When the Soviet Navy Lost 16 Admirals in a Single Accident: The Tu-104 Crash at Pushkin

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The plane crash at Pushkin airfield on February 7, 1981 became the very last accident in the Tupolev Tu-104 history, after which they were permanently retired from service. But the main reason the disaster at Pushkin airfield went down in history was because this single crash had almost entirely beheaded the Soviet Pacific Fleet. That day, in just a few seconds, the Soviet Navy lost 16 admirals and generals, including the commander of the Pacific Fleet admiral Emil Spiridonov.
Chapters:
00:00 - 7 February 1981
02:48 - Pushkin
05:06 - War?
07:23 - Main Suspect
09:17 - Black Box
13:11 - "Sausage Plane"
16:54 - Printing Paper
21:40 - Serving on Duty
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[@PaperSkiesAviation]

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[@arnfinnhanssen780]

😅😅😅😅

[@lightningmcqueen181]

Tyrannical Leadership is all the Russian People have ever Known!

[@lostalone9320]

Admiral - "Oh god literally all my friends have died in a horrific accident." KGB - "Pretty convenient accident for you, eh comrade?"

[@concept5631]

*_Later_* KGB: _"Oh fuck this is embarassing."_

[@JoelJames2]

Imma be real, I don’t think they were friends.

[@Seegster77]

I was just thinking that while watching this. What if you tried to warn people of how potentially dangerous it would be to lose this many officers simply because they all went on one plane. They would probably suspect you were the saboteur.

[@hankscorpio6111]

@@Seegster77 Which is why he stated that Russians don't necessarily think logically.. Or I guess what is considered to be logical.

[@federationmedia9117]

Moon colony recruits. Jovian. Textbook fake news. Mine, I think.

[@utpalninjajedi]

"you're not going to believe this. He killed 16 admirals singlehandedly. Guy was an interior decorator"

[@PharaohDeathMask]

"His house looked like shit". The Sopranos...

[@Vegito_Fanpage]

@@JustindeEugeneWhyIQuitDeMonRat jesus man could you shut up? What are you even talking about? You've said roughly the same comment 3 times and none are relevant at all.

[@mistereggway9141]

@@JustindeEugeneWhyIQuitDeMonRat you don't have to speak in porn bot my dude

[@visionist7]

Right now we're just two assholes lost in the woods

[@sohamchandiwade9954]

Now go see your shrink

[@theamericanpotatonamedphil4306]

The Soviet path to learning what went wrong. 1. It was the enemy 2. It was sabotage 3. Okay maybe it was just built bad If Stalin is still alive skip step three and start executing officers

[@vovinio2012]

Move IQ9000: they were executed by themselves xD

[@JoshSweetvale]

But first: 0. "It _wasn't_ a KGB scheme?! Then we'd better get to work!"

[@shadownight9956]

Holy shit that's just how it works here in IRAN except we do not have one stalin we have the whole complex of them Islamic extremists and add a fourth one 4.forget all three happened our elections every 4 years will fix that and then repeat every process

[@snooks5607]

4. Or maybe it was drunken egocentric a-holes accustomed to systemic corruption who thought their self-importance could negate the effect of physics on their overblown shopping habits

[@darrylbunch6929]

In America we blame it on marsh gas.

[@origamichik3n]

I once tried to explain to my friend from UK the Soviet concept of "deficit goods". I don't think he was fully convinced that in a country, that officially boasted massive production numbers of pretty much everything (reports of "completing 5 year plan in 4 years" were a norm), even everyday goods like clothing and shoes were a "deficit". If you did not have connections, you would apply for the opportunity to buy a car or an apartment, and then wait for years. One of my childhood memories, that i find difficulty convincing my Western friends was true, is in fact connected to toilet paper. I grew up in a small town. My grandmother lived in a bigger one 200km away. It was mid-to-late 80s and we were visiting her during summer vacation, when my mother, very agitated, came back from downtown and demanded that me and my brother come with her. The toilet paper was available! But it was only sold one package per person. So we waited for many hours in queue in the middle of a large alley in scorching sun to get three packs of toilet paper. Mind you, even in late 80s the quality of toilet paper in Soviet Union was appalling. It was coarse, it had poor absorption and it even had large wood chunks. But we still bought as much as we were allowed to. Because in Soviet Union, self titled as greatest country in the world, one would buy even the most basic stuff not when they needed it, but whenever it was available.

[@michaeltovey02607]

My wife visited a store in East Germany. As a westerner with hard currency she could buy some items but, if you were a card carrying vip, there was an area screened off from the public, where a much wider range of goods was available. Communism at work …..

[@yarpen26]

Any kid growing up in the '90s in the former block could not even set their teeth in an orange without hearing their parents moan how this stuff simply wasn't available when they were that age... It was the equivalent of the "my walk to school used to take ten miles, you ungrateful brat" talk.

[@jj4791]

Bernie Sanders of Vermont said of Soviet bread lines; "At least they had bread"...

[@hugoguerreiro1078]

@@jj4791 I've had multiple communists tell me that in America people starve, while in the Soviet they had breadlines, so people would be better fed than in the US. I kid you not, this one guy tried to convince me that according to this CIA report he found online the average Soviet was better fed than the average American. Some of them have also pointed to the great depression as proof that in capitalist countries people starve just like in communist nations.

[@igorlukyan206]

@@michaeltovey02607 all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. Fuck communism

[@mortache]

20:30 "A nose-heavy plane flies poorly, a tail-heavy plane flies once." is something we use as a rule of thumb in R/C plane hobby.

[@tungsten2009]

lol yeah

[@pedrocesarsakihara1853]

So thats why i am so bad at making planes in ksp

[@tungsten2009]

Haha you have the same problem aswell

[@nobeltnium]

@@pedrocesarsakihara1853 you need MOAR POWER!!!!

[@Kurz_Weber]

"Wait up - I need to load on 1 tonne of Printing paper rolls just quickly."

[@BrokenWingsDarkAngel]

I think it's obvious what really happened: the plane just couldn't handle the weight of all the medals.

[@extremelycareless2541]

Love it! Freakin savage!

[@LaneCorbett]

Lmao Accurate

[@zzuu6041]

Generals: we are made this Pilot his Carrer he would be known in history to fly 16 generals Pilot: im gona end these Generals carrers Tupolev: gona end this Mans Carrer Soviet Union to last remaining general: gona end this mans carrer Enemy: gona end this mans carrer Moral of the story in Mother Russia carrer ends you Enemy: dies this comment?

[@LaneCorbett]

@@zzuu6041 In Capitalist America Military High Camand use many plane very inefficient! In Communist USSR High Camand use one plane most efficiently!

[@thehoodedteddy1335]

Or their egos.

[@DIABETOR]

Really poignantly spoken at the end when he essentially said “people at high levels of power are often so corrupt that they believe they can defy not only the laws of man, but also the laws of physics”

[@Asmallcorneroftheinternet]

I don't think there can be anything more wholesome than the phrase: "His love for his daughter saved his life."

[@gamer749]

The admirals finally found something they could not order around. Physics.

[@ahmedsaadsabit1749]

physics major nods in agreement

[@catnip202xch.]

@@ahmedsaadsabit1749 the only thing that ordered physicists and engineers are ddls

[@sheek3222]

They may have been nice people

[@michaelt.5672]

@@ahmedsaadsabit1749 Now THAT is a pun of absolute beauty.

[@user-fn2mx6dd5k]

@@sheek3222 they were commies And rusian Ain't no way

[@SynchroScore]

"This would be hilarious, if not for all the people who died." -- Reaction to many events in Soviet history

[@SynchroScore]

@fuckyoutubepolicy staff Joseph Stalin died in 1953. This accident occurred in 1981. Also, that username is pretty immature, don't you think?

[@nobilesnovushomo58]

@@SynchroScore soviet leadership tended to learn a lot from Stalin. Towards the end the implicit leadership of the Soviet union was in the KGB, who had all the information. Both of you aren’t wrong, but both of you aren’t quite right. Putin is also a former KGB head, and was made the head of Russia through his skills. While our military just put out a “two mothers ad” that I’m told by an ex KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov interview in the 80s called “ deception was my job” was a part of a KGB program of “ideological subversion” through “active measures” *Don’t underestimate how much the Soviet union learned or mimicked Stalin pertaining to both external and domestic doctrines.*

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

*Russian History

[@SynchroScore]

@@nobilesnovushomo58 Yes, unfortunately there are quite a bit of people in the US who have fallen for Russian-sponsored propaganda, enabling Putin's ultimate goal of discrediting democracy.

[@SynchroScore]

@@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 I suppose that's also true, yes. The fate of the Russian Baltic Fleet, for example. Sailed the long way round Africa and Egypt (shooting up some British fishing trawlers on the way) only to get sunk at Tsushima.

[@KermitEFrog-nv7dv]

I'd like to imagine the Pilot at least got an "I told you so" moment as the plane rolled over

[@randomhuman5525]

The pilot said exactly: Cyka Blyaaaaaaaaatttt

[@jello_cudgel9213]

“To servicemen who died while doing groceries”. 😂 There really should be a special medal for this often overlooked and under appreciated form of heroism.

[@MarvinT0606]

The lesson here is that once you step onboard a plane, no matter your rank, you're just a passenger. The pilot's word is law.

[@HanSolo__]

Tell this to the Polish president Lech Kaczynski who ordered landing in the worst conditions possible - doing that he killed himself and more than 100 people. This and his empty pride of taking top-ranked army leaders and lots of important politicians as an entourage of the leader

[@davidh7246]

And physics is the blind judge.

[@samiamrg7]

+Han Solo And that accident was also in a Tupolev product; the Tu-154, which was introduced in 1972 making it positively GERIATRIC in 2010 when that crash happened.

[@jonathanrice1070]

Lol, okay. So the pilot is going to obey the orders of his/her commanding officer flying onboard? Utter nonsense.

[@visionist7]

@@samiamrg7 hardly. Would you call a 767 geriatric? It was introduced about as long ago

[@ryanrusch3976]

"86% of the Russian people thought that the Soviet Union was the greatest time Russia has ever had... however only 28% of them would return to the Soviet-style of government." Aint that a kick in the head.

[@troodon1096]

Reminds me of a joke: "Any Russian that doesn't miss the Soviet Union has no heart. Any Russian that wants it back has no brain."

[@shafwandito4724]

@@troodon1096 Putin mention it few times during QnA session too. "Soviet Union times were great, but if you ask me if I want Soviet Union to be back? I would say no" P.S: Putin confess he dislike Soviet even though he is a former KGB agent. Which is very interesting.

[@FBC_14]

@@shafwandito4724 That is a very interesting information. Do you remember where or when he said that?

[@shafwandito4724]

@@FBC_14 it's an old video I found. It's from RT channel if I remember.

[@novat9731]

@@troodon1096 An understandable opinion to have. Even watching the video, you can explain why. On one hand you have all of the truly impressive achievements of the Soviet Union, which cannot be denied. First satellite in space and first man in space, very impressive achievements for all manking. But then you also have the first toilet paper factory opening in 1969. So yes, it's easy to get caught up in the spirit of things, knowing that your nation is at the absolute forefront of scientific discovery. Then it lasts for a week or two, and then you sit on the 800km train journey to Moscow to buy some sausages and maybe a few rolls of low quality toilet paper.

[@RobJaskula]

Putting Gorshkov in charge of the navy was one of Khrushchev's wisest moves, and keeping him there on of Brezhev's. He built up a modern, three-fleet blue water navy while working through THAT system and bureaucracy. No surprise that it immediately began to fall apart after him.

[@ChrisLove887]

I recently watched the Chernobyl series and they do a very good job of portraying the fear people have when talking to a superior. It’s amazing that a government could even be run in a manner like that.

[@user-nw8pp1cy8q]

It couldn't. USSR dissolved because of such style of government.

[@mkey570]

@@user-nw8pp1cy8q The Soviet Union dissolved because Stalin wasn't immortal. He was why things worked as long as it did, everyone was terrified of his disproval.

[@SKa-tt9nm]

@@mkey570you are a morоn.

[@jefife750]

Ours really isnt far behind. It is after all, immolating the Soviet model.

[@ledeyabaklykova]

That severely inflexible autocratic governing style does not last long in the running of a country. Running a top aggressive corporation in Japan, France, US, and most everywhere else, however, requires this kind of dictatorial governance.✊🏽

[@dierkrieger]

I used to work with an old Soviet pilot here in San Diego and the man had some cool stories. I remember when I asked him what it was like to work in the Soviet Union and he said that they pretended to pay us and we pretended to work.

[@mehmetgurdal]

Ahahahahah this is basically the life of a Turkish employee right now :D

[@peacebewu]

Legend lol

[@lucaskp16]

is like me here in argentina i only make 400$ a month but also only work 2 hours a day.

[@_UCS_SwapnilSahaiSrivastav]

@@lucaskp16 that's not a bad salary for little work...you living the easy life

[@_UCS_SwapnilSahaiSrivastav]

Story of Indian public sector employee, only difference is they get paid more than the rest of the country for sitting at their desk and pretending to work.

[@volo870]

While it may seem weird for the foreigner, such misappropriation of military aviation was quite common in the Soviet Union. I've heard a story, where a military cargo plane (AN-26, if I remember correctly) was due to be relocated from a southern airbase, when some high brass insisted that it was to be loaded with watermelons to its full capacity. Nor airplane, nor crew, not even the cargo itself were ready for transportation. Despite the crew's very vocal (and obscene) opposition, it was decided to carry on. To keep the plane balanced, they've bodged a wall made of planks attached to the aircraft frame near its center of mass and just pored loose watermelons into such an improvised compartment. On take off, due to acceleration and rotation, the timber wall snapped, watermelons rolled into the back of the cargo deck and the aircraft started pitching up uncontrollably. Feeling the lurking of inevitable doom (we call it "pizdets" in Russian), the crew managed to lower the loading ramp to save the plane, showering the tarmac with several tones of watermelons, rendering the strip inoperable for the rest of the day! Must have been epic. Too bad it was shoved under the rug quickly.

[@PaperSkiesAviation]

That was an epic view for sure

[@thekinginyellow1744]

misappropriation of military assets is not unheard of outside of the Soviet Union. It is simply a matter of degree.

[@rubetz528]

@@PaperSkiesAviation this story could fit your channel perfectly if you are able to find the records!

[@dashcroft1892]

Hard to shove watermelons under the rug - especially several tonnes.

[@WisamSafi1978]

The funniest part of this that Russians have a single word for “lurking of inevitable doom” This is right there with the german word Schadenfreude

[@nick066hu]

About deficit goods in the Soviet Union: two memory fragments come to my mind. As a tourist I was in Moscow, it was the early 1980s. 1. I remember seeing a very pretty, nicely dressed young lady in her 20s in the subway, (the subway stations are beautiful btw.) She had a dozen of toilet paper rolls stringed on a cord around her neck. I asked my Russian companion if it was some abstract rebel art on her, he laughed and said that toilet paper is so hard to find, that when it is available people stand hours waiting in line, and of course they take every opportunity to buy as much as possible, even if there is no convenient way to carry it home. 2. The other story, I saw some people selling stuff on makeshift tables around subway stations or at other busy locations. these 'markets' were illegal, but were widespread I looked at some goods, and noticed defective lightbulbs (the old tungsten version, it was clearly visible the filament was blown out) But they were quite expensive, way above the list-price of the working ones in stores. I asked what are these for, and was told, that lightbulbs are nowhere to find in the stores, but if you buy a defective one, you can easily swap it to a working one at your workplace without the danger of being caught as thief because of a missing item.

[@eval_is_evil]

Oh man the 2nd one is pure genius

[@karlbassett8485]

This explains Boris Yeltsin's reaction to seeing a typical American supermarket on a trip to the US well before he became leader. On the way back from an official visit he spotted a supermarket and asked to stop. When he saw it was full of every type of goods and that average Americans were shopping there, and that because he was the one who suggested stopping there so it wasn't a fake store staged for his benefit, he realised that maybe the Soviet system wasn't working that well. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZCzi3akjJJlg9E

[@ordinaryk]

The unavailability of consumer goods in the Soviet Union was so bad that they had to withdraw a propaganda film from circulation because it attempted to show American life in the worst way possible, and the Soviet citizens were flabbergasted by all the cars, TVs and refrigerators the "oppressed" Americans owned.

[@richyrich4672]

A plane full of egos is the hardest thing to get off the ground.

[@Leadblast]

Imagine that awful moment in the life of a cadet in the Soviet Navy when suddenly in a morning he receives a phone call informing him that he has been promoted to Admiral.

[@suburban-mech2107]

"We have a coded transmission coming from high command." "Stand by. The communications officer is due back from a meeting soon with the new code book. It can wait."

[@hydrolito]

Probably at least a Captain before promoted to Admiral if in army at least a Colonel.

[@serronserron1320]

There is some sweet advantages when promoted, better food, a much bigger house and more prominence in society. He can live lavishly like KGB officials.

[@TheScandoman]

Wasn't that the plot of a Jerry Lewis movie? "The Reluctant Admiral"?

[@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491]

better yet: imagine when rasPutin takes you out of Petty Thief Prison and puts you in charge of gazprom.

[@aaronweiner2492]

Let’s put our entire leadership structure on one plane so a single accident can wipe out our military structure. That’s some genius Soviet thinking

[@contrapasta2454]

I'm sure at least one of the powerless loaders was like "these guys... don't know what they're in for."

[@angelg2638]

And yet Pres Obama would fly separately from Michelle (a few times), incurring horrendous costs, when she isn't even part of the gov't. This is a opposite end of the spectrum - extreme waste.

[@nikolakaravida9670]

That wasn't uncommon at all for literally any country. Planes are very safe.

[@Kaththee]

For a second I thought you were suggesting that US Gen. Milley and his brilliant staff board a similarly overloaded aircraft, but how would our nation recover from such a tragic loss?

[@andreycham4797]

This level of stupidity was outrun only by president of Poland Kachinskij who killed himself and all top of Poland government by ordering to land in fog

[@alanwayte432]

Due to my work as a technical contractor I took at least 50 flights in USSR in 80s it was always a nerve racking experience 😢

[@maniac3905]

May i ask how old you are? Mr. Alan

[@reviewportaladministrator26]

Tu-154 and IL-62 were quite reliable, IL-86 very reliable, flying in 80s were quite safe.. TU-104 has a major design flaw.

[@jacksonthompson7099]

Reminds me of some footage from Afghan civilian dash cam of a airplane taking off with 2 MRAPs on board that were not secured with the correctly rated chains, when taking off it was presumed the chains snapped. I remember someone one on social media mentioning that before the crash the pilot screamed into his mic "load shift this is it" terrible way to go....

[@trex2092]

I am a retired USCG Aircraft Mech / Air Crew / HC-130 Loadmaster + Instructor, 21 years. I can understand how they can become blind with power and try to re-write the laws of physics or so they think. I walked off a "dirty" HC-130 load once in Clearwater, FL because it was loaded improperly by the midnight shift and the pilot did not want to let me make changes and delay the flight so I gathered my flight bag, informed the other crew members who quickly followed me off the plane. BTW we were carrying a brand new fuel truck inside the aircraft and were going to an island in the Turk & Caicos with a 155,000 lb load. Another loadmaster came out from the hanger, performed the calculations, and agreed with me then we moved some hand loadable material (1,000 lbs.) from the front of the aircraft and placed it on the ramp and it instantly leveled the load and I could prove my math on paper. We had an uneventful flight and that pilot requested me to join him on other long missions "across the pond" to the UK, he knew I was not going to let him kill himself and saw I was willing to walk off the flight rather than being railroaded into an unsafe flight. The Coast Guard taught us Loadmasters and Crew to never be afraid to speak up when necessary, it's called CRM - CockPit Resource Management, it saves lives.

[@SpiritHawk7]

Thank for for doing your job properly which allowed you to catch the mistake, and most importantly, thank you for informing the other crew members of the issue, not just the pilot. Some people would not have made as big of a scene like that and just saved themselves.

[@PInk77W1]

Southwest got a new plane and had a VIP flight to show it off to the press and the big wigs of Dallas. At the last min the pilot canceled for mechanical reason. A reporter asked the CEO of SW what he thought ? The CE0 said We don’t question our pilots when it comes to safety.

[@hassu2149]

USA USA USA

[@billelkins3536]

@@PInk77W1 I’m in

[@josepablolunasanchez1283]

If I was the pilot, I would have called him apart and talk to him saying "Sir, I apologize for the bother, but the improper loading could kill you and kill me. I request permission to take proper measures to avoid that. Do you approve?".

[@PeeGee85]

Admiral: I feel sick, we must stop. Pilot: Sir, this is airplane. Admiral: Do not worry, I bring anchor.

[@supernoloo7757]

There are more planes in the ocean than submarines in the sky

[@johnjiang487]

@@supernoloo7757 true

[@unconventionalideas5683]

@@supernoloo7757 Why is that relevant? Its true but why is that relevant?

[@PilotPianoGuy]

@@supernoloo7757 hahaha true your are

[@redbank9955]

basically how it went down

[@zukazealanee]

This is the reason why so many industries and especially those in aviation not only recommend but encourage those in lower ranks to speak up if something seems off. Your superiors are not infallible, and systems can and do fail. NEVER be afraid to say something, it could and DOES save lives!

[@M0rmagil]

Unsecured loads don’t work on trucks, they sure as hell don’t work on aircraft. Good video. Sad story. 🙁

[@MrJeffcoley1]

There was a wonderful tale of Soviet military bureaucracy in a book written by a defector. He tells the story of a group of soldiers who accidentally burn up an army motorbike while cleaning their weapons with gasoline (petrol) during the invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968. With the help of their officer they invent a story about being attacked by "counter-revolutionaries" who threw a Molotov cocktail from a car and burned up the bike. Every level of command sends it back down with instructions to add more military property to the list of gear destroyed in the attack. By the time it reached the general's office not only the motorbike was burnt, but also a large amount of winter clothing, optics, range-finders, and other expensive gear. "It was a very well-equipped motor bike, apparently outfitted for winter operations."

[@keirfarnum6811]

That’s so Russian!

[@FAL_Enthusiast]

What was the book? Sounds like an interesting read!

[@wyattpeterson6286]

What was the books name?

[@MrJeffcoley1]

@@wyattpeterson6286 “The liberators“ by Viktor Suvorov

[@arktisch36]

@@keirfarnum6811 so being a liar is a russian-exclusive quality now?

[@khalid749]

"To service members who died while doing groceries and were too arrogant and drunk on liquor and power to heed the warnings of their exceptionally experienced flight crew."

[@benmmbk765]

Well, they hired a dog to bark but DID the barking themselves instead.

[@USARMYvietnamVET1969]

Well they all had to retire sometime and that was Russia's lucky day, 16 at once can't get much better than that! .. and who gives a shit anyway...

[@thebravesirrobin.]

@@benmmbk765 Hiring a dog to bark is not how many manager-type people see the world. Especially not in ultra-hierarchical societies like the USSR. In a perfect world, asking someone with technical skills to do something should start off with "is this safe to do at all?"

[@generalhorse493]

Y'know it wouldn't surprise if it that's how Jim Bezos and the Kardashians die

[@benmmbk765]

@@thebravesirrobin. They were not managers either. They did not manage anything and did not let others either. They were accustomed to GIVE orders and being obeyed without a question.

[@smokeonthewater5287]

I visited the Soviet Union as a teenager and I can remember the incredible atmosphere there. You felt constantly under pressure and in feeling of danger from the KGB and the lack of everything was evident. I was incredibly relieved when I got out of there. My distress was amplified by the fact that my host family had given me a bottle of liquor as a present and the border guard inspected my bags when going _out_ from the country 😂 I had hidden the bottle under my clothes and the border guard looked through all the layers except the bottom one lol.

[@concept5631]

I imagine the inspection process was pretty intense.

[@homelesslukeskywalker7277]

And they say communism works

[@Shaun_Jones]

Was the liquor any good?

[@UNUSUALUSERNAME220]

I was a printer for years. Even a double wide roll does not print that many copies, that's why we use auto-splicers. A single roll of newsprint prints (about) 15,000 copies, in tab format it prints 8 pages, in broadsheet 4 pages. A double wide roll is meant to be printed in collect, that cuts the amount of copies you can get off of a double wide roll in half. So, in collect you can print 16 pages, but only produce (roughly) 8,000 copies. Auto-splicers splice rolls together as you print to allow you to continue without stopping. These rolls weigh about 1/2 ton so if they had more than 1 roll, that's 1 ton of paper. If they needed newsprint that badly, it was a lot of weight, for not many copies of a news paper.

[@HeinzGuderian_]

I'm stunned that there wasn't a rule prohibiting so many high level military leaders on a single transport.

[@Steir12]

I bet there was such rule but as it been told in the video high level military officials aren't very keen on following the rules.

[@robert100xx]

I'd be willing to accept that there was available aircraft to spread the risk. However they fiddled the books, trousered the difference in cost and crushed up the loot and themselves into one. Then they browbeated the crew under dire threat to proceed.

[@HeinzGuderian_]

@@robert100xx 100%.

[@bfrehksdhf]

Faked deaths. Any real evidence these generals actually died, or are we just taking their word for it?

[@eval_is_evil]

​​​@@Steir12onically it's the same problem in corporate regarding infosec. Thankfully CISOs are as a rule under nobody's chain of command other than the general manager or director and when they propose a security policy change they will include everyone. If the director/gen manager doesnt approve then the responsability is his/her. That's in theory. In practice the IT support departments that should follow these policies make exceptions for the upper management because they're frequently led by suckups.

[@davidtoth8975]

It is such a joy to have a content creator who understands peculiarities of east bloc life, can pronounce russian names and places, and knows about aviation history. You even show scenes from contemporary movies that I would never have otherwise seen. You deserve much recognition. Your reward is therefore an "excellent aircraft" decal, on the side of your computer case, perhaps.

[@keith8346]

I Agree great job very informative.

[@ronnielim1663]

>>>>>{i>

[@t.s.1565]

Bu the way he pronounces russian names i estimate 80% a guy is russian

[@357-swagnumultramagax9]

I love anything eastern block related , SUBBED !

[@stogies3]

You can expect a russian to correctly pronounce russian names and places,can’t you?

[@phrygianphreak4428]

SU: “dear magic conch, may I have a mighty navy?” The conch: “No”

[@Shaun_Jones]

“Dude, we’re falling right out of the sky!! We need to drop the load!!!”

[@Stitchwitchstitch]

Oh man. I bet the pilot was watching the loading and thinking “I’m pretty sure I’m going to die today.” 😳 A definite “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation.

[@michaelmckeever2734]

As an aviator, I have to say you did a fantastic job explaining what caused the crash. Aviation laws and rules are written in blood, every rule exists because someone was killed from an accident that was related to it. In aviation, you can't have an ego and if someone says something is dumb, dangerous or different, if you want to live, you'll stop and assess the situation.

[@edwardgiovannelli5191]

That is true in the west, but the west is weak. In mother Russia, the Party says what's what and the airplane will do its patriotic duty if it knows what's good for it.

[@tomyost6330]

Well said.

[@mingming9604]

In the US, not even the president can override the AF1 pilot in command if the pilot in command deems something is unsafe.

[@tomyost6330]

@BOB K Agreed, the price one should pay when you put yourself before all other's safety. Gross negligence for other peoples' well being should not be an option. Respect for human (and other life) should be the only option. Peace.

[@jimmymac63]

I seem to remember an arrogant American Col who was flying a B-52 beyond its limits to prove that assesment!

[@Niinsa62]

The Soviet Union. A friend travelled by train there, in the early eighties. Night train, a sleeper car. There were only two passengers on that car, he and an elderly woman he had never met before. Of course the train crew made them share a sleeping compartment. Probably to make it easier to clean afterwards, only one compartment to clean. The other dozen or so compartments were empty. He also told me about how shopping worked, at least in tourist-friendly department stores in Moscow. In other cities it probably didn't work at all. Remember the cruel but true joke, "I would like to buy a loaf of bread, please." "Sorry, you are in the wrong shop. This is not the shop that doesn't have bread to sell. This is the shop that doesn't have milk to sell." Anyways, in Moscow you lined up in a department store line to a clerk behind a counter, to buy whatever they had to sell. It was literally like that, "I don't care what you have to sell, I'll buy it". Then you got a receipt saying you wanted to buy this thing, that you could take to the checkout counter, where you had to stand in line again. Once you got to the clerk there, you got to pay for your stuff, and got a receipt saying that you had indeed paid. Then you had to return to the first queue and stand in line again, until you reached that first clerk and could show them that you had paid. Then they would give you your stuff. And now you were free to go to the leave-the-department-store queue, where staff checked that you had paid for the stuff you were carrying before letting you leave the department store. And remember, these were the fancy tourist stores, not the rude ones ordinary Russians had to shop in. I'm told all Russians always carried a just-in-case shopping bag, just in case they saw a queue where apparently something was for sale. They would get in line without even knowing what they were standing in line for. If people are queueing up, it must be worth getting, whatever it is. Cabbage, milk, bread, carrots, whatever. If I'm lucky, it might even be toilet paper. But that is just crazy dreaming.

[@samiam619]

And they put up with that for years…

[@davidewhite69]

They would get in line without even knowing what they were standing in line for. If people are queueing up, it must be worth getting, whatever it is. My family was posted to England in 1978. One day my father and I were in the local town of Sleaford waiting outside a shop for my mother and sister and all of a sudden a queue started forming. By the time my mum and sister came out there were twenty people queued! True story! So its not just the Soviets

[@mowtow90]

For a lot of people in the west the hole idea of 3 part shopping is idiotic but it has a very good reason for it (you can actually still see it in videos from NK). The reason for that is in communist states , unemployement is iligal and the state provides all the jobs. The catch is , there arent eaungh jobs to give , so they invent them(adminstration or burucratic jobs are the easiest to make). I remember seeing that stuff when I was a kid in Bulgaria. It lasted up to mid 2000s in gov administration. For a simple document you had to go true 5 different clerk just to get a stamp or an addional useless paper. This is exactly the same thing as the department store. 1 job given to 3-4 people so there are employed. Pretty much by law you have to be 1 of 4 things: 1. Student 2. In the military 3. Employed 4. Retiered there is no 5th option. My mother told me a comical story about her cosin. He just finished Medical university and was unemployed (he graduted a few days before). He was sitting in a caffe with friends and the police showed up for a pasport check (that was something regular back then). Back then the pasports had a stamp from the employer/school or the army -that is what they ware checking. If they catch you with expired stamp or missing , they take your pasport and you get a job the very next day. The catch is , they give you the first thing available - regardless of your education. Her cosin ,a graduated docktor, had to work for 3 years as a high school janitor... He had to work that ,because back then you ware not allowed to quit. In comunist states you can only be released from a job with a very difficult processes. Pretty much you need to have a very good reason (permanent injury , relocation due to marrage or fired) or re-assigned by the employement office. My mother's uncle had to pay quite a lot of bribes to get his sone re-assigned to a hospital as docktor.

[@przemos7816]

True words

[@deadeyecpt.7765]

@@mowtow90 "Congratulations on your new job, sir." "But I'm a little overqualified for this,don't you think?" *points gun* "I said congratulations, sir"

[@AngusSuter]

Thank you for the video telling the story so well. Was great to have the background added in about the situation of getting goods and why it was overloaded.

[@DMBall]

Absolutely first rate; full of surprises and a very crafty and sardonic humor.

[@Robbstark2024]

NATO: we are unable to eliminate any of the high command in the Soviet navy USSR: fine I’ll do it myself

[@user-ot7wh6mh7n]

Here's a joke about how NATO could surely defeat USSR. They should simply declare an intention to start a war with Soviet Union in several years. Then sit back and watch as Soviet military devours itself in an endless series of chaotic preparations

[@user-qw6zj5ix9k]

@@user-ot7wh6mh7n The USSR was the best country and was very professionally prepared for a war. Only modern capitalist russia´s army is chaotic

[@onewhosaysgoose4831]

@@user-ot7wh6mh7n I don't think that would actually work because the soviet economy was geared for war from the 40s to its collapse. That is a large part of why Soviet citizens suffered; most of the capital in USSR was producing war-material or enriching the politically powerful.

[@wanderschlosser1857]

@@user-qw6zj5ix9k The USSR probably was quite prepared for war at any time, so was the entire Eastern Block. BUT the USSR was certainly never in its almost 75 years of existence even close to be the best country in the world. Especially not for its citizen!

[@NUCLEARARMAMENT]

@@onewhosaysgoose4831 This is completely false. The USSR devoted 9% of its GDP in 1989 to the military. The USA on the other hand devoted 6% of its GDP to the military in 1989. And if you consider the manufacturing/industrial output devoted to the Soviet military budget in 1989, it was about 8%. Whereas in USA 8% to 10% of the entire manufacturing output of the USA as of 2020 went to producing defense weapons for the military.

[@slavistoyanov432]

Very well laid out story, plus the 'sausage trains' was spot on explaining how things were back in the 80s. Well done.

[@JamesSmith-ui2hv]

WRONG , THIS AN STORY ABOUT HOW THINGS ARE DONE IN A COMMUNIST STATE , THE INSECTS BLINDLY OBEY THEIR SUPERIORS AND A SUPERIOR IS ANYONE WITH ONE RANK ABOVE

[@slavistoyanov432]

@Tony Terry It had some drawbacks, but we had a pretty care free childhood in the 80s. Never a dull moment. The 90s were a completely deferens story though.

[@slavistoyanov432]

@@JamesSmith-ui2hv What do you know about communism mate? 😉

[@JamesSmith-ui2hv]

@@slavistoyanov432 I am not your mate ,statistics and history shows communism as a genocidal ideology where the ones who lower their heads survived in a parasitical and criminal society , (the attitude of the soviet admiral towards the INSECTS pilots gave you a clear example of what that means) that would not tolerate any form of dissent , if you at your age do not know or understand that It will be impossible for me to convince you otherwise , now from my part , I lived in a socialist society that crumble by its own weight in the 70s , During my working life I have met enough escapees from the soviets in the 80s and 60s including the last person to leave eastern Germany just before the soviets close the border (Wolfgang Fuchs was his name) , to have a clear idea of how that failed system operated and I used the word operate instead of work for obvious reason , as well I have worked with people from the caribean , cubans , venezuelans who have to escape from the communist socialist paradise to go and leave everything behind at the risk of their own life and live free in the capitalist hell

[@smoldoggy1005]

@Tony Terry tell that to chemo patients

[@jiefflerenard1228]

So informative and entertaining at the same time . A pleasure to listen to your story and explanations.Thank you for sharing!

[@curtiscarlson8958]

Wonderfully presented and explained. Very well done.

[@mariebcfhs9491]

"Here lie 16 admirals whom heroically sacrificed while doing groceries. Да пребудет с ними сила"

[@michealfigueroa6325]

LOL

[@robertthomas5906]

Imagine if it were toilet paper. 16 admirals sacrificed for TP.

[@boyteebah3794]

lol

[@francoistombe]

No shortage of admirals. In the Royal Navy today admirals outnumber ships.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

@@francoistombe It's a Long Way to Tipperary

[@weilandiv8310]

At my old job, all of the managers flew on the same airplane to a company meeting. Sadly, this scenario played out in my mind.

[@raygunreagan2274]

We’ve all had that thought at least once

[@DexHD31]

Me as a kid hoping a random plane comes down and takes out the person carrying the exam papers to the hall

[@seanhurd4633]

We call this the bus list. Folks on the bus list (VP's, C-suite executives, etc) are not allowed to travel together in groups of greater than 2 in case they both get hit by the proverbial "bus" and crash the company/project as a result.

[@hyperthreaded]

You mean you were sad that the scenario only played out in ur mind, not in reality? 😂

[@gigmaresh8772]

First rule of Star Trek Never put all your bridge crew in the same shuttle craft

[@patrickfuller6025]

Amazing how personal greed and stubbornness could kill so many. Sad

[@judet2992]

There’s a reason Mustard made a whole vid on just the badness of the TU-104.

[@davidewhite69]

having 21 years of experience in Military aircraft maintenance, I can tell you CofG and 'weight and balance' and securing cargo when loading cargo and passengers is always calculated to the nth degree. How the Soviets could mess this up defies all logic. In the Airforce I served in, the pilot was boss regardless of rank of his fellow aircrew and passengers, it didnt matter if a passenger was Chief Of The Airforce the pilot was still in command. the Admirals overriding all rules is absolute disgraceful conduct if true

[@StephenKarl_Integral]

Less than a year ago, in the city of Antananarivo, capital of Madagascar, an entrepreneur conducted the building of a multi storey warehouse. While attempting to erect the third floor, the building partially collapsed, killing 3 workers and injuring dozens others. Upon investigation, it became clear the workers did not wait for 3 weeks to let the concrete rest and set while drying, they resumed construction 3 days after pouring. Family victims and public were scandalized the same way you are. When interrogated, workers replied the boss (entrepreneur) gave the order to resume work or we'll get fired on the spot. They said they need the job, the only one they could find in months (years for some), and they would die of starvation anyway, it's better to have a job and fight for your life than refuse the task and die anyway. They just hoped the structure would sustain the stress, even tried to negociate some structural strenghening with the "boss" but to no avail. They explained the risks, but, because the one who pay is the boss (told as "the one who make paradise or hell") it's better to die tomorrow than yesterday. ^^ this, to explain the importance of "equal", and how poverty or ranking always find a way to disguise lies into an illusion of "justice and order". It happens everywhere, everyday, in every area in every cutlural, social, political or ideological society. AeroSucre for instance, a cargo airline in Venezuela had an internal policy of systematically overloading their aircraft... one day, a 727 crashed. The airline died, the air and ground crew lost their job. Where are a "heads" of the airline today ? Running other lucrative and obscure businesses somewhere else in the world... In countries like USA or France or United Kingdom, maybe, just maybe, it happenned people got lucky enough or had fought enough (civil war) to get a semblance of equality, but in other area of the world, like in the United Arab Emirates, DON'T speak if you don't have a high ranking someone to back you up... It doesn't help to be scandalized. What would help is to find many intelligent poor people in those countries, secretly supply them with weapons, and let them get rid of the greedy bastards that maintain them in poverty by themselves instead of trying diplomacy and killing one president while the other 150000 wealthy below are still working hard to maintain population in a hard state of dependency in every possible way.

[@peterlee840]

@@StephenKarl_Integral we have tried that a few times the problem is most people couldn’t care less. They would rather live in poverty than fight for equality.

[@StephenKarl_Integral]

@@peterlee840 You are correct, in the sense it's not just a matter of having weapons. You require many conditions (preparations) to actually produce an event powerfull enough to trigger a drastic change in the possibility for people to start building a better future. Just to name a few : - deep state of misery where, even among the less desperate people, your own life value become less important than anything else, that, you are finally ready to commit the unthinkable. Most people will choose suicide, but some may organize themselves in some intelligent way to get the job done at all costs, and motivate those who didn't suicide themselves to cooperate. - so yeah, already said if, but preparation and organization : you need intelligent people that can mass human, financial and technical resources, and coordinate plans to produce a meaningfull process. - you also need to attain a critical mass, where the sheer volume of unprepared and stupid people with rudimentary equipment could flood and crush well trained and armed military forces. Like, how do you invade the highly guarded home of the most influent entrepreneur of the country ? - etc. That's why you don't have North Korea people standing : most intelligent people are on the regime side, and despite whatever the perception of outsiders, North Korean people *are NOT YET in the state of misery that would trigger their rage.* And that's a contextual factor : what makes occidental people flood the street out of rage is not the same for africans, or south american. Every region of the world is different, every local place in a country has its own level of "criticity". That's the job of special analysts in political formations to assess, evaluate that level, via indicators (like fake communications then observe social media, or tax people more, and if most still pay, that means there is no upset yet) and advise political figures in their decisions. Sometimes, you give population a few privileges, or infrastructures or services to tame them, but the main purpose of the system remains making people pay more and produce more. And on that part, it's the same everywhere on the planet. Thing is, from time to time, there are violent upsets from populations in some region of the world. What was the french 1789 event ? Well, it was a period of a few years where people organized themselves to strike elite figures of power at their home, or at work, kidnap them, bring them on public places to torture then decapitate them, as an example to be witnessed by everyone, adults as *children,* of what would happen to anyone having power, but, treating populations as shit. That was, according to law, criminal act of mass murder, but, at this point, those who had power at the time had to change course because of fear, a very real fear of being murdered. That happenned only because those figures *failed* to correctly asses how far they went. Overtime, the system has changed from direct actions, "you produce, I pay", to a fine multi layered set of financial systems, laws, morale and principles. There are many controls in the system to alert on population imminent upset, but the system itself (capitalism) can only works *if you are still increasing production rate.* Today, despite everything done politically to NEVER have another 1789, the system cannot but break due to ressources starvations (we are 8 billions, and there are parts of the world that would simply economically collapse, like my country, Madagascar). So, when one part of the world will spiral in a critical state of misery, you get another local 1789, it may take a dozen year or a century, but that WILL happen. And because of globalization, an implosing nation will impact another, then another, and so on, all thanks to a bad capitalism design in the first place and centuries of LIES : you can't feed everyone on Earth, you must instantly erase 3 billions people in order for our current system to sustain itself for more decades and centuries. The upset worldwide pandemic I'm talking about is not a matter of if, it's a matter of when it begins, because it will happen, and if you and I (or our descendants) will be among those who get wiped out or not. However, that does not mean "justice" will win at the end, you are correct, it will be pretty much the opposite : those who have power will find *another way* to make a system that appears fair and far from being hopeless. For example : like a smart brainwash to control birth rate where only people engaged in protecting the new system will be granted the right to have descendants, there are ways to make population believe it's fair... My point is, in the meantime, some populations will find *reasons* to lose themselves in noble missions, and will succeed doing so, to secure a less miserable future for others *for a limited amount of time.* Obviously, if people today are still thinking *elections* and *political figures* and *justice* and *rights as per the law,* that won't get them anywhere : see, people believe *_those are ways..._* They aren't anymore since the existence of central banks. Madagascar, France, United States, Ukraine, Russia... it's the exact same, I wasn't talking about classic actions like a putch, or a public international scandal or terrorism, I'm talking about actions the scale of genocides or world wars. Sometimes, to trigger a change, you MUST create an even worse context, something beyond a normal human brain can comprehend. A shame, but if you ask me, WE are the shame, we, humans, why are we so evil ?

[@WalruswithTaste]

@@StephenKarl_Integral A lot of times those intelligent poor people we arm become the next greedy bastards and nothing really changes.

[@StephenKarl_Integral]

@@WalruswithTaste That's right, it's very similar to those local non-governmental organizations importing supplies, where the goods end up in businesses and illegal traffic. And that's why you must be very carefull in which kind of group figures you can trust. The number of criterias to identify them is a tiny window. I won't list them all, but, first, it must be a group that doesn't bother to hide its actual objective : *make money, a lot of money !* The moment you have figures prentending to fight for rights and democracy and liberty, and nothing else, it's screwed. You must find one that has a clear minded and realistic way to bring economical and politicial improvements that actually benefits many people, *especially* those who are conducting the changes. Any other mean is a lie, noone fights for values, it's always for money. Get a detailed planned process, is it realistic, is it possible, practically, what are the chances of success, immediate, near future, in the long term ? Then, identify who are those people. You see a name or a face that has already worked with the present regime or any of the previous, get away. Those are filthy scavengers who won't hesitate to sabotage the process for better gains. If you only have a few figure, it won't be enough, you need a bunch of competent people to quickly seize any strategic responsibility and maintain it overtime. It's the principle of many people looking towards the same goal, not a bunch of very noisy fools who are just going to mess everything up. It's no use to equip a bunch of military personnel led by a few officers. They aren't competent on anything other than military specific things. Appart fighting capabilities, what do they have in terms of finance, economics, social, political, medical, industrial (...) everything human ressources. The more the better, the less the greater the risks of failure. Also, people well aware some of them, if not many of them will die, as a possibility, and are, I won't say, _ready to die_ (this is dangerous) but dead serious of what to do to defy death while retaining a 100% compatibility with the process. Obviously, getting a list of all the people I named above is an incredible design flaw, get this list to present regime, then kill them all... Well, that's why it takes *at least a decade,* just for terrain reconnaissance, relationship establishment, network building, context assessment... Trust requires time, actions an engagements, you can't just get there and start gathering willing people around. Do things that proves you are there to create changes, and they'll, at some point, come to you. ^^ those are a few principles to initiate a change of unprecedented scale. They remain the same whatever the scale of the context. Failing one, and it just does not work. The people you are looking for are most likely those casual anyone nobody cares about you can casually talk with on... youtube or whatever, not a public figure at the head of some official organisation, institution or company. Indeed, many well-founded aid just equipped the wrong people, it failed, everytime; entirely correct. Am I among those guys ? Well, I wouldn't be here saying all that if I were, and honestly, I don't care, life is not funny otherwise. But what I'm doing here helps those who don't want what I describe, *as well as those who are trying, just get better guys and good luck.* You made a point, I take the opportunity to explain why it fails, nothing more, nothing less.

[@joechang8696]

I flew on a AN-24 between Kiev and Kharkov. the wheel bolts and nuts were rusted and heavily worn that a wrench would not be able to get a grip. One tire was fully bald and another was nearly bald. for take-off, the plane made a slow run along the full length of the runway. afterward take-off, we had a tree-top level view of the country-side for quite some time before the plane gain altitude. I did recall the plane having only few passengers. for the return trip, i took the train

[@effexon]

are these AN-24 most common aircraft in russia and ukraine in civilian use? I've heard planes going down so often in these countries, it cant be just staff being inexperienced.

[@discoboy8169]

An-24 was not in 80s. I remember Ty-134 and Як-40 which was worse than Tu-134. Tu-134 were the best that time.

[@avachkai]

Эти самолёты не выпускаются уже лет пятьдесят, ничего странного что они часто падают. И подготовка персонала стала хуже, это не добавляет надежности полётам.

[@navyseal1689]

Russian engineering , will always keep the job done

[@matchesburn]

@@SusanWSucks "but will get the job done." I'm not that worried about an AK variant exploding in my face and killing me. And it's unlikely that a T-55 is just going to randomly blow up for no reason. ...But if you think that the state of that aircraft is safe... By all means, YOU can fly on it. I will not.

[@rockybarrano33]

Great video my friend…very eye opening & informative, thanks

[@kurochi89]

A fantastic example of hubris. A lesson everyone should take to heart as we all can be effected by it.

[@saideepakchurya7191]

"Those possessing enormous powers not only reject laws of humanity but also laws of physics" Funny and informative at the same time :D

[@pickeljarsforhillary102]

Kommissar sent the Laws of Physics to the gulag.

[@gast128]

Sad when superior officers can bully people into not doing their job properly. This behavior happens all over the world as can be seen in the series' Seconds from Disaster'. In the Tenerife airport disaster the senior pilot bullied his young copilot who was questioning if they had clearance to take off. In this video it's even more severe where an outsider overrules the expert.

[@josepablolunasanchez1283]

If my life was at risk, I would pick the option with better chances. Saying no would bring hell, but it is better than dying..

[@lucaskp16]

@@josepablolunasanchez1283 not that easy of a choice. that hell is not always better than dying. crossing an admiral in the soviet army would had ruined this crew life and their families life too. and sent him to the gulag alone or with his family. best case bye pension,job forever, probably the jobs of those close to you. welcome famine or dead by freeze. in that situation hopping for the best was the pilot best decision. unless they changed pilots fast the plane crash anyways and he reteains his job and life. but in that case he just sent someone else to take his place.

[@peterdaly6173]

@@josepablolunasanchez1283 this is Russia.. saying No can result in you dying.

[@MikkoRantalainen]

@@josepablolunasanchez1283 Remember that we're talking about USSR. The hell that admiral can bring to your life may make dying an option worth considering.

[@yarpen26]

@@josepablolunasanchez1283 Nobody would have understood. _Nobody._ You would probably be spending the rest of your days wishing you could go back and actually take that flight instead if ruining your career. People just were ignorant of the massive danger and bred from birth to believe that whatever a high ranking military guy said was Scripture. You think your wife would be questioning how a navy admiral should ever think he knew more about planes than you do? Delusions.

[@josephastier7421]

So much for the pilot in command being the final authority as to the safety of the aircraft.

[@paulyiustravelogue]

Great stuff 👍🏻 I learned about the TU-104 elsewhere, but this story is more fascinating

[@nk_3332]

A SALT team from Russia was in the US examining a local factory for compliance to the missile treaty. They nearly cleaned out the local outlet stores of jeans, handbags and luggage. I wondered if they'd flown in on the An-225 with all the stuff they'd purchased.

[@nickmitsialis]

Hehehehe...My sister attended a few 'communist youth rallies', in the company of our overseas commie relatives; the one thing she noticed was these youths were all wearing levis jeans and drinking coca colas, in spite of the rhetoric. A few of the attendees questioned her, because 'she had a funny accent; was she from one of the progressive countries?' My kin told them (in jest) she was from China and not the US--and they accepted it.

[@colbygordon6936]

@@nickmitsialis One thing hardline commies both sides of the now-defunct iron curtain have in common is the blatant hypocrisy.

[@venonat80]

Moscow: What caused the plane crash!? Enemy attack!? Investigators: Large Newspaper rolls and Admirals going over board with their shopping. Moscow: …We’ll never speak of this again….

[@dustytrails1]

Yea, instead look for sabotage.

[@SoulArtSound]

How paper roll could move when cargo area was full to the top!?

[@claas.relotius]

@@dustytrails1 very polish

[@analisarasco8980]

There, they reap it. Arrogance and negligence.

[@Haskellerz]

Plot twist: the CIA sabotaged the plane to make it look like the fault of Tu-104 engineers

[@andrewrossy]

just love this story. have come back time and time again for another listen!!

[@PotooBurd]

This is so informative! Great job, fantastic reporting!🌻🌼🐝 Keep it up 🙌

[@keithweiss7899]

As a guy who worked closely with military leaders in the U.S. I can assure you that our leaders aren’t much different. I was warned repeatedly that I couldn’t accept any gift from a contractor. I would be fired if I so much as got a coffee cup. But my leaders met with those contractors many times and got extravagant food, drink and women. If I was forced into accepting a gift, I was ordered to turn it in to those bosses. Who then kept them for themselves! It was disgusting!

[@BeyondtheBlade]

A lot of private companies are the same way. You are not allowed to accept gifts from clients, and if you are pressured into doing it, you are 'encouraged' to turn it in to your team leader or whoever. Through doing that, they inadvertently create the unsaid rule of "If you accept a gift, never tell anybody."

[@samiam619]

@Keith Weiss, You forgot the promise of Well Paid Future Jobs!

[@oleksiysokolov3510]

@Keith Weiss So, this scene from "Don't look up" movie where a general sold a bottle of water for $10 has some grounds? :)

[@renaldoawesomesauce1654]

This isn't due to military leaders, or private companies, this is due to laws and the fact that you can get people sued as a result. Blame the law makers.

[@BeyondtheBlade]

@@renaldoawesomesauce1654 In that case, blame the whole legal system. In the US, you can in fact sue anybody for any reason. No law or regulation needs to be broken. Just that if it is stupid, it risks being laughed out of court.

[@bookemdanno5596]

Every narrator on KZbin can learn a lot from this channel's narrator. Confident, amusing, enjoyable, and a steady cadence. Add the fact that English is not his first language and it's even better. Thank you for adding some light to the horrible human and computerized narrators of KZbin videos!

[@dmitri-khalezov]

Yes, it is excellent.

[@Lucianrider]

Couldn't agree more!!

[@samuel2291]

Yes it was good. I also got a good laugh at myself when I mishead he said "weirdos" instead of "widows".

[@belaeszpresszo9270]

Tell me about, especially in regards to that loathsome channel, Dark Skies, with its insane computerized voiceover. It even plagarized the Paper Skies video on the Tu-22 with the same script narrated by an artificial source. What makes Paper Skies so interesting is that the producer was actually THERE. He is speaking from his experience living in the USSR and though this channel is about aviation, I have learned so much about the Soviet Union from watching them.

[@ArsenalofMikeocracy]

Dont overlook how well written it is either. Like a murder mystery, but unlike a murder mystery because it's engaging the whole time. Its well written enough anyone woukd sound good reading it. I don't wanna knock the man's narration skills, its like watching a professional driver in Lamborghini. It good on its own, but he made it perfect.

[@RolfSAMA]

This is the 2nd vid on this topic that I watched & a superior one. Thank U very much.

[@arieldiaz8204]

Awesome work! Fascinating, engaging. Your channel is just art. You present a movie plot on every video.

[@foowashere]

That was a very interesting spin on a forgotten aircraft crash, taking us through Soviet life, society-and death. I was a bit confused half-way through, but you tied it up wonderfully at the end. The snippets of period cinema was very entertaining too. Thanks for making and sharing!

[@PaperSkiesAviation]

Glad you enjoyed the video! And thank you for your support of the channel! 👍

[@JohnSmith-eo5sp]

Scenes from Hunt for Red October

[@JohnSmith-eo5sp]

@Waxel Punkt. Don't forget that the USSR was an oppressive empire that chewed up human beings in mass

[@tomyost6330]

@@JohnSmith-eo5sp This is so true. The lack of respect for human life was terribly low by the leaders back then. Millions died, or treated horribly.

[@bradymenting5120]

USSR: This is obviously a result of sabotage by the American Special Forces! US Intelligence: Ha! we wish we could pull something like this

[@jesscast5122]

It was the Spirits of VODKA!!!

[@SuperDave_BR549]

what was hillary doing back then?

[@silentbob5566]

@@SuperDave_BR549 "what was hillary doing back then?" - probably buying wonderful RIAD email server from Soviet Union. Totally trustworthy.

[@MiaMooreA]

One CIA agent laughing his way to the bank with all them roubles after selling all that furniture and utilities.

[@SuperDave_BR549]

@James Warden Jr. that vile significant other of slick willie that has more death associated with her than the grim reaper.

[@jacobjackson5062]

I for one think Cpt. Inusyon deserves a Medal of Honor for ridding the world of 16 idiots.

[@marcelosoareshungria9262]

Amazing videos. Congrats!

[@navyreviewer]

"Math doesnt care about your feelings." "We (economists the west) always assumed they (the soviets) were cooking the books because the numbers they released weren't rational. It turns out they were more or less real. Their economy really was that mismanaged."

[@darkalman]

Would love to hear more about that actually

[@angelg2638]

Mismanaged. So, like America's is mismanaged these past few decades?

[@jamesoprey6330]

@@angelg2638 it is, and it always was - but slightly less mismanaged than Soviet economics, and that's why USSR is dead and USA is not (yet).

[@sentinel1064]

Your comment seems even more funny taking into account the context: - during 26th Congress of the CPSU (February 1981, the same year&month of the story we are speaking about) the chairman Leonid Brezhnev declared: "Economy should be economical!" ("экономика должна быть экономной!") Soviet propaganda quickly transformed this rather indistinct call into ubiquitous & immutable one. This lasted about a year, 'till the speaker's death next year: every obedient "citizen" had to be "economical" (kinda the fight against China's sparrows earlier)

[@homo-ludens]

Is this valid up to now?

[@cdanielh128]

I remember my parents friend from Russia back in the 80s, anytime I would ask why things I would hear about Russia was the way it was. He would say. "Don't try to understand Russia. At times not even Russians understand. You just learn to accept that Russia, like life, has its own way".

[@johnytwotimes4072]

@TacticalMoonstone My Ex Gfs stepmom was Russian and had only been here for a few years when we dated. Her Dad traveled there and fell in love with Russia and also a Russian. When I visited my Gfs stepmom would always have a Russian channel on via their satellite TV. Idk if it was just one channel or if it was multiple ones. It was usually the news but sometimes I would be able to watch portions of game shows as well. It was very interesting to get a glimpse of Russian media. I too am fascinated with Russian history and society now more than ever and I am grateful for this new channel I've discovered on KZbin

[@johnsmith4811]

Sounds like paraphrasing of the Russian poet Fedor Tyutchev that goes something like: Russia can not be comprehended by a mind, Can not be sized by a common measuring-stick. She is of a special stature. One can only have faith in Russia.

[@JohnJBrowne11209]

Almost all Russian and Soviet history can be summarized in five words: "And then things got worse."

[@henriyoung3895]

Really good video. Thank you.

[@salvagedb2470]

" Servicemen who died while doing Groceries " , this one is always worth a re watch just for the need of Greed and Authority over Safety .

[@ianlowery6014]

In WW2 the RAAF had 7 navigation instructors. Six were on the one plane and it crashed leaving us with one. After that a special rule came in to the RAAF, limiting the number of senior officers who could be on the one aircraft. My father had joined up and after a 3 week delay in which they investigated him, he found himself not at the local recruiting office but in the CBD, many floors up, and the two men interviewing him were not the local sergeant but 2 very senior officers. One said "Just the man we wanted". My father had an exemplary 3 year career in the police force as he paid his way through uni, he had a post graduate degree in mathematics, and a lot of teaching experience. All the recruiting centres were on the look out for such men. My father received 6 weeks training and was then promoted to flight lieutenant as he needed the stripes to get the respect from the men he taught. As I remember (there is a film about it, I think called "The Sullivans"), 4 brothers served in the US Navy on the one ship. It was sunk and a rule came in that no two or more brothers could serve on the one ship.

[@pyroman6000]

5 brothers. The rule also limits the number of people from one family that can serve at one time. They named a Fletcher class Destroyer after them- the first time in the US Navy a warship was named for more than one Person. That ship resides in Buffalo, NY as a museum ship. The name continues on. They were serving aboard the Juneau when it was attacked by the Japanese Navy, and eventually sunk.

[@ianlowery6014]

@@pyroman6000 Thanks for that

[@KrotowX]

Awesome footage. Started with air crash and perishing of USSR Navy top brass, which suddenly turned out was caused by consequences of grocery trip. I lived in USSR at 1970-80-ies and can acknowledge that depiction of Soviet shopping oddities and deficit is shockingly precise. There was nuances which depended from where and when you lived and basic goods like bread and milk was usually available in shops. However absence of quality consumer products and specific goods like mentioned toilet paper - temporary or permanently - indeed was a thing. In USSR Tu-104 was famous because it was first Soviet jet airliner and had "proper" jet plane look. Crash statistics was classified and very few knew real truth.

[@johnbowman1076]

If you could see the ads today for encouraging middle age veterans to re-enlist to fight in the Ukraine... "Gives us six months, and we'll give you enough money to buy your daughter an I-phone."

[@mikoto7693]

Oh, I feel so bad for the captain and the first officer, I truly do. They would have probably been executed or had their careers or lives ruined if they had refused. I wonder how afraid they and others like them were during their final flight.

[@rasmuslarsen7842]

Great video, keep up the good work :)

[@afcgeo882]

True story: my childhood best friend’s dad was on this flight. He was 25 at the time (the dad, not my friend). His name was Gennadiy Shevchenko. He was a Junior Lieutenant - adjutant to the Commander - Pacific Fleet.

[@teslashark]

A bad way to go, what a way

[@daveyalbert4839]

Was your friends personality anything like his father's? Or was he the opposite? How did his father's death change His personality?

[@adamz.3654]

@@daveyalbert4839 Dude his dad was 25 at the time, how would he know?

[@josepablolunasanchez1283]

I am sorry to hear that. It is never easy when loved ones depart.

[@afcgeo882]

@@daveyalbert4839 I never met his dad. My friend, now 44 (same as me), was just born when his father died.

[@CausticLemons7]

"Zones of heavy accent are expected" LMAO! I'm an American from the southern US and I didn't have any trouble understanding you. Thanks for the great content!

[@rogerwilco2]

Indeed.

[@Shelsight]

Completely agree…

[@tski3458]

great story teller. thank you.

[@vernaclevinger5716]

Excellent reporting. Thanks

[@slick4401]

State secrecy taken to the limits serves two purposes: One is denying the enemy of useful information. Two is keeping the leaders' mistakes and poor performance well hidden so their position of privilege cannot be challenged. That is a fundamental principle of any dictatorship.

[@jimkolfaz7581]

State secrecy? Was it rolls of paper or the outrageous prices of the room minibar that caused the Las Vegas shooting? Hiding leader mistakes? We're banging on about vaccine passports while letting thousands of illegals invade. Living in Pravda USSR must have been tough on the regular citizens with so little true information available.

[@TitaniusAnglesmith]

@@jimkolfaz7581 What the hell are you talking about mate? Did you forget your pills today?

[@johndvoracek1000]

Sad, but state secrecy is universal to ALL forms of government, including the world's greatest "democracy" and serves the purpose of keeping the leaders' position of privilege (power) from being challenged.

[@SephirothRyu]

​@@johndvoracek1000 Well, America's system doesn't use secrecy to keep leaders from being challenged. The two party system's issues and its various mechanations and (sometimes intentional) design flaws are no secret. And any sort of secret that could have a whiff of the "scandal" type of secret will be pursued by either party for the sake of making their opponents look bad. I won't say there AREN'T secrets, but most of the things kept secret seem to have fairly little to do with keeping people in power in America.

[@christopherpardell4418]

@@jimkolfaz7581 In the USSR you would never have known that a shooting occurred in las vegas. And the problem in the US is not state secrecy- its that even when a man like Trump is a convicted fraud, serially bankrupt, and infamous for not paying contractors he hired, Even when he is caught red handed committing treason, trying to undermine an election, there are STILL a legion of morons willing to hand him power. In the USSR, you never even found out what was really going on. In the modern USA, everything that is going on is reported, but half the population chooses not to believe it, or care.

[@grogery1570]

The sausage train commentary reminds me of a girlfriend of mine who grew up in East Germany. She loved her father because, living in Berlin, he could get her bananas, but tomatoes were a rare treat. I took her on a picnic and almost got jealous of the looks she gave the tomatoes. She should have been looking at me like that!

[@vivek27789]

😂😂😂😂

[@dpt6849]

She puts bananas and tomatoes in her mouth? How cute🤭

[@conradkai9705]

Just become a tomato! Problem solved.

[@fukpoeslaw3613]

t that can take decades of training! remember we share only like 70% of DNA with tomatoes!

[@Tugela60]

Maybe she thought you looked like a potato instead?

[@Upsidedowndog27]

I absolutely love your videos bro keep up the awesome work

[@AT-ni4sf]

I love your videos and the dark humour in them. Keep up the good work👏👏👍

[@shermanfirefly5410]

I would like to add, that one of the main reasons for such a large shopping list, is that their port lays in the far east, where goods are especially hard to buy as such a long journey of transportation is needed. The generals probably loaded the aircraft with six months worth of groceries.

[@steveperreira5850]

In a reasonable world, even if the admiral out ranks the airplane crew, the crew can, before takeoff, dispute the situation and require a little more time to balance the aircraft and any halfway reasonable admiral will understand. We will never understand the pigheaded stupidness of the Soviet socialist Military system. Except, I will say, I was in the US military in the 1980s, and it was a pretty insane operation then. Seems like the most important thing to do was to salute officers or else they became indignantly offended. My solution was to salute them everywhere, inside buildings too, Which was not required, and I did it to piss them off. I hated the US Air Force, and I still do to this day. I did not do my duty, we were all lazy as shit, and it was only after I left the military that I became a productive citizen.

[@Sean-ut7hy]

⁵4=⁴⁴⁴rř

[@Ninja.Alinja]

@@steveperreira5850 I second that; as a German conscript in 1993, when the army totally lacked any purpose and people did not know what to do with themselves.

[@DavidRinkevich]

@@steveperreira5850 I hear you, I was conscripted to the IDF in 2001 and was assigned to the Ordnance corps as a tank mechanic (with no prior education or experience, mind you) just to fill their quota of heads, I spent the rest of my service half-assing every task they gave me and avoiding them completely when there were no superiors on sight, those weren't the days...

[@planescaped]

@@DavidRinkevich Getting paid to be a professional wrench-holder doesn't sound all bad. :P

[@puffin51]

Way back in the day, I held a loadmaster's certificate for Fokker F-27, F-28 and DC-3, and when it came to load and distribution, my word was law, barring only the approval of the captain, who was subordinate only to God. I _know_ that an attitude like that would lead to utter disaster. No aircraft, not even the DC-3, (the most forgiving plane in the world, ever) can fly grossly overloaded and tail-heavy like that, let alone one like the Tu-104. Pride cometh before a fall, says the scripture, but rarely do you see it happen so literally.

[@Dutch_Uncle]

I had the loadmaster title, but no certificate, on flights with a DC-6 between African cities, mainly to see that the right cargo got off at each stop, and to help with customs as needed. Once the boss flew on a flight, but more as a tourist than a lowly loadmaster, and belly hatches full of canned goods did not get unloaded at the first stop, while additional cargo was loaded for the second stop. This over carriage had the result that the 31,000 pound weight load limit for takeoff was exceeded, and the aircraft ate up a lot of runway before it got off. The crew could see by fuel consumption that the craft was heavy, and harsh words were exchanged. If it had crashed the presence of freight marked for the first stop in the wreckage would have been a clue to the cause, and raised questions about who was in charge of the loading/unloading. Another example of safety rules being written in blood.

[@DanA-fk6tl]

@@Varangian_af_Scaniae It has to be that way in all safety-critical environments. Railways, chemical plants, hospitals etc...I'm sure, according to the Soviet military rule book, the pilot could over-rule the generals. In reality however...well. When people question the value of democracy, a free press, and the rule of law...they need to think on this. Rules is rules and NOBODY is above the rules (Trump, Prince Andrew, Sarkozy, Berlusconi...) but the only way to make it a reality is to be able to hold the bosses to account.

[@xj900uk]

You have to understand though - high ranking Admirals and Generals in the Soviet Union... their word, their law, is above God Himself. They would, as the narrator excellently points out, not only instruct the pilot(s) to take off regardless of his/their reservations, but also to instruct the Laws of Physics not to apply to their plane. But, in this particular case, i am not sure that the Laws of Physics were listening...

[@Calligraphybooster]

@@xj900uk amendments do not apply to laws of physics, you can surely say that out loud.

[@steveperreira5850]

It’s a shame that most of the people killed, of the 50, probably most of them were not culpable. I’m glad the greedy ones were killed, how they look down on the pilots and crew. They deserved to die, but the rest didn’t. Seems there’s no justice here on earth.

[@ABlair-dv3ki]

Very informative and entertaining narrative. A good documentary....Thank you

[@m1co294]

Very similar to National Airlines Flight 102, the cargo inside the plane shifted to the very rear of the cargo bay during takeoff making the plane pitch up violently, stalling and then crashing. It happened on camera too.

[@jacksonthompson7099]

That was the flight in Afghansitan with the MRAPS on board right?

[@theirishempire4952]

@@jacksonthompson7099 yes

[@Thrawn878]

It is similar but there is 3 key difference(s) in that crash. 1) This 747 was not overloaded (IE not loaded beyond its MTOW) 2) The CG shift ALONE was not the cause though a definite contribution to it. 3) The MAIN difference was that once the MRAPS moved around which is obviously very bad by itself was not the nail that killed them. It was the MRAPS at the back smashed through the rear pressure bulkhead into the jackscrew for the horizontal stabilizer breaking it and therefore locking it in it's takeoff configuration I'm not sure how many degrees pitch up it was set for. Once the horizontal stabilizer broke they were doomed because when you push the yolk full forward that's just pushing the elevators down not the stabilizer. The elevators alone at full deflection could not overwhelm the horizontal stabilizer and CG rear heavy (much bigger surface area) pitch up movement it was locked in. I am sure the pilots tried the stab trim repeatedly to nose down to help the elevators but alas it was frozen. This information was discovered from the NTSB investigation because if the stabilizer was working they could have recovered. Apparently they used the sim repeatedly to understand what went wrong and finding paint transfer and matching impact/damage of the jackscrew to the front of an MRAPS was a match confirmed the loss of the stabilizer.

[@vholes2803]

@@Thrawn878 I don't have the background, so I looked up MRAPS. "Mine resistant armor protected vehicles, typically weighing 14-18 tons." Having a 14-18 ton vehicle not secured enough to stop it shifting around on a plane... at the minimum that sounds really scary. 😧

[@julieleimkuehler1409]

​@@Thrawn878 if the load shifted enough to bash through the jack screw, it was indeed the load that was the problem. If it's loaded wrong it's loaded wrong

[@richardpoynton4026]

Your English is flawless - there’s no need for suggested use of subtitles, in my opinion. Very interesting and informative clip.

[@IstasPumaNevada]

It's not flawless. :) But it is quite good. And different people have differing skills at understanding accents too, so while I could understand the video fine, I'm glad the subtitles are there for others.

[@Moses_VII]

Even with a proper British accent, there might be a mistake in recording which could make a word difficult to hear, hence the need for subtitles. Also, watching a video muted, or very quietly.

[@irresponse]

Subtitles are useful: -for watching muted -for foreigners like me who is still learning English and don't quite understand all that the locutor says (he speaks beautifully, but it's still an alien language for me to hear) -for deaf people -for watching the video in the thumbnail of the KZbin app while listening to music from other app It's always better to have proper subtitles, specially if we'll written by the author like these (not auto generated). People who don't like subtitles can simply turn it off

[@gglreallysucks5512]

His English is better than most Americans - they can’t spell “humour”, “colour”, and they use words like “sidewalk” and “trash can”. This guy actually knows how to speak properly

[@mickald4473]

and for the hard of hearing, the subtitles really help

[@tski3458]

Great channel. Very detailed.

[@msandersen]

Excellent mini-doco!

[@eintsius]

Good one! A friend of mine(55yo now) served in USSR air forces and told me about 2 incidences which were legend in their service: 1. A "churka" (some mountaineer Karabahh origin soldier) who was doing maintenance in a fighter in a bombing shelter decided to sit in the aircraft and pull hard on the lever which said "pull hard!" it was ejection handle. He flew against the roof of the concrete shelter and had to be wiped of from there. 2. A bit more richer "churka" wanted to fly with a bomber. He offered the aircrew a jewellry for joyride. The pilots put him into bomb compartment with excuse that there is no space for him in cockpit. Then they drove around the airstrip with throttle on-throttle-off to imitate the flying, but not taking off really, to avoid any harm to him. Finally they got bit excited and decided to open the bombing doors with engines screaming to give the "passanger" an extra adrenaline. The passanger died due to shock on-site: heartfailure due to fear off falling off the bomber in mid air. Both crewmember were sent to "strafbat" which was a Hard labour camp-style battalion in far north Siberia where only the convicted soldiers, political dissidents, criminals etc served. Their pilots career ended there. Another one from my own father (74yo, served around 1967). There was a constant hunger and underfeeding in USSR army. Therefore the people who served there had to find clever ways to find or steal food. Hunting a deer from woods, in autumn cleaning villages apple trees etc. was very common. They had a large tank (about 3m or 10 feet high) for winter time with salty pickles for the whole battalion. Once the pickle tank was finally eaten empty for the spring, they found a missing soldier, who had drowned in there. The soldier had been thought gone awol in autumn. He went to steal the pickles and had fallen into the tank. Father summary was: "so the whole batallion pretty much piuked".

[@keirfarnum6811]

Wow! Pickled soldier! Yum! 😆

[@Rapscallion2009]

RIP the flight crew. They were in an impossible bind.

[@Dutch_Uncle]

Crew members of aircraft used by African rulers are also forced to compromise to meet VIP schedules or whims.

[@thegunner7942]

@@Dutch_Uncle made up stories by americans, just to make people hate the russians

[@tomyost6330]

@@thegunner7942 I don't think that's accurate. If there was truth to a story, then it's true, not made up. I really don't think Americans, as a whole, think of making up stories to make Russians look bad. I don't think the vast majority of Americans want to be enemies with Russia. But!.... There are always a few in any part of the world who will try to instigate trouble, even from the US. Please keep in mind the vast majority do not accept that behavior. Peace.

[@Dutch_Uncle]

@@thegunner7942 No, the third world command pressures are even more intense. A pilot bounced from flying the president or prime minister of an autocratic third world country would also lose his government housing, a nice school for his children, his pension, and his status as a member of the presidential party. There are enough true stories that there is no need to invent them, especially about Africa. How does the African connection make people hate Russians? That the get-it-done-for-the-Big Guy attitude is not purely a second or third world problem is is illustrated by the crash killing US Secretary of Commerce Ron Brown and 32 others while attempting to land in Croatia. From Wikipedia, the accident report, note especially failure of command and violation of sfety standards: Zagreb Pleso Airport, Čilipi Airport Dubrovnik, Crash Site St John's Hill Location of crash site and departure and destination airports Summary of the NDB approach to runway 12 from the USAF accident report The official US Air Force accident investigation board report noted several reasons that led the Boeing CT-43A, callsign "IFO-21" (short for Implementation Force),[4] to crash.[5] Chief among the findings was a "failure of command, aircrew error and an improperly designed instrument approach procedure". The inclement weather was not deemed a substantial contributing factor in the crash.[6] The Boeing CT-43A used for this flight was formerly a T-43A navigator training aircraft that was converted for distinguished visitor travel. The flight was on an instrument flight rules non-directional beacon (NDB) approach, which is a non-precision type of instrument approach, to Runway 12 when it strayed off course. Non-precision approaches are those that do not incorporate vertical guidance.[7] While NDB approaches are essentially obsolete in the United States, they are still used widely in other parts of the world. Because of their infrequent use in the United States, many American pilots are not fully proficient in performing them (a NASA survey showed that 60% of American transport-rated pilots had not flown an NDB approach in the last year).[3] The investigation board determined that the approach used was not approved for Department of Defense aircraft, and should not have been used by the aircraft crew.[8] The board determined that the particular NDB approach used required two operating ADFs, the instrument used to fly such an approach, on board the aircraft, but this aircraft only had one ADF installed. To successfully fly the approach, one ADF was required to track the outbound course of 119° from the Koločep NDB (KLP), while another ADF was required to observe when the aircraft had flown beyond the Cavtat NDB (CV), which marked the missed approach point. The alternative available to the crew was to repeatedly switch their one ADF between the signals at the KLP and CV beacons, though this would add further workload and stress to the crew.[9] Further, the board noted that the approach was rushed, with the aircraft flying at 80 knots (150 km/h) above the proper final approach speed and had not received the proper landing clearance from the control tower.[8]

[@azgarogly]

@@Dutch_Uncle Frankly, bending a safety rules for personal comfort is not specific to autocratic countries, but for all types of autocratic systems. Western military structures, governments or corporations (!) are quite notorious for that also. Western pilot also might bend the rules when high profile corporate CEO tells offers him an alternative, to take off or get out and work for the airline. There are numerous examples when safety was ignored by corporations to make more profit.

[@nicolaasfourie]

Brilliantly done.

[@Baddy187]

The modern version of "let's steal so much of the enemies loot we can't move and defend ourself"

[@SuperPershing-pl1xt]

IL-104 crew: Gets berated IL-104: I'm about to end these men's whole careers

[@ChannelHypermach]

TU-104*

[@arcturionblade1077]

"Losing one admiral is a tragedy. Losing 16 admirals at once is a statistic." - Stalin, probably (not really)

[@Realitygetreal]

this made me think of How Stalin almost cost the soviet union WW2 before it started with his officer purging

[@WalkthroughGameMaste]

@@Realitygetreal thats how red communist clowns work

[@josephdelatorre3751]

They are now in the company of stalin, and we know where that's at.👿

[@josephdelatorre3751]

@@Realitygetreal That's why he was purged himself.😜

[@cafson7940]

“Losing one admiral is a tragedy. Losing 16 at once means they were all traitors and I absolutely definitely had to purge them.” -Stalin maybe

[@cd5433]

I just gotta say your the only KZbinr I can sit down and watch multiple times

[@rickmcdonald1557]

Excellent Video and now I'm a new subscriber and thanks for your work on this.