Part 2, Can a Model Y Drive in Cold and Snow ??

[@stakis12]

today I learned that I am way to gentle with my Model Y

[@BassPlayerUnderGrace]

As someone who lives in and drives a Model 3 in Interior Alaska, you should open your app and turn on the heat / defrost full blast at least 15 minutes before you know you will get into it. That will solve your window issue.

[@evdave528]

I’ll try it next trip

[@josiahswanson5518]

@@evdave528 you probably will try to use the car with ice sealing the windows

[@STR8Top]

Feeling bad for those poor summer pirelli tires. Its not the car that complains about tires (it doesnt matter what car you have, it will perform the same), its the tires themselves. Those are designed to work in over 40f (~7c) weather and not in snowy/slushy/muddy conditions. Definitely change them out before winter time if you wanna enjoy the ride and keep you and others safe. Cheers

[@dr.kim.314]

These tires might need to be thrown out. They should have been changed out months ago and kept indoors.

[@bmanfitz]

@@dr.kim.314 yeah, they're toast lol

[@montanapokerplayer2842]

Do all model Y's come with Summer tires?

[@STR8Top]

@@montanapokerplayer2842 only the performance trim, the rest with all seasons i believe

[@Xanthopteryx]

@@dr.kim.314 Why keeping indoors? Not necessary. Keep them shielded from sun and excessive heat and the weather (rain and such). Does not matter if they are stored in -30 C or not.

[@ChaimLoecher]

How cool is it that 50,000 people want to come with you to check out your new car...👍

[@TubeBrowser2]

Kick your boots together outside while sitting down to keep moisture out of your rig.

[@hqsound5582]

A classic to remove most of the snow from your boots. I learned that as a kid here in the Nordic.

[@xploration1437]

Omg, that killed me too!

[@garyoliver706]

Absolutely amazing, summer tires in winter conditions is still okay. That speaks volumes for the AWD system! Thanks!

[@theDougAngle]

Real world example of living with a Tesla. I love the authenticity.

[@evdave528]

I try

[@xploration1437]

Getting in without kicking the snow off your shoes killed me a little?

[@evdave528]

Didn’t show it in video but I did

[@xploration1437]

@@evdave528 My bad brother. Keep it up!

[@bonzyb]

Thanks for the video. Picking up my long range Y with the optional 20s on Sunday and confirming my order for Blizzaks on 18’s on Monday. I feel confident WhiteY Ford will be ready for the snowy winters of upstate NY!

[@evdave528]

It should be awesome

[@thomash7573]

Thanks for the video Dave. I live in the canadian prairies and we get some nasty winter weather and very cold temps. I am really curious about how well the heat pump works to heat the cabin. Is it slower/ not as warm as an ICE?

[@evdave528]

The heat pump worked very well but like all heat pumps, don’t know for sure, but I believe it has a resistance heater when really cold.

[@huzygaming7216]

Hey dave! Copypasted this from your part1... Appreciate the video, always nice to see beautiful snowy conditions... can't wait for the snow here in Sweden. I notice as many others did many "beginner mistakes"! Tip 1: preheat the car for about 60mins, don't use maximum heat since windshield might crack with that much snow on top and if you have a stone chip or small crack allready. Tip 2, try to charge all night so battery keeps warm, yours was cold since charging was already complete Tip 3: don't use windshield wipers or windows before clearing snow and ice... can break. For the Windows you can use an old credit card to slide between the rubber and window to clear any ice-buildup. Wipers you can brush of the snow and manually slap(with caution) against the windshield to clear some ice. Tip 4: it's your car but please just slap the boots together to release snow rather then kicking your beautiful car... Tip5: don't use performance tires in the cold, they suck on snow and ice and they get badly damaged from the cold since that type of rubber is not made for those temps. Tip 6: when driving in snow, use momentum. If you get stuck, don't mash the pedal and rely on TC... go little back, then forward again to get some momentum. Would probably been able to drive there if you did that trick. Tip 7: don't put the extendercord and charge cable buried in snow, hang the cord end/connection on something so it's not buried in water(water+electricity is bad!). The charge cable box should probably also be above snow and you can use a plastic bag to cover it. Again, thanks for the snow video and please consider my tips :)

[@evdave528]

Thanks for the info, best

[@chaleethao1986]

11:38 when you said you preheated the car for 30min...and show a generic screenshot of the app? because how is it still 2F in the car when you preheated for 30min? I find turning on climate + defrosters = the car pouring ungodly amounts of electricity into getting the car hot and for the past week(s) with this cold coming in, that I just need 5min of turning on climate + defrosters and I once I reach my 3, I can easily hop in, hit the window wiper to clear w/e, and drive off...while others are scraping off frost with their ICE on. It's really not the cold we fear, but that everything in the car uses electricity to run, so range will get a bite in winter if you like your cabin to be nice and warm when you drive around and the heat pump doesn't really do much when it's that cold.

[@mmanda515]

Apparently, he took the screenshot, when he turned the pre-heat ON..... not after the 30min. As can clearly be seen on the screenshot itself, says to set at 60 degrees, that it's currently 2 degrees inside & then, at the bottom, click here.... Guessing he prob set, took image & then clicked to turn ON & start pre-heat for 30 min. Stay safe & be well.

[@evdave528]

An hour would have been better at 9

[@dathyr1]

I feel sorry for the poor Tesla vehicle going through that rough raw cold weather and sitting outside all the time. But it seems to still operate ok once the doors are not frozen. Glad Illinois does not get down to that kind of weather very often. Usually raw temps are 0 to 20F degrees. Our wind chills do approach those minus temps from time to time. When it snows here usually in the 20 to 30F degrees range. My vehicles are in a warmer home garage at night. Wow, you do have a very long Frontage road to get back into your place. Thanks for your winter videos with the Tesla. Take care.

[@peevee605]

That thing with the window, I had on my BMW 320d GT x-Drive too in winter.

[@evdave528]

I think all cars have these issues

[@peevee605]

@@evdave528 all cars with the frameless construction do.

[@gumerzambrano]

Watching from sunny 62° Los Angeles. Thanks for the great video man ! Really exhilarating. Don't think I've seen snow in around 7 years

[@Duxa_]

why not use the app to start heat remotely? without opening the door and risking damage.

[@Xanthopteryx]

Bad cell coverage?

[@evdave528]

I tested it both ways thanks

[@edwardw248]

Hey Elon, how about a hitch mounted snow blade, and use smart summon, to push in reverse.

[@evdave528]

I saw that on a tic tok someone did that

[@HeliTom84]

Change to winter tires! 🥴 isn’t it requirement over there ? It is here in Norway

[@evdave528]

If you live where it’s snowy it is something you should do but I don’t think it’s mandatory. I travel to the cold so decided to use All Season tires not the best

[@jebaker2]

I sure as hell hope it can.... My Model Y lives in Wisconsin. ❄️ 🥶

[@jonitalia6748]

Vote for Trump if you want to abolish snow

[@jebaker2]

I'd take 12 months of snow before I'd do that. 😂

[@evdave528]

My buddy Lee has an AWD Model Y and he tells me it’s the best handling car he has driven in the cold and snow

[@donwilkinson1986]

While I appreciate the effort to create a video, this truly is painful to watch!

[@mromar2724]

Couldnt agree more. It’s excruciating 😣. There could only have been one outcome with those 21inch summer tires in snow.

[@liambolling]

Yah I stopped half way through. Why didn’t he preheat the car? Why is he keeping the door open? So much cringe stuff

[@kkal1183]

On so many levels

[@Duxa_]

@@liambolling I think door open because the window didnt roll all the way down, if you try close it it will hit the trim and scratch it.

[@mromar2724]

Word is that re runs of this videos are played to torture captured enemy soldiers. No one has lasted past the first view

[@RCPVIDEOS1]

Waiting to pick up my AWD Y in Columbus. Glad they handle well in snow. Noticed the Amateur radio tower beside the house. Is your friend a ham? Beautiful location.

[@evdave528]

Yes we both are

[@MechayaAlta]

What’s your range loss at these low temps?

[@stuchababe142]

I have the same car, u expierence about 30% loss in winter

[@evdave528]

Not sure maybe 10-15% when you preheat

[@teslahabesha5770]

Nice video but you can't be doing that in summer tires.....looks like it's doing ok in spite of that though. A lil 15 min warm up on the app would help you a lot too

[@evdave528]

Those tires is all I had and they didn’t do well plowing snow

[@jebaker2]

How's the charging port heater working?

[@evdave528]

Great

[@CSAFMedia]

Will you add a 'Part 3' with your new 'All Season / Winter' tires?

[@evdave528]

On my next trip to Wyoming

[@lanceoa]

Car cover?

[@huzygaming7216]

Try using winter tires and you will have amazing grip on snow and ice. (Nokian hakkapeliitta or continental vikingcontact7 is great winter tires)

[@RichOren]

I would take a look at that manual in completion - seems to help.

[@esah9182]

How to get in a Tesla on a cold winter morning? Answer: Bang the driver side window with your fist for a while. What a luxury vechicle.

[@hqsound5582]

Summer-tires are dangerous & bad even if there's no snow on the road, because they get to stiff in the cold temperature. Read up & do your homework on tires.

[@JohnSmith-ug5ci]

It looks like tesla has a serious design flaw in the door handle and window. Also you should be using an extension cord with 10 gage. You lose a lot of current with the 12 gage.

[@evdave528]

All cars can have frozen doors and Windows, yes bigger wire is better but at 10-12 amps it’s not a real big problem

[@happycamperinc.]

Traction control is nuts in Tesla's

[@raneewhitfield3670]

Thank you Dave!

[@seawatts12]

What rims and tires do you have on there?

[@richardouimet5091]

Range tests in freezing temps 32 F or below would be helpful to see how heat pump really works versus model 3 with no heat pump.

[@senordockman1138]

Why would you go to Wyoming this time of year? What is your elevation there?

[@evdave528]

I think 7500 feet ASL

[@bcrouse1]

@EVDave will you please consider coming to my home in Virginia as I don’t have anyone around here that has a Tesla. My Mom really needs to be concerned Tesla would be a great option for me

[@evdave528]

Brad has she taken time to watch my videos? Tell her a Tesla, All 4 models are the safest cars made. You charge it like a cellphone at night for pennies, essentially no maintenance, oil changes service . If I am heading your way maybe we can meet

[@Macoromni]

@EV Dave Is your MY gets displayed range reduced in winter. I am at Toronto, and these 3 weeks it keeps losing displayed range from 458km to 423km now at 100% SOC. I can see you have 180mile at about 70%, so what your Tesla App shows at 100% SOC?

[@evdave528]

I found it I preheat which includes battery range loss is less.

[@frecklesx20]

What’s your range in cold weather?

[@evdave528]

Not allot less not sure of exact numbers maybe 10-15%?

[@daveb7206]

I think a diesel truck is needed for that environment and a Tesla Garage with heat to keep those issues minimum

[@evdave528]

If you use a block heater

[@markelkins8432]

The vehicle is NOT charging the Lithium Battery - not at -32°C I guess the 120V is just keeping the car "running" (Electrics - etc) and no more than that. I see a cover as being a good idea - to reduce the ice clogging up things. Surely a sane person would put any vehicle under some sort of cover (structure) in these conditions?

[@Xanthopteryx]

Ehh. No? Works perfectly in Sweden, if you have a proper car.

[@huzygaming7216]

@@Xanthopteryx works great with a Tesla in sweden aswell... This guy just clearly don't know what he is doing. Dm:a mig på instagram(@tehjimos) om du har några frågor 🙂

[@jamsbong]

My BMW is window is also frameless. It is essential to warm up the car until all the ice has melted around the window. Then you can close the door. So I just start the car and crank the heat to max until everything melts. which took 20+ mins. So this is typical ownership in the freezing north. Not unique to EVs

[@Xanthopteryx]

Never had any problem what so ever with our Volvo, or our previous Mazda. It just... works.

[@PrimeGameZone]

Thank you for the videos, really help people who are thinking about getting a Tesla. Quick question, what tires would you buy for winter?

[@hqsound5582]

Proper winter tires. I rec with spokes if you drive a lot on ice.

[@mpenlandmoto]

Blizzaks ;-)

[@evdave528]

If I lived in Wyoming I’d put winter or cross climate tires on

[@nerknerk88]

Thats a long way to go to haul the trash out to the curb, LOL. Was the car still in slip start from the day before and that's why it limited the take off?

[@evdave528]

No it’s the traction control not allowing you to spin out with 450 hp

[@007thetube]

I live in the twin cities and I’m going to cancel my order! Thanks for the heads up

[@Xanthopteryx]

Buy a Volvo. They work perfectly in the winter.

[@xploration1437]

This guy is an idiot. Don’t cancel because of him.

[@evdave528]

Ok but you won’t have any trouble if you preheat

[@glennlingard7851]

I don’t care about the car etc but what’s the story on the tractor with half tracks?

[@evdave528]

Cool huh, they work awesome unstoppable

[@glennlingard7851]

@@evdave528 very nice, look after her!

[@gilz2253]

Dave, my Model X shows low tire pressure on the display as soon as the outside temp dips into the 50s with the car parked. How is it that your Model Y didn't indicate (I couldn't see it on the display) low tire pressure with outside temps in single digits? Was your TPM system working?

[@huzygaming7216]

Maybe he raised them like you should when it gets cold.

[@evdave528]

The air when shrinks, always keep pressure at the designated recommendation in winter. As a mechanic told me air doesn’t leak into your tires. I set pressures when cold and it’s fine

[@bluetrepidation]

Can you try to Rain X the inside and outside of the windows?

[@evdave528]

Interesting not sure on inside

[@captgrant]

So plugged in overnight didn't charge the car fully?

[@pareriksson3711]

110v is Way to low

[@evdave528]

It chargers at 3-4 miles per hour at the power level

[@TheSilversheeps]

whats with leaving your paper rubbish on the floor?put it in the bin, i'm not your mum...

[@jamesenglish781]

help a little when you shelter to keep snow off

[@evdave528]

It would have been nice but wanted to test it

[@gregoriomunoz7176]

It’s painful to see this folk in his Tesla ... 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@buzzofftoxicblog791]

We did have some snow ❄ once in 20 years we live by the sea great to see snow. I think I would have a garage if I lived there #buzzofftoxic #ClimateChange #nonprofitleadership

[@Xanthopteryx]

Welcome to Sweden. Most people do not have a garage and it works, if you have a properly built car.

[@wineberryred]

Dave, I don't own a Tesla, why do you need to enter a code to drive?

[@Just_Derek]

It's just added security. Most probably don't do that.

[@evdave528]

If you lose your phone, which is the key, someone could take your car

[@pepecordero85]

I’m out, can’t take it any more

[@ManuNarang]

For everyone watching, this is exactly how not to treat your car in the winter

[@evdave528]

Everyone, the Model Y handled the weather fine, not even a scratch in the paint since it was 100% Xpel wrapped. It was a Test

[@skirolf]

Why don’t you use a nice snow brush to clear the snow? Melting the snow like you do create a lot of water and in the night will freeze the car again. Please be a little polite to your car

[@evdave528]

It was a test

[@sailman1727]

Painful to watch and most of the problems stem from being too lazy to clear the snow off when he could.

[@Xanthopteryx]

Welcome to real world. Can not go out and clean the car several times an hour... I have a properly designed car and it is NEVER any problem during winter.

[@sailman1727]

@@Xanthopteryx I live in midwest Canada and it gets real world out here in winter.

[@Xanthopteryx]

@@sailman1727 And you brush your car in the night? Several times? And when at work, you go out like every hour if it snows?

[@sailman1727]

@@Xanthopteryx Every time I drive or move the car yes or you get the problems he had, something you learn out here. This is all I'll say on this.

[@Xanthopteryx]

@@sailman1727 And it snows, and then get above 0 C, and then it freezes again. Or it rains and it drops below 0. All kinds of scenarios happens here every winter. Can be -10 in the evening and above 0 on the morning and the other way. And freezing rain that gives an ice armor on the entire car. And heavy snow at the same time as you have a warm car, and then park it at arrival and then it freezes. And at work, i certainly do not go out and brush of the snow before starting the heater. I start the heater before (depending on temperature) and then I go out and brush while it heats up a bit more. And the brush is of course inside of the car.

[@Jthomas808]

what state are you in?

[@evdave528]

That was Wyoming

[@bobtremblay311]

Door problem at 6 F....i can imagine how it will work on -40 C

[@taztaz79]

You really wont have issues if you clear your car from snow like a normal human... then pre-heat .. you wont have any issues and you wont have water running down into the door handles like that freezeing everything ...

[@Xanthopteryx]

@@taztaz79 Can not clear the car several times an hour. How did you think now?! Are you up the whole night clearing snow? Or do you not work? This is basic things a car should handle. Never had any problem. Living in Sweden... And what if cell coverage is bad so you can not preheat? Or you do not have the time to preheat?

[@evdave528]

Ice is 32degF or 0C it dissent get any harder

[@greglambert5154]

Check our basil beat car - you tube. Any parallels here?

[@kevinfoley9633]

Conclusion ... Tesla is not a cold weather vehicle.

[@taztaz79]

Conclusion.. A Tesla is like all other cars in winter climate.. A car is not stupid proof.. If you dont clear the car properly you will run into problems.. he did all things wrong... An electric car is better in winter than all other ICE cars actually.. you wont have any problems starting it up in -30 to -40c like you will have with an ICE car..

[@Xanthopteryx]

@@taztaz79 Have a Volvo now, and previously a Mazda. Never had any problem, and i live in Sweden. Winter here is... challenging in a lot of ways.

[@nickelilltroll6]

Coclusion, this video shows how to NOT do it!!! Driven Teslas, other electric vehicles in artic climate for 8 years, been 8 troublefree years as well. So happy not using dirty old, slow fossilcars anymore....

[@huzygaming7216]

@@Xanthopteryx Teslas has been better than all volvos and VWs I've had in norrbotten, sweden.

[@evdave528]

It can be if you preheat it drives better than most

[@mikeonspinner]

That’s why I didn’t buy a Tesla. I live in a similar environment with cold temperatures and snowy days. I wouldn’t want to deal with this problem on a regular basis.

[@STR8Top]

Pre heating the car 15 min before you go in and the window not going down is a non-issue (had a coupe before with frameless and i couldnt pre heat the car - i was sweating after hard beating the window frame lol) and of course 4 winter tires instead of his summer ones and my 3 is a blast to drive and to live with

[@taztaz79]

He got the issues because he didnt take care of the car properly.. when it has snowed like 30 cm the normal human would clear the car from snow to not get any issues like he had... I also get issues with my car if i dont do it... the snow then thaws and water getting frozen again all over makeing it hard to open doors and windows and such... so... if you live in a snow climate... here is a list to not get into the problems he have.. When going out to the car... 1. start pre-heating 2. use a "car snow brush" to clear the car from snow.. 3. remove any ice that has been built up and is now loose due to the pre heating.. 4. when getting into the car.. remove any snow from your cloths and tap your shoes together to remove any snow... if you get too much snow into the car like this guy in the video you will have problems with the car fogging up and doors will freeze shut more easily... and... use proper tires for the climate, for your safety and also all other road users...

[@pareriksson3711]

I think he did it, just for testing it

[@Xanthopteryx]

@@taztaz79 You obviously do not live in this kind of climate. Are you up during the night to clear snow?! Are you leaving work to clear snow like every hour? Just have a proper car and it will work.

[@Xanthopteryx]

@@STR8Top Of course it will be an issue in certain weather. Preheat for 15 minutes does NOT help when the car is covered in snow/ice slush frozen shit.

[@jshio1563]

Nice£

[@MartellXO1000]

It looks like this car is not for winter at all.

[@evdave528]

Using summer tries it did excellent. Put some snow tires on it makes it unstoppable

[@Xanthopteryx]

Buy a Volvo. It is designed to handle winter. Never had any problems even when the car was covered in two cm of frozen slush.

[@nickelilltroll6]

So you have experiance from Tesla or other electric cars in artic climate? No!? Well, I have. Both Tesla and new Volvo, no difference!! This video show how NOT to do it!! It´s always good to study and learn from others before making a fool of youself...

[@Xanthopteryx]

@@nickelilltroll6 This is ridiculous... kzbin.info/www/bejne/oH-2p398fLWNoZI kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIbRg4SHaql_bpo

[@brianbruton2897]

Dont like you leving the electric plug in the snow i wont whant to pick that up

[@whitlockbr]

My next vehicle will be a tesla.

[@mike.n.davies]

No electrically heated windscreen in a Tesla? No heated steering wheel? Thats poor from an alleged 'premium' vehicle. Or were these options and not specified?

[@JoeMcFarlanesgoogle]

Front windshield & side mirrors are all heated. Model X has a heated steering wheel, but I don't think the Y does. In theory if you pre-heated the car for 20-30 minutes prior to getting in, steering wheel shouldn't be too bad but you're right that for $60k a heated steering wheel would be nice.

[@smr32061]

The key here is to preheat vehicle before getting into the car when dealing with those kinds of extreme temps and sub zero conditions. That's what this feature is there for. It needs to be done.

[@mike.n.davies]

@@JoeMcFarlanesgoogle Thanks joe, but I cannot find any reference to an electrically heated windscreen online. I don't mean electrically heated air being blown onto the windscreen, I mean heating elements buried in the windscreen glass. As there seemed to be a problem with windscreen fogging in this video, I was wondering if Model Y had such a feature and the driver had not used it? The one on my Skoda Karoq clears fogging in seconds and melts outside ice in a minute or so.

[@mike.n.davies]

@@smr32061 I agree pre-heating is absolutely necessary at such extremes. It would be in any car, whatever the fuel. Just wondering if the driver hadn't activated the electric windscreen or there is not one on the Model Y (see above).

[@smr32061]

@@mike.n.davies to my knowledge, Tesla does not have this feature in the windscreen or windshield. At least in the Model Y or 3.

[@paulbergey1917]

Is this guy for real ??? Clean the snow off your car so it doesn't melt and refreeze. Did you slip on the ice and hit your head too many times ???

[@Xanthopteryx]

You do not live in this kind of climate, that is obvious. You can not stay up the whole nigh clearing snow every hour or more often, and when at work, you have to work, not clear the car from snow the entire time.

[@evdave528]

It was a test

[@thebignewfie]

Did you go to bed with 159 miles charge and wake up with 141 miles charge??!

[@MountainSense1]

My thoughts exactly. It was preheating for 30 min but it was plugged in all night. That doesn't bode well for setting out on a long trip when range is needed after a cold night.

[@thebignewfie]

@@MountainSense1 oh wow interesting. I pick up my model Y on Saturday 10am. Our winters here in Toronto are COLD

[@Xanthopteryx]

Yes. Not enough power on 110V to keep things running AND charge battery.

[@huzygaming7216]

@@thebignewfie my Model 3 have worked awesome down until -20°C... didn't get colder than that last winter... usually it gets down to -35°C or so. Range is about 400km in -10°C on snow/icy roads with 19" LR Performance with warm battery and cabin.

[@evdave528]

Preheat uses allot of power

[@slickbelge]

you can afford a tesla but ya cant afford a carport?

[@theDougAngle]

Not his place. He's visiting a buddy.

[@Xanthopteryx]

@@theDougAngle And at work? Have you a carport there? And i could afford a Tesla but can not build a car port (not allowed). So, well, several reasons. But, i have a properly built car. Things just... work.

[@evdave528]

Not my house

[@JoshuaDegreiff]

Second

[@nickelilltroll6]

I still dont get it? Is he for real? Have he ever heard of removing the snow, pre-heat and wintertires? These things are common knowledge for ANY electric OR fossilcar-owner! KZbin aint for everyone I understand...."one of the benefits with Tesla is that it saves you from "overacceleration"..... Yes, this is a very specificTesla-feature, indeed...the list is long here, it really hurts watching! Will now rest my mind and eyes with some radio to calm down...

[@Xanthopteryx]

Ehh. No, except winter tires of course. I do not stay up the whole nigh clearing snow every hour, and when at work, i do not go outside clearing snow every hour. I have a properly built car so i just, open the door and drive away. If the window is covered in ice/snow, then of course scrape that off. And snow on the car you brush off since it is a hazard driving around with loose snow. It just works. Now a Volvo, previously a Mazda. No problem what so ever. But they are properly designed and built so...

[@Xanthopteryx]

And sometimes you can not preheat. How do you do then?

[@nickelilltroll6]

@@Xanthopteryx Sometimes? I´ve driven electric cars, and Teslas in artic winter for 8 years now, much more brutal then cozy Wyoming. Not ONCE could i NOT preheat the car...Why wouldnt I?

[@nickelilltroll6]

@@Xanthopteryx Do you seriously think that all electric car owners have no previous experiance of driving and owning a fossilcar? It´s called an app on your phone! Preheat the car for 10 minutes, before you get out there. Problem solved! Did the same on my old Volvo V60 diesel, no difference..This guy havent realised the pro´s driving electric. 30 YEARS of driving, never going back to those shitty fossilcars again...n

[@Xanthopteryx]

@@nickelilltroll6 Because you do not have access to your phone until you just left work? Or when you have to go like Now, within a few minutes?

[@wetzel82]

I fee a bit early lol.

[@marinpopov9883]

When the car is smarter than you!

[@jshio1563]

-3 that's sad

[@vaughnkhouri1364]

first lol