Pardon Me? | The West Wing

[@katebc9148]

Listening to intelligent people talk about the highest position in the land, its importance and its overall significance is so reassuring. I miss those days. Hopefully we will see them again. In the meantime, I am holding my breath.

[@templestark4779]

I 800000000000% miss those days. I don't pay attn to the shit show of politics anymore since this year. This show is still an ideal.

[@HerePepPep]

Listening to Kissinger is reassuring? These people are ghouls

[@dr_IkjyotSinghKohli]

When Presidents and leaders didn’t just tweet or X the day away.

[@donnaclinton5578]

Instead some had revolving door of prostitutes to the WH.

[@triggerman7]

Henry Kissinger jumpscare

[@la_beatrice]

😂

[@geocosmicvalentine]

I know, right?! And the nerve to have a message about MORALITY??? Most definitely glitch in the software!

[@frentz7]

@@geocosmicvalentine It says everything about Aaron Sorkin and the other people.

[@tomscott4438]

How did that war criminal get in there?

[@johnnykay7411]

Kissinger's inclusion in this is malfeasance.

[@MikeWood]

Strange there is no mention of billionaire co-presidents. :) A nice reminder of why some people serve their country, and others idolize a cult of personality.

[@ScorpiusZA.]

Who isn't even eligible to be president, constitutionally.

[@hazmat7949]

I agree but let's not get too nostalgic remember kissinger appears in this video

[@LarryH-fd7wn]

David Gergen gets my attention every time he speaks.

[@TheStuport]

A wonderful chance for me personally to be reminded that there were and are now people in powerful positions that STILL do the "right things".....and in my opinion "The Right Thing" comes down to doing what is morally correct as opposed as to "how one will be seen" after those decisions are made. Those men and women who think of their Nation and the responsibility to the citizens are not even wondering about the word "Legacy". I have very much enjoyed the Fan Base and The Creators of The Videos in here during my 2024. Without sounding too mushy, this channel gave me some of my most heartfelt moments and I'm eternally grateful! LQQKING forward to being with you all in 2025! Mele Kahlikimaka and MOO from COW-lumbus, Ohio 🤙

[@tomace4898]

Henry Kissinger belongs in prison.

[@thefunpolice]

He's dead now. But yeah.

[@templestark4779]

Woah. Presidents are here. 😮😮😮😮

[@rjpittman4510]

I like how this entire video is describing a good president as exactly what Trump isn't

[@shalashaska9946]

Homie just lives in your heads rent free...you lost, stop crying

[@MinionNumber3]

@@shalashaska9946 as opposed to when your people lost, and you lot committed felonies about it.

[@lindadority1056]

you know nothing john Snow

[@shuttlecrossing7084]

@@shalashaska9946 It's hardly rent free when a Trump presidency dictates a ton of things all around the world and not one single one of them for the better. Hope you're ready for four years of "we told you so"

[@shalashaska9946]

@@shuttlecrossing7084 Dunno about you but my life was way better 2016-2020. Like in basically every way.

[@geoffreyrichardson8738]

Great vid

[@Arrowflight]

It's too bad the presidential election has been soiled so much.

[@bored1ca]

It's because American politics has become more like a bad soap opera/reality TV series episode.

[@ssn711]

Hasn’t been an accomplished president since “Point Break “..

[@jackmerrill8424]

Yeah no the Nixon pardon was not the right thing to do

[@Mimi-cq4bg]

Exactly. It set the precedent that the potus is above the law. Consequences be damned…he should’ve been charged and face the courts.

[@lukevaxhacker7762]

In contrast with the Hunter Biden pardon, no apologies from those claiming eventually useful evidence as fake… Twitter banning the NY Post over its story.

[@frankteunissen6118]

Yes, errrmmm no. There were then - and there still are today - grounds for both views. I can see Ford’s point. Now, bearing in mind how Trump’s Jan 6 crimes were (not adequately) dealt with and after the disastrous immunity ruling, one would be inclined to say that Ford shouldn’t have pardoned Nixon. But then you still have to wonder whether Alito wouldn’t simply have pulled the same stunt on that precedent as he did with Roe.

[@Jank1]

Not to paraphrase Bartlet too much (though this is a West Wing video after all), but it is rare to have a moment when there is an absolute right and an absolute wrong - and the former usually involves a body count. Politics - especially national-level politics in one of the most influential countries in history, where decisions have an impact on a national and global level - inevitably involves making decisions in scenarios where there is no easy or right answer, by people who may be well-meaning but are far from perfect, based on the facts that they know to be true at the time. Those decisions may not always be the right ones, or bear the weight of history, but we shouldn't delude ourselves into thinking a decision like this is so simple so to be binary, or that it wasn't the right decision in the moment and made in good faith. Not everyone - indeed, increasingly few - in politics and public life are always driven by the best interests of others, but we shouldn't reduce complex decisions down to 'oh yeah that is objectively the right answer', especially with 50 years of hindsight. In this scenario, there is a case to be made that it was in the best interests of keeping the country together. It may not have been, and that is perfectly valid (and I personally would not have agreed at the time). But dumbing down what is - by any measure - a historically significant decision to a simple moral judgement of right or wrong just erodes the complexity of politics and nationhood. There are no right answers, only imperfect decisions by imperfect people - who we can but hope are well-meaning. And if they are not, well, that's on us too.

[@rabbit251]

@@Jank1 You wrote a lot, and I actually did read it. Many won't. I would point out that history over time does have a way of deciding right and wrong and correcting misconceptions. Cultures and mores change so I dislike revisionist historians. For example slavery was accepted for centuries and done all over the world but now is considered immoral. it is now generally agreed upon that Columbus, although he did find the Americas and open it up to European exploration, is considered a bad and immoral person. (I remember in school wondering why Columbus was so great on one voyage he was brought back in chains. Now we know). More contentious and closer to today is whether Jackson was a good president. Many analogies are made with trump. He was a populist like trump. Even trump admires Jackson. But it is historically agreed that Jackson ruined the US economy. And history does have a way of repeating itself.

[@mtssman]

What I find hilarious is perhaps 10 15 years later someone will make a TV series that somewhat based on Trump administration, and invite a whole bunch of former WH employee talking about how they find Trump a visionary and inspiring statesman.

[@JP-lu9ed]

Don’t think it would sell.

[@likeafishondryland]

I sincerely doubt that 😅 he's not even in office yet and he's already handed power over to Musk. He's incompetent at best, an overgrown toddler at worst.

[@McRocket]

2:07 - Yes, but 8 US servicemen and 1 Iranian civilian(?) were killed during Operation Eagle Claw ( the failed mission to free the hostages). Just sayin'.... ☮

[@mrjaykaycs]

All these until Donald Trump happened.

[@vinnyhighstrung1338]

I normally don’t make comments but listening to Jimmy Carter continue to make excuses is nauseating. If Carter had actually done what was right in 1979 we would have a lot less issues and problems. Absolutely one of the worst presidents in US history.