-Length Body Size 9:30 Bevel/Chamfer Case Mouths 10:15 Prime Cases 11:00 Neck Turning? 13:05 Measuring Neck Runout

[@delta3sigma]

I've never heard of a "holder of a PhD in reloading" ... but now I know it's a reality.

[@vincef5832]

Sam makes some of the best instructional videos out there. Very practical manner of educating reloaders. You would be hard pressed to find better on the internet. Thanks Sam.

[@Sean-oc6kf]

I'm excited about this series. I'm doing load development right now with my 6.5CM Howa 1500. I'd say 50% of my total reloading knowledge has come from you, Sam. I like all the info about getting it to shoot 1/2MOA and be done, but since this is my first rifle, I want to go all the way thru the load development process and find the absolute best load, just for the complete experience.

[@matzarvidsson5975]

Greetings from Sweden, Sam, some have it... then again some don´t... The ability to make things understandable. You´re my Guru when it comes to realoding.

[@dukeman7595]

Are the Swedish chicks still as good looking as they were? Last visited a few years ago, had a great time the people were very friendly.

[@anthonybostock4854]

Sam thanks for showing us new guys what to do right from the beginning of the reloading process with brand new brass and a new rifle etc. I am just trying to get started in to reloading and have searched the web for hours trying to find an expert that will show me the process right from the very beginning with what is needed. very eagerly waiting for your next episode. Thanks.

[@MrNiceKnife]

Just getting into reloading so this should be good thanks for taking the time.

[@bobbygonzon5428]

Thanks, Sam. I appreciate that you are will to teach us your techniques of reloading. I myself will start reloading soon. This is because California has band us from buying ammo on line. Also this will help me get more involved in Precision Shooting. Again thank you. 👍🏽😎

[@gilream]

Wow...California. communist utopia

[@toddb930]

This is going to be a great series! Glad to hear I'm not the only 260 Rem guy remaining. I recently experienced exactly what you were saying about the new Lapua brass starting out with a small neck diameter. I ended up using the neck expander button to open it up. -- Todd

[@user-jg3gr3cf4v]

Mr. Sam. Enjoyed, and found this video help full for beginner. Printed off article on this same subject matter. Can't wait to read it. Thank f or making this information available. Have a great day. Everett

[@FSU1HEMI1]

Thanks for answering a question I had about new brass being . 010 smaller than the chamber starting out , I payed attention the second time I watched. Lol

[@Roberto_14M]

Tahnk you so much for putting these vids together. I for one need this info as I dive into reloading for precision rifle

[@claywynn4507]

At 13:15 you demo the Sinclair tool doing runout checks. Functionally, the important runout is neck ID -to- outside surface of shoulder (or the conical section). The conical section locates the case body radially in the rifle chamber, line-to-line, with the conical section of the chamber, when the bolt is closed, and ejector pin is holding the case body forward in the chamber. PS: Thanks for your efforts in developing a truly professional grade of videos for the aspiring precision rifle shooter, reloading ammo. Your lecture/teaching skills are very good, yet not intimidating.

[@PharaohMoan]

Love the vids man. I’m just getting into PRS and living in a smaller community, videos like this are critical. Thank you.

[@jamessutherland5107]

In addition to what he pointed out regarding prep for weighing cases, after forming, cutting, and deburring, then I uniform primer pockets and primer holes. THEN they're exactly the same xcpt wall thickness only

[@sjohnson1776]

Excellent! I have a brand new (as yet) unfired Bergara B-14 HMR in 6.5 Creedmoor. I've been hand loading since the 70's and always up to learn more. Good info here. Thanks!

[@paulsoutbackgardenaustrali7674]

New sub..Bought my new 260rem...now time 2 work out 1/4 in groups..😁😎🇦🇺

[@josephschuster2798]

Thank you. I'm new at this reloading stuff.

[@perrseb5772]

I just want to say thank you. I start in reloading, and it‘s a whole knowledge in itself, as much as shooting. But but works together. I like the way you validate what has an effetc and what‘s not: why spend time on something that causes no improvement in accuracy and consistency?

[@michaellacy8510]

Lapua brass really is the best I've used. Love it especially in 6.5x55.

[@colb9916]

A great vid mate. thanks. Plain common sense approach to the job. (almost identicle to my own lol ) Lapua brass, loaded through Sinclair tools with quality Berger projectiles in a well chambered quality barrel = results on target without any fussing about.

[@Mr.Potato420]

don't forget after reloading a brass a few times anneal it so it won't split and you can keep reusing it.

[@ddyoder]

Excited to see this new load development series! Just got a new 6.5 CM rifle and want to work up a load around the parameters that you shared in terms of a strong accuracy node and a relatively low ES. Thanks for putting out great content!

[@Warmspringsrezbuck]

Thank you for your help in the E-mail again Sam. Keep the videos and information coming very helpful and knowledgeable. Thanks again from Oregon.

[@williamlange1090]

Thank you! These are the most comprehensive series of reloading videos.

[@slugger3127]

Well done. Good information!

[@jaybigboy34]

Can't wait to watch this whole series! You are great at explaining every step.

[@wlink2]

Really enjoy your videos and the knowledge transfer you provide. Thank you for taking the time to share your expertise.

[@juliusignatius7829]

Excellent advice on weighing cases. Made a note of that. Thanks

[@markus7670]

Im exited aswell! Just ordered a .260 Rem and was just on your homepage looking at your loads, this series gonna be awsome! Thank you i love your videos.

[@deniseturner7629]

Thanks Sam again straight forwards nice and easy to understand looking foreword to the next one. Uk

[@raker1980]

Very helpful. Thank you.

[@shutthegate8232]

Thanks mate. Well pieced together information and shared in a way that just plain makes sense. Cheers.

[@thrivealist9458]

This channel is great!!! Another a+ video definitely going to Binge watch.

[@luvtahandload7948]

Thanks for demonstrating the use of the Sinclair Expander die. I always use one when beginning with new brass, particularly belted mag brass. However, I'm interested in preventing the initial case stretch that always happens with new brass. I neck up one or two sizes, depending on how far apart they are, then FL size down just until the bolt closes with a fair amount of resistance. This, along with proper annealing, will prolong the brass life immensely. I've watched a few of your vids now and you know how to get across the information very well. Will be subscribing in two clicks.

[@260nob9]

Top Stuff and look forwards towards the balance of the series thanks for sharing.

[@1967Twotone]

Excellent. This guy gets it.

[@baugwan1]

The problem I have when I clean the brass, is that there is always some corn cob stuck in the flash hole. How do you deal with that problem? Why don’t you do a video about what happens when you reload a rifle round and tumbling media remains/lodged in the brass. How it effects pressure, accuracy, and how likely it is to blow up the gun. You make awesome videos and I'm most grateful for all the work you do.😮‍💨

[@rout9291]

thanks Sam!! Appreciate the wisdom!

[@ransegandee2374]

Good video thanks for the info

[@jramirez3296]

Great video as always. You keep put out great content. I’m going to start hand loading because you. Can’t wait.

[@johnharvey892]

This series is absolutely awesome. I can't wait till the next video I thought I was the only one anal about handloading. Believe it or not the best brass that I have reloaded for my Remington model 700 7mm magnum... Has been the cheap Monarch brand from Academy Sports. They don't have it anymore sadly but 10 years ago I bought a ton of it just because it was so much cheaper than Winchester or Remington or Hornady. Accuracy was okay but when I started reloading is where I saw the difference. I didn't have to do much trimming or resizing... I just clean the primer pocket And used a hand tool to deburr the neck. And the brass was within dimensions that's in the lyman reloading book. Granted I wasn't doing this for match or precision shooting.... But with a consistent powder charge being within 1 or half a grain difference. I narrowed my group to one inch at a hundred yards and had a consistent velocity averaging 2987 feet per second. 100 yards is sadly the limit where I live. Also back then I was just getting started being serious about shooting.... I was as green as you could be.Lol! I'm just wondering how much throat erosion I caused in that rifle.

[@chriscoomer5818]

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[@bobbygreen2291]

john harvey monarch is also the best ketchup you can buy , and I am not joking, I have never seen that kind of brass and I have reloaded since the sixties, but make no mistake, what ever works in a rifle,, use it , that’s what everyone does, this panhandle guy is a reloading genius, no doubt, his tricks of the trade are the best I’ve seen, as for your old 7 mm Remington magnum no matter how much throat erosion you have , you will always be able to find something to shoot good in it , but I will tell you this , some of my old rifles only shoot good groups with a perfect bullet seating depth , accompanied by a maximum charge of powder , the low powered loads are better grouped by a new barrel , so spend most of your time on the hot end of the powder scale.

[@odinwan]

Excellent. Thank you.

[@DB-yb6jr]

Great info, been loading for about 20 years.

[@randyschaff8939]

I must have got lucky l guess. I brought my M77 home with two boxes of factory loads put a 4x Leupold on it took it outside on a target boresighted shot it in . Game over. Saved the brass necked it load was 180 gr. Hornady 73 gr. IMR 4831. It was shooting 2inches or better . Sometimes better if l really worked at it ha ha. Never took the caps off that scope in 40 yrs ha ha🇨🇦🤠

[@callumhepworth-smith3980]

Great work buddy and thanks for the info.... keep well

[@rkba4923]

I hear ya. My BFF and hunting buddy for over 30 years who actually got me into shooting centerfire rifles does all this stuff and works up loads to get 0.016975034673944 groups, etc. etc. I just buy a couple boxes of the cheapest off the counter commercial ammo I can find for my caliber, shoot it to fireform to the chamber, clean, trim, debur, etc. etc. work up load, like you, til I'm at .5 or .6 MOA at 100 yards and I out-shoot 95% of the guys I run into at the range that have LRP Rifle Platforms. I don't mean to brag but I usu outshoot them with their own rifles too, lol. I then buy some bulk brass and process it (I don't weigh and measure, etc. just clean, FL resize, debut, trim, etc. shoot and, of course, reload the fire formed brass multiple times with my custom load. My buddy buys custom made rifles for $3.000 and I buy a Remington, Winchester, Weatherby rifle off the shelf, bed, float and trigger job and, so far, I've been lucky and have always been able to get them to shoot .75MOA or better. I've never had to replace a factory trigger just tune it up. I'll accept up to 1 MOA on a Big Game Rifle but NOT a Target or Varmint Rifle (I moa on a Prairie Dog at 300+ yards could easily be a miss). But, hey, each to his own.

[@chris_williams_ky]

Always enjoy your videos! Thank you!

[@williebulletman5217]

Thank you for all that great info

[@operator1018]

Love your videos man. I just wish I would of gotten into the sport at a younger age. I love when your boy is in the videos. The think with having an expensive hobby and being young, You CANT Afford it. But now that I’m a bid older an can somewhat afford it, I do it for my 2 Boys. Maybe someday, they’ll shoot as well as you. Thank you for inspiring us. Keep that kid of your sharp, and safe.

[@Impuritan1]

Thank you for doing this.

[@groverhammonds219]

Want to thank you for recommending the savage 12 lrp I love it really love your videos what then over and over again Have learned so much from you love the way you give your reasons for using dies doing certain things looking forward to your new videos thank you so much

[@factdesignbr]

Thats beautiful

[@williamkilpatrick6821]

20fps is kinda large of an extreme spread. With a typical 140gr match bullet around 3000fps it gives you around 5 inches of instant vertical.

[@rudolphferdinand3634]

Thank you, it is done!

[@duckslayer11000]

That was a great video.

[@jeffyoung2089]

AWESOME!

[@TAShannon1]

You've got the same beard as the neighbor from Home Alone that knocked out Marv and Harry with a shovel.

[@shauntucker5145]

would love input on how to properly set up the expander with mandrel

[@pimpg6323]

Nice video! You are correct, no sense expending time, money, energy and frustration on procedures that do not give any or very little net gains. That time, money and energy would be much more valuable if spent by actually SHOOTING and developing ones marksmanship skills with that particular rifle and load. Real world in the field DOPE will IMHO trump spending weeks or months chasing that last tenth of a inch in possible accuracy. The human factor could have been improved by many times that in the same time span just by systematic training in real world scenarios. I know many may not want to concede or admit this is the best way to better overall performance. We as human beings are most of the time the weakest link in a shooting system if the rest of the system is top shelf.

[@ИванКрушинский-щ5ц]

*Very good at least I like it*

[@JacksonMalcolm]

Great video, I don't think sorting brass by weight is worth the time. But for a different reason than you offered. Most the weight variance in a case is in the case head and that has very little to do with case volume. That being said if you have the time and energy to check cases then you're better off checking concentricity

[@timb2294]

Well done! Can’t wait to see the next video. I’m a new reloader and I’ve been trying to come up with a starting charge for a 300 win mag using 215 Bergers. My COAL is 0.300” longer than the SAAMI load info Berger supplied. Not sure how to compensate for the pressure change.

[@PanhandlePrecision]

Add more slow- burning powder. Slowly...:-)

[@mikecarlson6083]

Great videos thx for the info

[@angelzipp]

Great video, sir! You just won an another fan :) Subscribed.

[@chrisglover7080]

Boy i wish i had all the brass that you threw away over the years that you thought was no good. New brass for every barrel come on man shoot that stuff till its no good

[@jasonnester9514]

I can group like that with shelf ammo

[@MrCrayonkid]

Cool Ty

[@dwightlooi]

Something that NEVER made sense to me is how loads can be more or less accurate even when velocity is consistent. Think about it... velocity consistency (ES and SD) is the ONLY thing which should affect accuracy. And, it should only manifest as vertical stringing due to variations in flight time from velocity variations. Yet, we constantly see that loads get more accurate or less accurate as we change the powder charge even even though velocity stays consistent. Sometimes it gets more accurate even while velocity spread increases! It always puzzled me as to why groups will go from 1.1 - 0.9 - 0.5 - 0.3 - 0.4 - 0.8 - 1.2 - 1.0 as I increased the charge. Also, what's most accurate for one rifle may not be what's most accurate for another. And, then it dawned on me... maybe IT IS NOT THE LOAD, it is the RIFLE! Maybe it is simply harmonics when the round is fired. The most accurate load smacks the rifle just hard enough to cause the barrel to vibrate in such a manner that the bullet leaves the barrel while it is at the top or bottom of its oscillation -- hence minimum lateral velocity in some random direction. To test out this hunch, I zip tied a fishing weight to the muzzle. Sure enough, what's most accurate isn't anymore! I then extended the loads to a very wide range from say 45 gr to 51 gr -- way way beyond my target velocity in .2 gr increments. I noticed that you'll tend to get several peaks and valleys in accuracy! It'll be like something like this... 0.9 - 0.8 - 0.6 - 0.4 - 0.5 - 0.7 - 0.9 - 1.0 - 1.1 - 0.8 - 0.7 - 0.5 - 0.6 - 0.9 - 1.2 - 1.1 - 0.9 - 0.8 - 0.7 - 0.9 - 1.2 - 0.7 - 0.6 - 1.0 - 1.1 - 0.8 - 0.5 - 0.7 - 1.0 - 0.8. More importantly this changes when you switch rifles or even barrels. It also changes on a different day when the temperature is significantly different. In the end, I concluded that chasing the very last bit of accuracy CANNOT be done with a particular load even for the same rifle. All I can say for instance is that this is a half to one minute of angle load depending on the conditions for this particular rifle with good ES. And, that is enough.

[@RetrieverTrainingAlone]

That makes sense to me. I like champion bench rest shooter Erik Cortina's approach: low variation in extreme spread, which is a low variation in ignition caused by primer, powder, neck tension, erc. low extreme spread but poor groups....work on the barrel harmonics by vary bullet seating depth: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIeofo2AjtSpg6M

[@robertmaclean5463]

I ran a ladder test with new Lapua brass and 245 berger eol (300NM) and had great success finding a sweet spot however, when I loaded the once fired brass with that same charge weight, I was seeing overpressure signs. After asking around, I was told not to load test rounds in new brass. All the other variables that we could think of were ruled out. If you have any thoughts, it'd be appreciated

[@briancox8602]

Great videos Sam I really like how you are right to the point with the reasons why or why not something matters. Are you a second or third generation reloader, or did you figure all this out on your own? I'm just starting out but really enjoy it and appreciate you sharing your knowledge.

[@Johnyrocket70]

6.5 prc is getting popular

[@Espi68One]

I am just getting into Rifle Loading, I am starting off with .223/5.56 for ARs, I will be loading .308 for a M1A Socom and a Rem 700. I realize this is a old video, but do you recommend full length resize for the M1A verse a neck size. I only ask as I have read that neck resize is OKAY for bolt action, but full length resize is recommended for autoloader. I am looking to work with the 168gr. Also, I might just buy some Bulk bullets to keep the cost down. I don't do any serious target shooting (competition) or any hunting, so they can be good enough out to 300 to 400 on steel. Just want to start loading rifle to save some $$. Any info would be appreciated.

[@dageide6008]

Hi Sam. Started loading 6,5x55, and after a lot of Your videos about brass handling: - Why press the brass back to a fabrik size when it after a shot is formed exactly to the chamber in my Sauer 202? When resicing it/pressing it smaller I am stressing the brass, when shot it is stressed back to the chamber size, so again resize it back to a standard and again shot/expand it again, and again, and again. Why not just skip the recising and keep it the dimesjons the chamber makes it, as long as it goes smoth in and out? Dag from Norway

[@jerrysmith9935]

Your videos are awesome in detail precise and easy to relate to. Got 308 and thought about the lopua brass offers a small or large primer case what's the difference between the two.

[@rickm4295]

So i reckon people do a lot of work , such as turning necks , to rule out any questions they may have. If you know you turned your necks , you know you trimmed and weighed everything , now you know its some other reason you are not where you want to be. You can get way down the rabbit hole im guessing

[@PanhandlePrecision]

Yes. I went the other way. I took an exceptionally accurate barrel and started eliminating steps, until I found a process that’s easy and repeatable.

[@rickm4295]

@@PanhandlePrecision Thats definitely the best way to remove the most doubt , hehe. Its not the gun for sure !!

[@stevenl7878]

I know that you measured several dimensions on the Lapula brass. Are they all within the case's overall length specs or did you have to trim them to length?

[@PanhandlePrecision]

I checked a few pieces of new brass. They didn't need to be trimmed, so I didn't. I've trimmed them after every firing, though.

[@garyedwards278]

Have you tried Nosler brass? Love your videos.

[@bznbrian]

Love this video. I have a hard time building loads off brass that hasn't yet been fire formed to the chamber of the specific rifle. It seems wasteful, but I'll take new lapua brass and a moderate load with the cheapest bullet possible and just fire form them so I have a baseline. Either that, or use some factory Nosler ammo and start my loads with fired brass. Am I crazy?

[@francorui2493]

Top top class, when is part 2 coming up, Regards Franco Danmark Europe

[@PanhandlePrecision]

Franco Rui It went live last night. Be sure to subscribe to the channel. Thanks!

[@372HGS]

How many fires before your shoulders have moved enough to bump them? The way I am understanding your process, you expand your necks up to get 0.001 tension since Lapua is so undersized. Also it’s about 0.0155” wall thickness. Do you neck size before trimming and chamfering? Bushing die, neck only, (not full since we want the shoulder to get where we can bump them all the same). Once trimmed, if you neck turned would this be the time or wait until the shoulder has maxed out before neck turning? Thank you for your feedback.

[@patruddiman4228]

I watch your videos all the time they are awesome. I live in a small town and availability of ammunition is limited let alone buying components. I recently bought some hornady ammunition to get once fired brass for my 300 Winchester mag. After sizing they were 4 thousands short of minimum trim length according to my hornady reload manual. Should I toss the all?

[@Ryan22128]

Just sub'ed ... .love the videos.... question... what do you use to film your long distance shots?

[@PanhandlePrecision]

The latest version of the camera I use is the Panasonic HC-V180.

[@vettepilot427]

Sam, thanks so much for this video. Very helpful. I notice quite a lot of bullets on that top shelf. How many do you usually like to keep per caliber and bullet. I just attended a long range class and needed about 260 rounds.

[@ChrisAdams-c1s]

Do you get the measurements for all 100 rounds within the box (and take the average), or do you take a set amount and get an average? Thanks

[@stevemiller7584]

Great video! I’ve learned SO much from your videos. I have a .308 precision rifle that I learned to reload for long range on and am about to build a precision 300 win mag for hunting. I have never loaded for .300 win mag. What do you think would be some fundamental steps that I will need to include that would be different from .308. I am a reliability new hand loader. I am using Lapua brass and Berger VLD. Thanks so much!

[@patrickhoolihan8824]

Instead of running them over an expander mandrel or FL die, would running them through a Lee Collet die expand the necks? I've been told by Lee that the Collet die only gives 0.001 neck tension. Same way to skin a cat or should I just buy an expanding die? Thanks Sam

[@ZachariahYoung]

Are you able to use the same brass throughout the life of the barrel? Example, if average life of the barrel for that caliber is 3,000 rounds and you're able to reload your 300 new brass 10 times, then you should never have to buy new brass for that barrel, right?

[@PanhandlePrecision]

Yes, that's correct. With minimal FL sizing and annealing, the only weak link is in the primer pocket. Lapua case heads are tough, and I won't be running high pressure anyway. I don't see a problem with the barrel outlasting 300 cases.

[@josecanisales3491]

Why don't you "TRIM" brass AFTER resizing them?

[@RetrieverTrainingAlone]

In this video, its virgin Lapua brass with consistent case length, no need to trim the cases.

[@Forumrida38621]

Question sam so I've been loading some 223 handloads with brand new lapua brass.. using redding dies and I recently had 100 handloads that wouldn't chamber at all so I broke the rounds down resized the cases in the full length redding sizing die and then they were fine clambering wise.. any clue what would cause this

[@richardbrooks4961]

Ever have problems with the mag primers not firing in lapua brass?

[@nikkifiz9822]

Any chance you did a video on the gun build?

[@immanuelbaptistchurch6774]

Hey Sam, great video. I'm starting a new project with both 6.5CM and a .223 and decided on new Starline brass to start with. I noticed you said your new Lapua doesn't require sizing, other than expanding the neck, but have you ever run into any problems with other new brass like Starline or anything else needing to be resized prior to loading? Love the channel. I've learned tons.

[@PanhandlePrecision]

No, I haven't. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen, though!

[@howardschwartz1462]

I am a little confused, because on a different KZbin video, you said that neck turning absolutely is important and should be done.

[@PanhandlePrecision]

I’ve never said that. I tried it. I think it’s a total waste of time, unless you absolutely have to use a specific thickness of brass in a particular chamber. I’ll buy a reamer with a large enough neck clearance before I’ll turn another piece of brass.

[@howardschwartz1462]

the you tube video for the rcbs neck turning tool was 3/1/17

[@howardschwartz1462]

sorry, if i'm confused. but you said on the 3/1/17 video that the short answer was neck turning improved accuracy. being a newbie i can sometimes misinterpret recommendations. thanks for your time.

[@howardschwartz1462]

your comments were on the rcbs neck turning tool which i purchased.

[@PanhandlePrecision]

@@howardschwartz1462 Now you have me curious, because I didn’t publish a reloading video on that date. I’ve never even seen the RCBS tool. I’ve used a Forster lathe turner, and a handheld setup. Bottom line; I don’t recommend neck turning for accuracy. I do recommend running .005-.006” clearance in the chamber for the neck.

[@larrycarnes7375]

im confussed on the (bumping the shoulder issue) do you have a video on this ? plus im trying to put together a load for a 6 mm CM using hornadys 108 ELD M. also what expander ball would you recommend

[@dirkdiggler4843]

Can you enter a prs match with only a 3rd magazine?

[@andrewyork3869]

Curiosity has always got the better of me on this, how often do precision shooters train? If so how? I can't see many if any blasting 1000 or even 100 rounds of something like 300 win mag or 7mm rem mag a day 365 days a year. (Hell could training that hard even be counter productive?)

[@PanhandlePrecision]

Andrew York I average around 500 a year through my bigger stuff, but the barrel in this video was pulled two weeks ago at 2086 rounds. Yeah, I would think that running 10-round strings with a 300WM day in, day out would get old. With a 260, it’s fun!

[@andrewyork3869]

Panhandle Precision thanks for the reply, that is very insightful. Do you practice wind calling with a separate rifle, say with a 22lr/223 or something along those lines?

[@TheJohndeere466]

I am very new to reloading. I have only loaded about 700 9mm cases. I recently bought a 30-06 rifle and I am just getting things together to reload these rifle cases. I have a single stage press for the rifle cases. I bought some Lyman 30-06 full length dies. I have not received my 30-06 shell holder yet so I cant resize the cases yet. I bought some used 30-06 cases at a gun show but when I try these cases in my gun, the bolt will not even begin to close. Either this brass is too long or the neck is too large for my gun. Hopefully resizing will allow these to fit in my gun or maybe they were just fired in a gun with much longer head space and will never work in my gun. With a case that was fired in my gun, the bolt close just fine. Whats your thoughts on this.

[@burgundypoint]

What is your experience with Starline brass?

[@vrich3733]

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