Parker 45 - formerly known as Pevdi, a Hungarian First Impression

[@matthewbeddow3278]

Thank you Jason for the first impression. I have many original Parker 45's , I also have some knockoff chinese ones which are i think branded moonman , but they are essentially Parker 45's. This one looks like it's modeled on a version of the parker 45 around 1962-64. I dont know of a site except goodreads , i often buy my sister books and i check on goodreads to make sure she's not already read them , a book cheers her up no end.

[@WaskiSquirrel]

I have a Moonman that will be an upcoming video. It's modeled after a later iteration of the 45. It is looking likely that this may be a fake Pevdi. I actually think someone in Hungary put a 45 in a Pevdi box. I'll open up the nib on tomorrow night's Pens in Use to find out the truth.

[@matthewbeddow3278]

@@WaskiSquirrel yeah it could be that its just in that box it does look genuine

[@WaskiSquirrel]

@@matthewbeddow3278 If the nib is Parker (I'll find out when I open it) I'll come down on the side of Parker.

[@matthewbeddow3278]

@@WaskiSquirrel yeah i agree that will clinch it , but if its not genuine is a good copy . I've found on ebay chinese sellers selling knock of parker Urban (the new shape) which you cannot tell the difference between them and the real thing only they are selling for a fraction of the price also Parker IM's again fake but impossible to tell from the real thing . The urban is a nice pen has some weight to it and so is the IM. Its worth picking an urban up for £7.00 so about $8.50

[@aphexteknol]

I would be absolutely floored if that pen was anything other than a regular old Parker 45 Arrow. Even the feed and nib appear 1:1 identical to my real Parker 45 pens in my collection. I bet if you disassemble the nib and feed you’ll find Parker imprints on the shank of the nib...

[@WaskiSquirrel]

I will dissect the pen on Pens in Use. I'm filming it tonight, so it will be broadcast tomorrow. The idea that someone is trying to pass off a Parker 45 as a Pevdi amuses me.

[@aphexteknol]

WaskiSquirrel It amuses me as well, so I’ll be tuning in to see what the teardown reveals. :)

[@davidanderson3425]

I am slightly puzzled by the Pevdi box. The picture on one side at 0:25 looks like a Parker Jotter ballpoint to me. Then, as you turn the box, at 0:27 the picture on the other side is a quite different pen. Neither picture seems to match the actual pen featured in your review. So, the mystery continues. Does the pen have Pevdi written on it anywhere? I couldn't see the makers name on the cap band or nib. Michael Ramsey's comment that it could be a genuine Parker 45 is possible. I think you would need to research whether this company made replicas of the 45. Though I am not sure how much history of Pevdi will be available online. I admit I haven't heard of the company. Overall an interesting review. I am curious to know more about Pevdi now.

[@WaskiSquirrel]

Yes, they are two different pens on the box, neither of which is a fountain pen. There is no branding on the pen. I've decided to take apart the nib tonight when I film Pens in Use because I just cleaned out the pen. I'll be curious to see if it is branded at all. Maybe this seller is counterfeiting Pevdi pens by passing off Parkers as Pevdi pens?

[@OdE-ObjectosdeEscrita]

Hi! Great video as always... and this one made an impression to me... First - I am a Parker 45 lover - I think (just my opinion, not consensual, I know) it is one of the best pens ever made, as a concept and I have some of them; Second - I think this pen is a real Parker 45, the arrow model, with cap, barrel and section made of the same colour of plastic; Third - I always find this European history topics very interesting. I remember I was in Hungary in vacations when I was a little boy, with my parents, still before the fall of Berlin wall. Europe sure was a different place!; Forth - And this is the hardest one (speaking of pens, not human rights)... this video gave me the idea - and the urge - to make a video about Parker 45 clones (I actively collect them) in response to this video of yours... It wouldn't be the right thing, I know. You already said you would do it and it would be me using you to promote my own video. But suddenly I though this would be all very interesting. Thanks for the great content that makes me want to do more videos and watch more of yours. If you want to check out one of the clones I got from the flea market here in Lisbon you can check here: 1.bp.blogspot.com/-geKGKKJWC8A/Wmk6eB4yoFI/AAAAAAAAEek/uoalHnQB9vkBYUSEJWfXcjJEL9KvkqivwCLcBGAs/s640/Pens-FleaMarket-2-ObjectosdeEscrita-4r.jpg

[@WaskiSquirrel]

I think it would be wonderful if you did a video on clones. I suspect you have a bigger selection than I do, especially as it seems likely this one may not be a clone. I'll be taking it apart when I film Pens in Use tonight to see what brand is on the nib. I also have a 45 clone labeled Pax (another Hungarian name) I find it very interesting that your family would vacation in Hungary. It's not what I think of as a vacation spot. Of course, I've never been there.

[@OdE-ObjectosdeEscrita]

@@WaskiSquirrel Thanks so much for the encouragement to do it. I am very curious about that Pax... I have maybe 6 or so clones. My parents loved to drive through Europe and those were long trips. Departing from Portugal - Spain, Andorra, France, Switzerland, Germany (sometimes England, others Monaco and Italy, others Czech Republic, Slovak Republic, Poland... or Austria, Belgium, Louxembourg, Netherlands and Hungary...) Those were great times and I have to thank them that great opportuniy to travel to very different places in a time when there were no cell phones, internet guides of touristic attractions or even gps programs to get us to destination... It really was a discovery.

[@michaelramsey6805]

Could it be that a genuine Parker 45 has found its way into a Pevdi box? I’ve got a Parker 45 and it looks identical!

[@WaskiSquirrel]

It is possible. I do have some other clones, including one made by Pax. And this pen has no branding, other than the clip. I'll dissect the nib during Friday's Pens in Use to see if it's a Parker nib.

[@EmilehUnk]

...or maybe produced under license, like HERO/Wing Sung/Moonman in China with the 51 and 45?

[@alanpareis734]

Thanks for the Pevdi Hungarian 1st Impression and the history comments Re: the 1956 Revolution. They surfaced some memories or me. In 1971 a Presbyterian clergy colleague of mine and his wife arranged a blind date for me with a friend of theirs. (Over both of our protests Ha, Ha.) We were married a year later and this Sunday we will celebrate our 47th anniversary. But I digress. Les, my colleague was, within a year or two, the same age as myself. We were from two different worlds. In 1956 while I was doing all those things an early teen in a northern New Jersey suburb did; Les was hiding out in the Budapest Subways with his parents and other members of Hungry’s intellectual community while Soviet tanks rumbled overhead. Eventually he and his family managed to get out of hiding and leave the country. His father, a leading Hungarian University professor, soon secured a job in a major US university and Les and his siblings grew up speaking fluent Hungarian and flawless midwestern American English. During the time I knew and worked with Les in the 70s, his family managed to stay in touch with some friends and relatives still in Hungary. The stories he shared of the continuing struggles of the Hungarian people were amazing. Thanks for the memory jog Jason, and have a great North Dakota Thanksgiving.

[@WaskiSquirrel]

Thank you so much. I'm glad to hear Les made it out of there. It is amazing that they stood up to the Soviets like that, but not a surprise that they were crushed. It was a David and Goliath situation, only David did not win. It's easy to forget how fortunate we are here in the US that we have not dealt with this kind of thing.

[@x-changex-outx-oner8224]

Two of my favorite authors are James Michener and Will Durant. Enjoy your videos 👍👍👍

[@WaskiSquirrel]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@h4r4s4r4]

PEVDI stands for Pest megyei Vegyi- és Divatcikkipar Vállalat (Pest county Chemical- and Fashion Industry Company), it was founded in 1956 somewhere in Pest county, not too far from Budapest. At some point they made ballpoint pens, PAX was a well known Parker Jotter clone in Hungary, but they produced other pens too, of course. I hope this comment is somewhat helpful.

[@WaskiSquirrel]

That's very helpful. And it amuses me that a company name would include both the words "Chemical" and "Fashion".

[@greyareaRK1]

I've seen The Book Depository referenced, but have not used it myself.

[@WaskiSquirrel]

I've never used it either. I will check it out.

[@ettabee7406]

I appreciate the inclusion of history-- I agree it really is a big part of the appeal of vintage pens. Are you familiar with Alibris Books? If not, I would encourage a visit to their website to see what you think. Also Powell's Books, which is in Portland, Oregon, but offers a new and used book wonderland online as well.

[@WaskiSquirrel]

I will check those out. Thank you!

[@archivist17]

Thanks for this vid. I'm checking everything related to Parker 45s right now, as I've got a Flighter inbound any day now. Thanks for the comments on history. A lot of post war European events are little known west of the Atlantic. And it's certainly not as two dimensional as some seem to think. Hungary 1956 was pivotal in UK politics, as the Left repudiated Stalin. And today, many people across Eastern Europe hanker for Soviet rule, as the raptor capitalize that came to their country impoverished them even more.

[@WaskiSquirrel]

Congratulations on the Parker 45! I think it's a great pen, and you can get a lot of good nibs with it! And thank you for your comments on Eastern Europe. It is a far more complicated situation than it looks from the outside. Capitalism brought good, but it also brought a lot of bad, and these countries were often victimized by wealthy people from other nations.

[@matthewbeddow3278]

just notice *3.55* floating stuff on ink when you filled

[@WaskiSquirrel]

It's a little oil. I don't recall which pen it came from.

[@matthewbeddow3278]

@@WaskiSquirrel ok as long as your aware that's great

[@periwinkle197]

Booko is a good site. That will list all the retail sites to get the book new and all the places to get it second-hand(used).

[@WaskiSquirrel]

I had never heard of that site. Thank you. It looks useful!

[@davidanderson3425]

I have had a bit look on my favourite search engine. I am sure you have found/read a short thread on FPN about Pevdi. I had a look at Google images and saw a picture of a ballpoint and fountain pen set in a box. The ballpoint looked like a Jotter and the fountain pen like a 45. However they had 'PAX' printed on the cap. Not sure if your pen has this. What is clear is that Pevdi/PAX did, in fact, produce Parker clones.

[@WaskiSquirrel]

I have a PAX fountain pen that looks like a 45. That's an upcoming video after I do some work on the pen. This Pevdi has no branding other than the arrow clip.

[@zigmanzapolovich9048]

Owning a vintage fountain pen that resided in a foreign land many years ago is an exciting find. All those questions. What sort of things were written with that pen, who owned it and how did it end up here in America several decades later? All intriguing indeed! These are more reasons why our hobby appeals to us. hpb.com - Half Price Books is an excellent place to find obscure and interesting books. Keep up the good work Mr. WaskiSquirrel...

[@WaskiSquirrel]

These stories and the mystery are fun! I'll check out the book store. Thank you.

[@DealerBoy]

You might look into Powell's bookstore in Portland, Oregon. It's the country's ( the world's?) largest independent bookstore. It started as a used bookstore and has grown to occupy a full city block in Portland OR. It's a small chain of five shops in the Portland area. They have a warehouse as well. You can get new books, used books, and even some out of print books. It's independent, but they are a major supplier of used books to Amazon. Usually the used books cost a dollar more on Amazon.

[@WaskiSquirrel]

I think I've seen their name when I've purchased used books on Amazon. I will look for their website. Thank you!

[@stargazer1359]

I've heard of some upcoming changes to KZbin from the channel ....Fy Nyth.......I'm wondering if you have been dealing with the same...Otherwise, I'm thinking the majority of KZbin channels will shut down.

[@WaskiSquirrel]

There are some concerns based on videos being labeled child friendly or not. The particular concern is if you say you do not target children, but your content attracts a lot of kids. Judging by my audience demographics, I'm safe. But I am starting to see that all my eggs are in one basket. I'm looking at some other options so that KZbin can't just yank my platform. They have demonetized several harmless videos and I've gotten some mysterious copyright strikes that are later rescinded.

[@danielste-marie779]

abebooks is a great place to get used books.

[@WaskiSquirrel]

I'll check that out. Thank you!

[@acmramon]

really weird pen. the converter i think is a genuine Parker that the owner put it there. interesting pen, i wonder if it is really hungarian:)) ty

[@WaskiSquirrel]

I'm very curious. I'll tear it down when I film PiU tonight and find out what the nib is.

[@angsumanbiswas4219]

Its a Parker 45 Deluxe

[@WaskiSquirrel]

That seems likely. I'm going to dissect the pen on Pens in Use tomorrow to find out the truth.

[@origamichik3n]

Many people in the West, who often look with contempt at the "poor Eastern Europe dumpster countries", fail to appreciate that half of the Europe was under de facto occupation for 50 years, because it's not as glorious a read as heroic WW2 stories.

[@nonjaninja4904]

Eastern Europe is the only hope for the continent.

[@WaskiSquirrel]

Eastern Europe had a very difficult time under Soviet occupation. And people forget that several countries in western Europe also had dictatorships until relatively recently.

[@Johan-vk5yd]

WaskiSquirrel My Mother who was a college history professor visited Greece as a tourist during the military dictatorship in the Sixties. She noted extreme sparcity of commodities. The streets and pavements were tidy because not even a matchstick would be wasted, but saved!

[@Johan-vk5yd]

WaskiSquirrel And Spain is a young democraty.

[@WaskiSquirrel]

@@Johan-vk5yd Here in the US, not many people seem to remember all these dictatorships in Europe. That's interesting about the scarcity. A few of my students were in Greece one summer. They told me about eating at an outdoor cafe. Toward the end there was music and people started throwing plates on the ground. So they threw theirs and they made a completely different noise. Turned out there was a separate set of plates for throwing. Interesting custom in a country that had such scarcity.

[@joannew8093]

I vote Parker 45 in wolf's clothing

[@WaskiSquirrel]

It's possible. I'll dissect the nib on Friday's Pens in Use. Is it possible someone is trying to pass a Parker 45 off as a Pevdi?

[@MrWansty]

maybe they thought to bring down capitalism one pen at a time? as for book reviews try here www.theguardian.com/books/2019/sep/21/best-books-of-the-21st-century

[@WaskiSquirrel]

Maybe! I'll check out the link. Thank you!