Pokémon Gold & Silver Versions - A Pokémon Paraspective

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The journey continues. I will be taking a look at EVERY official Pokémon video game release in exact North American order. All 66+ games. Eighth is Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions, kicking off the Generation Two era. Oh yes, it's a big one.
Introduction and "Where's That Pokémon?" by BrokenVHS
#pokemon #pokemongoldandsilver #paraspective

[@guineapigs2998]

The sheer amazement at finishing the elite 4 and then finding I could run through Kanto as well remains the biggest gaming twist ive experienced

[@Paraspectre]

I remember thinking the game did feel kinda short. And then discovering this…

[@daetur]

Pokemon Silver is still my most beloved Pokemon game, and Lugia is still my favorite legendary. I remember my grandpa told my elementary school that I had a dentist appointment so we could leave early and go to Pokemon 2000, because I REALLY wanted to get one of the limited Ancient Mew cards. I still have it!

[@Paraspectre]

Wow I remember those cards! The stone looking graphics of it. I didn’t have one myself

[@gabrieldevoogel6225]

@@Paraspectre may I make a request of you? I’d like you to do a comprehensive look at each region map as you explore them in game and analyze what stuff is there please! Your so comprehensive yet casual I love it so so much!

[@bapjap]

My favorite generation. Gold, Silver and Crystal can’t beat any other iteration of this game

[@andreguerreroAG]

that GS intro is just more proof that Johto Pokemon were viewed mostly as bonus Pokemon and secondary to the original 151. Explains why so few Johto gym leaders even use native Pokemon and why so many in game landmarks are tributes to Kanto Pokemon (Slowpoke Well, Sprout Tower etc). I think gamefreak was going with the discovery angle; that these new mons were just being newly discovered, partially by the player themselves.

[@Paraspectre]

It’s an interesting perspective knowing what we know now. New Pokémon are just like.. yeah we found this new island

[@TheLazySage7]

The Keychain thing for the car is adorable and badass!

[@Paraspectre]

It will remain Mega Houndoom until I sell the car

[@wangchung2157]

I literally subscribed to the channel last week cause of your Pokémon video game paraspectives and was hoping youd do GSC sooner rather than later and boom my wishes were answered. I love GSC I still play my original copy of Gold on my N64 with Pokemon Stadium 2 its the best a the extras make a complete experience

[@Paraspectre]

Perfect timing and welcome! I have many…many more parts to get through 🥂

[@DrewRitz]

I thought you could only find a Paras in France, I'm not great with geography though

[@nicegan8902]

I remember playing a Japanese rom of Gold months before it came out. I had no idea what was going on but it was fun!

[@Paraspectre]

Haha I can just imagine you getting assaulted by your rival and having no idea why

[@Griffnix]

I remember when this was out in Japan and Pojo Magazine was doing a monthly diary style article on GS. It was so interesting. Eggs, a phone, the new Pokémon and a different colored Gyarados. I couldn't wait. I got Silver and a gameboy color for Christmas and played it so much!

[@dosdorquesgaming]

IAh, the Gen 2 games. Funny story, Silver was the first pokemon game I ever bought, but I have played Pokemon Blue before that. How is that possible? I promised a kid on the bus I rode the day before I was to stop riding the bus that I would trade him a rare pokemon card for it. So, he gave we the game and I never saw him again. Until 9 years later when we were passing each other in the local groceries. He looked at me and said plainly, "you still owe me that rare card." I burst out laughing and agreed. We've been friends ever since.

[@Paraspectre]

That’s awesome. Any idea what the card was?

[@dosdorquesgaming]

@@Paraspectre A holo Arcanine I think. When I asked him why he said that it looked like the dog he had. Archi, (the dog) passed away a year ago, but had a small litter of pups. I got one and named it Nola. XD

[@pablodelgado7919]

Man, looking back at the boxart and back made me shed a tear. I'll always remember when my mother bought me a lime green Gameboy Color and with it both Pokémon Gold & Crystal for having good grades in school. Those were the happiest moments of my life as a kid, reading the manuals "despite not knowing anything of English back then" although the drawings of the characters was what truly caught my attention over and over was such a treat for my young mind.

[@Paraspectre]

That’s awesome and makes me glad that I discuss the boxes. It’s part of the experience ☺️

[@TheBalthassar]

Show of hands for those who totally didn't get the hint and named their rival ??? ✋

[@Paraspectre]

Haha I wonder if I did that when I first got the game

[@E_X_I_T]

Killing it dude! Hope the channel keeps growing

[@Paraspectre]

Me too ☺️ thank you for checking these out

[@E_X_I_T]

No worries 🖤 I’ll be around for the long haul. Every video is great. Going to marathon them all soon

[@Ciritheragdoll]

KZbin's algorythm be hitting me with this content like.... it's working? how? finally... keep it coming

[@Paraspectre]

Haha I’m glad it’s working more in my favor now 😅

[@Sad-Lesbian]

Man, you talking about the pre release gets me real nostalgic. Not about these games, but about how marketing used to be handled. Nowadays it's just sponsorships and aggressive Internet ads...

[@Paraspectre]

We didn’t even have a computer in 2000 so it felt more special. I probably found out about these games from Nintendo Power or something

[@TopHatGames1]

The houndoom bit is genuinely adorable

[@Paraspectre]

Mega Houndoom will be going to the Pokémon Center for an oil change and inspection this weekend!

[@SagaciousSilence]

I was right in the middle of pokemania when I was about eight or nine years old. I was there when the best kids meal toys ever were sold at BurgerKing. I was there at the movie release of Pokémon the first movie. I was there right when red and blue hit stores and everyone went absolutely bonkers over these games. It was truly like nothing else. Everything revolved around this franchise at that point in time and you literally could not find a kid who wasn’t completely invested in it. It was really cool because it was sort of like the very first social game ever. It wasn’t just some video game that people liked or some cartoon show that was popular. It was an entire way of socializing with each other.

[@Paraspectre]

This is very true. And I wish I talked about the BK toys when I should have. That was such a big deal among my friends group.

[@atemzorc]

Gen 2 was my starting point on the video games, Pokémon Crystal to be exact. I was gifted the green GBC along with Crystal on Xmas of 2001, I was 7. Now we're old af and still playing 🤣 I like these videos.

[@Paraspectre]

I still have a lot of fun going back to the GBC games

[@orionsnecrosis7698]

Always so glad to see another video by you. Great job as always!

[@JustJulyo]

This game confirmed my life love obsession with Pokémon Only for Sword and shield to break it

[@Paraspectre]

Haha oh wow. Sword and Shield are far from my favorites, but I had some fun. With that said, I’ve only played through Sword the one time…

[@MrSkeltal268]

Same here. Never was the same after SwSh….

[@JustJulyo]

@@MrSkeltal268 first generation I skipped for a long time

[@tronfreak6066]

I got silver when I was on Easter vacation with my family - don't think I have to mention how the rest of the vacation looked afterwards for me haha. And I still remember being able to go back to Kanto for the first time thinking this was the COOLES SHIT EVER! (still think it's a pretty neat twist). Keep making these please, highly entertaining :)

[@Treva]

Great video bro! Amazing detail. Jhoto has always been my favorite region.

[@kma4835]

An amazing video please keep em up! Love that your gf gave your houndour family key chains she sounds like a keeper

[@Paraspectre]

Thank you! And for sure. It will stop as a Mega Houndoom until I get a new car ☺️

[@kma4835]

@@Paraspectre so adorable hope you guys keep that tradition going same with the vids been loving them!

[@therecognitionscene3771]

lol i literally said "awwww" out loud when you mentioned getting the houndoom keychain at 24k miles. that's such a cute idea i love that

[@Paraspectre]

It’s level 62 now 😎

[@totallytubular4096]

Wow, this bring me back to my childhood, I find it funny I found this channel though your Bond stuff but I’m really enjoying these Pokémon Paraspectives.

[@Paraspectre]

It’s funny that I started as a Bond video game channel and those are my worst performing videos haha. Glad you found it either way!

[@cesarferreira386]

They’re the best games ever made by Nintendo and Gamefreak I missed playing with friends trading in the 2000

[@Paraspectre]

Good times indeed

[@Ddoublechin]

Love this series

[@Paraspectre]

Thank you!

[@jordandavis6574]

Already love the channel, but you got me for life with the Rush reference

[@Paraspectre]

Favorite band of all time 😎

[@CJVDrums13]

LOVING the chip tune Rush at the end!

[@jenisia3600]

Ah Yes what a time to be a Kid, such hype and Joy. Still remember the whole Pikablu thing and other crazy rumors like saying Celebi was a evolution of Mew 😂. Man that box art is gorgeous (love the og art), i still remember seeing it on Electronic Boutique, Toys r us, Walmart and Sears. Those starters might be my fave lineup of starters (tied with Gen 1). Also gotta love the new Mons like Skar, Steelix, T-Tar, Scizor, Umbreon, Espeon, Lugia, Ho-Oh etc. Also those Tv spots were amazing. Great video my man, love hearing you're stories when u played them with ur friends. And Matthews cameo was Straight up Epic!! Omg that Chikorita Print 😂😂😂

[@Paraspectre]

Glad you enjoyed it! It’s a shame that Matthew had to go and steal that poor Chikorita though

[@tealblackwhiteteal]

still my favorite generation & still remember getting silver from the game store & not putting it down for a long time. not liking the video for that, tho -- liking for that aladdin clip that really got me.

[@Paraspectre]

Thank you for not daring to close your eyes

[@DongBags9319]

My mom bought me Pokemon the Movie 2000 in 2001 I think when I was 8 and I loved it. I also remember we had vhs tapes of Pokemon episodes and specials.

[@Joker22593]

Can confirm from being old and also having TOPPS movie cards, only the Japanese names of the gen 2 Pokémon were known at the release of the first movie.

[@Paraspectre]

Ahh interesting. I really couldn’t remember

[@MrSkeltal268]

@@ParaspectreMagazines were going nuts trying to guess their English names at the time.

[@4fives992]

I started Gen 2 with Crystal so I am looking forward to you video on that. There were so many awesome Pokemon introduced here, My top 5 Gen 2 Pokemon are: Donphan, Mantine, Ursaring, Houndoom, and Xatu.

[@Paraspectre]

Excellent choices there. And yeah, Crystal has to be it’s own video like I did with Yellow. It has a much later release date and enough is different

[@johnathonkelley5234]

That was a great intro.

[@brutusthebear9050]

6:25 you always catch me off guard with your Rush references.

[@ejaurand]

The Rush reference earned you my sub.

[@connor-3455]

ayyee been waiting for this :)

[@francisduarte8120]

I still think that not making Lugia Water/Flying was a mistake.

[@Paraspectre]

It’s bluish, it can learn water moves, it pairs well with Ho-Oh being fire type… absolutely.

[@AngelofHell1311]

These are the games I remember the most and have a lot of fond memories playing through the region of Joto. I still remember receiving them for Christmas in 2000 eventhought I live in Europe. My father had some work in the states at that time so he bought Pokémon Gold while he was over seas. I was so proud though I wasn't well versed in English (living in Switzerland and so).

[@Paraspectre]

That Christmas of 2000 sure was something.

[@AngelofHell1311]

@@Paraspectre indeed at first I was struggling with some parts of the game because I didn't know what to do but it all went well. And seeing Kanto for the first time was just mind blowing and facing Red with an underleveled time was as intense as fighting Champion Blue for the first time in Pokémon Blue.

[@ferrugemj18]

OMG your girlfriend is awesome for getting you those perlers.

[@Paraspectre]

Mega Houndoom will stay there until my car is no more

[@ryanbowen4029]

Amazing video as ever mate. Would have loved to hear your experience with Kanto and how you felt when you discovered you could revisit it

[@Paraspectre]

Yeah I felt it best to just avoid talking about “spoilery” stuff. Because that was an awesome surprise. I remember kinda predicting it a little bit, or at least thinking “that would be awesome if you could go back to Kanto”

[@lizgutierrez5498]

This is the video I've been waiting for! Gen 2 is the main part of one of my core memories. Hell, I eveb made an entire 2 chapters of my webcomic inspired by what I went through to get these 2 games. I'd link it, but I think youtube would eat my comment. Still, this game was probably what cemented me into loving Pokémon until the day I die. Nothing will ever beat the hype that was me getting that pre-order, seeing the same 10 images on that CD rom, and finally giving into the embarrassing thing my parents made me do just so I could get this game! And the fact it was Gen1 but 1000x better only sealed the deal. Can't wait to see where else you go with these, as I too lived through the exact same thing and it's fun and interesting to heae other people's Paraspective on these (pun intended). Albeit I was 4 years younger than you during it, so I was kind of a dumber kid during it. In any case, good luck, have fun, and I can't wait for the next one!

[@Paraspectre]

Why thank you! I never did get that CD rom myself ☹️ I didn’t know what was actually on it

[@lizgutierrez5498]

@@Paraspectre it's actually kinda silly when looking back. Just screencaps of the game, some art of some of the new mons, and a lot of ads for the Pokémon the movie 2000, since it was coming out soon to Gold and Silver's release. Speaking of, any thought of making a video about the movies and how they contributed to the games and the franchise as a whole? If not the small tidbits about them in these videos works well, I was just wondering where the visual media fit into this paraspective.

[@Paraspectre]

@@lizgutierrez5498 That could be something I can go over eventually. I’ve only seen a few of them actually

[@SendFoodz]

I ran to my tv to stop casting this to type this comment: THE HOUNDOOM STORY WITH YOU WIFE IS SOOOO CUTE OMG!!!

[@Paraspectre]

Mega Houndoom is level 67 now

[@Soshiplayz]

There are 6 steel pokemon. Skarmory : Am I a joke to you?

[@Paraspectre]

Did I forget Skarmory?? 😟

[@Soshiplayz]

@@Paraspectre Wait never mind. I must had been on something because the bird was there. I gotta stop watching this late at midnight. I am sorry xD

[@Paraspectre]

Haha ok good. Skarmory is important to the history of steel types

[@Soshiplayz]

@@Paraspectre He isn't a good steel type but he matters. Hes no Pikablu but damn he matters!

[@jenisia3600]

@@Soshiplayz Skar has been a OU legend in the history of competitive.

[@BrokenVHS]

Another good one man. Johto's my favourite Pokemon region and has one of my favourite game soundtracks ever. I never get tired of hearing people talk about these great games Also, very cool seeing the "Where's That Parasect" segue get used, I'm glad you liked it :) Let me know if ya ever want me to make anything else for ya!

[@timelink3315]

This brings me back. I was about 6 or 7 years old and playing this game was all I would do other than going to school. This game and its remakes are my favorite Pokemon games and probably added more content than any other generation!

[@Paraspectre]

I remember really not being a morning person so it was a big deal when I was up early enough to catch a Ledyba

[@timelink3315]

@@Paraspectre I get that. Whenever I would start a new game I would set it to night time so I could catch a Spinarak and Hoothoot early in the game.

[@DarthAnimal]

Its such a small thing, but I LOVE that on Route 29 you find Pidgey and Sentret, and not Pidgey and Rattata. It might not seem like much, but its such a good way to indicate to the player that there are both new and old pokemon in this region. Imagine if Hoothoot and Sentret only showed up at night, and it took you an entire day to find a new pokemon. This way no matter what time of day you play, you will find one old, one new

[@zikamo]

Woohoo!! More poke knowledge!

[@shadex08]

A whole new world!

[@Dockula]

I love the intro

[@therespawnzone8393]

I remeber back in 5th grade when the 1st came out in NA kids would call Donphan Rollerphant. Because well Donphan rolled and looked like an elephant. The Pikablu thing as well was at my school. Also it's kinda weird how Togepi, Marill, and Snubbull all were given the Fairy-Typing later in life after they were introduced to us around the same time.

[@Paraspectre]

Rollerphant. I never heard that one myself.

[@CarlYoungII]

The Houndour storyline with your girlfriend has to be the cutest thing ever! You can never get rid of it now! Especially since it's Mega Houndoom, so cool!!!

[@summercrews5620]

Fun Fact, there is a romhack that restores the Spaceworld '97 region and makes it a complete experience

[@wangchung2157]

A channel I watch called MerryBites reviewed that

[@summercrews5620]

@@wangchung2157 i gotta check out the review, when i downloaded it for some reason i have to do a bunch of compiling and coding that i dont know how to do lol

[@wangchung2157]

Check it out and my bad I mispelled his channel its called MerryBytes

[@summercrews5620]

@@wangchung2157 damn first vid on the page is dragon quest you already got me

[@Filipe_agb]

Best generation

[@3744012]

The Kia Optima is such an underrated car, great choice!

[@piratebear3126]

Pokemon Gold was the first game I ever preordered and was the only one for quite some time. As for teasers, a panel in the Yellow Chapter of the manga showed that Blue (the girl character from FireRed and LeafGreen) had a Marill that she didn't battle with. I also wish that the Fire Seal and Anchor Shark Pokemon from the demo had made the final game. When I got my copy I don't remember what starter I picked, but I think that it was Chickorita. I got all the way to Bugsy and actually got so hard stuck that I reset and picked Cyndiquil instead. I ended up mainly just using Typholsion even against the bonus boss. Sadly that file is long gone thanks to the clock draining the save battery. Definitely my favorite games in the series, but I consider Ruby/Sapphire to be better games overall.

[@Paraspectre]

Haha I wonder how many others quit after trying Chikorita. Bugsy’s Scyther is no joke.

[@ThatKidTony]

I remember when they came out and my middle school library was selling Gold or Silver book marks. The hype was real.

[@Paraspectre]

I bet those were a hot commodity then too

[@randomedgygamer2191]

I still remember being like 9 getting Pokémon silver in the back of my grandpas car and looking at the box art

[@Paraspectre]

Box art truly is a lost…art?

[@sadtown]

You've traumatized Matthew so much he's become a delinquent.

[@Paraspectre]

Maybe he shouldn’t be stealing Pokémon from tree professors 💁🏻‍♂️

[@HaydenTheHistorian]

Neat intro!

[@stef3831]

I got a shiny spearow in gold at the begining part a few years ago just after getting the 5 pokeballs after that I proceed to shiny breeding with the ditto technique in my stadium 2 and got some shinys for the petit cup XDD

[@Paraspectre]

That’s awesome. I *think* I found a shiny in these games once but I can’t remember what it was. I think it was super common like Zubat or Geodude. Last shiny I found in older games was a Torkoal in Ruby

[@pattyg1184]

My mom ordered me the Japanese version of silver out of a magazine lol. She called Nintendo asking why it was in a different language. They told her she wasn't suppose to even have that game and it was illegal for some reason 🤣

[@Paraspectre]

Amazing. 😅 there were even unavoidable bootlegs back then

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

Video idea see if you can beat each Pokémon game with a Parasect

[@scrublord9505]

What is god doing watching paraspectives?

[@Paraspectre]

I’ve certainly thought about this but I wasn’t sure how different they would end up being. I would be using Spore a LOT

[@MeriadocMyr]

Would Silver be the follow up to green and the blue's sequel would be crystal?

[@Paraspectre]

You could see it that way, yeah. It’s weird thinking that Blue was originally an “enhanced” version

[@NEOBlastoise]

Did you list night first in the times of day because paras appear at night?

[@Paraspectre]

Haha actually no. I just mentioned night first as it was when I started my game

[@Xahnel]

My first shiny was in gold version. I was trying to fill the unown dex and I found a shiny I.

[@Paraspectre]

That’s awesome. Now you gotta fill the SHINY Unown dex

[@Xahnel]

@@Paraspectre oh dear god no, I've never been able to fill the normal one in anything, please don't send me into the shiny trenches in Alph.

[@Paraspectre]

@@Xahnel I can’t think of many things worse than trying to legitimately do this.

[@sirwolfy9372]

I hate that Pikachu was there alone in the box, could have at least Pichu with Pikachu to say that there also a new Pikachu or make a mystery and tell that it was A BABY POKEMON. It also makes me rage that many old pokemon are in the wild areas, since the worst part of this game is that are exclusive Jotho pokemon ONLY FOUND AFTER THE MAIN GAME!

[@girthbrooks1708]

Wtf i never knew about the mystery gift thing w the infrared

[@gus_0065]

guys i think he kinda likes aladdin.

[@Paraspectre]

Actually I don’t think I’ve even seen it in probably 25 years

[@andrewworks2551]

The coolest thing about this game is that you can collect Kanto’s 8 badges and fight red on Mt. Silver

[@Paraspectre]

It definitely is. I only didn’t mention it because I don’t really want to mention spoilery stuff. Even though I’m sure just about everybody knows about this haha

[@zikamo]

Lol I also saw red and gold being sequels same with silver and blue

[@Paraspectre]

Bright colors vs cool colors. I of course went the cool route 😎

[@donutmonk]

LMAO when will Matthews ever learn

[@Steelersrg8]

Hype

[@hekonaleeinos5510]

5:35 I care about Fearow

[@Paraspectre]

My apologies 😅

[@MrDannyKicks]

Your girlfriend got you a houndour. You're a lucky sonnava gun.

[@CDX23]

I still have Crystal in box :)

[@robertcrist6059]

Pokemon was starting to get hazy for me at this time. I have zero recollection of Gold/Silver which leads me to believe I never played them. I probably went straight to Crystal because I do remember chasing those Legendary Dogs (Beasts) whatever I'm supposed to call them now apparently.

[@ColdEmperor]

Ngl. If it wasn't for chikorita the Johto trio would be high up on a tier list. Same thing for Kanto and hoenn tbh. Usually the grass type messes up their rank aside hoenn where it's the water type. Sinnoh has the strongest starter line up sitting at the top. Unova is decent. Second place. We don't talk about the rest lol.

[@Paraspectre]

Haha yeah, gameplay wise, Chikorita is pretty lacking. I don’t dislike that line though

[@mbfilmsfett5577]

Yeeeee

[@mushi1480]

💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚

[@KnTenshi2]

Heck, I just love the fact that we got to be able to go back to Kanto due to one programmer optimizing and compressing the game's data (as well as removing the debug tools like he was originally supposed to). Rest in peace, Satoru Iwata.

[@Paraspectre]

It was such an exciting discovery

[@Riztastic1]

Gen 2 best gen. Remakes too.

[@Paraspectre]

Remakes ARE my favorite Pokémon games

[@Riztastic1]

@@Paraspectre it's always nice to see good improvements to already good games.

[@johnzale7748]

Yeah I had a tamagotchi and look how I turned out (like shit)

[@KibbysGhost]

You had a tamagotchi?

[@johnzale7748]

@@KibbysGhost oh yes, several actually. no idea where I got them. I vaguely remember buying one at Toys R Us

[@Paraspectre]

I think my Rancor straight up died

[@johnzale7748]

@@Paraspectre hahaha that's what you get for having a boy Tamagotchi

[@ferrugemj18]

2:20 Who else hated Snubull ever since?

[@Paraspectre]

I’m pretty indifferent toward Snubbull

[@Y0G0FU]

Your Girlfriend is amazing :D Those Keychains are sick

[@krankarvolund7771]

Am I the only one that can't really differenciate Gold and Red? They're both boys with a cap and red clothes, the only difference is that Red wears a backpack and don't have his cap backwards XD

[@mrguy9150]

A backwards hat is sometimes all you need.

[@Paraspectre]

I think I thought they were the same person when I started my first Silver game

[@Steelersrg8]

69 views pog

[@tillyvanilly7015]

No, obviously it’s red-> silver and blue-> gold. C’mon! How do I know? Well it’s because red and silver are the cool versions. :D

[@Paraspectre]

Fair enough ☺️ For me, my path went Blue to Silver

[@cesarferreira386]

They were the best games in the 2000 that led to the Pokemon mania the games were very good and exciting to play I had my silver but unfortunately being a fool I borrowed to a friend and never got it back 😩😫

[@sirwolfy9372]

Nobody cares about Fearow... Even Ash that let his Pidgeot there and promised to visit and never did.... Sad face for Fearow.. have the best attack stat and Drill Peck and great speed

[@Paraspectre]

Everybody forgets about Fearow 😔

[@GeoGeoCatfish]

Let me see ya NOD YA HEAD, black suits comin! Who's listening in 2022??

[@Paraspectre]

The best looking crime fighter since myself in part 1

[@andrewnelson2801]

Not gonna lie. I love me some weak bug Pokemon. Parasect with Effect Spore, Uturn, Spore. Regaurdless of stats, I always love using Parasect. I always name mine France. Kinda on the nose, I know.

[@Paraspectre]

France. That’s awesome. And yeah, Spore is no joke

[@johnzale7748]

I was such a gen 1 purist that I lost interest in Pokémon when Togepi hatched and didn’t come back for 21 years. Really surprised to hear that gold/silver was so popular in view of my own gut reaction

[@Paraspectre]

Togepi is what did it for you eh? I bet it was a shock to find that it evolves TWICE

[@jacobmcmillan4868]

Totodile gang unite!

[@Paraspectre]

FeraliGREATr

[@holyelixir4580]

In hindsight it's actually surprising how loved Johto is because in retrospect it's actually quite bad. most of the new Johto pokemon are either terrible or aren't available until after the elite 4. I mean look at the gym leaders. Of the 23 pokemon used by Johto's gym leaders THREE of them are Johto pokemon. AND 2 of those 3 are new evolutions of Kanto pokemon. Game freak must've realized just how terrible most johto pokemon were and swapped them for Kanto pokemon instead. Cyndaquil and its evolutions have the exact same stats as charmander. Don't get me wrong I have FOND memories of GSC and HGSS but wow in hindsight was it poorly designed.

[@wedding2710]

You shouldn't just regurgitate opinions you hear from a video, even if said video is made by the world's best nuzlocker

[@holyelixir4580]

@@wedding2710 if it's something I acknowledge as an issue I don't see the problem in it. But I guess credit is due to Jan

[@Paraspectre]

The lack of Johto Pokémon in gyms is pretty noticeable. But also, Miltank is pretty legendary in these games

[@wedding2710]

@@holyelixir4580 I was just teasing. Nothing you said was wrong, but I still love Gen 2. Played it nonstop as a kid, and while the pokemon are mechanically garbage, they're still really cool and it's not like the game has any difficulty whatsoever so it's fine

[@sebastianaliandkulche]

I have to agree, and this didnt happen on the overhated Gen 1.

[@tadferd4340]

As much as I played Gold when it came out, Gen2 is probably the worst Gen2, specifically due to design choices in the Johto region. The good Gen2 pokemon were post game. The Johto region being non linear meant the level progression was stagnant after the 4th gym. Most Gen2 pokemon were weak statistically, so very few were actually part of gym leader teams. The Kanto region was gutted so badly it just feels tacked on. The mechanics were improved, but the design choices really harmed Gen2.

[@MrSkeltal268]

Agreed! A baffling continuation of making weak Pokémon who learn 0 moves of their type not even available until late in the game. Why game freak… why!?!?

[@sirwolfy9372]

WORST INTRO OF POKEMON EVER! Thanks for Crystal to exist.

[@averytubestudios]

My least favorite Generation. I know people are going to kill me for that opinion, but it's what I think.

[@DoodMcAwesome]

It’s okay, everyone has their own favorites and least favorites. What did you not like about this one?

[@averytubestudios]

@@DoodMcAwesome Johto just feels like Kanto Part 2. It doesn't have enough identity separating from Gen 1. I know it's a sequel, but I've played plenty of game sequels that expand from the original, not rely on it.

[@MadameTeqi]

@@averytubestudios you're not wrong, so say it louder! The only real differential was in the anime

[@Lemon_Oppy]

Tbh I feel like a couple years ago it was taboo to talk trash on Gen II, but it feels like in recent years people have kind of soured on it. I mean it’s fine, I used to love that they added the original region, but going back it’s a bit empty and the level curve makes it mostly too easy, but hey basically doubling the length of the game or at least adding a decent amount of old content isn’t a bad thing either. It has some issues and I mostly agree that it’s one of my least favorites, but it’s still pretty good overall

[@averytubestudios]

@@Lemon_Oppy Fair! I can see why you like it, but it doesn't click for me. Hoenn does every Johto does and then some imo.

[@Colzun]

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