"Overgrowth Deck" Only: Pokémon Red Version

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Can I beat Pokémon Red using only the Pokémon that appear in the 'Overgrowth' TCG deck? Let's take it a step further...I can also only using the moves that those Pokémon use. How awful is this going to be and what am I doing?
Very special thanks to The Vizzi's Arsonist as Spike, Kibby's Ghost as Dr. Matthews, The Vizzi's Plumber as The Receptionist and Milton McShade on vocals for 'Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs.'
Title Sequence by Joshua C. Griffin.
#pokemon #pokemonchallenges #pokemonred

[@ferrugemj18]

Can't wait for the Lore of the ParaVerse get so out of hand Game Theory has to do a video on it.

[@Paraspectre]

Haha I would be so honored

[@Glennleo2]

Matt was secretly MattPat ALL along!

[@Zorgdub]

The "cease and desist" joke had me laughing out loud. :D

[@Paraspectre]

It’s like, I can’t just steal running jokes in peace you know?

[@fredranzalot4849]

There is no freeze in the card game, it's represented by paralysis which is why star freeze paralyzes to begin with, so I'd say ice beam makes sense.

[@Paraspectre]

This is true. If only there was a weaker Ice attack it could learn. 20 damage is pretty low. But Ice Beam ended up being kind of essential

[@KidOmega-iv4tp]

Yep, that was my thinking, too

[@linkmastr001]

Nice MDB references. I'm sure he'd be flattered.

[@emptybusseat4901]

I cant believe you came up with that completely original fossil joke yourself. Its a hilarious completely original joke and I've never heard it before anywhere else

[@Paraspectre]

Yes….it was me all along…

[@drascia]

OMG THE CEASE AND DESIST IM SCREAMING

[@brandonbouquillon2742]

I swear I heard Mahdry snort-laugh in my mind

[@drascia]

These opening scenes are masterpieces. I'd honestly love a whole series of your adventures with Spike.

[@Paraspectre]

Haha I’m glad to hear that! I mentioned this on Twitter, but Spike is always going to be voiced by somebody different. Sometimes friends of mine, sometimes fans of the channel, sometimes other content creators

[@loulou3676]

I can't get over how high quality this is. The whole intro video, the backgrounds, etc. Super cool challenge idea. Look forward to seeing more!

[@Paraspectre]

Wow I appreciate that compliment! I’m trying to pay more attention to small details

[@OtakuJuanma2]

For future challenge would be good adding the rule that you only adhere to the proper rules as soon as you get a permited move is learned. In this for example you'd be able to start the game using tackle and growl, but you MUST learn leech seed or capture a Weedle as soon as realistically possible. You know, the same way nuzlokes only adhere to the "one per route" rule when they get their first PokeBall(s)

[@Paraspectre]

For future challenges, absolutely. I really only didn’t do it here because I could catch Weedle before ever gaining any experience with Bulbasaur. But that won’t always be the case for sure

[@adamwilson1691]

now you have to do it with brushfire, blackout and zap decks

[@Paraspectre]

I looked into it. They all have more Pokémon to manage than Overgrowth does

[@4fives992]

This was a neat concept for a video. The intro and outro were great. I would never have guessed Matthew has a medical license considering how much he blew on packs after he lost to you. I wish I had his credit line. I recently started up a playthrough of Pokemon HeartGold and I decided to add a Sandshrew to my team. I wanted to name it in honor of you. II was a female so I figured since your channel is a combination of James Bond and Pokemon I should do something similiar with the name. I ended up naming it Sandy Galore but since there wasn't enough spaces for the name I had to shorten it to SandyGalor. She's been kicking ass so far.

[@Paraspectre]

I love Sandy Galore. Maybe that should be the name of my stuffed Sandshrew

[@TheLetterJ0]

At this rate, Paraspectre will release a feature-length film starring Spike and Matthew sometime next year.

[@KibbysGhost]

I’d go see it

[@Paraspectre]

Don’t tempt me!

[@minty9245]

Where did all this lore come from 🤣

[@Paraspectre]

My first ever TCG challenge. I just kept building on its stupidity 😅

[@christiandevey3898]

I hope spike gets well soon

[@KibbysGhost]

Thoughts and prayers to Spike 🙏

[@Paraspectre]

He’s off the Revival Herb now

[@torbenrabe2057]

Its makes the video even moore better cause you put the music from the TCG in the game.

[@Paraspectre]

I’m glad that stuck out haha. I never know if I have the music too loud or too quiet for it to be noticeable

[@JDBerggreen]

I have two ideas for challanges in TGC: The Ash% taken from pokémon yellow. Basically you have to have the team Ash was using against every gym member in the anime. Either by pretending Amy is Misty and so on, or by using the ROM hack (that can be found somewhere on the internet) where all the gym masters are changed to that of the Kanto gym leaders. It's up to you how close you wan't the follow the challenge ect. if you feel like getting the 30 Tauros like in the anime or not. ;) The other challenge I have for you is basically a nuzlocke. Everytime you lose a fight you can't use the pokémons in that deck anymore. You can choose if you wan't to ban the species entirely or just the number of them you used (ect. if you lose with a deck including 3 Pikachu and you have 5 in your collection to last 2 are still usable). I've tried to do the same thing with energies and trainers but that makes the challenge too hard and basically makes it a no death run challenge. Another restriction for keeping you from spamming poor Matthew: You can only fight each trainer one time each. I recommend starting with the Imakumi fight (saving the game and reset), followed by one battle with the energy dude! Hope you like my ideas and are up for the challenge! :)

[@Paraspectre]

So I don’t want to give anything away… but my next challenge is literally one of these. It’s already underway. You are psychic type

[@JDBerggreen]

​@@Paraspectre That's awesome! Call me the Mimebro then! Looking forward to see witch one it is! :D The hacking scene on TGC is quitle limited. I've only been able to find 2. The Mint's adventure and the Kanto hack. Mint's adventure is just you beeing able to play as Mint from the second game in the first game. The Kanto hack has new attacks and spritework on all cards as well as matching red/blue in many aspects. But i'm sure you already knew all this stuff! Hope you'll have time to talk about the Kanto hack someday. :)

[@pikapuffin368]

Oh the ParaVerse is getting crazy

[@Paraspectre]

Like with the Star Wars sequel trilogy, I’m planning it out as I go 😎

[@bitemytail]

"I got Covid whi-" KZbin: Demonitized.

[@Paraspectre]

Haha this did go through my mind when I said it but.. all is well 😅

[@SourceOfBeing]

"Freeze" doesn't exist in the TCG game. "Paralysis" is the closest thing.

[@Paraspectre]

This is true. Even more of a reason to go with Ice Beam

[@plsmorecats]

I can't handle the suspense of not knowing which fossil you took

[@Paraspectre]

I’m more of an Omastar guy

[@Ddoublechin]

I loved this video idea, it was fun and lighthearted. I love how you can only use the moves in the cards!

[@Paraspectre]

I feel like I should do more of these. Either different decks or different games

[@randaljr.8581]

@@Paraspectre yes please!!

[@djkates1916]

18:32 The game *says* Vine Whip isn't very effective, but that's actually a glitch. Because of the way the game determines whether to show a type-effectiveness message, whenever a move is super-effective against one of a Pokémon's types and not-very-effective against the other, the game will erroneously display either a super-effective or a not-very-effective message (based on which matchup it checked first; it checks them in a set order). However, the move will in fact do neutral damage, and this will be applied correctly in damage calculation. The low damage was simply a matter of the numbers involved -- Ivysaur has decent-but-not-great Special and is using a weak move, while Gyarados has high Special and HP.

[@redbeardrpg]

this was a fun take on the Pokemon challenge format. great work!!

[@hawkticus_history_corner]

Vine Whip was super effective. Its doing the correct damage its just a display glitch. But yes, its Gen 1.

[@Paraspectre]

In the end, it was very much… not very effective

[@hawkticus_history_corner]

@@Paraspectre So it was technically correct, the best kind of correct.

[@noahsmith613]

Well, it is a display glitch, and it is doing the correct damage, but it was only neutral, not super effective

[@mmw3330]

@@noahsmith613 exactly 😉

[@XellossBoi]

Paraspectre, I don't know what confluence of events transpired in the world to make you as amazing as you are, but I'm thankful for that miracle.

[@shanoc5902]

So in regards to Brock, you probably should have opened with Bulbasaur to leech seed Geodude putting it on a 16 turn time limit. From there you could probably switch your pokemon and use the limited number of potions around to stall for time (and maybe attack with Beedrill if he was out and at good health to hopefully get Brock to use a Full Heal which would cure the poison but not the leech seed). Then come Onix you do the same thing. Between the Defense Curls, Screeches, Bides, and healing that Leech seed gives (not to mention the occasional potion) this would allow you to win, but instead of stalling for turns with Growl which isn't in the deck, you'd have stalled with switching and potions which are in the deck. Also I agree with your move replacements, the only one that I think that you could add would potentially be replacing flail on Magikarp with Splash (as it moves similarly and is the only move that could replace flail). Not that this would help much but it'd just mean that if you wanted to stall for turns using Splash it'd still be within the rules. Edit: Also the reason Koga was really dumb, Koga has 'good AI' this means that when he sees a super-effective move he'll always go for it, however the AI is bugged in the same way the text-box is bugged. It checks the interaction of poison attacks vs the bug type before poison attacks vs poison types, so he sees that since poison is super effective against bugs he will only use poison attacks, and items, against Beedrill thinking it's super effective despite being neutrally effective. This is also the reason that Beedrill and Ivysaur will also be able to basically trivialize Lance later as his Dragonite and Dragonairs know Agility and Barrier, so they'll only ever use those moves since they're technically super-effective (and given that the AI has unlimited PP they'll never run out).

[@johnzale7748]

I would use 6 metapods

[@Paraspectre]

That’s true, switching out is in a way a “do nothing” button. Ah well, either way, I’m still waiting around many turns for Leech Seed to knock them out anyway

[@brookscato3491]

The border was a nice touch

[@Paraspectre]

Thanks! I used to play with that Red border on my Super Game Boy. The fact that they are cards seemed like an opportunity to do this

[@BrokenVHS]

I was waiting for the song to say "tossed salads and Parasects" but it never came.

[@Paraspectre]

The vocalist added in the “what is a shroom boi to do” on his own.

[@kirasommers7211]

read this comment in the same song from Frasier and dying lmao

[@CyanShock]

Cool concept for a challenge run.

[@ShadowGeo117]

PRAISE HELIX

[@CelticGuardian7]

Fun idea for a run! Imagine if you had to stick with the levels on the cards too. Level 23 Kakuna, heeeeeck yeah.

[@dpower6402]

I feel like this was a really cool and original idea. I was 7 or 8 when the tcg came out in the US and instead of an allowance my dad would bring me 3 packs and a Holo card every Saturday.

[@Paraspectre]

THREE packs? Dang, that’s awesome. I once opened a pack that my mom bought me and asked if we could return it. My brother loves that story

[@CDX23]

The Mah Dry Bread stabs tho lol

[@Paraspectre]

Not sure if he’s seen the video yet haha

[@CDX23]

@@Paraspectre shame. Lol.

[@BryantVonMiller]

This intro was hilarious, absolutely had me rolling. Best one you've had yet!

[@Paraspectre]

Why thanks! We all get a little worried when Spike takes a big spill

[@erikedelkamp473]

ALL HAIL LORD HELIX! FOR IT HAS RISEN!!

[@toxicliight1337]

The cease and desist got me good! keep it up man I'm loving your stuff!

[@canaldecasta]

The more I think about Parasect the worse it gets. Ok, the fungus takes over. But to what degree? Is there any "Paras" left at all? And the new host is sentient. Is it Its own being? Or adopts where Paras left off? How much of Paras is actually in Parasect. Does the fungi knows it is one? Could it be that both beings were fused into our crusty friend? What means to be one self. What means to be.

[@Paraspectre]

Apparently, the bug part is completely dead. No past self remains. Spike, however, is the best friend anyone could ask for.

[@steelballrunner636]

But which fossil did you take? 🤔 And will the algorithm be pleased!?!?!?

[@Paraspectre]

I did everything you asked, algorithm. 🙏🏻

[@kangaskdan]

Very cool concept for a challenge run :D and I loved the intro, time for me to binge all your stuff now!

[@Paraspectre]

Haha please do! I hope you enjoy them

[@marlysalt]

I'm glad Spike is doing better, and good luck suing for malpractice and criminal negligence.

[@Paraspectre]

Spike IS doing better

[@Robolewa]

What a clever setup for a challenge run video. I knew Gyarados > Magikarp but I never before considered how it grows 10 times as long and weighs 25 times as much. What was in those candies you fed it?!

[@bmetz42]

I was oddly disappointed when I saw “not sponsored by Life Alert” pop up

[@KibbysGhost]

I’ll start a petition to get Life Alert to sponsor Paraspectre

[@Paraspectre]

Hey, me too! Give me a ring sometime, Life Alert

[@hggfhh4449]

Using grow is the equivalent of choosing not to attack in the card game . Which is allowed.

[@ryanbowen4029]

This is phenomenal and I can't understand how you can keep upping the quality video after video, and yet you do

[@Paraspectre]

Haha this is nice to hear, thank you. Just a dude playing pretend with his stuffed animals. It’s what KZbin is all about

[@j.baader670]

I love the MDB joke 🤣 Btw the opening scenes. It would blow my mind if they all come together in a continuous story. Slice of life of you two. I love your content. Please please continue with what you do and save my day with joy and laughter

[@Paraspectre]

Oh it’s all one story.. except Spike is always voiced by somebody different

[@Ddoublechin]

Praise helix

[@SourceOfBeing]

Until you started talking about levels, I was thinking you'd be playing the TCG game with the Overgrowth deck.

[@Paraspectre]

That actually WAS my original plan but I got the idea to take it to Gen 1

[@jerryreed6024]

Gotta say I come for challenges stay for the intro bits

[@Paraspectre]

I’m glad some people like them 😅

[@GabrielLopez-zr7gz]

This video was stupidly fun to watch. Honestly, this was such an odd challenge and yet, it worked? Great video!

[@Paraspectre]

Stupidly fun is what I go for 😎

[@WWEdeadman]

That's a really cool challenge idea. Good job. Edit: I also laughed way too hard at the cease and desist for the fossil gag.

[@CrazyDave12]

Vine whip is actually considered neutral effective against gyarados, a glitch just says it’s not very effective

[@thunderhammerx2966]

Take the Dome Fossil; glory to the Dome.

[@Paraspectre]

Hard disagree. Ok, not really. Kabutops is pretty awesome. I just prefer Omastar.

[@lazerbeam134]

Heretic! Infidel! Blasphemer! Lord Helix demands tribute

[@ElChaseReturns]

I'm rewatching your stuff and I This is the second time "...prefers dark places" when talking to/about Parasect cracked me up

[@gamingwithfoss]

So many fantastic parts to this video. Another fantastic cringe-worthy intro (which I absolutely love btw), the MDB reference, the dry humor. I love it! Keep doing what you do, can’t wait to see more

[@Paraspectre]

I appreciate this! I feel like the intros could go either way, so I’m glad people like them

[@dragapultvmax3594]

Honestly bro i believe that u stuck with the rules in the grinding u put so much effort into these hard challenges how can people doubt u. Also the intro was amazing 👏

[@Paraspectre]

Why thank you! And yes, I didn’t deviate even through grinding

[@coldfrostzero2000]

According to the Helix Chamber, Star Freeze was possibly Starmie's Signature Move originally and was replaced by Rock Slide (why the sound effect sounds a bit off.) That the card game was developed at the same time was the original game hence they have moves that didn't make it into the game fully, but ended up on the card as it was developed before the release of Red/Green

[@Paraspectre]

Very interesting. It would’ve been awesome if more Pokémon had signature moves back then

[@coldfrostzero2000]

@@Paraspectre considering there were 39 Pokémon that didn't make the cut and tons of moves, it would be interesting to see what the original Kanto was going to be like with the capsule idea as well.

[@DaermaeonBranKor]

What a fun idea for a challenge! I can’t wait to see this in more modern games with generational decks. Well done, sir!

[@Paraspectre]

I feel like I probably should try more eh?

[@DaermaeonBranKor]

@@Paraspectre For sure, if you’d like! Also, it could be pretty cool to see which of the starter decks would be better in the play through unchanged.

[@eshasunrise]

If you do make another TCG team, I'd recommend using moves from the previous evolutions, just so you can mitigate Ivysaur situations.

[@Paraspectre]

I debated on it, but you can’t do that with the cards. Also I only missed out on Leech Seed, Tackle and Tackle 😅

[@geologist1235]

Spike is wholesome.

[@Paraspectre]

I couldn’t ask for a better friend, you know?

[@wildtofurkey1013]

Great challenge and video Man! Love the Frasier ending :D

[@Paraspectre]

Frasier is my happy show

[@wildtofurkey1013]

@@Paraspectre expect it, sir, and demand it!

[@KibbysGhost]

That receptionist sounds like a duplo block

[@johnzale7748]

Hahahaha

[@LiShuBen]

Really cool idea! I hope you do more episodes with the other theme decks

[@orionsnecrosis7698]

Another absolute banger

[@jenisia3600]

Glad that you did this man 👍. Hahaha Matthew strikes again. Man love that Overgrowth art.

[@Paraspectre]

It’s hard to remember if I picked the Overgrowth deck out of all of the options or it was the only one they had left. Either way, I also love that box art

[@bepstein111]

You're getting really good at this. Keep it up dude.

[@Paraspectre]

Why thanks!

[@bepstein111]

@@Paraspectre Of course, and I don't mean to imply you were ever bad. I used to teach filmmaking to high schoolers and adults, and these videos are better than a lot of their projects lmao

[@kappakaitv4801]

This was a fun idea for a video! I'll be excited if you do other crossover challenges in the future

[@Paraspectre]

I think I just may. Probably not on Red though.

[@Jforest02]

Good stuff dude. Definitely a unique challenge team idea.

[@Jforest02]

Oh, and I forgot to say. That was a most excellent Fraiser ending tune parody. I come for the Pokémon content and stay for the 90s/early 00s content.

[@twyliiight8546]

Gen 1 usually bores me to tears because it's so janky and easy but you actually managed to make it interesting. Good shit.

[@Paraspectre]

Why thank you! I did find myself not having much to say after these uneventful Gen 1 gyms

[@garrett7261]

Awesome video keep up the great videos

[@randym3910]

I didn’t know you had that kind of production budget. Good job.

[@Paraspectre]

The simple cost of an iPhone and free editing software 💁🏻‍♂️

[@actiongiraffe9003]

These live action segments are getting insane! Oh god! Oh man!

[@robertcrist6059]

This was a neat idea. If there is another one you come up with, I think that would be cool.

[@joshuabogart3976]

Sorry to hear you got sick. Hope you'll be ok and get well soon. I look forward to your next challenge video

[@Paraspectre]

I’m so much better than I was a week ago, thank you

[@joshuabogart3976]

@@Paraspectre thats good to hear.

[@Y0G0FU]

Oh no Matthew is back for Revenge D:

[@Paraspectre]

Dr. Matthews was really Matthew all along

[@br000ly]

More theme decks like these would be sweet

[@lazerbeam134]

Lord Helix must always be chosen

[@biggle_man]

praise helix

[@WodkaEclair]

this is great :) attempts with other decks would be awesome :)

[@InternetLad]

It's legitimately amazing how well this man makes dead memes work for him.

[@Paraspectre]

Haha are the memes dead? 😨

[@PatchyConvert]

Imagine doing this but nuzlocke style! With all pokemon available, of course.

[@Paraspectre]

Wowww… now there’s an idea…

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

I love this

[@joefarrow1599]

Oh yeah Helix Fossil!! This was a great challenge, I would watch one for another TCG starter deck

[@Paraspectre]

I actually started writing a new one! I just kinda got distracted making side videos.

[@joefarrow1599]

@@Paraspectre oh awesome, I'm looking forward to it. Your channel is great the humour is really on point

[@SethTheXenocide]

All hail the dark lord's fossil! Also I do like the idea of themed team runs. Doesn't even always have to be something as restrictive and hard as this one, but I do enjoy themed challenges.

[@Paraspectre]

Except for when it was super annoying, it was kinda fun being restricted to only an attack or two

[@leonfire99]

Took me way too long to realize you were editing in the tcg victory theme

[@Paraspectre]

It’s only TCG music here!

[@Zutentu]

Love the storyline

[@Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU]

Paraspectre gets COVID OH MAN! OH GOD! OH MAN! OH GOD OH MAN! OH GOD!

[@EJsGameplay]

Did not expect a Fraiser reference, nice!

[@Paraspectre]

One of my favorite shows of all time

[@donutmonk]

Oh god oh man. Oh god, oh man. Ohgodohman. OH GOD-

[@lordskyline9766]

For Starmie I would argue that Tri-Attack would have been a more fitting replacement for Star Freeze. It has a chanche to paralyse (alongside burn and freeze, but who cares) and Star Freeze needs 2 colorless energy and all normal type pokemon are colorless, so It would fit better from that angle as well.

[@djkates1916]

Tri Attack doesn't have a secondary effect in Gen 1. If it did, you'd have a good point there.

[@Paraspectre]

I pretty much did overlook Tri Attack, but yeah, no paralysis

[@anthonyoyola7274]

Hey buddy There was a pc in the room after Giovanni for that masterball lol

[@Paraspectre]

Haha is there really? I don’t think I ever knew that

[@17Master]

18:34 The "Not very effective" message is a text error. Grass attacks still do neutral damage to Gyarados, it just has a very high Special stat it does not take a lot from a weak attack like Vine Whip. Hope your recovery is swift and safe.

[@NecromancyForKids]

It's because the type effectiveness message only checks certain types. So if a Pokémon has two types, it will only display the message for one of them. But the damage is still calculated as it should be for effectiveness.

[@Paraspectre]

I believe I’m all better, thank you! And the game isn’t really lying. Vine Whip was absolutely not very effective

[@GustavoFernandesKing]

Nice video!

[@lordmcbutterfingers3300]

Ok so IDK how much you know about Gen 1's janky mechanics, but since there was no explanation when they came up I'll play teacher here for you or anyone in the comments. So when the text said NOT VERY EFFECTIVE when you vine whipped the Gayrados, that is actually a glitch. So every dual type pokemon is listed in the game's memory as a signal type for display purposes NOT calculations, so your vine whip did the proper amount of damage. The display thinks Gayrados is a pure flying type, but the calculator knows better. When Koga's Muk spammed poison gas, that is a guaranteed behavior if your pokemon is "weak" to poison moves. All major boss fights in Red and Blue have what is known as "Good AI", simply meaning that they won't use moves randomly like trainers and wild pokemon. The "Good AI" tells the bosses to use super effective moves only, but the AI only sees 1 type if your pokemon is dual type AND the AI doesn't check if the move will does damage (If it has no super effective moves or multiple it will randomly choose between them). So in your scenario, the AI only saw that Beedrill is a bug type (Bug and Poison were super effective agaisnt eachother in Gen 1), and Koga's Muk knows 2 poison moves, Smog and Sludge. It picked randomly between those two so you got kinda lucky it used smog twice. If any of Ya'll wanna learn more about Gen 1 mechanics I'd recommend you binge Jrose11 and Scott's Thoughts' Gen 1 solo challenge videos. Now Jrose11 does Red and Blue challenges and Scott's Thoughts does Yellow version. Most of the janky stuff is the same, bit there are some differences so I say cgeck them both out

[@Paraspectre]

Yeah there’s a lot of craziness to Gen 1. I mostly wanted to point out when it happened for entertainment rather than explain why it’s happening ☺️

[@Zorgdub]

Vine Whip being Not Very Effective against Gyarados: this is just a bug with the text display, damage is calculated properly at neutral effectiveness.

[@seanhearn9616]

Please do this with all the old decks!

[@Paraspectre]

I’m really thinking about it…

[@KrimsonSpeed]

I dont remember it being mentioned, but Pink Floyd did a great job here ;)

[@lazerbeam134]

You can probably use HMs for utility in a challenge like this

[@Ryu_D]

Thank you for the video.

[@johnzale7748]

Ahahaha Dr Mathews is great

[@Paraspectre]

(Prefers damp places)

[@jenisia3600]

Man i love Spearow being in the team only to serve with Fly 😂. Question, are u gonna do this challenge for TCG game?

[@Paraspectre]

I originally was only going to do this challenge on TCG. I switched it to Red on a whim when I got the idea to try it