PAP Tinox Moster 185 MY19 20 Hour Review

[@MarkHuneycutt]

Time Stamps 0:00 Reserve Giveaway 0:41 Start of Review 1:30 PAP Assembly 3:58 Trike Launch 4:16 Prop Covers 4:32 Harness 4:52 Antitorque Strap 6:10 Airbag 6:31 Cell Phone Pocket 7:47 Sexy Wink 8:35 Cruise Control/Throttle 9:51 Thumbs up Everybody! 9:52 Swing Arms/Torque Compensation 12:10 Pull Start Ease 12:25 Harness Entry Takeoff and Landing 12:55 Easy to Fix? 13:18 Frame Materials/Strength 14:08 Tandem/Mile High Club 14:29 Reduction Gearing 14:35 Noisiness 14:47 Fuel Efficiency 15:12 Exhaust Precautions 15:42 Silly Question 16:02 Vibration 16:26 Motor Mounting Choices 16:52 Netting Gap 18:18 Safety Features 19:22 Air Box Security 20:54 Comfort for Longer Flights 21:29 Blow Up Doll - Does it come with one? 21:34 Weight 22:33 Todd's Horrible Math 23:19 Price? / Customer Service 24:22 Starting Motor 26:38 Disassembly Time

[@Efntodd]

Mark Huneycutt yea, horrible math on Todd was right... I'm dislexic as Hell. I did the math 165-200 and instead of saying 35 I switched the numbers and said 53🤦‍♂️

[@poodiepie9883]

Hey dude so I found a used paramotor on Craigslist was wondering if you’d give me your thoughts on it. greensboro.craigslist.org/avo/d/greensboro-snap-100-paramotor/7003006938.html

[@poodiepie9883]

I’m like 6’4 230 pounds too don’t know if that would make a difference or not

[@MarkHuneycutt]

@@poodiepie9883 Difference with what?

[@poodiepie9883]

Mark Huneycutt I’m trying to find a paramotor I sent you a link to one just to see if you new anything about it, if you think it could be a good starter set. Figured I’d probably need one before I tried taking the classes

[@SandiNPaul]

Awesome review Mark! So glad you've got a motor to fly over there! Oh, that strap on the prop cover is to anchor you prop so as you've driving down the road, the prop won't spin... 😉. Awesome job!

[@scarroll451]

YES. Thank you Mark. This model is top on my list. Looking to buy in the spring.

[@MarkHuneycutt]

glad I could help!

[@joffephoto]

Always good to see how someone else does their PAP. I noticed you threw your throttle in the seat on pickup. I store my throttle in the front pocket and strap it in. fits nicely, keeps it safe and secure.

[@revbill1957]

the straps on the prop covers are for securing the prop to the cage so that when you are transporting the paramotor, the prop does not turn. Good review.

[@lvsqcsl]

Good review, Mark. On that netting, if one of those quadrants becomes damaged, they can be replaced individually. Lorran always told me to adjust those leg straps so you can slip 3 fingers between your legs and the straps. I didn't know what that hole was under the seat, but, I can tell you it does WORK and don't ask me how I know that! I did damage the prop and Shannon sent me a new one and gave me the name of a guy in Florida that repairs them. I trained on a Nitro 200 and I think the P.AP does have more thrust, it doesn't have that spikey throttle the Nitro has. (Either too much or not enough and as you pointed out it is now in your dominant hand. I like that.) I haven't touched those swing arms at all. I didn't know it was 63 lbs. The guy I fly with has a 280 Tornado and it is noticeably lighter. Great video!

[@MarkHuneycutt]

I like the ability to replace the netting in quadrants. Hopefully I never have to. The Moster very noticeably has more power than the Nitro 200 for sure. I actually liked having the throttle in my non dominant hand but I'm getting used to it in my dominant hand. As for weight, it was 63 pounds with whatever fuel I had in there so dry we were thinking maybe 58 pounds - on my flight last night I burnt all the gas out so I may reweigh it dry.

[@lvsqcsl]

Those points you mentioned is what sold it for me. I am not the strongest person in the world and I have no trouble launching with a 28 meter Spyder. I knew it was heavier that the Nitro, however, I don't notice it. You might have had 1.5 liters of fuel; I think 3.785 liters is a gallon. It is very smooth on the power application, not spikey like the Air Conception. Great video!

[@PPGExplorer]

I own the same exact unit and absolutely love it. I do have one issue to point out though. That kill switch, while it is very accessible and easy to use, it is very sensitive and can get you into trouble if you bump it by accident. I did just that at low altitude when I bumped it on my riser. It killed my motor and I didn't have enough altitude to restart. Was a super sketchy landing through a sabal palm to land on my feet. I ended up putting a small rubber boot over the button with a zip tie to make it bump tolerant and its much better. Watch yourself with that button. If you care to see me make this mistake and pay for it, watch my video about it posted 5 months ago on my channel, is titled - Engine Out | Emergency Landing | Paramotor Flights 19 and 20

[@MarkHuneycutt]

I've definitely bumped it in flight and been like "whoops that was close" 😆. Definitely has its pros and cons but I like it. I'll check the video. Thanks

[@PPGExplorer]

Mark Huneycutt let me know what you think of my landing... not bad for a guy in his 19th flight ever!!

[@patrickfain9318]

That paramotor has a lot of nice features! I like it a lot

[@MarkHuneycutt]

It does!

[@TheSanibelCaptivaGuide]

Great videos Mark. FYI, I switched my throttle from the right handed PAP to the Vittorazi left hand throttle. The left handed throttle is slightly longer (about 100mm) I do love that PAP throttle, apart from the position of the kill switch. I inadvertently killed my motor by hitting the kill switch on my webbing, I ended up in a swamp. I just bought a new motor, I am thinking about going back to lefty again. Better to leave the right hand free IMHO. (for righties at least)

[@MarkHuneycutt]

I agree. I like having a left hand throttle so I can use my dominant right hand in flight.

[@choosehappy6291]

Super complete and honest review. Thanks

[@Larry-325]

Mark great video. Very interesting. Totally enjoyed!!!

[@johanhemberg3620]

The Pap has low hang points. The ATS system that are on the swing arm makes the weight shift a little more gentle, since it makes the hang point a little higher. Didn't have them on my pap frame to begin with and like it better with them. Especially if you are light weight with a motor that has good thrust it makes a difference.

[@lvsqcsl]

One thing I forgot to mention Tucker has that engine on his Scout and when got his new paramotor when he had to replace the engine he said there was a tether on that air box on his new motor. Yes, it was a MY19 just like ours. Ours doesn't have that, I have asked. I would say they should regardless of what frame they are installed on. Just a thought.

[@fourwindsppg2628]

lvsqcsl we have tethers if you want one. Just let me know :)

[@lvsqcsl]

I think a good preflight would be as good, thanks for your reply.

[@Chris-Fennimore]

Very helpfull! Thanks Mark! 👍😁👍

[@choosehappy6291]

Thanks for complete and honest review. Two questions from a guy still on ground. First I am curious that you came from paragliding so would have experience doing mid day thermals. Which glider are you using with your pap and are you having good success riding thermals with your current setup? Second, I hope you were joking about your weight and health. You seem to be an honorable modest man. Best to ya.

[@john2605]

Nice review, good looking motor.

[@flierbill]

Thanks Mark ! Great review !

[@Novadean1]

Yes Mark awesome how you did this appriciate also from Germany very very nice Paramotor how far I see ! Around all together approx. so 10,000 Box inkl. Gleider ( + - ) !

[@aaronbell5743]

Does the open areas on the frame which have no netting bother you? It would concern me, possible things getting into prop.

[@TheWayne660]

Hey Mark, you may have figured it out by now, but I just recently discovered on my pap with the 185 classic it starts on the first pull by taking the gas to the carb. I always over done it by trying to guess how much I was putting into the carb.

[@TheWayne660]

@@RwP223 when you are squeezing the gas up to the carb take it just to the intake do not let the gas actually enter into the carb. The diaphragm will pull it on in from there. Pull the pull rope until you feel the compression stroke and give it a good pull. Usually starts on the first pull every time.

[@StanBarankiewicz]

Sweet review!

[@epicfirsts888]

Is good. How many hours on that motor before replacement? And if replace how you do it? Does the girls help with stiffness?

[@candidoalcantara6718]

where are you flying?

[@calegarieliton]

Excelent vídeo friend, Strong Like to Brasil brother !

[@centralfloridaparamotor]

You flight airconception at the moment can you tell different between pap and ac and why you are on ac know

[@MarkHuneycutt]

When I filmed this video, I still had an AC but it was back in the United States with my wife. I no longer have this PAP and I'm currently flying an AC Revolution 200. I also have a Parajet Maverick Atom 80, Fly Products Rider Moster 185 Factory R, and a Skymax Pulsar.

[@jglassman1122]

That stash is a winner.

[@alfredclemency4952]

No SAS or FPS?

[@float_sam]

no blackhawk approved frame adjusters required? that is a rubber mallet

[@andrewsesterhenn3179]

Hey Mark, good review! I'm just considering getting into PPG. What motors did you own prior to this one? Thanks, be safe. Drew

[@MarkHuneycutt]

Howdy. I've had the Nitro 200 and Blackhawk 125 prior to this. My favorite is in this video and 2nd favorite is the Nitro 200. You won't regret getting into it!

[@jeffmoore759]

Great video man. Curious, how much do you weigh?

[@MarkHuneycutt]

165 pounds

[@natural9743]

Looking more Korean everyday

[@sam18529]

Great video Mark!! Quick question: what kind of reserve you have and how it is set up ( looks like it connected to your carabiners only or am I missing something) Thanks

[@MarkHuneycutt]

I have the Beamer 3 Light inside an Advance ZIP Light container. It's only connected to the carabiners. I use this setup because I frequently free fly and power paraglide so I can swap the reserve between types of flight.

[@therealandrewlund]

@@MarkHuneycutt You just have it hanging by the bridal? How does the rest of the bridal not work its way out of the container?

[@gorokhovsky1]

Do you find this harness with the moster 185 plus experiences higher torquing to the right as opposed to other rigs? I'm guessing since you don't use the torque strap it's not that bad?

[@MarkHuneycutt]

It's not that bad in my opinion but it definitely turns you right at full power. I slide left in my seat and hold a little left brake at full power to fix it. As for a particular harnesses, I don't think they build torque compensation into harnesses as much as they do the swing arms, offset blocks, aerodynamic spars and lamels, etc. The torque strap is the first harness related thing I've seen, and you could use it on any harness.

[@kazikoFPV]

I cant find any info on their website on where to purchase in the US and cost?

[@fourwindsppg2628]

We have units in stock and can ship. Www.fourwindsppg.com

[@onecircuit]

Hey Mark if I donate via Paypal will I still be in the raffle for the Reserve? Thx.

[@MarkHuneycutt]

Yes! Make sure you leave the four winds comment in the donation

[@jak8470]

Cool

[@gsp2west]

What is the dry weight ?

[@MarkHuneycutt]

Kind of left that up to the viewer since I had fuel in there. I'm not sure. See 21:34 . We think 58ish pounds but I may reweigh it dry after I run a tank dry.

[@MarkHuneycutt]

53.8 pounds dry no cage pieces 57.4 pounds dry Just ran it dry yesterday and reweighed today

[@Flattopk2]

what is the phone hook up thingamajig

[@fairbanksairriders]

That phone is blasting an EMF field which kills cellular mitochondria. Keep phones and radios away from your head and body as much as possible. EMF field radiation reduces dramatically a foot away from most devices. There’s no good solution for this, but I store devices in a harness pocket. Amazon.com has many different phone attachment products.

[@Lunch_box]

Are you stationed in South Korea now?

[@MarkHuneycutt]

sure am

[@Lunch_box]

@@MarkHuneycutt oh, sweet, I was wondering what happened to you being on the east coast, thanks for your service dude

[@kchappelle]

Ever take off with your prop covers on? lol

[@wll1500]

Well you wouldn't actually generate any thrust so...

[@kchappelle]

wll1500 some but not much. The cover would take the shape of the prop.

[@wll1500]

@@kchappelle no it wouldn't

[@kchappelle]

wll1500 yes it would. Anyone with half a brain would know that.

[@kchappelle]

Are you saying there would be no moving air at all around the prop at full throttle? Clown.

[@philc9305]

Most likely the phone flys into the cage and that thinly spaced net won't do much good resulting in your phone becoming propeller food.

[@Accurize2]

Phone tether is the answer

[@dogofwisdom7945]

My engine breaks down into 4 pieces like that albeit is a different brand. It stays in the back of my jeep at all times. I wont own any other unit that doesn't.

[@ramadep13]

o wow, he lost a lot of weight - ? what's going on ? stay good

[@MarkHuneycutt]

I'm dying

[@AlaynaDickersonPilot]

Girls may not think its sexy when you fly by but your girlfriend thinks it is!

[@SMarti018]

Fucking advertisements every 30 seconds! I’m about to give up on this video...

[@MarkHuneycutt]

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