Paris is Burning - Joan Rivers Show

[@oblimistic]

Joan asking for their pro nouns back in the day really showed how much of a open minded person she was when drag queens were disgraced on television

[@WhoCares3001]

You should check documentary called Queens at Heart from the 50s. They were respecting pronouns back then. The 90s isn't that long ago.

[@NatsumiTakanawa]

@@WhoCares3001 Queens at heart is late 60s and it wasn’t really good with the lingo (which is understandable because the lingo didn’t even exist then). They just referred to those gals as ‘homosexuals’, and when they treated them as women it was wicked sexist and sexual. lol

[@jonathancrippen1615]

REST IN POWER!!!! DORIEN, PEPPER, KIM, WILLIE AND JOAN WE WILL ALL MEET AGAIN SOMEWHERE IN TIME. THANKYOU ALL FOR THE GIFT OF BEAUTY, WARMTH,STRENGHT, FAMILY, LOVE AND INSPIRATION THAT YOU ALL CONTINUE TO GIVE US LONG AFTER YOU LEFT US! WE LOVE YOU!🙏❤

[@Fakhrihilmi69]

@@jonathancrippen1615 we won't sadly

[@hdakickking6953]

Right , I was saying that and I've seen this a dozen times and never noticed that only because pro nouns is such a thing now. I loved Joan so much. When Kim Pendavis died she sent a beautiful huge wreath of flowers to his funeral which I found to be so commendable and respectful to ballroom , I knew everyone on stage and none of them are here today my they all Rest in Peace.

[@drubert1981]

The way Joan approached this with empathy rather than treating them like a spectacle is a behavior before it's time.

[@jbird2575]

An ally forever.

[@letsbefair2675]

Yes agree

[@Smoker2110]

Joan was class

[@tysonb3568]

Shes a NYer.... Nyers have always been used to this.

[@YoBoyMarcus]

Yes, Joan was an ally before there was such a thing.

[@born2shine4ever]

It’s crazy his Pepper Lebeija literally created the term 24/7. Joan was so amazed by it. So much of the slang we use today was created by black gay and trans people from the NYC area in the 70s and 80s. And that’s a fact! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@cooolness3]

She did not create the term 24/7.

[@born2shine4ever]

Smiley Citrus Okay.

[@yourfavoritegirlnyc9579]

That part !!!!!!!

[@amazingabby25]

Smiley Citrus 24/7 comes from drag culture.

[@amazingabby25]

It was first used by a black basketball player in 1983, and likely grew from the black drag culture,

[@TheWpgMom]

"Life is tough and balls are worse" the tiny grin on Joan's face shows she had herculean self control in that moment 🤣

[@ashm7922]

This is the reason why the LGBTQ+ community always embraced Joan. When she would have queens on the show, she would showcase them as talent and not as a joke. And would ask meaningful questions to try and allow her audience to understand the culture like she did.

[@bryanedney2723]

RIP, Dorian, Pepper, Willie and, of course, Joan!

[@Themeparklovers]

Yeah everyone on that stage has passed on haven’t they?

[@themasksamonji8606]

@@Themeparkloversexcept the woman who created Paris is Burning. some say she is still living in new york

[@hdakickking6953]

Kim isn't with us anymore as well he just had a bday the day b4 mine 6/25 ...I believe Freddie is still alive

[@SomewhereAbove]

Pepper Labeija is so mesmerizing I could listen to her talk about her life for hours

[@londonbowcat1]

24:20 burning

[@aavalestormiconicperformer]

She had that talk show voice🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@aavalestormiconicperformer]

Love Joan how she battled.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@DIETRICHCICCONE]

Joan Rivers was always on our team. Forever Loved ❤️❤️❤️

[@aavalestormiconicperformer]

She was so connected to everyone 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@Zhvianna]

And this is why I loved and will always love Joan, she will forever be a legend. She showed loved to the community way before it was accepted publicly, her humor was like no other. My biggest regret was being to young to not see one of her comedy shows live!

[@guilhermeperes6051]

Joan Rivers was just the best. The acceptance and interest in the subject is real.

[@MoonSpiritFaire]

Agree.

[@picklebananaeggplant]

So glad this beautiful history was captured.

[@rblyth08]

Me 2

[@BertyNolks]

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤

[@TaiwoWilliams]

OMG!!! I'm so happy I've found this! “Paris is Burning” is my favorite documentary of all time. I'm watching in awe, and also it's bittersweet because some of these Queens are no longer here😢 I must give Joan Rivers her kudos on her interviewing

[@idiosyncraticparadise1655]

With the exception of Jeanie. Everyone on that stage passed REST WELL ! I hung in the village and piers as well. I’m the generation after this one !! Before social media we all had an amazing time. Good memories I love seeing the ones before me

[@rblyth08]

I LOVE THIS POST. I too am from the generation BEFORE social media and a camera literally everywhere. In our homes, (not mine), in the streets, the average suburban street has a RING camera on virtually every door. Everyone on earth seems to be thinking that they somehow need to be their own KZbin, Instagram publicist instead of just being young. When we grew up teenage and youthful mistakes didn't live forever on the internet. I'm not anti tech in anyway, I just think that life was just a little more real WHEN it didn't happen in cyberspace. Your post took me back to wonderful, reckless, sexy days of the past and made me realize just how lucky we really were. Bless you Comic Man. You earned yourself a few extra heaven points for that.

[@kishikcm]

Freddie Pendavis is still alive

[@idiosyncraticparadise1655]

Kishi Chad yea when I made this comment. It was at the beginning of the show

[@hdakickking6953]

I think Freddie is still alive

[@johnbrogna]

I was there, baby! Miss those days.

[@feliciajenkins5041]

You know Pepper's children miss him daily🌹🌷🌹🌷

[@kylielovespuppiecash]

"Peppa "

[@TheWpgMom]

I think if you were alive at the time you watch this differently. Even if you were far from NY and not LGBTQ+ you remember how the world was and how this was seen at the time. And how very, very special Joan was for this. So far ahead.

[@aaliyahsimon5861]

These absolute QUEENS did not deserve that dry ass crowd! I would have been doing the most hahaha! I love these legends yaaaaas ❤️

[@londonbowcat1]

23:45

[@Bluesidian]

awww, my little Joan Rivers, how we miss you gurl!!

[@andyroo9381]

I saw "Paris Is Burning" in the theatre. I was mesmerized by this entire world and I never knew existed. Now you can go on YT and see videos of Vogue Balls from all around the world; Paris, Madrid, Barcelona, London, etc. It's an entire world unto itself. I, luckily, own "Paris Is Burning" on dvd.

[@hdakickking6953]

Kim was 1 of my closest and dearest friends , I miss him dearly and Pepper was my mother when I was a LaBeija RIP🙏🙏

[@TechToyTV]

Joan Rivers was a treasure to humanity! I wish she was still here with us today

[@Investigator86]

The audience was so dry 🙄 I woulda been LIVING 🗣

[@ah7910]

However much a society can move forward (like you point out, just look how DRY the audience is, compared to the reaction they would get today) a society can also moved backwards - let’s never take anything for granted and push back against religious conservatism.

[@keeganthorpe]

Kudos to Joan Rivers! Little things like this helped in so many ways.

[@ryan010able]

cant believe all these legends have left us now. rip, you all managed to make an impact 🙏🏻

[@Lifehasjustbegun]

Love Dorian!! Had a whole body in her closet! !!!!Yessss!! I’m glad I grew up in NYC and had the pleasure to experience this! I’m a Straight black (Cis) woman. Back then I was called a (F- Hag!) And had so many gay friends! And lost so many also to the epidemic 😢

[@LisaMarie-xp4ym]

When Joan walks out you realise how small she is against everyone!! Xx

[@sherriepb1]

I love them all.... but there's something so special about Dorian (despite her dark past). I think it's her wisdom and legacy in the ball culture.

[@aeriadne]

I could listen to Dorian’s dulcet tones all day. I was so happy to see she appears extensively in the outtakes, imparting even more wisdom.

[@MaryamofShomal]

A lot of queens who are no longer with us. I adored every minute, except for when Livingston tried to talk over everyone. Thank you for sharing this!

[@dipoche1679]

August 8, 1991. Credited cast: Dorian Corey, Pepper LaBeija, Esther Leake, Jennie Livingston, Willi Ninja, Freddie Pendavis, Kim Pendavis, Adrian Xtravaganza

[@richardlynch1094]

I love Joan more than ever for this. Rest in Peace Queen!

[@snatchery]

RIP to the legends who paved the way for us to exist freely🤍

[@andrewhenry8010]

"THE GODFATHER OF VOGUE R.I.P WILLIE NINJA

[@aavalestormiconicperformer]

The Voguers that came out were fab❤❤❤❤

[@glamnesianouveaux2039]

I am looooving La Beija. Very sad he died in the 00s. He is really beautiful and soooo very intelligent in this interview x Bless you Joan

[@positive___soul]

Joan Rivers threw shade at Regis and Kathy 😂😂😂 RIP Joan and of course to all the House Legends!

[@operas6]

Joan was so fantastic.

[@justasithought1592]

daaaamn Willy was FIIIIIINE!!😍🥺🥺

[@drasco61084]

Amazing that this was 30 years ago

[@jai_b]

'Beat your face' was used even back then and beyond.

[@OldskolFan]

People using it today time-travelled to that era and bought it back to this time. 😆

[@jerseykid5319]

The term came from that time. Many terms we use now were coined from them. We are just now giving them the acknowledgement

[@jerseykid5319]

No shade

[@tonisylviamallette1601]

"I didn't like something she said earlier' love it

[@aavalestormiconicperformer]

All amazing performers and Dorian performed and made gowns. Willie did choreography and taught classes.

[@k.abigail.]

Wow, loving this 💜💜💜 Aw Joan was so respectful, miss her. RIP.

[@londonbowcat1]

26:10 I tried to be straight for my mother's benefit

[@Pippa-pw3qw]

❤️ Drag will NEVER Die!! Thank You 🦋

[@tophtaylor]

Thank you for preserving this ♥️ wonderful to watch

[@gogosegaga]

Willie Ninja is so cute... !

[@BertyNolks]

He was GORGEOUS 🥰 ♈

[@zeej80]

My God- Joan was a classic woman *way* ahead of her time! The way she was so respectful of these guests was one of the many reasons the Gay community always had her back!

[@ClaLu]

The Ultimate The Best FRUIT FLY in WooooOoooRLD❤❤❤ #RipJoanRivers 🎉

[@feliciajenkins5041]

Willie and his team worked that stage🌷🌹🌷🌹

[@Veronica.Celine]

yes!! Crazy rude the way Joan laughed after first dancer said she was a model tho 32:15

[@Derexican]

Thank you for posting this. Was so wonderful to watch.

[@bajanboinoho5378]

So sad that everyone on this stage except the director is deceased.

[@rblyth08]

Gone but Neva forgotten.

[@NOIR_PAPA]

Friddie is still alive Lol check this instagram.com/parisisburningz/

[@born2shine4ever]

Freddie Pendavis is alive and well.

[@joshualovell2003]

No i just saw jinnie at walmart in Manhattan

[@feliciajenkins5041]

@@joshualovell2003 did you talk to her?😎

[@Norfolk250]

Less than 8 minutes in, and I now understand the flick more than I have these past 20 years.

[@GraylingForReal]

You have to watch the movie then watch this. WOW!

[@marimarujaa7818]

They are all so adorable ☺️

[@barbraseville8984]

I remember watching this while I was still (fairly) young. I was obsessed! I stayed up late that night to watch the re-run bc I was afraid to record it.

[@esmereldavilla-lobos4907]

Look at Dorian ...just sitting up there on tv like she ain’t got a dead body in her closet 💁🏻‍♀️

[@arodriguez7158]

Screaming

[@MarkyMat23]

Badass

[@Rogerthatx10]

Literally commented in every video she’s in. 🥱

[@andrewhenry8010]

Wait what 😳

[@adrianh332]

@@Rogerthatx10 oh oh, looks like we've found the negative Nancy.

[@fairuh520]

I love you Pepper

[@EliBelcherBeatbyeli]

2:02 the fact she got to meet them, LEGENDARY ♥️

[@83kikiboots]

Willie ninja is one of the most beautiful men ive ever seen

[@TombCat]

Joan was great looking in the early 1990s. On her second facelift and nose job, with the chic, more relaxed hairstyle and (usually) in a Chanel suit. Daytime realness. She was almost 60 and just looked great! As funny and irreverent as she was, people forget what an intelligent, attentive and young thinking interviewer she was. It's one of the reasons that her popularity was a bit C List. She was just too ballsy and outrageous - yet so proper and classy in her way too. She did not appeal to everyone. There was nobody like her. (Certainly NOT Kathy Griffin)

[@WafuBro20]

Asking pronouns in the g*ddamn year of 1990. That's THE Joan Rivers for y'all

[@yasmeensulieman1592]

Sweet Kim was so thin. May he rest. ❤️

[@miasmum001]

And the balls are main stream now .. these ppl are now legendary x

[@londonbowcat1]

27:09Joan is Jewish ?

[@themasksamonji8606]

@@londonbowcat1yes

[@aavalestormiconicperformer]

Joan was so a head of her time. She asked them what their pronouns were. 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@victorha9923]

I rented the bluray from Netflix, but disc 2 (which has this show) was not included. Thanks for making my viewing complete. Great doc, and I also like revisiting 90s TV through footage like this

[@londonbowcat1]

26:00 who remembers Joan's joke on transvestite Didn't know she was Jewish

[@noiretalk]

You can tell Joan *genuinely* wanted to learn about their lifestyle and the ballroom culture.

[@versaillesxiv_]

Was the expression 24/7 really not known then?? Joan is just hearing it for the first time.

[@hunniedtea]

OP. PU. LENCE.

[@fabteengh4615]

You own everything!

[@ImaginaryEvil]

“Everything is yours!”

[@evelynibarra2143]

Just found gem. Thanks for uploading

[@Jackeeypoos]

As much as I love Paris is burning there’s one thing I noticed quite clearly from this which I want to know what other peoples thoughts are or if they picked up on this: On the early days of filming they said Jenny told the cast it for a student film, I wonder when it eventually came time that she told them this would be a feature length miramax film? How does a student film transform to ‘oh we’re shooting today for the front poster’ or ‘oh guys were doing a Joan rivers special’ I’m sure she told them eventually and because of these opportunities the cast I assume were happy. However notice in the interview when Jenny talks about balls or houses the cast don’t really look at her as this is information they already know. However when Joan asks Jenny ‘how long till you knew you had a hit?’ And Jenny says she had to beg multiple executives for funding and the process she endured I noticed all the cast looking at her very clearly as if maybe they didn’t know that part of the information as this was from like a day before the day was actually released? Anyone else pick up on this? None the less legendary and this movie is cemented forever🎉

[@brandonzech649]

The fact that miss Dorian had a body in her closet at the time😰😂, STAR🥰🙏💙

[@cathyhopf6532]

Miss you Joan RIP

[@henrylester4051]

Why is this not on the list of shows on the JRS on smart tv

[@adamowens4498]

Not Joan not knowing what 24/7 meant

[@crazymonkey1545]

They all look so sad. And I don’t mean that in a mean way, I just mean you can really feel the pain and sadness and exhaustion and struggles each of these beautiful unique individuals have been dealing with their entire lives. ❤

[@EliBelcherBeatbyeli]

This movie was so good I cried half the movie 😭 the world will never be like again where gays just love their loves no regrets and no hate from their OWN community

[@KeithBeez]

23:39 love how Willie got his nuisance from his mother. The eye roll 😂

[@LisaMarie-xp4ym]

Wonder what Labieja’s children are like...

[@applejuice7648]

Peppers*

[@nicolemari9140]

There fine and doing good

[@Oscar-gp8em]

Joan needs a SAINTHOOD! She did so much for the gay community when it was not cool to be gay.

[@quaeemstowe-smith980]

Banji being a straight mugger is nasty work 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@cinnamongworl9833]

joan was always mother 🏳️‍🌈 god I miss her 😢

[@MasterresalerightsMRR]

Omg I can’t get over this scene…can anybody tell me the name of this track they vogue on?

[@aielianna]

Freddie was sooo handsome

[@lauriethomas4145]

Labeija's children!

[@bridgetisjonesing5007]

Everyone on that stage is no longer living

[@amazingabby25]

I think Jennie Livingston is

[@Nada07able]

Freddie Pendavis and Jennie Livingston are.

[@triffus]

Sad that all these people have since passed :( With the exception of the director Jennie Livingston

[@LisaMarie-xp4ym]

Why is she constantly talking over Labieja?? Getting on my nerves!!

[@SusanAHubbard]

That's just how Joan was. She gets very excited and always has a ton of questions, and sometimes it comes out a bit aggressive

[@pennywisedaclown51]

TV interviews/segments are always on a countdown. It will seem like Joan is rushing and interrupting but she has to keep the pace moving for timing.

[@glamnesianouveaux2039]

This has my eyes in tears. What beautiful humans, sigh x Pity they are all gone :-( They are examples of what a community is unlike the LGBT and pass me every other letter of the youth today!

[@alfonzowharton1557]

Joan s greatest show-00bc-2099ad

[@S0GH0ST]

It’s pretty brave of the film creator to share so candidly about the pushback and denial she got in her field because of the drags queen’s race and sexuality. I wonder how THAT affected her career later..

[@thebeefyleaf]

Why was Kim Pendavis not included in the interivew? Thanks for uploading this!

[@panchosproduce]

❤

[@panchosproduce]

House of 🥷🏽💥

[@chadshere]

All passed away

[@BertyNolks]

No way!!! They got exposure

[@stevenjoseph5549]

Anyone know the name of the third dancer during the voguing segment??

[@FashionFunPJ]

Did they ever solve the Dorian Corey mummy in the trunk case??

[@carolg88]

whats the song they vogue to that goes body-ody

[@BertyNolks]

Jennie was taught DOWN !!!

[@AeonZhang]

🖤🖤🖤

[@tonycruz2939]

I hate how Joan Rives interrupts them before they finish what they're trying to say! But glad she had them in the show

[@glamnesianouveaux2039]

It's a pity that Ninja didn't mention the Deep in Vogue video they were in. He mentioned there hasn't been a video that showed Vogueing properly but they showed it in. Deep in Vogue.

[@TheRAH14]

What happened to Kim Pendavis? She was introduced at the beginning but that was it and it wasn't mentioned after that