Paper Mario The Origami King - A Completionist's Unexpected Nightmare

[@DaNintendude]

The "No-accessories" and "No-game-overs" are less of a completion thing, and more of a challenge thing. I saw it as a "Hey, you liked the game? Why not try again, but this time challenge yourself!" Once I got the 100% ending, I was content, and I don't plan on doing the other 2 challenges until I get the hankering to play the game again.

[@JhettJones]

I literally can not believe that anyone enjoyed this game enough that they decided to play it again. :( Being built primarily around the discovery of finding things, shock reveals, and joke dialogue, it doesn't even lend itself well to replay even for people that do like it.

[@paperluigidrivinthecar5070]

@@JhettJones While yes it for sure is a lot less re-playable than the older games that doesn't mean it isn't at all. I've seen lots of people call this in their top 3 Paper Mario games.

[@grimsonforce7504]

@@paperluigidrivinthecar5070 yeah I'm one of those TTYD>PM64>TOK. The game has potential and it's frustrating how the game is strong in certain areas while completely missing the mark on others.

[@SpaceFrog999]

Nicholas Horan their top 3????? Bro there are 6 games and 3 of them suck ass, of course its in the top 3 wtf

[@paperluigidrivinthecar5070]

@@SpaceFrog999 I don't think you get how many people love Super...

[@mewmasterjash]

I loved the coffee shops, it shows that the minions aren't just robots waddling back and fourth, they are people

[@10thletter40]

It was one of my favorite parts of the entire game. I was happy when I found a coffee shop

[@ukyoize]

You know what would be even better?

[@bbcraz1226]

Samee

[@youtubewontletmetypeagoodu8128]

@@ukyoize what?

[@The155thbird]

Also coffee

[@amythistfire7]

I feel like we need something between “Finish it” and “Complete it” because BotW was the same way. Maybe “Complete it*” with an asterisk?

[@otakugamer108]

This one should have been a "Finipete It!" Too bad that was retired.

[@OctoNico]

"Dig your claws in it"

[@willywitchdoctor]

@@otakugamer108 I still say finipete it in normal conversations...its stupid but it really rolls of the tongue

[@robbybevard8034]

Also games like Persona 5 where its two playthroughs of a 100 hours game to get all the trophies, but like 10 playthroughs to get every single cutscene. Or the Link's Awakening chicken challenge, where the entire game takes about 15 hours, but doing the chicken minigame where you dodge chickens for 10 minutes straight takes 20 hours of attempts on its own and results in pausing every second. Or Horizon Zero Dawn which is great at all the difficulty levels the game came with, but is an absurd nightmare at its hardest DLC difficulty. Jirard really needs some kind of cutoff criteria where if getting a single reward takes longer than the rest of the game combined, it can get an asterisk.

[@lasarousi]

Compete it but through the years of playing and not in one sitting

[@danielwu6891]

I never thought I would get so emotional over a fictional bomb *_cri_* We'll miss you bobbi

[@KittyKatty999]

He's a ghost though, so he isn't gone forever.

[@lucabellucci8082]

Rest in peace bobunosuke domo

[@borisborisvichborislav4225]

He has thinky thinky panic

[@acedianihil8208]

eh, the whole arc was stupid, bombette and Bobbery showed bombbombs could do their signature thing without killing themselves, but its retconed for another "innovative" paper mario

[@owenmenning3878]

@@acedianihil8208 different rules dude. They even use bombs at the end of the game to progress

[@memeboyobitesthedust6593]

What did I say to get this a heart? We’ll never know... Oh crap the heart got erased

[@brknglasses2734]

The look on his face was priceless tho!

[@kkitzmiller8896]

Don't lie

[@memeboyobitesthedust6593]

k Kitzmiller who tf said I was lying

[@julianx2rl]

Nah, it really wasn't.

[@Actual_Mr_G]

No, it was not.

[@TheLonelyGoomba]

Was that deleted tweet about the secret medals mine? >.> I deleted it cos I didn’t want to stress people out about it before it was common knowledge

[@ianvanderburgt5244]

Damn bro you didn't even get a reply 😕

[@susamogus8331]

@@ianvanderburgt5244 well I mean you replied

[@RickSatan]

OMG THIS WAS SOOOOOOOOOOOO FUNNY I SERIOULY PEED IN MY PANTS

[@Cliffordlonghead]

Hi

[@RGC_animation]

Why delete?

[@luigimario6354]

Ok listen I'm sorry I've never seen the actual key to peaches castle stop telling me I'm wrong all the time

[@luigimario6354]

:,( I just wana be helpful...

[@dantesdiscoinfernolol]

You were still very helpful Luigi! Mario and Olivia couldn't have done it without you!

[@dr.loboto1171]

Don't worry! All those other keys you found turned out to be pretty useful in their own right!

[@Goos64]

You did your best Luigi

[@oimenamesrick]

... Good luck out there.

[@justinbuddy56]

“Luigi - even when he’s right, he’s wrong” will be one of my most favorite quotes to come out of this channel

[@KorporalKReephdmkiytrecv69]

This game gave me PTSD from office supplies. I will never look at crayons the same way again.

[@dr.doofenward1192]

_Tape will haunt my dreams forever_

[@5thkiechannel]

Marine corps?

[@yeetdoggo07]

I was getting supplies for school and saw scissors i have ptsd because of final cut i t was just so stressful

[@ArceusBowser212]

@@dr.doofenward1192 OH GOD NOT THE TAPE

[@matthewberry2144]

Crayons weren't even in this game tho

[@SomeGuyXG3]

Also, rant aside, protip for all the coins in Eddy River: you can use your hammer on the boat. This will do 1 HP of damage, but it also recenters your boat anywhere, very useful if you barely miss a coin.

[@locomokuu2471]

I went the whole game without knowing this

[@SomeGuyXG3]

@@locomokuu2471 Yeah, I found out by accident, then immediately used it that next run to get all the coins (that giant whirlpool at the end was a particular sticking point before).

[@GamingEelektross]

Also helps to just suicide and start from the very beginning of the section to try again if you miss a coin and don’t care for the game over challenge.

[@-metroro-]

You can *_what_*

[@jblen]

I'm just thinking how BotW would be greatly improved by having a similar checklist kind of thing. Like it won't tell you exactly where every korok seed is, but it says there are X left in this one area or whatever. More korok seeds means more inventory, and more inventory means a better experience.

[@Zitsanrael1117]

Like they did with the Maiamais in Link Between Worlds...that came out in 2014. Seriously, how the hell did they screw that up?

[@leolhez]

With the koroks seeds specificaly, I don't think it would be too helpful. If they did that with the towers it would basically say "You have 100 left in this big area. Good luck finding them!". The areas are just too big and there are too many koroks for it to be too useful. But for other thing, like shrines, bosses or locations that would have been soooooooo useful.

[@johnjekyllson28]

You’re not supposed to find them all, and you don’t need that feature in order to max out inventory spaces.

[@commonviewer2488]

With there being 900 of the little guys, it's clear that Nintendo intended Koroks to be small rewards for exploring, and not something intended to be 100% collected.

[@leolhez]

@@commonviewer2488 Yeah, the game literaly gives a crap about you completing it. It's more about the journey than the destination.

[@MrRotceh64]

I feel like you should just say “ Go for it” when comes to games like this. To Recommend bit beyond completing it. This would help with games that tend to have a new game plus mode with changes, or dlc. And I also know few Games that are a chore to actually complete to 100% but there additional content I always would recommend that is further beyond scope of finishing it.

[@lrc4263]

Hyrule Warriors was so tedious to 100% I eventually just gave up.

[@tristenj1992]

Once again with each and every video the Completionist makes, he reconfirms over and over that being a completionist just simply is not worth it.

[@jeremyroberts8822]

TeeJay yea it really isn’t. Some games aren’t too bad to complete but for the most part it’s ridiculously repetitive and stressful. Especially in games where you have to beat it over and over and over to get everything you need

[@azurrayne4140]

The Dark Souls series should be a testament to that; no bonfires, no deaths? 2 rings to make your weapons invisible.

[@gamingawesomeness222]

This is why I'm a finipletionist

[@Lucarioguild7]

Its kinda funny the more collect-a-thon games become the less they reward people for ya know actually completing them

[@sinteleon]

@@Lucarioguild7 Though to be fair, the issue with completing Origami king is not the collect-a-thon (which is in fact the BEST part about the game) but the no-gameover-gearless-run requirement. Gearless and no-gameover should never be a completion requirement, unless it's specifically baked into the difficulty setting right at the start. Especially since unless you bake it into the difficulty setting, no-gameover can easily be subverted by resetting the game, defeating the point.

[@gideongrace1977]

You know, I really love the completionist videos. Every other review I saw of Yoshi's Crafted World said it was terrible and too easy but then Jirard said it was just fun and simple, so I tried it and it turned out to be one of my favorite games of all time. I thought this game looked bad too based on what else I'd heard, but then this video is making me want to try it. Thanks for making these videos, Jirard.

[@MystLunarabne]

Honestly, they really did an amazing job with the characters considering the limitations they had. Hopefull Nintendo can be convinced to let the series truly go back to its core though.

[@skydiamsteam6005]

I mean Intelligent Systems always has pretty clever writing

[@wooldystarman7401]

I'am a classic, and i reconize they did a wonderful job.

[@zjzr08]

I still think it's Tanabe whose doing this, seeing other Mario games lately try to shake it up more -- IMO just said it in a way that doesn't point it to him.

[@SakuraAvalon]

Doubtful. This game sold really well. So, I'm pretty sure Nintendo feels reaffirmed in their stance on forcing these limitations.

[@thrallfan1056]

@@SakuraAvalon Well on the other hand had this game done poorly Nintendo would just stop making paper Mario games altogether

[@Lugmillord]

Origami King is one of the completionist-friendliest games I have seen so far. It tells you exactly, what's required for 100% (including side stuff), it shows you per area, how much you are missing of each collectible (in percent) and gives you several helping items for finding said collectibles. It makes the majority of the completion process really enjoyable. That's a thing they did really well. Even if you hate the combat, the world exploration is fantastic. ...wait, there is a secret secret completion bonus? Huh. Well, since I didn't know and got the normal 100%, that's enough for me. I don't need those extra icons.

[@ChristopherMoom]

Completing Origami King is all fun and games... Until you find out that you have to beat the game with No Game-Overs or Accessories... conditions that the game NEVER tells you about at least it's an excuse to replay this game again because it's really good

[@persiancat8468]

Especially since there are allot of hazards that instakill you

[@persiancat8468]

@@agamer6904 yes

[@randömfiish]

@@agamer6904 i gave up asking ages ago, just stop questioning it

[@dogestep64]

@@agamer6904 I've never seen this dude once

[@Octosona]

I accidentally beat it without accessories because I didn't know what they were.

[@10thletter40]

16:55 Fudge you Eddy River minigame, difficult as fudge! I feel your pain

[@nnnneeeeuuuu]

Not one review mentioned the joke in a TURN based system where you actually turn things. It's so silly and I love it

[@shinigamimiroku3723]

It's silly from one perspective, and a giant middle finger to RPG fans from another perspective.

[@groudongamer3178]

@@shinigamimiroku3723 it's deliciously hilarious and I love it.

[@TheMetalOverlord]

But what about the joke of having useless battles that just make you lose resources and gain nothing in a battle based game?

[@stardust1271]

TheMetalOverlord that ones especially funny

[@paperluigidrivinthecar5070]

@@TheMetalOverlord Technically you'll ways make a net gain when battling in Origami King unless you screw up horrible in battle. Plus depending on someones play style it can change how rewarding battles are. I've seen people end the game with 100k coins or 10k coins. I'm also pretty dang sure since I played the game that I can say that battling isn't the core of the game. Sure it's part of the game but you will be in battles 40% of the game and that's coming from someone who enjoyed and played most battles.

[@HollywoodHomieGaming]

I really enjoyed this game, played with my 4 year old daughter. She loved ever min. When Bobby died we were both sad, but we had to keep going to keep his memories alive. It was a really fun teaching moment showing how games can tell beatiful storys that impact our lives. Great stuff Nintendo, Thanks Jiard!

[@friskydingooo7992]

The Wolf King yes dark indeed

[@timeland8343]

@The Wolf King gotta love major spoilers in the comments

[@ARCHIVED9610]

oh thats adorable 😭

[@coreymyers5321]

If the Completionist keeps his beard growing, he is going to give James Harden a run for his money.

[@zeone3000]

@Jack Black This man grows a full beard in weeks and I can't grow five o'clock shadow in five years! Genetics man...

[@RolandMIA71]

@@zeone3000 as a guy whos beard grows really fast...some times i envy ppl like you lol

[@TheSonicFan4]

Hardon is a hilarious last name

[@chrisbeach423]

TheSonicFan4 its Harden he edited the OG and fixed it lol

[@jeffrospyro4654]

Facts 😂😂😂😂💯 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnqpf2iVeNiIasU

[@joeykeilholz925]

Fighting a stapler: because unique characters aren't allowed.

[@megaman161]

It did have a banging battle song though...

[@gittonsxv126]

The disco dancing hole punch was hilarious and I damn anyone who thinks otherwise.

[@jakesteel4916]

It gave us Mario snapping the jaw of the stapler dog which is raw as hell.

[@Iron8127]

Still kinda annoyed as to why they can't. With the new rule you can't modify or add new characters. It's no excuse to not bring back the partner system as it was before nor to not bring back characters like Goombella,Bombette or even Koops. Heck, it would be awesome to see one of the Koopa Bros. to return as a party member. Mainly because they were already introduced, therefore it wouldn't be modifying nor creating a completely new character.

[@SaraNightfire1]

It's complicated. It was mentioned in the comments section of Zero Punctuation where the critic (Yahtzee, who I'm a huge fan of) that the rule states that ANY characters of the Mario genre are now not allowed to be changed. Meaning you can't add a hat to an established character, or a beard. I agree: It's a stupid rule and REALLY limits creativity. Especially when you see what they've done to Pokemon (Pikachu alone) with adding silly things. Miyamoto, who is a genius, trust me, I compare him to a God of video gaming in the same breath. Made this decision, others will take the blame, but he has the final say on what happens with the characters of Mario. I wonder if he's just too behind the times to realize how much damage this is causing for him to change. And yes, I know he had a hand in BoTW, but he loves innovation, and BoTW was practically innovated from the first step out of the cave. He would go with it just because it had some much innovation and "uniquenesss" to the series.

[@johndelkab2111]

I love the battle system because coins actually matter as a completion it’s given how expensive everything is. The ring system is fun, it can use some more variety but it’s not terrible or broken either. The game encourages you to solve the puzzle and beat the enemies in 1 turn and it’s satisfying. Boss fights are even better.

[@RPGtourguide]

Wow, I hadn’t looked into it before and this is the first I heard of those “ultra completionist” tasks for no game over’s and no battle accessories. That sucks. The fact that the game doesn’t tell you about these is frustrating too. I think I would have been fine on the game over’s if it weren’t for the coin-collecting on the rapids section. :/ I’ll be fine with my “almost” completionist rank, thanks.

[@MagnusvonYoshi]

Someone did bring up the two Illusory rings from Dark Souls 2. One of them was for beating the game with no deaths, the other for beating the game with no save points.

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

@@MagnusvonYoshi oh...oh no

[@MagnusvonYoshi]

@Ray Brudbary They make your right hand and left hand weapons invisible. I forget which ring is which hand.

[@propheticrain-maker1486]

@@MagnusvonYoshi no bonfires = right hand and no deaths = left hand.

[@steam-powereddolphin5449]

Is it a viable strategy to quit and reload the game if you think you're about to lose?

[@Shaprite]

I didn't know about that "true" secret ending.

[@ToxicPea]

Wow that second section of the video discussing how the game was focused on people rather than individual persons was pure genius. Great work, even though I'm many months late after having just finished the game.

[@hannahbrennan2131]

I actually really like this game. The battle system is a bit of a pain since I'm really bad at big-picture type puzzles, but that doesn't ruin the overall experience for me.

[@Junotrigger]

I had to look up how to beat almost every boss💀

[@Junotrigger]

@@moonsoon1038 Well, that’s what I tried to do. I’m not the type of guy who wants to wants too play the game while having to look up guides every 20 minutes, but this game had me doing that a lot. Still loved it though

[@WhiteHeroAlex]

The secret challenges frustrated me, too. I somehow went through my entire first playthrough without a single game over, and got the gold heart for it, which I smiled at. Then I learned about the no battle accessories challenge and about threw my Switch out the window.

[@petwisk2012]

1:33 i got scared when Jirard screamed trully upset at the Guy Laughing in the background, It was the most genuine demostration of anger i ever seen in this Channel

[@rob51design]

I really like the production and editing on this one!

[@BeatleJWOL]

Missed opportunity: Paper Ted

[@Koroguru]

Paper Ted Talk

[@noxprobxrob3877]

I'm sorry you had to deal with that surprise, man. I am genuinely glad to hear that you enjoyed the game. I get tired of hearing people throw nothing but complaints at games that are really quite good. Thank you.

[@w00tyd00d]

5:51 Silly Jirard, it's pronounced "Boh" like, you know...the bows she wears in her ears lol

[@kaexewires7531]

... I thought she had cat ears... god I'm so dumb

[@VerdeMorte]

@@kaexewires7531 There's a Playboy style one wearing a cat ears hairband in the shop next to the casino in the second game... And she works for the mafia too...

[@hurt4322]

@@kaexewires7531 furry boo ... furry boo

[@Pmf95k]

VerdeMorte playboy bow. Damn that was the best part of ttyd

[@VerdeMorte]

@Zachary Erickson There's more than one hostess Boo, one in the Casino and another in the shop, each have different ear hairbands.

[@L337M4573RK]

Aside from the 2 "secret" completion achievements, this game was visually stunning, musically entertaining, and absolutely charming (though sometimes challenging) to play! Some of the best parts of the game include Autumn Mountain/Shogun Studios, Bob-bomb's Sacrifice, and the groovy Disco Dance cut-scene. (Note: if you have not updated to the latest version, there's at least one extremely game-busting glitch that can completely stop your current progress, and force you to completely erase your save file and completely start the whole game over due to how severe it is! What's worse is that this glitch can occur roughly 70-75% into your overall play-through, which means that the potential amount of progress you could end up losing is absolutely soul-crushing!)

[@luiginumbers6268]

o7 For Bobby

[@stripedrajang3571]

Nintendo made the patch for it not too long after launch. Like a week or two after launch.

[@L337M4573RK]

@@stripedrajang3571 Hence why I mentioned that "if you have not updated to the latest version...".

[@stripedrajang3571]

@@L337M4573RK, I see. My bad.

[@an3582]

Nintendo: We hear the fans, we just assume theyre absolutely wrong about what they want.

[@CimyrRazely]

More like- Nintendo: We hear the fans, we just don’t care. You’ll buy the game anyway.

[@yeettm8014]

Fans could be different depending on which type of game they want. Some like the newer games, some like the older games. While it could be disheartening to hear that’s its not what it used to be maybe things could’ve been different if they didn’t have the restrictions since stickerstar.

[@an3582]

@@CimyrRazely Sad but True, most people do that. I didnt buy Pokemon S&S, I was so hopeful about this one and nope, not getting it either.

[@groudongamer3178]

@@CimyrRazely this primarily applies to gamefreak if anything.

[@felipe_drawmania1604]

@@lilylopnco And It STILL doesn't explain the lack of RPG mechanics In the past 3 games.

[@Drewsefer89]

What I love about the Paper Mario series are the fun stories, witty characters & lush worlds. And I personally feel Paper Mario the Origami King nailed all 3 of these aspects. I had a blast playing through the game. I absolutely loved collecting all the Toads. So much fun! And I thought the combat system was very unique & quite challenging at times. For me Origami King is amongst the best in the series.

[@rem5779]

I had a blast playing through the game. It's one of my favorite Paper Mario games. I'm okay with the game changing & evolving throughout the series.

[@ducla3945]

@@rem5779 don't jinx it man, last thing we want is the series going backwards again, but don't be surprise is some of these features in that game will return paper Mario returns for The Nintendo Switch sequel.

[@Hercules_Flexing]

Also I low-key was hoping that Jirard’s beard would be origami in the thumbnaill haha

[@lerm8433]

I think the characterization in Origami king was actually handled really well, where instead of having a handful of characters bursting with personality to offset the ocean of lifeless ones, this game gave every base character an interesting personality.

[@hotcocoabomb_]

Me just sitting here playing paper mario 64 for the 1st time

[@heathbrook6065]

I just started paper Mario 64 myself. I’ve got every paper Mario and I haven’t started one haha.

[@giygas_9577]

I actually played through that one twice in the past few weeks. One was before I decided to do a Mario 35th anniversary marathon, and the other was after I had decided to do that.

[@thewonderblunder3421]

In my opinion the best one (to replay).

[@LauraLowe]

Ok Henry Stickmin from Breaking the Bank, Escaping the Prison, Stealing the Diamond, Infiltrating the Airship, Fleeing the Complex, and The Henry Stickmin Collection

[@thecommenter578]

The best in the series

[@exeledusprince9165]

I just 100% the game yesterday, and now I learn that I actually didnt?!? UGH.....

[@chickennoodlegamer915]

Good thing I learned about the secret achievements before I went for the 100%, I was able to delete my save and replay it without losing much progress

[@rekc_bcq4816]

You know I feel that these changes aren’t bad in themselves, but they have moved so far from the original I feel like it makes more sense to have made it a new series entirely. There are some people who say this is their favorite Paper Mario game. I’m happy that they enjoy it. I think the problem is that comparing the old and new games are like comparing apples to oranges. The focuses are completely different. Your preference is more a matter of what type of game you prefer, not which game did it best. To be honest I could be speaking out of my butt here because I’ve never beat a Paper Mario game, but I have enough of an understanding to be able to analyze why everything has played out the way it has. I think it would have been great if they established a new series with a focus on innovation and kept this series focused on the formula that people loved so much.

[@gavenmiller]

I hope that they can at least make a new series so we can have both styles. I mean Sticker Star and Color Splash had flaws in general game design regardless of what the previous games did. But they've been removed for the most part. But having a series alongside the new style isnt a bad idea in my opinion

[@ArceusBowser212]

Origami King is my favorite Paper Mario game, as I couldn't play TTYD or 64 because of not having those consoles. I also never bought Super Paper Mario.

[@gavenmiller]

@@ArceusBowser212 Same

[@wiiuandmii7619]

It's like comparing apples and oranges: Both are goddamn delicious.

[@johndelkab2111]

The only real thing the original games have over how well done of a game Origami King is, is just Original Characters and an exp system. Both of which can be improved into a Origami King sequel. There doesn’t need to be a split.

[@pan2504]

I didn’t know about those extra “no game over” “no accessories” stuff, now I feel bad, some day I will replay it and truly complete PD: nice draw jirad PPD: I hate shy guy finish last challenge

[@GeorgeMarionerd]

Remember guys, it's ok to like whichever games you like, just don't belittle people who like the ones you don't.

[@jakk9560]

Yes thank you

[@jakk9560]

@The Wolf King yes of cores my good fellow

[@Seth_Hezekiah]

Except twilight fans. U can hate them. Lol

[@GeorgeMarionerd]

@The Wolf King Indeed. I did mean that too. I actually like all the Paper Mario games, even Sticker star.

[@Seth_Hezekiah]

@The Wolf King uhhh, I don't know who that is and I don't watch batman stuff so?

[@todangtall]

If you want some classic Paper Mario goodness, you should check out Citizens of Space. It's the very underrated sequel to Citizens of Earth. Which is a very underrated love letter to Earthbound.

[@matthewmagnani2915]

Bug Fables says hi, too!

[@w33aboojones]

I'm so glad that I wasn't the only one that called Bow "Bow" as in bowing to someone and not the thing that is on her head that she's obviously named after when you think about it lol.

[@IfrloveCoCoMelon]

Imo origami king is amazing . The combat system is nice since you actually have to use your head and think strategic. The story is great , the music is absolutely amazing and the main/side characters are likeable. The locations are cool and in total - I love and recomend this game to everyone who wants to have a fun time and hours of enjoyable gameplay . ( I feel like most ppl hate this game because of the strategic aspect and the puzzles)

[@jamescanjuggle]

I was sold the second the trees started singing like "Grease"

[@discoron77]

When I saw that Toad mention a "completionist" I couldn't wait for this video!

[@Cheeto-sf4xy]

This game was surprisingly good, and actually quite heart warming

[@mugfan9779]

I am so glad that this game is getting the positive feedback it is. I loved this game, but I was afraid that like the last 2 games before it, the fans would totally overshadow anybody who thought they were good.

[@deadaccount2968]

8:37 This would be more impactful if several times throughout the Paper Mario games bob-ombs didn't come back after blowing up. What makes bob-ombs like Bobby different from Bombette and Bobbery?

[@ShadwSonic]

That's my point exactly! At the same time, it's a real shame that IS the case, because I can see how meaningful it would've felt had that precedent not been established. What tips it over to "wrong" in my eyes is that they still could've come up with an explanation that worked (size of the explosion, certain Bob-ombs being Elites, an issue with the fuse being lost then reattatched...). Even if I didn't like the justification that much, I would've appreciated the attempt at continuity. But nope, let's just pretend this was never brought up before.

[@staticchimera44]

@@ShadwSonic 1) It's a different universe, you can't assume that there will be any continuity between games. 2) Bobby is a factory made bob-omb, whereas Bobbery and Bombette are organic bob-ombs. Factory made bob-ombs are made with one purpose, and one purpose alone. To explode, and to be replaced. They didn't act like it was never brought up before, the explanation was always there.

[@Cerebrum123]

This and the fact that even Bowser minion Bob-ombs can regenerate(just not in one battle due to game mechanics) it makes the whole thing come off as cheap emotional manipulation. The "he's just a factory made Bob-omb!" is a rationalization that doesn't fit when you know the previous games had them survive explosions just fine. They even have them in a little parade at the end of Paper Mario 64 where at the end they wave at you with their little arms.

[@TwilightYonder720]

"Factory made Bob-Omb and organic Bob-Omb" These aren't real/canon just head canon to avoid the retcon

[@deadaccount2968]

@@staticchimera44 It's part of the Paper Mario series. Unless it states otherwise, all the PM games happen in the same universe. It's like saying that each mainline Mario game is a separate universe. It makes no sense. I mean, it makes no sense either way, but still. "Bobby is a factory made bob-omb, whereas Bobbery and Bombette are organic bob-ombs. Factory made bob-ombs are made with one purpose, and one purpose alone. To explode, and to be replaced. " Where is this ever said? Why not just have a bunch of "organic" bob-ombs that are loyal and can keep blowing up again and again rather than mass produce them? Why even give them personalities if they *only* exist to blow up and be replaced? Bowser is egotistical, but he's not stupid. It would cost way more to mass produce than just feed and house the explosion resistant ones. "Factory made" bob-ombs make less and less sense the more you think about.

[@mrchinosofexodar]

"Pay to win" takes a whole new meaning

[@tomo8940]

Something is up with Nintendo with giving the game that many restrictions.

[@channelremoved32]

it's probably just some shady committee somewhere in nintendo whose job is to keep mario's brand consistent. in practice though this kinda just means preventing developers from doing whatever they like

[@tomo8940]

@@channelremoved32 It kinda feels like Nintendo is trying to make their own version of the Minions from Despicable Me with the Toads being everywhere. Would make sense since they're moving on to movies and theme parks...

[@realsteel6092]

Honestly I personally don't like many of the games you complete, but the way you script everything just draws me to it. Good job!

[@evanmarcus5975]

Holy crap. Jirard got almost as many toads here as he did Koroks in Breath of the Wild.

[@collinmiller4721]

So happy that Jirard understands what makes this game a work of art. That note about the game being about “people” just encapsulated so much of why I think the story and those that inhabit it works.

[@iOmen]

That Donkey Kong remix SLAPPPED AT THE END i want it it sounds so good

[@xthriteenx]

You realize you need to die at least once to 100% the game

[@RosieUniverseKitten]

“Toads are the main collectible” well that’s interesting

[@radioffIine]

I think the funniest thing about the extra completionist rewards is that I remained cautious during my playthrough to avoid infamous cases of an unreachable toad barring you from the game’s 100% reward or a glitch in Shangri-Spa that basically softlocked your whole save file. Then by the time I receive the game’s vanilla completionist reward, I find out that the “real” route towards completion is to restart from the very beginning of the game so that I can 100% it yet again but without getting any game overs or equipping any battle accessories. This punch-in-the-gut of a revelation is about as painful as if I had ever wound up having to restart the entire game for any of the other aforementioned circumstances.

[@finngolding9506]

“Stop laughing at m-“ I died 🤣🤣🤣

[@nolan2027]

They say with every game he completes his beard grows bigger

[@militantpacifist4087]

The only thing I didn’t like about this game was the battle system.

[@kamiotamega5317]

I liked it for the bosses but not the enemies And fuck the puzzles like the olly fight for example

[@morningbowl3156]

I actually liked it, it felt me feel like a smarty pants

[@blahblahgamer827]

@Jack Black its not?

[@dwdadevil]

All of these are baby puzzles, until shy guy challenge level 3

[@morningbowl3156]

gabsr I wouldn’t say baby puzzles tbh

[@mercyscene]

This video's intro was the most hilarious Completionist intro I've ever seen! Great job Jirard!

[@aruwaurachi9649]

Your french prononciation was actually pretty good - a random french dude

[@lowkey-making-stuff]

6:14 that was the most effective jumpscare in my live

[@maybetoby]

We need an HD remake of The Thousand Year Door.

[@TheCC0807]

I've owned the game for so long and I love it and thought I did everything, but when I heard there was a no death achievement after 3 years of its release just shows how stupid it is that there is no hints towards that goal.

[@J05Youtube]

I wonder when Jirard will finally review Sticker Star... if he ever does lol.

[@kamiotamega5317]

You mean the only irredeemable paper mario (the only thing good is the gfx but hard to screw that up)

[@Invidente7]

@@kamiotamega5317 you can thank shigeru miyamoto for that

[@sinteleon]

@@kamiotamega5317 Wasn't the music good too?

[@kamiotamega5317]

@@sinteleon yes

[@bobafett4265]

@@Invidente7 classic the reason why Paper Mario is in the state it's in right now...

[@andresacosta7885]

You should play Bug Fables. It’s a very good tribute to the original 2 Paper Mario games

[@matthewmagnani2915]

I second that!

[@MrNitron87]

Wow it's been a looooooong time since I've been in the first 100 views,mlove your content jirard, you inspire the way I play games

[@weelolol]

Completionists: "Oh man I have to beat this game without dying even once? Well it's only a kids game so it should be possible." Scissors: "Hey."

[@liviekumori]

The soundtrack of this game is amazing

[@thechocolatearmor5797]

Ikr it reminds me of studio Ghibli so I always get nostalgic for it lol

[@xenghuong]

I hate people that keep bashing the game for not being another TTYD and not seeing the game for what it is, but I honestly can't blame them too much as well. Consumers LOVED all the new characters that the old Paper Mario games had. Seeing a side character like Bomb-omb just being Bomb-omb is such a shame.

[@chrisazylum6624]

"I think Paper Mario might be my Sonic The Hedgehog." -Yahtzee,Zero Punctuation

[@savage4242]

It's so true. I'm the same :(

[@kaexewires7531]

@@savage4242 same ;D;

[@chrisazylum6624]

@@savage4242 O O F

[@chrisazylum6624]

@@kaexewires7531 O O F

[@LittleMissZackyVee]

sonic isnt bad tho.

[@ketherga]

Origami King is probably as good as this format of Paper Mario can get. But that's still miles below TTYD.

[@seanc7342]

"Story telling remained solid overall" shows footage of sticker star 😶😶😶😶

[@F-ZERO]

That completion roadblock mirrors what they did in Super Mario 3DLand where you essentially couldn't use the Super Tanuki Leaf when you completed a stage

[@Goated_NickEh30]

Casual Viewer: Yeah. Good video. Me: *At **1:37** you forgot the number of the game in the bottom right!*

[@waynemidnight7454]

13:26 this Toad took me much longer than it should have to find! Even with the Toad Radar!

[@gamejoe490]

I would defend this game with my life

[@christian0h]

I'm doing no Death or Battle accessories run rn and the only real problem is being paranoid that you didn't home fast enough and the death still counted, or that tracker accessories go against the qualifications for the special ending. That means if your suspicion turns out true, all you did on this second run was useless.

[@alurimel]

To me, whenever a sequel of a beloved series comes out, and the reviewer has to make a big speech about how the game is not as good as the ones past it because it's a different era, or that it's just as good and people are just blinded by nostalgia, the game is just not good enough. Take Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey for example, when those came out, no reviewer started their reviews by saying we had to overlook certain aspects of the game because they were trying to do something new with it, or that we had to be more tolerant with them because they will never be as good as the ones that came before. They started their reviews by praising how much of a good game those titles were, bringing new things to the table but still managing to be fun and bring that sense of familiarity to the fans, while drawing in new people. When you have to patronise yourself into liking a game, just admit it, the game is just not good enough

[@Aaaa-g6u8e]

This is exactly what I was getting the impression while I was watching the first 10 minutes. I was expecting Jirad to give the viewers his analysis about 100% the game, but instead he starts off by preaching about the game's good and strongest qualities, and how every sequel has something to give to everyone. That's a warning sign right there.

[@TwilightYonder720]

He really tried to oversell some aspects too like the "people" speech was just looking too much into it, the Toads are just collectibles and the Mario RPG's have done the 'On brake' Bowser minions jokes a lot before this game

[@Cerebrum123]

@@TwilightYonder720 He also has to seriously downplay the first three games and how it went pretty in depth into most NPC back stories and their motivations. You not only got to talk to them for what they would say, but learn more about them by using the Tattle system.

[@st4pl3]

I would say this is specific to Paper Mario, though, since it really has changed genre. Zelda and Mario are pretty well defined, and the main games don't really stray too far from each other. Paper Mario has specifically built a fanbase around the first two games, and the modern ones may be good, but they're different. It'd be like if the next Zelda game was a 2d platformer, and it was a really good 2d platformer, but Zelda has never had that as a core idea. We must distinguish Origami King from its predecessors to fully analyze it. Naturally, if you're a TTYD stan, then the merit of Origami King is based on how similar those two games are, and they are not. However, it has good qualities that feel genuine to a Paper Mario game, and I don't think that should be overlooked.

[@SnippyDoughnut]

@White-Van Helsing breath of the wild was shit? my dude, no lol

[@leobochicchio3199]

As a theatre kid, I'd just like to say I appreciate your little acting/comedy bits, they're always good and funny!

[@bait1021]

Obligatory "Bobery was in Thousand Year door as well."

[@porky1118]

That's the first time I hear about "The Ring System" in a non-Sonic context

[@DonWafle]

It's not even a minute and I'm laughing my ass off 😆😆😆😆

[@CascadeHope]

I’m very glad I found out about the ‘secret achievements’ early on in my playthrough. I found out just after failing a couple times in Eddy River and seeing a video that mentioned secret achievements. After hearing about them, I did restart the file and it took about 3-4 hours to get back to that point.

[@MrToujang]

Me: Depressed because I got a single game over when I beat the game. Olivia: *Laughs in Chain Chomp*

[@shot-gi6mr]

This highlights one of the important questions of game devepment. If you add a bonus for completing difficult challenges, you force completionists to do unresonable tasks, but if you don't, then the people who put themselves through these challenges are don't are left without a reward.

[@majorxapocalypse]

I agreed with you on everything for the fact that I also went through the processes just find out I didn’t actually 100% the game. I was just in awe by the environments and music. While I missed the unique characters, I loved the unique personalities. The writers did well to give the game life to a beautiful shell of a game. What I didn’t like was the unpausible/unresetable areas that required a little more time to get the trophies for, and the vast open areas that i wish had more thought in them. I also feel the ending was rushed just a tad. Also why put in achievements that make us not use aspects of the game that make the game more bearable and fun? Other than that I feel Nintendo held the development team back this time.

[@ryugaknight]

How funny, I was just watching your Thousand Year door video.

[@KittyKatty999]

"We're not allowed to create new characters that effect the Mario universe" *Creates SENTIENT ORIGAMI* Miyamoto isn't just oppressive and out of touch with what people want, he's also a massive hypocrite.

[@OneAndZer0]

Placing limitations on creating something isn't oppressive. "Limitations breed creativity" is literally something my music teacher taught us. Gamers are such a whiney bunch. This was the best Paper Mario game in years. It's not perfect, but a lot of fans consider it at least good. How is creating something that fans enjoy out of touch with what they want? Because it's not exactly what you want?

[@maglevwhale5951]

@@OneAndZer0 TTYD fans can be a really toxic bunch. See r/papermario for my proof.

[@hamidmehrdad5805]

Maglev Whale ikr it’s the worst they are some of the most toxic fans I’ve seen and that’s saying something considering how many groups there are.

[@Kirby950]

@@OneAndZer0 not to mention limitations is where Nintendo shined throughout its history

[@valentai_777]

Man who would’ve thought that ppl who actually hardcore fanboy over PAPER MARIO games would be toxic weirdos Crazy surprise

[@tomb411]

I never played the retro paper mario (wii and prior entries) AND I love the writing and humour in the recent titles. I love how it's a less intense "rpg" since I already have too many hardcore games on my hand already. I found COlour SPlash extremely satisfying to 100% with the colour hammer and am looking forward to playing this game!

[@Thorrison]

I haven't played this game yet, but boy that battle system looks unfun.

[@MoonPsychic]

It's a unique take on battling involving puzzle-solving and lining the enemies if you enjoy these types of battles then more power to you but if they look un-enjoyable to you that's ok

[@Fi___]

Just hold Y

[@Howitchewstofeel5gum]

I liked it in the beginning but it got very annoying towards the end of the game and actually made me avoid battles more than anything

[@thatoneguyontheinternet9765]

I have almost 100% the game and I gotta say the battle system is really fun!

[@IamtheWalrus43]

I developed a love/hate relationship with the battle system by the end of my playthrough. I enjoyed it overall though. Sometimes I found myself going into battles just to hear the music. The soundtrack for this game is too notch!

[@DaveReviewsThings]

Yessss I've been waiting for this episode! I had the week after release of this game off due to covid and I flew through it and loved it so much

[@theguitarhero649]

Holy shit, I didn't even know about the secret completion thing. I thought I'd 100%'d weeks ago lol

[@brodericksmith4588]

I gotta say I am loving the new style/format of The Completionist videos

[@JackAttackgamingXD]

This is game is actually one of the best "return to form" game I've seen since Mario Sunshine to Oddesey and even tho Galaxy 1 is a masterpiece and Galaxy 2 is absolute perfection without any flaws (EXCEPT THE PERFECT RUN) they did feel linear

[@harribo2323]

​@@moonsoon1038i think that they meant super mario odyssey was the first mario game of that style since sunshine

[@goldenyoshistar1]

I wonder what they would do if they added DLC. Maybe more streamers with more colors, maybe using the same locations that are already there.

[@Xetheon]

But would that fit with the story?

[@goldenyoshistar1]

@@Xetheon honestly, that is a hard thing to say. It depends on what they do. For example, they could have King Olly Right before you see the Origami Castle release more streamers blocking your way a second time. He wouldn't move the castle but you'd be forced to jump back into the pipe in the pipe zone. Olivia will make note that more streamers have arrived and that to get to King Olly again, we have to defeat the New Legion that has arose to stop King Olly. They could do 3 streamer in White, Black, and Orange. And for locations keep the same world, but add more to specific parts, like have a streamer be inside the Forest in the first area, but have it be deeper into the spooky part of the forest. Another could be deep into the ocean on a massive island where it gives you a sense of Deja-vu. Finally, the third streamer could be up in the sky or maybe in space. The new legion could be other office supplies with newer personalities, and heck, maybe even have a mini-boss or even have a new Vellumental. (Thunder Vellumental)

[@Xetheon]

@@goldenyoshistar1 Black streamer is origami castle, even though it's no streamer. How would fast travel pipes work? The new legion could be: 1: glue 2: crayon 3: (I have no idea...) How would people thinking: oh this dlc is too hard wait how do I refight olly without getting rid of the new streamers? (Maybe he would be stronger after the streamers and you could refight him through the bossotronic) Space sounds far fetched, maybe a extended version of Shangri spa? (Castle gone)

[@Xetheon]

Also thunder velumental is cool, but how would it work?

[@goldenyoshistar1]

@@Xetheon i thought of going back into the Forest and having a Haunted mansion making a reference to the original game, and then having the boss of the area a Giant eraser. King Boo could be in the mansion but just like the toads of the area who have their faces and bodies erased. Similar to Hole Punch.