Paris Judo Recap Part 1 - Teddy Riner is THE GOAT and Uta Abe's Heartbreaking Loss

[@lucastakeo7707]

The team matches were my favorite moment of the olympics as well, both Japan vs France for gold and Brazil vs Italy for bronze were awesome

[@mr.xavierrises]

Funny, japan had more medals in freestyle wrestling than judo.

[@orangegatorade2471]

Akira Fujinami was fun to watch, and Kennedy Blades

[@frankiecal3186]

Crazy!!! Japan usually gets destroyed by the USA in Men's wrestling but this year they dominated.

[@AkumaClaps]

​@@orangegatorade2471 Akari*.. the other Gold medalist were also fun to watch. Tsugumi, Sakura and Yuka(specially) were all fun to watch. Yui almost had an upset like Uta Abe, but she was fortunate that Vinesh(the one who beat her 2-0 on the first round) got disqualified on the finals(she didn't make the weight), so yui was given a chance to fight on repechage, and fortunately she grabbed that bronze. Nonoka lost on semis, so she got her bronze trough repechage. 4🥇, 2🥉 for the women team. Men were also super fun to watch: Nao,rei and kotaro(specially) were amazing! Daichi takatani was doing amazing, but was dominated on the finals. 3🥇, 1🥈 for men's team... I became a HUGE fan of Japan freestyle wrestling team, on this olympics.. i will be rooting for them on los angeles 2028 🇯🇵 🙌🏽

[@mr.xavierrises]

@@frankiecal3186 how popular is freestyle wrestling in japan?

[@ybench5871]

Japanese wrestlers were very happy to be there, not stressed at all, they were enjoying the moment. Even if they lost, they were still happy. I think it explains their success. Just having fun, relaxed, and do what they know. Japanese judoka were very serious, almost no emotion, other than getting crazy if losing. You could see they were very stressed. Same for american wrestlers by the way, too much stress, so american wrestler underperformed.

[@marieadriansen2925]

Teddy is a very nice and jovial guy! He is very popular in France !

[@johndoe-cd9vt]

french guy here, I confirm, he is popular, but we also like the Japanese fighters, that's why Saito got a standing ovation from us when he got his medal

[@marieadriansen2925]

@@johndoe-cd9vt I know

[@jasonkoushka]

another amazing episode, editing style dramatically increased and quality of the videos become more and more better recently!

[@younesbenaddi4721]

I remember when I was a teenager in France Judo was the 3rd most popular sport in the country In a local tournament, there were like 40+ people per weight division

[@boobzy5411]

Yes back in the 90s judo got a huge popularity increase thanks to the David Douillet effect

[@puccaland]

Judo has never been the 3rd most popular sport in France. Always been football, horse riding and tennis at the top. Maybe the 4th most popular? Currently judo is 5th.

[@boobzy5411]

@@puccaland lies

[@Itachi951000]

@@puccaland It was the 4th biggest sport by number of practitioners for ages. It was still the case at the time of the Tokyo Olympics. France has nearly 4 times as many judo practitioners as Japan despite having half the population and Japan being the birth country of judo. Did it move to 5th recently?

[@younesbenaddi4721]

@@puccaland maybe it was for male as horse riding is 80% female. I m pretty sure it was 3rd, when I checked at the time though

[@tl8211]

I look forward to 2028's gold medal fight between "Wise Old Man" Riner vs "Hard-Bodied" Saito

[@kristofferlanghellefjrtoft8038]

Yes to judo in netflix!

[@Clyde_Ono]

RE: 57 kg - Gold, Silver and one of the Bronzes were all essentially Japanese. As mentioned, Deguchi and Huh were all brought up thru the Japanese judo system. So despite a poor showing for the Japanese women on paper with 1 gold, 1 bronze, you could add Deguchi and Huh, Sone was also injured and had to withdraw from her repechage match.

[@jonbeck6889]

You don't really ever have to "retire" from Judo. Wrestling is over for 95% after HS, and 97% of the rest after college.

[@Clyde_Ono]

RE: Nagayama/ Garrigos - you can argue Garrigos didn’t hear it maybe but it’s up to the ref to physically intervene for one and for two, htf can you call an ippon after 3 mattes? Garrigos should have been DQ’ed and the ref should be suspended.

[@AkumaClaps]

Agree.. that was an unfortunate match for Japan.

[@RockiesCanada]

Definitely the referee's problem. If he's sinking in a choke he shouldn't be calling "matte" on that-he's progressing a technique.

[@Clyde_Ono]

@@RockiesCanada 100% but the fact of the matter was that it was called (3 times). You can’t call matte 3 times THEN award ippon after letting Garrigos continue after the first call. Complete miscarriage of reffing and cost Nagayama his chance at gold.

[@JD-ww2ri]

Agree

[@puccaland]

The difference between Japanese Americans and Japanese. On the Japanese threads they are all about how the Judo in international competitions isn't real judo. That Japanese judo is different and foreigners can't understand real judo. They even make a distinction by writing judo and 柔道. Some claimed that the French cheated. The reality is that in Japan judo is an elite "heritage" sport while in France that's a popular sport practiced everywhere and in all social classes. Many Japanese were also more objective and talked about the fact that despite Japan having twice the population of France, there are 4 or 5 more people practicing judo in France.

[@adamunciano2327]

Would love to watch a netflix/amazon judo doc. I love all the fly on the wall footage especially seeing the intensity of the coaches when things aren't going to plan. Great tv 😤🤬👀

[@ZealousJudoka]

NOT the pants dropper lmao

[@AlwaysTharin]

Yeah sensei setting judo tradition 🤣

[@djsangre]

Saito is young, he can do it. He has 4 years to get jacked and refine his technique. If he succeeds, we need a movie about it.

[@beltblack2182]

MinJong Kim is young as well. I believe Kim will take over in the end.

[@squalllecanard8339]

il va surtout falloir qu'il progresse son explosivité et son cardio car Teddy lui sera toujours aussi puissant.

[@jonmielke6781]

Sensei Shintaro, did you watch any of the US judokas compete? What did you think of Jack Yonezuka getting DQ’ed because of shidos? His father is extremely upset and made a video about it.

[@Howleebra]

link video

[@jeremy4155]

Favorite moment = First ever gold for Canada!

[@Iverisus]

Nagase my favorite judo now I'm fanboy

[@AkumaClaps]

He is super under rated, his technique is so sound and clean, I'm a fan aswell.. But Abe hifumi is a BEAST.. bro went Ultra Instinct and Locked In.. after he watched his sister lose... I want to see the Abe siblings win gold again, at los angeles 2028 🇯🇵

[@Clyde_Ono]

RE: Tsunoda - don’t forget that she ipponed Cysique 2 divisions above at 57kg in the Teams final.

[@AkumaClaps]

Tsunoda the tomoe nague MASTER... everyone knows that's her go to trow.. and still no one can stop her🔥

[@tl8211]

Teddy Riner: “I fear no man, but Natsumi Tsunoda’s tomoe nage… it scares me.”

[@PA-yp6rw]

I french so I was rooting for Cysique but I still think people don't talk enough about this

[@midlandsdruss6006]

About Teddy in LA, I believe he said he will only compete in the team event and not in the individual. edit : it seems I was completly wrong here so my bad everybody, I misunderstood an interview he did and wasn't aware of a participation rule so my comment turns out to be complete misinformation m(_._)m

[@squalllecanard8339]

Je suis français et je peux vous affirmer que c'est faux ^^ Teddy va prendre des vacances et reviendra fin 2025 sur les tatamis pour se préparer tout doucement à LA 2028 en individuel et par équipe (ça n'a aucun sens de ne faire que l'équipe et non l'individuel d'autant plus que c'est le GOAT ^^ )

[@nicolasgrand-chavin8349]

You can't do that. You are only allowed to have people that competed individually in your team .

[@Clyde_Ono]

RE: Shidos - absolutely a problem but I thought Huh was spamming and false attacking constantly. No one wants to see it end like that but it was constant.

[@Howleebra]

SHIDO should be used for step outs not to orchestrate the match

[@PA-yp6rw]

I agree with you, she usually has a strategy of spamming false seoi while pulling the sleeve to make it count as a real attack and winning by passivity shidos to her opponent, she won in world championship against deguchi like this. However in the team bronze match she showed really beautiful judo.

[@ybench5871]

Japanese wrestlers were very happy to be there, not stressed at all, they were enjoying the moment. Even if they lost, they were still happy. I think it explains their success. Just having fun, relaxed, and do what they know. Japanese judoka were very serious, almost no emotion, other than getting crazy if losing. You could see they were very stressed. Same for american wrestlers by the way, and american wrestler underperformed.

[@vm75]

I think it's linked with the cultural legacy , Japan create Judo , being number 2 at something your country made is probably seen as a "failure" for the japanese Judoka , and it's probably even worst when the best judoka of this era is a foreigner , so you are right Japanese Judoka were on a mission to beat the french team , Japanese wrestler probably have less presure and are glad to do the Olympics and do there best

[@ybench5871]

@@vm75 Yes, that seems like the best explanation

[@mkmc94]

@@vm75 English create football and they only won one World Cup and even this is debatable. They will be fine

[@wengs4788]

They are all under pressure but they have so much will to win. Last year the japanese wrestlers did not have enough budget to compete. They want to get noticed not just the world but in Japan. Judo gets more love than wrestling in Japan and they want to change that.

[@EbuzzNYC]

I really wish they had you in the booth announcing. You did a great job at World's.

[@killer3000ad]

Deguchi is a fine enough judoka, but honestly she needs to add something other than just ashi waza. I rarely see her do any hip, arm or newaza techniques. Watching her gold medal match was frustrating as it was obvious the Korean was already expecting everything Deguchi could throw at her and it all came down to who could get more sloppy attacks in to force a shido on the other.

[@bs_art3625]

Peacock tv had every single match. But yeah you couldn’t rewind when it was live.

[@AkumaClaps]

Japan freestyle wrestling was so fun tu watch! Akari,Tsugumi, Sakura and Yuka(specially) were all fun to watch. Yui almost had an upset like Uta Abe, but she was fortunate that Vinesh(the one who beat her 2-0 on the first round) got disqualified on the finals(she didn't make the weight), so yui was given a chance to fight on repechage, and fortunately she grabbed that bronze. Nonoka lost on semis, so she got her bronze trough repechage. 4🥇, 2🥉 for the women team. Men were also super fun to watch: Nao,rei and kotaro(specially) were amazing! Daichi takatani was doing amazing, but was dominated on the finals. 3🥇, 1🥈 for men's team... I became a HUGE fan of Japan freestyle wrestling team, on this olympics.. i will be rooting for them on los angeles 2028 🇯🇵 🙌🏽

[@Clyde_Ono]

RE: Deguchi - she was recruited by Nicholas Gill for Team Canada.

[@eternalelitist1936]

Thoughts on USJA to recognize BJJ belt levels with a grading test?

[@BillKerney]

If you tap, it's dishonorable to take it back

[@squalllecanard8339]

3 médailles d'or olympique en individuel (+2 en bronze) + 2 titres olympique par équipe; 11 titre de champion du Monde dans la catégorie reine. Il gagne deux médailles d'or en 2024 avec des masterclass où il envoie 5 uchi-mata en 2 jours sur ce qui se fait de mieux dans la planéte judo !! 6 défaites (dont 4 par shidos) en 17 ans de carrière; 10 ans d'invincibilité. Et la moisson n'est pas encore finie car il sera encore là dans 4 ans pour être le seul à obtenir 4 médailles d'or en individuel. Il est déjà le GOAT; le boss de fin; mais il peut plier l'game dans 4 ans en devenant le seul judoka à obtenir 4 titres olympiques. A savoir qu'il n'a perdu que 6 combats dans sa carrière (en 17 ans); 4 par shidos (dont un vol en 2010 au Japon avec un Japonais); deux fois où il se fait contrer (à Pékin quand il avait 18 ans; en apprentissage; et contre le russe en 2021). teddy à 16 ans au sommet, seulement 6 défaites en combats officiels. Yamashita n'avait presque pas d'opposition en face. Riner a battu: Yusupov, Krpalek, Saito, Tmenov, Tushishvili, Granda, Meyer, Moura, Silva, etc...etc... 5 titres européens, 11 titres mondiaux, 3 or et 2 bronzes olympiques individuels + 2 or par équipes mixtes, 7 Grand Chelem de Paris ( le tournoi de Paris est plus difficile que les JO ). The GOAT! Aucun adversaire ne l'a fait voler jusqu'à lors; lui le maître de l'uchi-mata. Respect Golden Teddy car non seulement tu es le GOAT sur le tatami mais en plus tu es si respectueux; charismatique; bienveillant; humble et ambitieux en dehors. Tu es un véritable modèle pour la jeunesse avec les valeurs qui sont les tiennes. Le Japon fait des cauchemars depuis 15 ans à cause de toi car tu incarnes l'excellence et l'esprit Samouraï de leur culture.

[@PA-yp6rw]

Kageura l'a battu je sais plus en quelle année à Paris et c'était pas par shido

[@MtiuliBichi]

Tu peux enlever respectueux et humble de son CV.

[@puccaland]

Nobody talks about Gaba, the hero of the French team.

[@gengotaku]

Cool stuff Shintaro!! If you knew Portuguese you could watch practically all fights on SporTV with a narration full of emotion. I watched pretty much all fights and felt most fights were decided on SHIDO Nathan than actual throwing, which didn´t happen when I practiced judo as a child, when there was clear koka, yuko, wazaari and ippon and wonder why this system doesn´t come back. At that time people really wanted to show their judo and throw their opponent. Seeing Abe Uta cry desperately reminded me that the judo mindset is GET GOLD OR DON´T GET BACK, but anyone seriously doing judo knows that we eventually lost and Uta should be ready to know that. Looking at some fights I had the impression the referees were giving preference to French athletes such as the team match when Hifumi Abe fought and his opponent didn´t get SHIDO even though he wasn't attacking even HALF of what Hifumi was doing. I felt the same when Teddy fought Saito and Teddy wasn´t attacking that much in the first fight but didn´t get shido either. I didn´t know Mimi Huh was a 在日韓国人, but I knew a Korean guy who got the Japanese nationality and competed for Japan in Tae Kwondo in the Tokyo olympics. This was the second olympics that I watched after deciding to get back to judo 31 years after having stopped after watching the Tokyo olympics. I was a purple belt back in Brazil when I stopped, but finally got my black belt here in Japan.

[@AzeriDervish]

Hey can you also guys discuss success of countries like Azerbaijan(2nd on total medal count) and Kazakhstan interested to see your insights

[@Howleebra]

Height disparities are huge in heavyweight Judo... and surprise surprise, after they banned leg attacks the 6 ft 8 teddy bear became Unstoppable

[@giusepperuggiero1151]

Yup truth he is God sold legend but no leg take downs leg locks he will win the rules made him the goat,for pound he is. Not

[@romainbalon2229]

He was already a world champion before the leg grab ban. You just don’t become 11 times World champ and 3x Olympic Champ simply because of a height advantage

[@Howleebra]

@@romainbalon2229 his win-loss ratio skyrocketed afterwards, you can't argue with that math

[@romainbalon2229]

@@Howleebra cause he was 18 at the time ! it’s normal that he became increasingly more dominant after I’m not saying that the new rules didn’t suit his judo but you just cannot say that he won ELEVEN World championships and 3 Olympics just because of the rules and his size

[@houssedecouette4056]

That's a myth

[@Gundam1854]

Hi,what's the exact law in judo for men wearing T-shirts under the gi?I know it's not allowed by competition, but can we wear it for training?

[@eltonblack9421]

Saito is the Dragon Warrior

[@saprikado]

Klimkait lost in the semis of the WC against Huh who then beat Deguchi in the final.

[@MichaelWalker-wu2pq]

This judo Olympics were a combination of some very exciting matches and some very downright boring matches that wouldn't exist in old school Judo. I think they need to bring back leg grabs and attacks and quickly because more and more competitors are taking advantage of the ways to win by shido and it will make it less of a mixed tournament and lean more on boring tournament.

[@serendipitous6]

Deguchi and Huh Mi-mi are actually both "hafu" or half Japanese.

[@vinceocratic]

My only issue with calling Teddy the GOAT is he’s the Shaquille O’Neal of judo.

[@elyaselyas9444]

What do you mean?

[@RockiesCanada]

Instead of dunking basketballs he dunks people?

[@vinceocratic]

@@elyaselyas9444 that means he’s black and has a shoe deal and drives a G-Wagon Mercedes. Those are all keys to making you successful in judo.

[@Cheik225]

@@vinceocraticwhat do you mean bro

[@Howleebra]

A lot of people are going to lose their shit if you say teddy is dominant because of his physique... I find that entertaining because he is

[@Utuberj0sh]

Lmao taking your pants off on the mat is hilarious! Maybe realistically the belt or jacket!

[@liamodaniel7518]

It is a common thing for athletes to leave something on the mat, what about judoka? Obviously we should not leave our obi or judogi/ zuban. But what else is there to leave?

[@tl8211]

Why couldn't you leave the obi, in theory? Of course, you'll retrieve it later, I'm sure they don't just leave the boots to the janitors. That said, the symbol of a competitive judoka, at least for me, is the backnumber. It's not nearly as easy to take it off, but for me that would be the best symbol.

[@liamodaniel7518]

Yea it’s a hard thing, for athletes themselves you could hang for medals and frame your competition gi (after having washed it ofc)

[@dimitrisk.875]

Do you actually believe that the last team fight Japan vs France ( golden score fight, Saito vs Riner) was random??

[@patrick_g350]

If it was a chance in a thousand, it would have been suspicious. But it was a one-in-six chance. That's not very surprising.

[@puccaland]

It was, they explained how the system can't be cheated. For once the French are lucky.

[@ahfei6847]

Do you believe there is any chance it wouldn't be called cheating by some even if it is not? Do you believe "+90" should have been removed from the wheel in the first place?

[@euanmorse]

So, you tapped and then pretended you didn't? Not really the judo spirit.

[@dhimankalita1690]

This olympic judo was horrible it should be called shido game. Players are complainning about the rules. Nick yonezuka and chadi made a vid about the horrible rules . The judo was horrible to look at and the most games ended in shido. Tbh wrestling was more entertaining for me

[@Amrani97]

I only watched 81kg and up; and I feel like most matches were decided by scoring a point. I thought it was super exciting, especially ending with the team judo, that is peak imo (kosen judo should be standard). Crazy how our views differ so much haha

[@MatthewNguyen-zx3de]

@@Amrani97 81 and up were very exciting and varied displays of Judo. I was hoping 73 could be too, but unfortunately there was gaming there. The lower men's classes were full of Seoi Otoshi and Sutemi waza spam, wasn't so fun.

[@squalllecanard8339]

L'enjeu est énorme au JO; voilà pourquoi ceux sont des combats serrés et indécis; mais pour ça il faut déjà avoir fait du sport de compétition pour comprendre. Autrement regarde les combats de Teddy Rinner; il a fait voler tous ses adversaires avec des uchi-mata ;)

[@El_Camino_Que_Recorres_Solo]

In general as an event, wrestling was far superior to Judo, it really was fun to watch and the lack of controversy made it a really smooth but action packed competition with little to no subjectivity on the refereeing and judges side. Judo's relationship with the IOC and the corruption within the IJF is as toxic as it can get, and the Judo community is paying a hard price for it.

[@fortuna9074]

Do you have evidence regarding the so-called corruption? Like, discussions with IJF officials or documents?

[@El_Camino_Que_Recorres_Solo]

I do, but I won't disclose it here my lady. So please move on😉

[@fortuna9074]

@@El_Camino_Que_Recorres_SoloClown 🤣

[@mkmc94]

@@fortuna9074 shff he has files but he prefer to keep them 🤫. Corny ass

[@Howleebra]

Shintaro...Teddy didn't become Unstoppable until the IJF banned leg attacks

[@TB-fm8kf]

stop crying about that, move on

[@Howleebra]

@@TB-fm8kf nobody's crying fool, professional coaches talk about logistics all the time... some people aren't in love with the men but in love with the sport😗😚😆

[@puccaland]

​@@HowleebraThe rules are the same for everyone and Teddy became unstoppable when he got more experience and training at pro level.

[@Howleebra]

@@puccaland Teddy's win-loss ratio instantly skyrocketed at the moment they made it illegal for people to touch legs this isn't a coincidence because he's 6 ft 8🤔😃😂

[@El_Camino_Que_Recorres_Solo]

France robbed the team medal, it was even more heartbreaking to see Hifumi Abe crying out of frustration than it was to see Uta Abe's tears over a fair loss. Not to mention that fixed digital roulette...👎👎👎

[@killer3000ad]

You can't blame the French. They sent Hifumi Abe out at the team event because Hashimoto under performed in the earlier rounds. If they had a stronger player in the -‍73 kg weight class, then they wouldn't need to rely on sending a lighter player in Abe and have him fight against a 15% weight difference.

[@squalllecanard8339]

lol c'est de l'aigreur et de la mauvaise foi que d'insinuer qu'il y ait eu un vol d'autant plus que c'est fait par ordinateur et que tu ne peux pas trafiquer le résultat aléatoire) A vous entendre on croirait que Teddy n'avait aucune chance d'être tiré au sort ... je vous conseille de prendre un cours sur les probabilités; ça vous fera peut être réfléchir autrement (sauf si vous êtes cruellement de mauvaise foi ou que vous aimez faire votre victime)

[@squalllecanard8339]

Et c'était à Abe de faire son travail contre le jeune Gaba; si il avait gagné; tu ne serais pas là en train de pleurer à nous parler d'un prétendu vol illusoire.

[@mkmc94]

@@squalllecanard8339 Oui étrangement pour eux il est inconcevable que sa tombe sur Teddy alors qu'il y avait 1/6

[@squalllecanard8339]

@@mkmc94 ça représente 15% de chance et ce n'est pas rien en terme de proba ;)

[@biggrrrlbjj5833]

@shintarohigashi What’s you code for judo tv again

[@supablitz]

shintaro