Panobridge: 1 Year Later

[@noisefighters]

Appreciate the long-term review and detailed thoughts. I hope the next generation Panobridge exceeds your expectations for design improvements, especially related to monocular positioning. I have indeed been using the profits from this first generation product to help deliver new products that better match our customer’s feedback. By the way, for anyone concerned about durability, we are keeping a log of damaged units right on our website’s FAQ page, and so far only one has been reported: a guy face planted onto concrete and snapped an arm. We’ve had zero reports of damaged AX14-PROs, which use the same material. The Arkema material and overengineered design seems to be doing a good job so far. I look forward to sending you the next generation Panobridge soon. -Neal, owner

[@johnston511]

I have about as much time with the pano as bf, great product. with a couple dabs of loctite, itll guide the future of night vision

[@ChevTecGroup]

Hey Neal! Just got some of your gel cups installed in my peltors. Keep up the good work!

[@BrassFacts]

yep, I have no concerns about 3D printed durability. I did a lot of research with plastics (and as a result 3D printing) for my degree. People underestimate polymers and composite polymers by easily a order of mag. I'm eagerly await the next gen. Like I said in the video. I generally don't get impressed by gear. But this vastly exceeded my expectations especially for what is functionally a gen 1.5

[@AlphaOneDesigns]

Any word on pano housing.

[@peterau1720]

need an update on the pano housing

[@TeletubbiesRcute]

Still waiting for that BRASS FACTS patch where _._.A.S.S and F.A._.T._ are IR reflective

[@BrassFacts]

we'll see how these do.

[@BlueLoneWolf54]

You're gonna have a bad time

[@GBGuns]

I haven't played with Nods since the PVS-7B days, but your description of the learning process, challenges, etc was spot-on. Great job as always.

[@armon8399]

I have had mine for about 6 months. Game changer. I love it.. Im saving up for RPNVGs

[@coledaughhetee3111]

The timing is perfection, just watched the first panobridge vid yesterday

[@xXsniperXxDF1]

Can't wait for the new version of the Panobridge! Love my current one!

[@chad59]

I have used mine for a little over a year now and love it really makes the experience better as you described in the video. Retightening them is a must but not a problem for the huge field of view improvement it provides. Great breakdown Cheers.

[@xXsniperXxDF1]

Also the Tanto RPO Panobridge is one of the lightest units available today apparently! No longer limited to just pvs14s! :D

[@wildcat8598]

FOV is one thing I feel like my poor ness has helped me out on by only being able to get a monocular PVS14 and having that naked eye, even with it in the dark I feel like I can use that eye to get a peripheral view/layout of the general lay of the land. Couple that with IR and white light on your rifle and it covers most scenarios. I would still like to get duals on me day but for right now being a novice with NV I’m very happy with what I have.

[@50shadesofcerakote]

Commenting for the algorithm. Neal is such an awesome dude. He really is changing the game. And I hope he gets the recognition for it.

[@schizosaint777]

Thanks for the reliably good content man, great stuff. One day I’ll take out a second mortgage and get NV (I have to get my first mortgage first)

[@BrassFacts]

haha yeah, night vision is a bitch. The starts lined up for me the first time, and haven't really since.

[@Mrgunsngear]

Thanks

[@BrassFacts]

good info us :D

[@johndavidtackett]

Great review! I picked up the Panobridge mk2 a couple months ago from tnvc, love them so far, running a PVS14 for my right eye and the flir breach for my left and attached via a Wilcox g24. Agree on the position sensitivity too, overall I like the flexibility it provides and am glad I’ve got them as an option. Def agree it’s $$$ but also agree why it makes sense for them currently. Tks for the review!

[@keeptexasfree7361]

I actually lol’d at the video of the tactical flamingos. Good one brother.

[@andersonbuchanan4503]

So I got a panobridge fairly soon after they came out and happened to find two matched 14's for a great price a piece with warranty. I love the set up and it allows me to split the devices when I want to look at the stars with my son's or shoot with my friends. For most though I would never say that the added field of view is worth the weight of two devices and the hassle of working two devices compared to a single duel set up but for a bridge the pano can't be beat in my mind. Lite, articulating, and panning? It could only be better as a bridge if it was powered, then it would literally do it all lol

[@aries144]

"...their brain just makes the Windows error noise..." HAHA! I laughed for a 2 minutes straight. Thanks for the laugh.

[@BrassFacts]

I make the windows error noise more often than not.

[@VictorGarciaR]

About the plastic-on-plastic wearing out, some plastics are really tough. Plus I guess they could add a small redesign to include metal parts in the interface, but that will be a pain in the ass. I did it for fun with my 3d printer, pause the print to add a nut and a magnet into holes that I left for them, then continue printing and they get buried in plastic. But I guess doing it in an asembly line is another game completely

[@50shadesofcerakote]

On the redesign of the ax-14 pro that’s what they ended up doing. There’s a metal washer and the articulation points were redesigned some. The gen1 was good, just needed alittle loctite. Gen2 is so much better. Just witness mark all the things, always, and you’ll be golden.

[@knewsome69]

I was just telling my wife about your channel and how I look for the dog in every one…and BAM, here at the end!

[@BrassFacts]

whew!

[@wyattedgecomb6297]

I love watching ass facts on my lunch break ❤

[@jonsingleton203]

Ive been run 2 pvs14s on a knock off MK3 and deicided to buy the real one they just made the M1 got it coming fro. Darq industries and got two push button battery packs to cut weight taking the drive to steel industries tomorrow to have them installed and tubes colimunated since its there for service even though it hasnt bothered me . Can wait to play with the new lighter metal locking set up

[@ArcanusLibero]

Thanks for the update.

[@1MileAtaTime]

First we get night vision Nova and then free range Nova! Good work

[@perpetualconfusion5885]

I actually love these so much. I use the FMA clone

[@egglisboingo335]

What targets/stands do you use? They look sturdy and portable, and like they can actually support decently sized steel on a slight slope unlike the 2x4 stands I'm rocking

[@zachleitinger]

Great video!

[@smithjeffrey1985]

I absolutely love every one of your videos I check for new videos everyday from you. I love your videos on philosophy of what is coming your videos on Urban Assault packs and gear just the way that your mind thinks of things I just love. Keep up the good work if you're ever up in Logan feel free to reach out there's a few of us up here that would love to take you to dinner and not in a gay way

[@BrassFacts]

thanks! Appreciate it

[@yzhou05]

Now will be fight between RPNVG vs DTNVS, both + COTI, vs vs PVS14 + thermal monocular. Who am I kidding, already have the 14+MH25, not going to be spending the dough on binos anytime soon lol. Gonna focus on training for the next 10 years, then see where the tech is 😮

[@jonwebsterabbott]

"Come for the review, Stay for the Doggo!"

[@BrassFacts]

(come for the dog, stay for the dog) :D

[@parkeraston653]

Is the pano bridge just the mount or is it a package with night vision included? If it’s just a mount for $500 that is very depressing

[@walker6296]

It's just the mount, and $500 is the sale price.

[@michaelnyden8056]

Need to come out with thumbscrews, my biggest issue is as the monoculars swivel they inevitably loosen a very inconvenient flathead screw that also strips out easily. The fixed 55 degree bar really make the experience optimal, adjustable fov is overrated and just makes the experience less solid and more fiddly, 55 FOV is ideal.

[@Osprey1994]

he knows we love the doggo 😊

[@BrassFacts]

the dog is basically the channel.

[@Osprey1994]

​@@BrassFacts Nova is love Nova is life. Jokes aside, lost my pup recently. She was with me for half my life, I am always happy to see how much time you spend with Nova.

[@The_trees_have_ears]

What would be better: NVG with wide FOV fish eye lenses but near 0 depth perception or narrow FOV lenses with high definition and depth perception?

[@BrassFacts]

I don't like distortion. That's a bad time.

[@ethanbarnes3973]

I like sticking the propper size alan keys for my noisefighter mount velcroed under the flag on my helmet. Has helped keep em tight a few times.

[@BrassFacts]

smart. I might do that.

[@Angrypolack]

Thx for the great info. Did I hear that right at the end of the video? Did you say you prefer the Pano setup with the wider FOV to dedicated bino’s?

[@BrassFacts]

correct.

[@Angrypolack]

@@BrassFacts Thx for the answer. I have 3 little maniacs I need to feed, so bino's may not be in the budget. I feel better about going to the PVS mono with the option to upgrade to two down the line thx to your vid. Appreciate the info and glad I subbed.

[@Fede_uyz]

to be honest I can't understand how no one thought of this before.

[@Zoraxon]

Gonna stepping stone of monocular to some sort of binocular pano and hand the monocular to the Mrs. After getting more time under the hazy blue

[@UNX-ORD]

What track is that in the background? Really mellow and relaxing.

[@dumamilk]

please review the MK3s

[@BlackHawk295]

I think this is the quickest I've ever ordered patches on the internet lol Having the opportunity to play with PVS 14's and 15's while I was in the military I've been really curious how these stack up to normal fixed duals. When I'm finally able to justify buying NOD's I think this might be what I go for

[@joeh9503]

Thanks for the dog footage. This is my sacrifice to the algorithm gods.

[@elmerwrinkle1]

At min 2:00 how much money in gear do you have on my estimate is about is about 15 g's

[@BrassFacts]

not that much, probably under 10g.

[@redgroyp]

What do you think, conceptually, about the AB nightvision RPNVG housing? Pano definitively worth it over articulating?

[@BrassFacts]

I haven't messed with the RPNVG so I can't say.

[@mrgrump2534]

Articulation is not really that important

[@Bender_B._Rodriguez]

so when walking it's like when you think there's an extra step down when there's not? when we getting that review of your Roland special?

[@BrassFacts]

it can be yeah. No idea. maybe when I review a stacco, whenever (if) that day comes.

[@CNoah-zc5ho]

Great review! What is the best form to reach out? I had a few questions you might be able to answer

[@BrassFacts]

instagram or discord

[@CNoah-zc5ho]

What’s your discord

[@BrassFacts]

@@CNoah-zc5ho discord.gg/YZqHwBCW

[@trailertrashtactics]

This setup > dedicated duals Nocturn industries pvs 14's bridged fix that weight issue youre talking about. Runs about 18-19 oz

[@kennethslack2562]

Would you prefer the dual pvs-14 with pano bridge over dedicated dual tubes such as pvs-31s?

[@BrassFacts]

yes, but then I also prefer a dedicated dual tube that has increased fov.

[@turdferguson2863]

Noisefighters deliver, get their gel cups while you're at it

[@mcondon23]

Nice info

[@wiley5oh51]

Have you ever run something like the pano ridge with a pvs14 on one eye and a thermal on the other? I picked up an IRAY RH25 and want to run a hybrid NVG/Thermal setup

[@BrassFacts]

one day when I have the cash

[@thesuit4820]

When you say you'll never go back to locked 40deg systems, is that just for bino, or are you also going to give up on / cut back on monocular?

[@BrassFacts]

sometimes I'll do monos for weight. but if I want to maximize capability; I want max FOV.

[@Rimmed7.62]

Not enough credit is given to Nova for inventing the pano bridge concept naturally with her eye balls.

[@Vegas7.62]

I always wondered, what music do you use in the background?

[@snakebite210]

Brass Facts Friday

[@CoastalSet]

Gotta love the tactical cockeye

[@thefifthbelfry92]

I have many many hours under a PVS-14, marines are getting issued dual tube PVS-31 now so maybe in a decade we can get those as cheap as a 14 😂 when they have halo spartan armor or Something

[@IronDavid25]

Would you still run this over something like the BNVD 1431 Mk 2 or the new A-RNVG?

[@mrgrump2534]

Absolutely

[@sonickiller360]

New mic?

[@BrassFacts]

no the settings got fucked. I hate it.

[@sonickiller360]

@@BrassFacts oof.

[@ChrisPBacon-my7yt]

My brothers in night vision. Do you have the nite cap? Is it worth it?

[@BrassFacts]

I have a video on it. Check it out. Basically yes, but also no.

[@quiettime6871]

"Basically yes, but also no": pretty much everything in the night vision world

[@BobBob-il2ku]

How do you think the $15 chinese version would be wobbly?

[@itk9199]

you forgot the link to your store

[@BrassFacts]

video isn't live yet. Saving it for the release.

[@itk9199]

@@BrassFacts ah ok

[@shaneciccarelli-palmer2962]

I just purchase DTNVS (ACT in black) with Gen 3 Elbit XLSH white phosphor, I plan on mounting it a helmet with a A3S shroud, do you have any mount recommendations?

[@DavidK2007]

someday!

[@rynewho_dock1262]

Bought one of these but wasn't impressed with the build quality at the price point, so I returned it. Over $500 for what is essentially plastic (arkema polymer) didn't instill a sense of long lasting ruggedness.

[@BrassFacts]

you're not wrong. I look forward to the next iteration that isn't just a tech demo

[@Bender_B._Rodriguez]

500$? f that

[@Georgeshawwaiancousin]

The polymer itself is probably really expensive, from the looks of it easily $150 a kilo, and with the way those are printed, the machine is about the same price as a used cnc mill, and they aren't cheap to run since most use proprietary software and require a lot of finishing work as well. The polymer is a carbon fiber filled nylon, so really durable. While i don't know all to terrible much about night vision, i know a bit about 3d printing, and the only thing the could have done better was to add some brass inserts at the hinges, and any issues with moving and wear on the plastic would have been solved.

[@awsomedude9111]

One thing that has swayed me from buying is with thermals or night vision they have electronics that possibly could become fried from EMP/Solar flare. I would love to see if you or anyone would be willing to test this.

[@danielh5397]

No one is going to test this.

[@miniapplesun]

Store them in a faraday bag.

[@marcusborderlands6177]

Look at white papers of emp and solar flare testing on electronics. It's a non issue

[@jamesmanning8795]

Doge. I'm a very long way away from getting into NV. Not really a big need and I still have a little debt to get rid of first. Stocking up food seems more important to me right now.

[@BrassFacts]

makes sense. Take your time, prioritize. And have a good plan of what level you want to commit to. NV is stupid expensive.

[@mrgrump2534]

Nothing wrong with that logic

[@Bingbong929]

Hey Brass Facts do you still have a discord?

[@BrassFacts]

yep, we don't publish the link, it's getting a bit chaotic.

[@Bingbong929]

@@BrassFacts Damn, was hoping I can join it. You and hop have great communities. Keep up the good work!

[@BrassFacts]

@@Bingbong929 discord.gg/YZqHwBCW

[@trojan115gw8]

How does the piggyback RMR on the ACOG do under passive?

[@BrassFacts]

It's a case of "yeah it's okay" not amazing, but okay.

[@motorboat3478]

march link please

[@gunterstraus606]

Where's my 3D printed RPNVG?

[@MyLonewolf25]

I feel like a better setup is using this in conjunction with something like a flir breach for NV and thermal

[@RoJSimpson]

Has been reported to cause lots of problems but work very well for other people

[@ChevTecGroup]

You mean just with a regular bridge? Why would you use a pano for that?

[@noisefighters]

Fusion setups on Panobridge is a really interesting experience. I find it better than on a non-panning bridge. You can pan the thermal out and not have it directly overlay the entire view, which allows your brain to see a complete i2 NV view in one eye and a slightly separate thermal view in one eye, so any false negatives provided by the thermal are not inaccurately overlaid atop the i2 NV image, which is normally quite distracting or possibly dangerous (if in a dynamic environment). The panning opens up possibilities, let’s say, that normally aren’t there for people to experiment with.

[@Hoplopfheil]

I don't know if my eyes can do this or not.

[@BrassFacts]

spend more time with nova.

[@D.M.Luiz.]

what's the best helmet for running NV?

[@BrassFacts]

a quality bump or ballistic. Weight and the suspension system will be your main hang-ups/features to look out for.

[@D.M.Luiz.]

@@BrassFacts bump is probably a good place to start, ballistic is probably to much for a poor like me. On a side note ever try any thermal stuff? Getting into hunting and could use some recommendations

[@BrassFacts]

@@D.M.Luiz. I've tried thermals. but the issue is I can't afford to review/ talk about them because the cost to entry is brutal.

[@kerbalairforce8802]

I noticed tungsten AR buffer weights on Amazon that I'm planning on strapping to the back of my head.

[@scatter3244]

So, this coming merch, what can we expect? I wrote this before the video started my B

[@compted10]

Sadly my brain makes the windows error noise... 40k here we go.

[@beeefstick]

Dog camo is really good at night

[@judesheckelberg5135]

Just give me the F-35 helmet with NV already.

[@BrassFacts]

only 500,000 dollars per! basically a bargin

[@judesheckelberg5135]

@@BrassFacts I wonder how long I'll have to wait for prices to come down...

[@jedi7489]

Sick

[@ronin58]

But i got me a doggy ..... thanks for sharing and all the info!

[@pyeitme508]

Wow

[@fixedG]

I'm with you that this seems to be a herald of the future of dual tube NVGs but not the end-state. Because it seems to occupy a weird sort of middle-ground above dual-tube in function but short of quad-tube in both function and price, yet has weight disadvantages compared to purpose-built dual-tube and can be retrofitted to current users of single-tube PVS-14s, I'm not sure who the institutional buyer for the Panobridge is, and institutional buyers still seem by far the biggest swinging dicks in the NVG industry that drive where the industry goes. It seems good for experienced private users who might get into night vision in a piecewise way, getting one PVS-14, then the Panobridge, then another PVS-14. That piecewise cost advantage could go away if you weren't using an IR laser for some reason and have to get into one because of that blind-spot but that's probably a practically nonexistent edge case. I just hope that private market is healthy enough for this sort of form factor to succeed and get development because that hinge design looks like a point of failure waiting to happen to me.

[@noisefighters]

Appreciate the feedback. I can say there is significant institutional buy in already, which honestly is still shocking to me, considering this is our first foray into the NV market. Local, state, and federal LE have purchased significant numbers of bridges. One of primary drivers of this phenomenon is our partnership with a company called Nightline, out of Tennessee, who build complete NV systems and have been in the industry for 40+ years only selling to government buyers. They have a training facility with a shoot house where they let teams show up and run drills with all of the current binos / quads. I have personally visited and met some of the high speed guys who went in the shoot house, tested everything out, and then advised their departments to purchase our Panobridge. Of course, a huge benefit is that so many of these teams have PVS-14s in inventory and wish that they could have dedicated dual tube setups for everyone, but they don’t have the funds. Once they realize they can get a dual tube setup that also provides a wider field of view, they’re sold. The fact that the complete setup weighs 20-25 oz (depending on glass and battery housing) is not a problem when one compares it to the binocular most likely to be available to these same teams: the AN/PVS-15, which weighs 23 oz.

[@fixedG]

@@noisefighters That's great! I wish you much success and I hope to contribute in my own very small way towards it!

[@slappomatthew]

what flash hider are you using?

[@BrassFacts]

most likely a deadairflash hider

[@UnexpectedInquisition]

Nice Ranger ;)

[@Hoplopfheil]

Thanks

[@UnexpectedInquisition]

@@Hoplopfheil #TAFFR

[@future_phonk]

Has anyone made a metal panobridge?

[@Haikeoutdoor]

We have a binocular bridge dovetail helmet bracket, made of all-metal aluminum alloy

[@BlackDogOriginal]

Anyone know the Seals that blew up nord stream?

[@BrassFacts]

it was nova. She was wearing a seal suit

[@NormieWeimarican]

I kick down doors wearing night vision and then have to fix my jambs and replace doors. My wife is pissed.

[@davidchambers6654]

Tactical flamingo 🤣

[@gfdemt917]

I’ve heard that the upgraded mk2 version fixes the friction issues

[@BrassFacts]

this is the mk2.

[@gfdemt917]

@@BrassFacts gotcha thanks

[@gfdemt917]

@@BrassFacts been told noisefighters is upgrading parts for customers the new parts have aluminum inserts

[@turdferguson2863]

I rode my mountain bike with my panobridge. I died. *But I survived*

[@BrassFacts]

facts

[@HanzHermannHoppe]

There's knockoffs on aliexpress that are arguably stronger than the original due to the use of injection molded ABS and cost literally 1/10th the price

[@BrassFacts]

I tried that one for fun. The 30 dollar one? yeah it sucks. This thing needs pretty fine tolerance other wise the whole setups binds. Not that Injection modeling can't be precise, but these weren't.

[@Spanishproject123100]

I think the thing that bothers me about them is how you can never get any true sense of the tubes being properly aligned. I don't see how increasing field of view at the cost of diplopia is worth it. GPNVGs make sense because the front two tubes are properly collimated, and you're just adding extra tubes. Just my two cents.

[@BrassFacts]

I don't get double vision. I'm not sure anyone does. But maybe that's part of the group that just can't use these

[@jeremy8715]

No. 10:28

[@ShaDOWDoG667]

No a PVS-14 single tube is better. At that price point you might as well buy PVS-31

[@raimondrestbergs]

Let me be the "Dog Footage Like Button"

[@raimondrestbergs]

Tho, I will say a bit of criticism.... if you're doing a video on NVG stuff, the dog footage should be in NVG. Just saying ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@0nfir34h1m]

~5:40 the term youre looking for is institutional inertia

[@BrassFacts]

thanks!

[@AdamHaduck]

any dudes is south NV wanna train?

[@HenrikSherwood]

In an ideal world, RPNVGs would be the same price as chinese BNVDs

[@motorboat3478]

yesyewyyopooooooooo

[@BrassFacts]

asdfsaawroyooo

[@ajthetruth3023]

Weeee

[@althill7407]

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