Paper Mario Sticker Star BETA comparisons

[@FullArcher05]

“We didn’t like Paper Mario because it was called Paper Mario, we liked it because it was Mario Story.” -Arlo

[@epikcaik7742]

I literally just watched that video before coming to this one lol

[@ttydis100thebestgame5]

Arlo sucks

[@malikmalikmalikmalikma]

That phrase its so overused its getting annoying

[@ttydis100thebestgame5]

@@malikmalikmalikmalikma I know Arlo is annoying he thinks thousand Year door is perfect

[@marionicfan1569]

@@malikmalikmalikmalikma maybe because it's a valid phrase...

[@Demeech]

This is like watching a close friend or family member be perfectly sane, then get into drugs, and do crazy and awful things.

[@mr_k679]

Basically Mcgucket from Gravity Falls and Simon the Ice King from Adventure Time

[@tiktokcompilations797]

Shut up Demeech

[@SR___]

Hey Demeech how are you

[@kjbroadway9557]

It’s sad when you realize that Sticker Star Beta will be the closet we will ever get to see a TTYD sequel

[@naufanabd]

But TTYD IS a sequel to PM64. It's kinda weird to hear people want TTYD a sequel

[@IAmNotASandwich453]

@@naufanabd... And? Now people want a sequel to TTYD? I dont see the problem

[@FakestLoogi]

@@naufanabd think of it as a sequel to a sequel

[@palaceswitcher]

Super Paper Mario exists too

[@glitchedmc3791]

@@palaceswitcher Ikr? everyone always forgets about spm

[@HexiiCola]

It's like watching someone you love slowly lose their mind or even die from some illness.

[@deanmoriarty6015]

this is so painfully accurate

[@j-rex229]

Except it's just a fucking game.

[@koekerfloeker2454]

@@j-rex229 a game that shaped many people into who they are, made a lot of childhoods awesome, and is beloved till this day... *UNLIKE STICKER STAR*

[@j-rex229]

@@koekerfloeker2454 The importance of someone you love isn't comparable to one of a game, even if it was your childhood.

[@koekerfloeker2454]

@@j-rex229 that is completely true, a game, not matter how important it is to you, will always not be real, unless it's a recreatiation of a real event of course. But when you lose a person, they're gone forever, never to be seen again. All the memories, will forever just be memories, because that person, basicaly doesn't exist anymore

[@animeluigiboy]

The beta actually looks better than the finished version. YOU CAN USE A CHAIN CHOMP AS A PARTNER!

[@Strudlll]

The animation was actually re-used for when mario sets sail from the harbor

[@heartwolfphantom9366]

The game would've been a great Paper Mario game if they went with the beta direction. But then Miyamoto walked in and called it a port of the Gamecube game and well, now the game looks like as if the N64 game and the NSMB games had an accident.

[@Yoshibros088]

SO WHAT IF IT WAS A PORT IT WAS A GAMECUBE PAPER MARIO FOR 3DS

[@SuperKoopaguy]

Bullshit. Sticker Star sucks ass.

[@tendo3541]

Tommy Howell no. Have you ever played sticker star. No you have not. That game is the only one that is absolutely trash

[@redbullevil7615]

@@tendo3541 everyone can habe their own opinion so stop being an ass

[@tendo3541]

@@redbullevil7615 Not only should you learn how to spell but your defending someone who called someone an ass. What are you a bully henchman

[@danielthomas7222]

"Hey, Miyamoto! This game is looking great! If we work hard enough, it could even trump TTYD!" "Wait, what? Take everything out? Are you sure?" "Only one partner... is something wrong?" "I don't like the sound of this battle system, boss..." "NO EXP?! DO YOU WANT THIS GAME TO BE BORING?!"

[@LinnyUwU]

*Trump*

[@awildcommenter7240]

Villager of SmashVille someone had to say it XD

[@arturocastroverde3349]

NOOOO THIS GAME LOOKS TOOO GOOOD!!!! I AM JELOUS BECAUSE PAPER MARIO TOPS SUPER MARIO!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOO

[@Cuentaaltern4]

It wasn't his fault but yeah i don't what intelligent sistema where thinking.

[@CuteRedPanda64]

​@@Cuentaaltern4Angry Video game Nerd: WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!?

[@Genericdude]

You can just see the game get progressively worse...

[@koolredfoxplays8052]

+Genericdude And my smile slowly faded away as the video went on...

[@brittanysqueech]

my smile grew bigger until my cheeks hurt

[@WoobinTheScrub]

I remember seeing the screenshots in a Nintendo Power magazine, then was disappointed when the other screenshots came in

[@oshabot1646]

@@WoobinTheScrub sup

[@AGZhark]

@@TheMarioManiacSadly I’m agreeing with the furry

[@QuestionableBlock]

I kinda enjoyed sticker star. But the beta version looks SOO much better! Original characters, Partners, Nice looking environments. Hell, there might have been an original story too.

[@bunsmasterbunny]

Yes, thank you! The beta looked so much more beautiful visually compared to the final game because everything didn't look like freaking paper.

[@kazoorion7993]

The paper makes everything looks too artifitial and lifeless.

[@Dexuz]

The "everything is fucking paper" gimmick makes the game more unique in my opinion. But I would prefer a port of TTYD to switch rather than other Paper Mario with Miyamoto's interventions.

[@computermariobross]

@@Dexuz I don't know if I'd want something like that. I don't want to see the Thousand-Year Sticker honestly.

[@Dexuz]

@@computermariobross So you don't like the paper aesthethics? Well I will be honest, I don't like how the game looks on the 3ds, but in Color Splash? Omg its glorious, I need paper aesthetics with good graphics, even though I prefer the old gameplay as opposed to another Sticker Star clone with good graphics.

[@BrandenFudgey]

Why did they take away that really cool playing card world? That looked awesome!

[@pebble6087]

v1 looked so much better than the final game

[@Sheimiko]

Version 1. That looked liked more of a RPG game.

[@user-jl7cz2pe6d]

It was a RPG game.

[@aaronTGP_3756]

A playing card themed world would be neat for a paper-themed Paper Mario. Instead, we got basic NSMB worlds.

[@Butterstix2014]

It’s like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

[@TinyGuy97]

Sticker Star would have been good if they went the beta way. But nope, they had to bring Miyamoto into it. Miyamoto is cool, but he should stay away from RPGs. Fact!

[@vjchief]

+Dark Pop oh dear god it's paper splatoon now

[@kazoorion7993]

Mario Party, Mertoid, Animal Corssing and now we can add Paper Mario to the franchises that Nintendo has completely ruined.

[@Medachod]

*+Kazoorion* New Leaf is amazing and Metroid Prime 4 will be very fun. Don't know where you're coming from.

[@GuyWithThePie]

Medachod He's talking about the crappy spinoffs like Amiibo Festival.

[@redjackal7823]

If he ruins Splatoon I’m going to cry. 😭

[@MegaZack30]

The first screenshots look quite good, much more like Paper Mario, partners and all. The last thing I would have expected to happen was to see Mario's _own creator_ bring this mess upon his own legendary creation. I mean, he DID tell the guys over at Intellegent Systems to drop the FP . . . and badges. . . and partners. . . and Star Points/leveling up. . . and make the story minimalistic. . . (ALSO stripped Bowser of any possible dialouge he may have had, and he had some great dialouge in the first three games, trust me. Oh and almost NO Paper Mario-exclusive characters.) For someone who created "Mr. Video Game himself", I would have expected him to treat Mario better than this. The game is okay at best, though.

[@Hirokey123]

I know this is a year ago but....he didn't do any of that. He said "This is boring and too much like TTYD so make it more creative and interesting". And of course it was boring look at those early screen shots do you EVER see anything like star points, star power, FP, BP, Badges, the audience, even items? No because there never was it was literally the most bare bones basic of PM gameplay it's really not a wonder it was called both boring and uncreative. On the subject of star points the game was never going to have them. The new head of this new PM team decided from the beginning "I want to make a system where battles are about strategy and how you use your skills not your stats". That's why the battle system was designed as it was in all versions. As for partners after being told to design a more interesting system Intelligent Systems kind of went off the deep end. They went balls deep with sticker based combat but then soon found that partners were clashing with the system THEY wanted to make. They apparently tried a lot of ways to fit partners into the system but none of them felt right, and so in the end rather include an element into the system they were unhappy with they removed it entirely. For the story Miyamoto didn't want a minimalistic tale. But he felt Mario is stronger when it uses smaller episodic tales than one big overarching plot. Basically he was thinking something along the lines of PM64. There isn't really an overarching plot it's "bower takes peach and is boosted by the star rod go get the star spirits to rescue her" but the game is very enjoyable because of the individual stories from the fight against the koopa bros to the shy guy's invasion of Toad Town. This is also what the new PM writer felt was their specialty. Still miyamoto didn't actually make any calls, he's a supervisor he gives suggestions and makes sure development flows smoothly. He told them it was up to them to decide on what to do and this PM team was split, in the end lack of interest in the overarching tale from surveys of fans lead them to focus on smaller episodes. From this point it was up to the writer and the writer dropped the ball, most people enjoy World 3 and say it feels like a proper PM chapter. And that very easily could have been the standard for the whole game, there is no rule that they couldn't it was a failure of the new writer's part. Same for Bowser talking they could of made Bowser talk the writer simply chose not to, they chose to make only the squad of 16 goombas boss talk. In fact what Miyamoto gets a lot of blame for the real blame needs to be put on IS. People think because the same developer made it that Miyamoto was the changing factor, but he wasn't. Because what a lot of people miss is that sticker star is made by an almost entirely green paper mario team. Most of the original Paper Mario team was gone after TTYD. A few were still there for SPM and then that left to. Almost everyone who made PM SS and had decision making power had never actually made any of the previous PM games. Another thing people overlook is the less involved with the series Miyamoto got the worse the games got. He was directly involved and held majority power for 64 and TYYD. But then with SPM he started to take a hands off role as a mere supervisor, and that carried over to SS where he had even LESS involvement than he did with SPM. Why does him going further away hurt the series? Simple because he knows how to make a fun game, he's experienced, he knows what he knows....and this team just doesn't these newer people don't have that same history and knack their experience pales in comparison. Also I respect your avatar, Peridot is best gem.

[@janicerogalewski8500]

Hirokey123 it's not like sticker star was better then the beta anyway

[@Medachod]

I feel like Miyamoto gets too much hate.

[@gracklepolp0534]

@@Hirokey123 This makes so much sense. Seeing as the people who made SS were completely new, they didnt really know how to make a Paper Mario game. Then when they developed CS they understood a little more, and now TOK where they seemed to have done a shit ton of research and TOK looks the closest to TTYD we will get for a while.

[@GavinsBazaar313]

@@Hirokey123 Also I'd like to add onto this statement that Miyamoto himself said in an interview that he found Sticker Star's final product "boring". Tanabe is the one who went along with Miyamoto's suggestions, Miyamoto didn't force anyone to do his suggestions.

[@itsjustJex]

That monty mole king was more unique than any other boss design in the released game.

[@anepicgamer8127]

Man the worst part is that the beta looks better then the actual game looked like, I mean there was partners, the battle system looked better...

[@RuffyYoshi]

It's evident. Miyamoto needs to get the fuck out. I don't even wanna see the beta version of Color Splash or I might actually cry if I see partners.

[@froakie1404]

Look at this its so magnificent the battle system the characters THERE WERE PARTNERS

[@rendumguy7596]

SInce CS seems to take inspiration from SS, it probably never had partners.

[@froakie1404]

Rendum Guy well there is a chain chomp partner

[@GuyWithThePie]

Color Splash ended up being a pretty good addition to the series, and it has the excuse of its development starting just days after Sticker Star's completion, meaning that they didn't have much time to listen to feedback. But there's absolutely no way they can just ignore the backlash that Color Splash's initial trailer received. They're either going to have to ditch the series or do their best to replicate the original style with the new development team (Most of the 64/TTYD/SPM team left the series somewhere in the middle of SS's development from what I've heard) or try to get more of the old team members back. The backlash and outrage they'd get for making a third Sticker Star-styled game would be unbelievable.

[@rendumguy7596]

***** There's no excuse making a game days after release wit no feedback. Also. are you on reddit or gamefaqs? Your name sounds familiar. EDIT: "GuyWithPie", whose username got stolen by a dormant account, seems like you. Are you also on roblox?

[@wobblyaaron]

We all realize that if the original beta was chosen we’d still have stickers, right?

[@wobblyaaron]

true, it would’ve of been nice to have something with actual life put into it

[@wantedbird55srandomchannel28]

Just an idea, but maybe the stickers only modify the hammer and jump like they do now, but you can use a regular hammer or jump indefinitely. That way, one doesn't need to buy worn-out or normal jumps/hammers and use Mario's classic arsenal.

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

They might've worked like the Bros Items in Partners in Time

[@justinluc2572]

wtf why does the beta look so good

[@S113Productions]

Wow, the beta looked 100 times better, along with the partner - Chain Chomp! The ability it used looked awesome.

[@thescarredsinner895]

If only

[@arturocastroverde3349]

Chain Chompy?

[@marcosgalvis3498]

@@arturocastroverde3349 what about Barky? the next in line to become alpha in a clan of chomps in the jungle?

[@arturocastroverde3349]

@@marcosgalvis3498 you're right, they most stop the Monty Mole

[@marcosgalvis3498]

@@arturocastroverde3349 Liege Mole.

[@corel7966]

i like to come back here every now and then feel a little sad for this game

[@ahh2012]

Damn at this point I’m coming every week just to remind myself what could have been 😔

[@lazylenni1017]

There is a petition for a TTYD remaster. I recommend, checking it out, if you want to change something .

[@yabukiman4273]

Thank you veeeeerrrry much, Miyamoto... EDIT: It looks like I should be "thanking" Tanabe too. So hey, thank you veeeeerrrry much...

[@marionicfan1569]

actually kensuke tanabe is just as responsible if not more so.

[@lazylenni1017]

@@marionicfan1569 Kensuke Tanabe looks up to Miyamoto's ideology to this day.

[@jimmer4039]

*but... that chain chomp partner...*

[@Butterstix2014]

I wouldn’t be surprised if that “S Meter” thing was meant to increase your Album’s maximum page count or something, kinda like the hammer scraps and the Paint Hammer in Color Splash. If that was the case, it makes me angry they took out something that would’ve given the battles more incentive.

[@ramarriblevinsjones5709]

I think how much you can use your sticker until it ran out or something, I dont know.

[@dustymcwari4468]

Not really, the Paint Hammer upgrade is actually very ignorable, the game gives you plenty of paint, and you don’t really need to spend that much paint anyways, as well as the fact that you can purchase prepainted cards with the huge sums of cash you get And Sticker Star isn’t far off either, you can even find compact Thing Stickers that take way less space than the giant ones for similar damage, and there’s plenty of farming spots to get bunches of flashy stickers, and they encourage you to finish the normal encounters using one turn, and Sticker Star doesn’t throw as many forced encounters as Color Splash, let alone only Kamek tampers with your stickers, and that only happens during his few fights So being able to increase the sticker capacity using some other method besides collecting the Royal Stickers wouldn’t have really done much for the game, the inventory space is very manageable as it is, expanding it would just let people hoard more stickers than they can chew xd

[@renatoamud2299]

Soo.. Basically, Miyamoto scrapped all RPG elements and Paper Mario franchise turned into a... Action-adventure? With useless battle system?

[@Masked_Mastermind]

It was Kensuke Tanabe, not Miyamoto.

[@GavinsBazaar313]

@@Masked_Mastermind Miyamoto only said to keep the characters to the Mushroom Kingdom family. That was it, you're right Kensuke Tanabe was the one who made modern Paper Mario the way it is.

[@thelegendarymarioman8461]

@@GavinsBazaar313 no it was not him

[@GavinsBazaar313]

@@thelegendarymarioman8461 Yes it was. Watch the video "Why Paper Mario Changed"

[@GavinsBazaar313]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYDOY4Suea6KbMU "Why Paper Mario Changed"

[@xadamx94]

the only good thing about this and CS is that it makes me appreciate pm64 and ttyd that much more

[@wishuri]

This honestly looks better than the final game, change my mind

[@redstreak9430]

I really hope they revisit this beta and revive it for the Switch. Nintendo’s philosophy has changed a lot since then so they should embrace the fact that fans want a return to 64/TTYD style gameplay rather than dismissing it as a port. I mean, the Switch has released plenty of games that can be considered ports both literally and with the logic this beta was so why not do something on a series fans will eat up. Edit: well here’s hoping the remake sells well

[@gracklepolp0534]

Well sorry to disappoint you but the answer to that is a big fat no. But hey at least this new game looks better than sticker and color splash combined.

[@redstreak9430]

Yeah. At least Bug Fables looks fun

[@lazylenni1017]

@@redstreak9430 I have heard, Bug Fables builds on the foundation of the classic Paper Mario games.

[@ahmedhasan4966]

​@@redstreak9430Breaking news: TTYD REMASTER YAY!

[@rinn5238]

There's a nonzero chance now! I'm really hoping the next Paper Mario game can bring this game to life, seeing what was taken away hurts a lot and every day I hope we can find the lost e3 2010 trailer.

[@rinn5238]

with the new TTYD remake on the way, I wonder if they'll revive what they were planning here...

[@WigWavv]

is that a chained chomp as a partner if so ill be mad

[@WigWavv]

they also added a stage in battle..

[@cowboyluigi5275]

Yes, a chain chomp was planned to be a partner.

[@LinnyUwU]

Sadly, even if the beta game was the official game, he wouldnt be in it.

[@superd3gamer]

Villager of SmashVille Why wouldn't the chain chomp be in it?

[@LinnyUwU]

***** The developers said that "It wouldn't go with the sticker mechanics."

[@jnick6740]

i recently looking for paper mario stuff and i found this.The beta looked so much better and more creative.While the new games are not that great some are not even close to decent they had a great art direction but they focused so much on it that removed the rpg part of it.Hope to see a new game with the new style with the old battle system and a decent story would be great but of right now kind of seems a low chance that will happen.

[@ultramaker3832]

I hate how they want to erase the beta of this game forever

[@levthelion71810]

This is like dementia but the bad memories stay

[@Lunikyuu]

I remember staring at the V1 screenshots constantly and feeling unimaginably hype for this game ...and then the game lived up to absolutely none of that hype ;w;

[@Dash120z]

Miyamoto is a brilliant man but not everything he touches turns into gold, this and Star Fox Adventures are examples of that.

[@Powerman77775]

He’s a man who doesn’t like story or complex battle systems. Simple fun is what he strives for

[@appeli1]

@@Powerman77775 he never forced anything though it was just his opinion and the creator said HOLY SHIT I NEED MORE CRACK and gave birth to a accident, thats also the story of how i was born!

[@brandonwilliams6119]

@Dash120z Yeah and I bet you Starfox Adventures is is a hell of a lot more fun and interesting than those bland shitty Starfox 64 Remakes which don’t push the series forward in any sort of way.

[@KaiJie-n8q]

@@brandonwilliams6119 There's is no star fox 64 remakes?

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

Zero is worse

[@victordiaz4854]

This game held promise, a promise that one of our favorite series in Nintendo was done with that change in the formula. Sadly, it was a death sentence instead. What IS the future of Paper Mario? I'd say it's time to give up with the release of Paper Mario: Color Splash. It WAS a fun game, just not the game we desperately crave.

[@thefoolishgmodcube2644]

+Nicola Cabiddu This is just rumor though, so it's best not to get your hopes up too fast. Still, let's hope for a Paper Mario announcement on switch in 2020 or something.

[@VoxelVarmint]

This. This is why I'm no longer going by the "goombario64" name. Paper Mario hit it's lowest at this point. That and their obsession with cats! "Cat Mario", "Jinbanyan", "Cat doodles (in SwapNote/SwapDoodle)", "CAT Machine / MEOW Coupons (in Animal Crossing)".. ALRIGHT ALREADY! I get it, they don't like dogs. Doesn't mean they have to neglect them... A Chain Chomp as a companion would have been awesome. What the fumble was going on in that think-tank of thiers..? I don't care if Color Splash is anything better, either. I still like Nintendo, but I've already parachuted out of the Paper Plane.

[@parodynet3004]

You're dumb. There are quite a lot of dogs too in their games. Nintendogs for example. Pay more attention before stating an invalid point.

[@gracklepolp0534]

"Hey Mr. Myamoto we just want to get your opinion on this new fun paper mar.." "Wait hold on, what was that word you just said?" "Uhh paper?" "No, before that." "Uhh fun?" "Ahh yes that word. Now what game is it your talking about?" "The latest entry in the paper mario franchise!" "Well the word "fun" and the game "paper mario" don't seem to fit." "Uhh What are you talking about?" "Well you see the only fun thing I know is the Mario and Luigi franchise and I really dont think we need two rpg's going on at the same time, so I say we make this new paper mario not fun at all so people will focus on the mario and Luigi franchise instead." "But Mr. Myamo..." "If you talk back I will make sure Intelligent systems go bankrupt." "Okey dokey well have a good day Mr. Myamoto. We Will start making changes right away!"

[@miserablepileofsecrets]

Someone eed to make a fanmade of thie beta product into a full game with its contents. I love the final product, but the early ones looks very prpmising for another Paper Mario itself

[@thefoolishgmodcube2644]

Now I'm even more pissed at Miyamoto or whoever ruined the game, this looked like an actual Paper Mario game at first! Why did they have to fuck it up so bad!?

[@ryrygaming6217]

Beta: look a bearded king, or a chain chomp partner or a room filled with cards, a blue dungeon with a whomp which might be the first time we see a whomp in a paper Mario game, same thing goes with the soda jungle Final: uh I have stickers....

[@Old_Gamerboy64]

Having a chain chomp as a partner would of been epic

[@yellowtoad3393]

Man, every time I see the beta of this game I get really upset. To think we could've actually gotten a true return to form to the series at some point. I really hope there's some kind of alternate universe where this was the game we got and not the game we have now.

[@lazylenni1017]

If I could travel through time, I would start working at Nintendo and stop this! Probably

[@skirdus367]

They were even still using the old enemy designs. I fucking loathe the atrocity that Sticker Star became

[@brittanysqueech]

omg was wiggler srsly supposed to have like 20 segments?

[@gracklepolp0534]

Well Wiggler was supposed to just be a normal over world hazard. In the short clip that played during the E3 this was revealed it showed of like 2 Wigglers.

[@someguyness]

Someone needs to do a homebrew remake of the original beta for 3DS

[@mspeter97]

Well, Miyamoto was right about one thing: it looked like TTYD. What he got wrong, is that people WANTED TTYD! Still, Color Splash is a HUGE improvement. Still, where did you get these screenshots at 1:29 onwards?

[@OUTLAWCAZTnew]

I don't remember exactly, but i guess that was from a video footage in some convention.

[@kazoorion7993]

It isn't that huge, but I agree on the rest.

[@arturocastroverde3349]

Color Splash is a good improvement, Origami King is a HUGE improvement Open Areas, New Villain, Actual Plot, Bowser Is Not The Villain, Coherent Baltte System

[@emceemunchapussy1891]

@@arturocastroverde3349 no coherent battle system. No real partners.

[@neoncosmo.garden]

@@emceemunchapussy1891 sorry but who asked you

[@OUTLAWCAZTnew]

Es naturalmente relacional, de antemano se sabe que es un Paper Mario al que los cambios lo echaron a perder, es increíble que Super Paper Mario tenga más elementos RPG que este juego, tienes EXP points, items, partners, la mejor historia, la mejor música, subes de nivel, etc. Super Paper Mario fue un "RPG con batallas de accion" y Sticker Star es un "Plataformas con batallas RPG" es una pena que lo que le falte a uno lo tenga el otro, se trata de mejorar e innovar, no de cambiar y desechar.

[@LinnyUwU]

Also if anyone else is wondering I am actually trying to make a game inspired by The Thousand-Year Door and Sticker Star's beta. (But without any stickers AT ALL!) It will feature an all new character as the main protagonist and with about 10 partners including one that has a secret and dark back story.

[@LinnyUwU]

Im only creating ideas for it, but I have removed the ten partner idea and replaced it with the same physic as Super Paper Mario on how you can change your character, but it wont have a platformer and it will have the TTYD Battle System. I plan on naming it "The Souls and the World." It might also play in an Earthbound type of style, but with the Paper Mario battle system. The game is still going well though.

[@Hilda_ogden]

Villager of SmashVille update pls

[@lazylenni1017]

These are some interesting ideas!

[@SolarFarle]

I remember being excited for the game and then I never touched it again after buying it when it was nothing like the beta and I really wanted to know who that Chain Chomp was and the other partners you would get throughout the adventure.

[@fawfulthegreat64]

I think the ORIGINAL beta version is far better than those other crap versions.

[@BaHTRieD]

Miyamoto is a really great man, but he ruined the Paper Mario Games. Paper Mario 2 was one of my best experience, with Videogames

[@someonenamedgabby]

Aka thousand year door

[@glitchedmc3791]

mine the third one

[@lazylenni1017]

Miyamoto is not working on Paper Mario anymore. Kensuke Tanabe adapted his ideology though. TTYD is also one of my favorite games! Playing Mods or challenge runs is pretty interesting.

[@FlowJoeCartoons]

I want to live in the timeline where we got V.1 instead.

[@lazylenni1017]

You are not the only one.

[@paalaaa]

I like sticker star but this looks so much better. (the V1 Screenshots)

[@crisgore1213]

"Oh no, this game looks like ttyd, a excellent game loved by all the Paper Mario fans, what i should do now?. I have a idea, lets make the game more boring and remove interesing features, yes, the Paper Mario fans is gonna love this" -Miyamoto

[@appeli1]

thats not correct miyamoto just said it felt like ttyd and he would like if it was just mario characters but he never forced it he even asked Alphadream to do the same thing for dreamteam but they said no

[@GoldenPhoenix33]

Wow xp level and partners are really fun things. Of course making a game different than ttyd is crazy and it means that the game is trash. Seriously bro you never played this game

[@Ursi_]

1:52 what am I meant to look at here? If only there was a red cir- oooh I see it now

[@redjackal7823]

I liked the first version! What was wrong with it?

[@KosmicSandey]

Miyamoto said it looked like TTYD, and didn’t realize that’s exactly what people wanted

[@lazylenni1017]

@@KosmicSandey After Sticker Star Miyamotos involvement with the series ended. But Kensuke Tanabe still follows his ideology.

[@Galaxia53]

I really hope Miyamoto is not going to be involved in the next Paper Mario game.

[@Galaxia53]

Emerald Gaming 101 It _is_ a bad game and I don't want this to happen ever again.

[@ULTRADJ4EVER]

Me too.

[@NewFlipnoteHatena]

change.org/p/nintendo-bring-the-paper-mario-series-back-to-its-roots Hey can you take a look at this and possibly sign it? Thanks >w

[@Galaxia53]

Emerald Gaming 101 The music doesn't fit a Paper Mario game. Miyamoto changest the music as well, it _was_ better.

[@TinyGuy97]

Emerald Gaming 101 Not a fan of the music. The only one I liked was the last phase of Bowser. The others were too jazzy for me or overused remixes of past Mario games, which is overdone now. Sticker Star basically suck period. I almost want to say it's fact. It's bland, boring, tedious, unimaginable, repetitive, and felt like a chore than playing a game.

[@GuyWithThePie]

What do you suppose the S meter on the top-left of some screenshots was supposed to stand for? Star Points? Special Attack? Guess we'll never know...

[@paradoxzee6834]

Sticker points? Maybe each sticker costed points to use and the meter went down depended on the sticker power

[@RyderPlatinumWarpstar]

I want to believe it's Star points, you can see it in the overworld too

[@LinnyUwU]

I wish I knew, but I only have the V1 Beta...

[@GuyWithThePie]

Villager of SmashVille Liar.

[@setherfluous]

GuyWithThePie Oh, I’m pretty sure it was some form of EXP, like Star Points. But like everything else good about the game, it was sadly removed per Miyamoto’s request.

[@toadplayssupermario]

The beta was going to have the old enemy sprites from the first 3 Paper Mario games. It made Paper Mario unique, so I prefer the beta.

[@superwaluigiworld9356]

Nintendo should hire me, i have good boss and chapter ideas, id have unique partners (probably wouldnt think of a name tho), and NEW THEMES so it isnt just grass dessert forest water sky mountain snow, id mix up themes so possibly a palace made of water in the sky is being taken over by paratroopas and you need to find a way to stop it, or you meet up with Kolorado again and he asks if you could come on an adventure and you have no choice but to agree so you find this mountain but it is covered in fog, hike your way up only to find sombody was following you and this is the boss because he wants to be the first to climb the mountain so you beat him up, those are just two of my many chapter ideas, this comment is getting to long if you would like to hear more reply with an idea of yourse and i will most likely reply with more of mine (trust me there are more)

[@parodynet3004]

Nintendo shouldn't hire a naive first-grader who doesn't understand a bit of design or/and programming. It's not that easy to develop a game, child. Maybe if you try hard, you'll get a job at MCDolands. I'll pay ya a visit there, okayyy???

[@creasedpaperball]

basically a timelapse of paper mario dying 😔

[@AGZhark]

Found the TTYD fan

[@creasedpaperball]

@@AGZhark lol ig u can say that but I really like pm64 better

[@batmanbud2]

Not to worry. There is hope. . . even if Mario and Luigi was always ever so slightly better, imo.

[@jeancurcio9675]

I wonder what's next, because there really isn't another gimmick to make it different. It's either partners or just Mario.

[@lazylenni1017]

That didn't age well...

[@BottledPoe]

I've never seen this and i gotta say the beta version looked promising

[@froakie1404]

You can tell the game got worse and worse as development went on

[@skillexsupportet1299]

The stickers were still a terrible idea but the beta looks so much better than the final product...

[@lazylenni1017]

Sadly they went backwards during developement.

[@JoseRodriguez-rm5yu]

Its evolving. Just backwards

[@pkthefirst1524]

Ngl I think Super Paper Mario is my favorite Paper Mario game

[@OUTLAWCAZTnew]

Así es. Alphadream se encargó de introducir al mundo RPG a un personaje poco usual como Fesor, en Superstar saga era un personaje ocasional, mientras que en el Compañeros en el Tiempo era de los personajes principales en la historia, Fesor no aplicaba para la historia de Bowser's Inside Story, y no habría quedado como personaje ocasional otra vez porque sería un retroceso, Superstar Saga iba a tener varios cameos pero al final solo quedó la referencia de Wario en el teatro, (ya es algo).

[@OUTLAWCAZTnew]

Eso, mucho tuvo que ver que los Americanos no tenían ni idea que Bibiana era hombre, entonces se sintieron engañados y prefirieron la necedad que la aceptación, de haber dejado el juego con sus líneas originales no habría pasado a mayores, "cuentas claras amistades largas".

[@NewFlipnoteHatena]

Oh look the Goombas didn't look like shit :)

[@NewFlipnoteHatena]

+GuyWithThePie they took away the unique Goomba style that the Paper Mario games had

[@rendumguy7596]

I personally don't mind the Goombas as much as other ruined enemies (Spinies...) but, they are rounder, have brown shoes, and closed mouths.

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

I don't think they look terrible, but it really is dumb instead of having actually creative designs, they're just taken from New Super Mario Bros

[@Termina2018]

We could've had a Chain Chomp partner... 😭💀

[@OUTLAWCAZTnew]

Definitivamente al simple hecho de tener gran parte de la historia en los sueños de Luigi se le puede sacar mucho partido, aunque todo apuntaba a que la cuarta entrega trataría del regreso de los Shroobs, aún no se sabe con exactitud si estos siquiera aparecerán en el juego, pero el juego promete.

[@glitchmingaming4216]

Someone has to make this into a fan game. Now THAT would be cool.

[@killerfish3603]

looks alot better then the thing they call a paper mario game i got and A CHAIN CHOMP as partner?!?!?!?!? i love that idea

[@DarkChirano]

Original version for sure. Also, it seriously baffles me how they got rid of the secondary meter, when having it could or would have solved a slew of the game's problems.

[@OUTLAWCAZTnew]

Tienes razón, PiT maneja una historia más oscura, pero no dejó de ser divertida, los bebés le quitaban bastante seriedad y aún así todas sus canciones de combate eran serias (como ningún otro RPG de Mario) además la calidad del sonido de PiT es superior a la de BIS, no me lo podía creer cuando hice la prueba de sonido, por lo que espero que DT aprenda de sus antecesores como AlphaDream siempre lo ha hecho, y también será interesante ver que pasará con los poderes y los ayudantes en Smash.

[@lamondlense]

I wish I could go back in time and warn them about how shit versions 2 onwards were and how they should have kept the original cause it actually looked Unique and not one of the worst Mario games to ever exist

[@lazylenni1017]

You would be a hero!

[@RyderPlatinumWarpstar]

(Edited since what I said before was really.. harsh.) This video proves that Nintendo should just back off from Mario RPG's and leave it to Intelligent Systems.

[@thefoolishgmodcube2644]

+Ningen-Sama Miyamoto fanboy attacking Paper Mario fans for standing up against his precious god, then even goes to shit talk in someone's video and use cancerous emojis in order to humiliate himself anymore. You're probably the same age as most of Logan Paul's fans, always flaming whoever fights him. If you're going to mock fans of dead franchises that are pissed at Nintendo for shitting on them, go back to NSMB or whatever franchise they're milking.

[@NerdMiGerd]

I still really admire Miyamoto as a creator, but it's clear he should have never had full reign over Paper Mario to begin with. *Of course* he's gonna remake the whole thing to be just like a mainline Mario game, he's working with what he's best at, which is the worst path to take with this specific franchise. It's the same reason I love Ryan Johnson as a director, but don't think he should have been brought on to direct a Star Wars movie. Miyamoto is a talented director, but story-driven RPGs just aren't his thing.

[@RyderPlatinumWarpstar]

@@NerdMiGerd Yeah you’re right, gosh the comment I posted here was really harsh towards Miyamoto, and I feel really bad now. I am a huge fan of Miyamoto, and I didn’t mean what I said before I edited my comment. I was just really angry at the time with Color Splash. Heck someone a few years ago said they found my address because of this comment, and for the longest time I thought I didn’t even make this comment. I am a huge Miyamoto admirer as well, and I regret the comment I made. Though I still think he should leave the Mario RPGs to Intelligent Systems.

[@NerdMiGerd]

@@RyderPlatinumWarpstar Yeah you're good. It's the same reason I'm worried at the prospect of a new Mario and Luigi game being made, without Alpha Dream's input.

[@RyderPlatinumWarpstar]

@@NerdMiGerd Yeah I miss Mario & Luigi as well.

[@TomLolxd]

Por dios, quiero un Paper Mario Sticker Star, director's cut gracias a estas fotos

[@OUTLAWCAZTnew]

Pues sí, de hecho al principio de SPM se pueden observar dos fotos con todos los compañeros de Mario en sus respectivas entregas, además se dice que SPM contiene sprites de Bibiana sin utilizar, pero nada que podamos llamar una aparición "real".

[@Guyofscience]

The chain chomp always being there is interesting. Should he have been a partner?

[@flamsey]

WE NEED CHARLIE CHAIN CHOMP

[@spideyham]

I still like the game so.....yeah.

[@goddessmodel]

your dumb

[@spideyham]

+Edge It's my opinion and you can't change it.

[@brittanysqueech]

i also like sticker star. really. i did.

[@spideyham]

+Noah L. I don't think it's the best far from it but I still like it for what it is.

[@LinnyUwU]

+Paper Mario Same here.

[@oddballExtraordinaire]

welp, looks like there's a chance for a fangame called "Paper Mario: Done Right" will come out soon

[@SB2749]

Seems like the game was still going to get stickers anyway even with partners. I don't know if this was good or bad.

[@ramarriblevinsjones5709]

What about that S Meter, could it do something with the stickers?

[@OUTLAWCAZTnew]

Mucho le ayudo a la saga de Paper Mario el hecho de dividir la historia en capítulos, pudiendo agregar cualquier tipo de evento a los capítulos relacionado con el objetivo de Mario más fácilmente y sin arruinar la historia, en Mario & Luigi la historia tiene que llevar una secuencia de principio a fin, como si fuese una película, sería buena idea contar con dos versiones de una canción como en BIS. Se aplicaría una medida de control en el online para quienes no jueguen por un rato, como en MK7.

[@OUTLAWCAZTnew]

Eso, la diferencia radica que en la versión española se adapta conforme a la traducción, y en la versión inglesa se adapta conforme a contenido "apropiado" siendo esto último algo que define la empresa y no el jugador.

[@OUTLAWCAZTnew]

Así es, pero confío en alphadream, confío en que entregaran un juego que todo el mundo quiere y defenderán su estilo a como de lugar, así como lo hicieron en su tercera entrega.

[@OUTLAWCAZTnew]

Así es, Sticker Star simplemente no soportó el peso de su nombre, y es una pena ya que fue una de las razones por la que compré la 3DS al ver las primeras imágenes del juego hace unos años, nadie pensó que el juego tendría ese cambio tan radical.

[@soupycask]

The comparison is:One is better than the other

[@OUTLAWCAZTnew]

Así es, imagino que la batalla final sera primero en los sueños de Luigi y después en el exterior, más que un cambio de personajes en la misma batalla (como en BIS) la batalla se dividiría en fases (como las batallas finales de SS y PiT) pero la pregunta sería, ¿Quien será el antagonista principal? ¿Podrá entrar a los sueños de Luigi también y hacerlos pesadillas? la historia tiene mucho potencial y espero que la sepan manejar bien, ni muy simple, ni muy saturada (como el emisario de Brawl).

[@OUTLAWCAZTnew]

Es sorprendente como van cambiando los roles, ahora la saga de prestigio y el ejemplo a seguir es Mario & Luigi, del cual cada juego es mejor que el anterior para muchos jugadores, a diferencia de Paper Mario, que no ha podido superarse desde hace casi 10 años. Miyamoto......Te dieron la mano y les tomaste el pie.

[@OUTLAWCAZTnew]

Así es, esperemos que en un próximo Paper Mario recuperen el sentido y nos entreguen un digno sucesor de TTYD que Sticker Star no fue, aunque es una pena que tengamos que esperar de 3 a 5 años para ver que sucede con la saga, en Mario & Luigi el alternar entre personajes si sería su equivalente, así como también estar en el exterior o en el interior de Bowser (a partir de la mitad del juego).

[@OmegaChase1002]

Miyamoto literally looked at this game and said "no, it looks too good, we have to make it shittier".

[@marionicfan1569]

actually when miyamoto play the final version he said it was boring and kesuke tanabe (the one who took charge of paper mario when the original chief director/producer ryota kawade as well as 90% of the original dev team left) kept everything as is so he is just as much at fault if not more so.

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@marionicfan1569 miyamoto got that snowball rolling in the first place.

[@marionicfan1569]

@@OmegaChase1002 I was just pointing out he wasn't the only one responsible is all. p.s. miyamoto also said in a rather recent interview about something along the lines of being less restrictive with mario but don't remember the details or even the article's name so take that with a grain of salt.

[@OmegaChase1002]

@@marionicfan1569 im gonna need to see a link. I never said miyamoto ruined it alone, but he shares most of the blame since he started this.

[@GavinsBazaar313]

@@OmegaChase1002 Miyamoto himself said in an interview that he found Sticker Star's final product "boring", he just asked for it to be an expansion to TTYD if you read the interviews. Tanabe is the real cause. I will get the links.

[@cyanryann64]

Wondering tf that S meter was for

[@tralaw6144]

Me too

[@mariogamefreak1]

Probably a sticker meter. Like the stars you use in ttyd.

[@KosmicSandey]

Should’ve kept on with V1