Parker Bench Vise Restoration pt 2 TIPS 592 tubalcain

This PARKER vise was in much worst cond. than I thought when I bought it. Watch me attempt to refurbish it to its former glory. Part 1 of a 3 part video series.
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[@jenniferwhitewolf3784]

Nice job. I just restored an American Scale Red Seal vise that had been rusted into an immovable mass. My dad bought it rusted solid 40 years ago, and never restored it before he passed 20 some years ago. After seeing Adam booth restore a vise on youtube, I figured it was time to honor dad and finish his project. I used a grey hammertone. It took 10 days of penetrating oil to break down the rust enough to start movement... and then hours in the glass bead cabinet to clean up the rust after getting it apart. It could use new jaw pads, but otherwise it works like new.

[@mrpete222]

I bet that was a big job

[@michaelcerkez3895]

Well I didn't watch this video with my coffee and breakfast but did enjoy another one of your resurrection. Very nice! Have a great day.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@vicferrari9380]

Lyle in surprised to see you so proudly display and talk so lovingly about such a worn out bit of "scrap" iron. I half expected you to drop it in the trash bin. Lol. Fine vise will last for generations.👍😁

[@materialsguy2002]

How did I miss Part 2 until now, oh my. I do enjoy all these vice videos; this is like industrial history.

[@ramiroalonso3152]

Great score with this vise Lyle! I watched part ! and thought, well he´ll mill the bottom piece in part 2. Ended up quite disappointed. That bottom piece cannot go without milling it flat!! I´ll be anxiously waiting for the part 3 of video series My best wishes from Argentina.

[@mrpete222]

There is a part three and I did mail the bottom. It is not quite done yet

[@RockingJOffroad]

Mr. Pete unmasking reminds me of a child on Christmas morning un wrapping presents!

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Great work Lyle. I like the edge stop on the base, not seen to often. Just beautiful on the bench.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@danielabbey7726]

The Parker vise looks good on your bench. Great video, as always, and very informative!

[@SteveSummers]

Thanks Mrpete, that turned out nice. Definitely well used but I think it's still a good one. That vise earned its keep in the day.

[@kenparnell4297]

I am so glad you did the one thing I see so many guys not do and this is you used a primer and then two coats of paint. It's getting to the point no one seems to care about the finish. I'd have highlighted the letters, but that's just me. Although, I'd have replaced that handle with a new one and I'd have cut a "V" groove in the middle so the "V" shape in the set crew didn't booger up the handle any more, but here again, that's me. Great job!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@RickRose]

No apologies necessary for vise videos Mr. Pete. Keep 'em coming. Thanks for sharing.

[@blackmanops3749]

Hammerite Green for paint.

[@johnapel2856]

It turned out nicely. I like the small nicks and dings from all the decades of service. I like a little patina on my vehicles as well. It sure looks at home on your bench. Thanks.

[@johnapel2856]

cd rom I'm not suggesting that patina is for everyone. I just said I liked it. I have never had a problem with cleaning a vice. I just brush it off with a bench brush and sweep up the floor. If you are doing an actual restoration, then I think it should be returned to factory new condition.

[@johnapel2856]

cd rom Ha! That's true. I've heard that there are people who can actually put a car in their garage too. Such silly nonsense.

[@literoadie3502]

I loved it! Thank you for making the video, vise restorations never get old!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@johnjohn-ed9qt]

10:40: Ever see the movie "Twins"? Nice clean up. I also put the O-ring on each handle end to act as a bumper.

[@mclem4u]

john john We used O rings on the handle too. They stop the mushrooming the handles make.

[@TrevorDennis100]

A cool idea. It would stop the clanking sound of the handle falling as well.

[@GarthGoldberg]

They probably came new with some type of rubber washer. My Wilton has them.

[@richardrogers567]

Mr Pete, thanks for your videos.

[@jimpritz4169]

Nice refirb on the Parker vise. In spite of your many criticisms of this vise it is still far better than any of the crap you could buy from China today.

[@mrpete222]

Very very true

[@MrShobar]

I have always regarded the Dremel as a low cost hobbyist/modeler's tool, but I have to admit that it has solved many problems for me over the years, and has always performed. Just make sure you have enough burrs/grinding wheels/cutting discs etc. They don't last.

[@mrpete222]

I agree, I like my Fordome

[@stephentayler1414]

You are a man of many vices :)I barely have enough room for one bench vice :)Good video as always.. I have watched a lot of your videos and always learn something new. Please keep them coming Mr Pete.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@trimwus]

nice to see a great old vice back in service

[@tommccall7540]

Nice restoration. Thanks for the video. You gave good ad-vice.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@jodydoakes8754]

Always enjoy your videos, regardless of topic. Many times, as a kid, I pinched my fingers when the handle dropped in my father's big bench vise. I think the screw head was mushroomed causing much pain. As an adult, on my vises, I always add an O ring to each end of the handle--no mushrooming, no pinched little fingers.

[@toddk.5873]

Thanks Mr. Pete. As I'm watching this, I looked to see that my main vice is a 4" Parker swivel that I mounted on a home made pedestal. It's very old. It came out of an 80 year old machine shop in Brooklyn N.Y. I got it in about 1990. The shop was around since 1910. Your vice looks so good, I think I want to clean up my Parker vice too.

[@JamesDedmon]

Looks good on that bench. That is an awesome vice, much better than any I own

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@feathers352]

Ok. I am slowly getting caught up on your videos. Always little tips to learn. Thanks again.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@Jim-ie6uf]

I love the old tools. Wish they could tell their story.

[@MegaAndroyd]

I’m not sure if things have changed but the video quality seems much improved. Very enjoyable.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@machiningbasics1729]

Looks like the corner of my bench ! I’m indecisive when it comes to vices

[@mrpete222]

Yes lol

[@johnstrange6799]

A little love goes a long long way on a good vise. Considering the dividend of daily use in many shops, the investment of time effort is one well spent. Thanks.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@jaydee2620]

I need to start going to these auctions with you, u r keeping all these goodies for yourself lol

[@W4BIN]

I believe I would have sanded the base of the grey Parker flatter on the belt sander.

[@Tryin2FlyII]

Hi mrpete Great series, at 11:29 in the video I was reading in the description #6 it said "Parko Metal" any Idea what that metal is I have never heard of it - Two Thumbs Up Sir!! BTW -I used one of your ideas ( Strap wrench on cone pulley and a HUGE crescent wrench & a hammer lol) on how to remove a stuck lathe chuck and IT WORKED!!! Finally after 2 yrs I was able to remove my 3 jaw on my SB!!!! So THANK YOU again for ALL that you have taught me!

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@ActiveAtom]

Wow marketing in the image at 11:13 shares for these two how some things never change? "Big Bear Swivel Base". Thank you for introducing these tow to a vise name that before now we were unaware. Lance & Patrick.

[@mrpete222]

Glad you liked it Lance

[@robc8468]

I restored a Vintage Craftsman vise more like the one you replaced on your bench it is amazing how much actual time it takes but it is rewarding to see and use when finished.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@kevinwillis9126]

Turned out great. Thanks for sharing sir..

[@TheFalconJetDriver]

Impressive video, nice job! Your grand son is going to enjoy that Vice I hope! I have been looking for a good vice for a couple of years at a fair price. Fair is the operative word. Hard to find.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@ggordon4127]

You are right the mushrooming would indicate production work. I bet that the relieving on the ram is position such that it fits a diameter that allows just that extra depth necessary for the jaws to hold large tubing, pipe etc.

[@OLDBEAR123456]

Very nice tubalcain.

[@Daledavispratt]

Very nice! That is going to be a great vise for many more years. Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@outsidescrewball]

nice feature on the fixed position Parker, the stop for the bench location....I have seen so many vices installed where the fixed jaw is behind the edge of table which blocks vertical installations....time for another auction “savior” trip...lol

[@allannoyes4560]

Thanks for another great video Parker was a wonderful vice . I think Henry could use it someday.

[@argee55]

Good looking vise. I went to a tool auction this past week. I was hoping to bring home a Parker vise and a Columbian vise. Unfortuately someone else wanted them more tham I did. Maybe next time.

[@PaulSteMarie]

That's one fine-looking job.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you

[@Rusty_ok]

Nice finished product. I will. E on the lookout for something similar for my shop. Thanks for sharing.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@Discover-Bible-Prophecy]

I am addicted to your videos. I think it my 'vice'!

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@Dominic.Minischetti]

Beautiful job! Smooth as silk! On a side note, I’m building my 5th. Wobbler today! I been scaling them down, last one had a 1/2 stroke, this one a 3/8 stroke. Hope it works! Don’t think I could go any smaller without a lathe and milling machine! Thanks for all your videos!

[@mrpete222]

That is awesome, keep up the good work

[@billwilson7782]

I have a CP Vise that I use in my shop daily. It was my father in laws. Last week the stationary jaw broke at the casting. I am now beginning the repair. I have 6 vices in my shop but this one is special because it has family history. About 10 years ago I took it apart, cleaned it up and put it to use. I do not know what happened to the casting at the point of the break of the jaw because I have other vices and anvil type items to beat upon. I am going to repair this vise and use it again. My father in law Harry was a great guy.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@michaelcoceski5442]

Greetings Mr. Pete. I have never seen one minute of your videos that I did not enjoy.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much

[@24jh42]

I mount mine on a steel plate and use a couple of c-clamps to hold it to the table. Got 4 different types and different holes in the steel plate for mounting, and holes to go through the bench table for heavy duty work. Advantage is I can swing it to fit the job, and quickly remove it for storage under the table when I need the space.

[@mrpete222]

Great idea, thank you

[@Inspironator]

I would have ground down the seam on the bottom to improve the flatness or, more likely put it on 2 separate rubber sheets that fit the base footprint. A vice that wobbles side to side as I tighten and untighten it would drive me bonkers.

[@PaulSteMarie]

I imagine that ridge would just smash its way into the wood if you tighten it onto a wood workbench.

[@gordbaker896]

Very disappointed that you did not mill or grind the high spot on the base Flat. I always put large rubber or Viton 'O' rings at each end of the handle to stop if from slaming down on your hand. Of course you have that fancy 'handle holder'.1/2" bolts fits the holes snugly. The buttress edge for the bench is a great feature.

[@tcpbox]

as always a good job, and now another good vise to work for several years...

[@geoffreyabegg9791]

I can't believe you called the Craftsman vise "cheap" as it is actually a Columbian vise branded for Sears. I have its big brother on my bench, and it's a fine vise! ;-)

[@mrpete222]

Whoops

[@eleventeenmachine5991]

Here you are with Chaz Parker vises all the way out in Illinois. And I live just 15 minutes away from Meriden Ct. Where Parker made those vises. And yet have an L. S. Starrett vise fascination. Currently owning three of them. The largest a 197# number 926. Of course only restoring the smallest so far. I'd say that vises are my vice but like Mr. Tom Lipton I also have a problem with hammers. And also like you, machinery.

[@mrpete222]

👍

[@57WillysCJ]

I commented a while ago about questions on a Parker Vise. You have answered them with this restoration. I have a 272 with 4 1/2 inch jaws. I don't know what was with people using a vise like an anvil or just using it like a car in a demolition derby.

[@mrpete222]

People are tough on vises

[@glennlawrie-smith8570]

Looks good.

[@dannywilsher4165]

As always, I enjoyed watching the awesome job you always do! And I learned something also. I didn't know that the Parker that made guns also made vices. I have some Parker guns and they are very high quality. I assume the vices would be also. Thanks Mr. Pete!!!

[@tcarney57]

Scrap iron? What!? Looks like a pretty-nice vise to me, even before you cleaned it up. Its "flaws" don't detract one bit from its utility, but they do add to its _soul_ -- the result of decades of hard purposeful service by workers who used it to put food on their families tables. I'm glad you restored some of its dignity.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@ianelley]

I think that decorative design on the side of the vise is known as a "cupids bow" in the UK, often seen on old British woodworking hand planes . There is a plane maker called Bill Carter in England that still makes them that way, I think he has a couple of videos on youtube showing how does it .

[@mrpete222]

Thank you, I like that name

[@19672701]

Always wondered about the history of these old tools,where they started,initially bought. Be neat to see where it traveled and it's use. Have a old parker that someone brazed the pads on for some reason. Also a fan of non swivel vises.

[@pierresgarage2687]

In my opinion, a vise is the is the longest lasting tool in ANY shop or garage... 😎👍

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@chrisframe1722]

I also love those vises. Making a set of jaws would make another great video series. Hint hint. I happen to have one that needs a set. Keep up the good work. Thanks

[@NBCRGraphicDesign]

1) It's a shame that the man that previously owned the vise had all the tools to restore the vise himself, but did not. B) If you look at the advertising art work at 11:18 you'll see that the bigwigs at Parker also liked the little "cove and bead" buttress in the rear of the vise as they added it as a detail to every letter in the Parker Vise logo.

[@andyZ3500s]

Mr. Pete it looked like those old advertisements were in a book, If so I sure would like to know the name of the it. I always am interested in period advertisements. My grandfather bought two of those cheap vice's for the home shop in 1959. Guess what kind of vice's are being used in the home shop 60 years later. Three generations have been using them and still in good working order. Sorry I couldn't resist. 🙂

[@Bluesman57]

The pin that holds the nut in place is definitely an odd size, the reason it's bent is, when the vise was inatlly assembled, they just drove the pin in, then bent it over with a hammer if you noticed the bend matches the nut, at least it did with the Parker 974 i restored. Parker never dated their vises, if the handle is bulbed shaped, it was made in 30's and earlier. If it is round like yours, it's 30's to 1957. Parker moved from one area to another in 1957, which was reflected by the name in the casting being changed to reflect the new city in CT. So the 39 must be a batch number (39 was on my collar as well) my vise is the same year range as yours 30's to 1957. As you i like Parker vise's. My vise was missing the set screw in the handle, but the spring and a small brass disk were in the tapped hole, i just got a set slotted screw at Ace Hardware.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@bocody]

Are you familiar with a “Holland’s” vise? Made in Erie PA. I recently bought one from an estate sale. It seems to be very well made. I dissembled and cleaned it. The screw looks like the day it was made. It’s amazing how old school quality products last.

[@mrpete222]

No, never heard of that brand

[@danbreyfogle8486]

Perhaps this was said before but I'll bet that wear on the handle from bumping against the screw probably occurred over time when the screw and spring were lost. So perhaps Bubba didn't like the fact that the handle didn't make an audible clang with each operation. He often complains that the boss won't think he is getting anything done unless he hears him working.

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@elsdp-4560]

THANK YOU...for sharing. Very much enjoyed.

[@BensWorkshop]

Many thanks. I have a Record no 4 vice which I bought from a scrapyard that could do with refurbishment.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@brucekiszely2995]

Morning Mr Pete: The next time that you refurbish a video, skip the primer step, your paint is Rust-Oleum 2x, this paint is designed to be applied right to the metal, great stuff, make sure that you shake the can well, I recommend you get a reciprocating saw attachment called" kwik- shake", thanks again sir, look forward to your videos!

[@jenniferwhitewolf3784]

Bruce Kiszely www.mixkwik.com/

[@brucekiszely2995]

@@jenniferwhitewolf3784 oops, thanks for the correction Jennifer!, LOL

[@AWDJRforYouTube]

After seeing this 7:46 end view of the top of the ram-plenty of thicknesss, That swayback groove must have been ground in to suit work requirements, what ya think? Vise looks GREAT Mr Pete!

[@edsgunsmithing3098]

That's my thought too. Just like my workplace. Instead of buying the right tool the first time, just rig it to get the job done. Why spend $1,500 when you can buy a $500 tool and put $2,000 worth of labor into it.

[@hands-on-m8c]

So what's your opinion of the Craftsman vines, that would be a good episode, everybody loves to hear about vises and craftsman

[@mrpete222]

Sears sold many different models of vises over the years. their cheaper. Models were not very good. But the expensive ones were high-quality. Most people purchased the inexpensive ones.

[@christurley391]

Thanks for the video.

[@MaturePatriot]

Well done. Looking for a better vise myself. I have a small Craftsman and a larger no name vise that currently serve my needs. See you next time.

[@josephwilson6651]

learned a lesson from dad he always shod the vise location with a metal wrap base plate makes it very secure

[@ruperthartop7202]

Great job Lyle. How about some magnetic soft jaws to go with it. Cheers

[@jerryvelasco1474]

I'm fixing a Bull Dog 516. I have to well the main shaft though. 😓 Anyways great video, you gave me some ideas.

[@mrpete222]

😄

[@LostMountainRestoration]

Love it! Thanks!!

[@lathammarx1458]

I have to agree that 6" vise is too heavy for most work, but when you need it's nice to have.

[@Smallathe]

LOVELY work... :)

[@guye7763]

Damn, for the first time I knew exactly what the tool was. Watched my dad use one when I was 4 and used it thousands of time myself. I could have explained exactly how it worked. Why it did and the design, even how to clean it. I assume KZbin blocked the comments. Not their sort of thing but hells bells someone has to do it and for a while it was me. It was a hell of a lot better than a pole axe much less a pith. Different times I suppose.

[@MrUbiquitousTech]

? It's a vise.

[@KingRatt]

After you get a sandblasting cabinet you can add powder coating to your arsenal.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@BedsitBob]

First time I've seen someone circumcise a vise handle. 😁

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@Blackcountrysteam]

What a difference a bit of spit n polish does !

[@robertburns2415]

In 1790 before the HMS Bounty was set fire by Fletcher Christian they salvaged as much of the internal ship as they could one of the things they salvaged was the vice that they used aboard the ship and as I understand it that Vice is still being used today.

[@mrpete222]

Wow, that’s really something

[@stanleydenning]

I wonder if it would be worth the effort to fill in the worn spot on the spline. Some welding and than a trip to the milling machine.

[@brianw3222]

Is it possible that the handle was replaced by a smaller one? On the video it looks like the hole is made for a larger diameter rod.

[@abaker7615]

I cannot leave comments on your resent video on your classes. I was wondering which class would be the best lathe class for me. I have a 9x20 Twain lathe (Harbor Freight), which lathe is it most similar to?

[@Omnivorous1One]

Is there any type of grease or oil that you recommend to stay away from if trying to freshen up an old vise? Red & Tacky, Lithium Grease, Synthetic/Super Lube? Or can you basically use just about anything?

[@mrpete222]

Anything

[@ParthPatel-hb6du]

Hey tubalcain i have a question. I’m about to mount a 100 pound wilton C2 bullet on my workbench. It is a 1.25” thick solid wood table top. Do i need a steel plate between the vise and table? Trying to avoid adding any more height than needed because its a big old vise!

[@mrpete222]

I would say, try it without the plate. If it does not work out for you, add the plate and use the same bolt holes in the bench.

[@jaydee2620]

What type of grease are you using Mr. Pete ??

[@garyjones7198]

T.C. Very nice job, do you want to sell that 6 inch?

[@ronniezr201]

Nice rebuild ... you probably just shot the prices of Parker vises up on Ebay ~

[@storminnormansgunworks824]

Sir, what brand vise do you recommend for a mini Lathe/Mill Shopmaster CNC?

[@mrpete222]

I have no experience with the small machines

[@storminnormansgunworks824]

@@mrpete222 Okay. Thanks for the reply sir!

[@not2fast4u2c]

I bet you were one of very few kids that would have been over joyed to get a vise for a Christmas present ..I know I would have been happy

[@mrpete222]

Yes I would have

[@vtwin6]

Mr Pete why do you not own a bead blast cabinet?

[@mrpete222]

Cannot afford it nor do I have the room for one. Or actually do need either

[@julianp.1713]

Force a rubber "O" ring over the ends of the bar so it doesn't impact the screw every time the bar is dropped on the screw.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@Seavoyager45]

I like the clink sound it makes when the rod drops, it is music to my ears, it means I'm using my vise!!!

[@Apathymiller]

Can you tell me how you find auctions please?

[@mrpete222]

Newspaper ads

[@Apathymiller]

@@mrpete222 thank ya mr pete. I have access to all of the media info with the tv, internet, & radio, yet i cant ever find any listings for auctions around me here in washington. Of course it would be the "old reliable" newspapers lol. Which i dont receive, haha. I'll definitely have to start picking some up. Do you know if they Are listed on a certain day of the week, like on fridays paper, or are they just listed on any day of the weeks newspaper?

[@allannoyes4560]

Just watched Steve Summers, maybe you could ask Mrs. Pete to help with your projects.

[@sbnewtcorp]

Sweet vice!!! Sorry to bother you but, do you ever accept any emails with photos? I need to identify a rather weird fastener that holds my change gears on their shafts!

[@mrpete222]

Find email address in my video called Labor Day special