Part 2 of Harley 5 Speed Shifter Slop Fix. Inner and Outer Primary Removal. Shaft lever replacement.

In part 2 of this video we will be removing a worn out shifter shaft lever the proper way. Join me in the shop as we remove the inner and outer primary, clutch basket, starter jackshaft, compensator and more! Just to remove the shifter shaft lever.

[@_2wheelsmovesthesoul_619]

Man, i tell EVERYONE new to Harleys, check your Shifter pinch bolt on the tranny regularly, especially on a dyna or dresser. Cause if you wipe out the splines on the shifter pawl, you'll be pulling the gearset out to replace it. Jus keep it tight an you gon be ok

[@butlercustoms]

Great advice! Thanks for watching!

[@shanes_bs2659]

I learned the hard way. That's what brings me here. But, I discovered a great harley mechanic on youtube because of it.

[@butlercustoms]

@shanes_bs2659 those are some very kind words! Thank you.

[@onlyifyouwould3204]

very helpful video thanks for showing every step and tools that make it easier to replace the pawl. instead of running in to problems in the middle of the job. snap-on has the lock ring tool you are looking for at a good price. please keep making your videos.

[@butlercustoms]

Thank you for your kind words and I’ll certainly check out that tool.

[@buddyandrade335]

Great video watched both part one and part two gave me a lot of knowledge about changing the rear transmission shifter arm in which I need to do. Again thank you and I will be watching more of your videos and recommend them to my friends. 😁

[@butlercustoms]

That’s awesome. Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@fenderben]

Great tutorial bro. You know what you’re doing. Looks like my 06 road king will needing the same thing. I just don’t feel that comfortable doing all that myself. At 65 I recently got my first Harley. Just learned how to tighten the handlebars. That was an involved job for me but I took the time to do it right. Thanks again. Will follow you and subscribe.

[@butlercustoms]

Thank so much for your kind words! And congrats on the Road King. Those are good riding bikes.

[@Ex3t3r]

The one I have been waiting for. Absolutely great tutorial and the running commentary is invaluable too, also the tips you give us only come with many years of experience. Thank you sir again for taking the time and patience to film/edit this video (my gear lever also is showing signs of wear so this will help me out immensely)

[@butlercustoms]

I’m so glad I could help out! And thank you for those kind words of encouragement and support!

[@72SeaHag]

Have you ever known anyone to be able to drill through the shift shaft lever and shift shaft; and press in a roll pin to stop the shift lever from spinning on the shaft? Not sure if it could be done with the inner primary in place; but if I have to go so far as to replicate all this work you're doing, I think I'd take that precaution just to make sure I never have to worry about those splines wearing down again.

[@butlercustoms]

I’ve never seen anyone drill for a pin before. Not sure what tool one would use. It’s a very tight spot. It sure is a big job but once that shaft is rounded it’s toast. Thanks for watching.

[@aprilgoodspeed4835]

Nice work Butler!

[@butlercustoms]

Thank you for those kind words.

[@yoso585]

Yes sir. If she’s loosy, absolutely no better time than right now to make it tighty. I had to back my bolt out and run it back in to snug her up. Didn’t want to budge and scared of snapping it otherwise. Whoo! Life is good again. 😎😎

[@yoso585]

Good to see what’s going on in there. Great vid!

[@butlercustoms]

Thank you!

[@tomrodgers8467]

Use Jim's tool 5517, no trans dissemble needed!

[@butlercustoms]

Unfortunately, that tool is for 2007s and up. The older 5 speeds require trans gear removal. But thanks for sharing.

[@devildigger1404]

Excellent video !

[@butlercustoms]

Thank you for watching!

[@darrylg7600]

Great video! I learned a lot.

[@butlercustoms]

Thanks for watching!

[@MrLeisters]

MAN! Ya gotta support the housing when pressing in the bearing! I hate that for ya.

[@butlercustoms]

Correct, and I did. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@dennytuma]

you said the chrome piece by the shift arm was in the way so why did you leave it on?

[@butlercustoms]

Great question. The customer wanted that piece back on so I just shaved it down for clearance.

[@RogerJohnson-j9v]

this is way above my pay grade to do , i would need that fancy socket you have to do mine

[@butlercustoms]

It is a big job but if you take your time it’s pretty simple. If a man built it, then another man can fix it. Ha thanks for watching and commenting!

[@toddaod295]

Thanks so much for this video. My rear shift shaft's splines are great shape but the shaft defiantly has some play but no fluid leaks. No shifting issues but should I be concerned? Possibly issues with the pawl? thanks again

[@butlercustoms]

I would certainly inspect it. If left neglected then you will have to get into the transmission just like I had to. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@Aaron-qh3hr]

Awesome video! You do an outstanding job with explanations and detail. How many labor hours do you charge for this repair?

[@butlercustoms]

Thank you for your kind words and for watching. It was several hours of work but it turned out great.

[@Aaron-qh3hr]

@@butlercustoms is removing the old inner shift rod the only way to tell if the shaft needs to be replaced?

[@butlercustoms]

No. You should be able to visually inspect the shaft splines once the shifter arm is removed.

[@Aaron-qh3hr]

@@butlercustoms are you currently taking in customer bikes? I’m in TN too, and looking at a couple bikes for sale near you that might need a little love. One bike has the bad/sloppy shifter issue, and another has a bad rear axle bearing.

[@butlercustoms]

@Aaron-qh3hr absolutely! I’d be honored to help you out.

[@1768rs]

Great videos ,one question what is the ballpark labor price for this job ?

[@butlercustoms]

Thank you for your kind words. That’s a great question. Each shop has their own rates that are usually set based on their overhead cost. So independent shops like me are usually about half the price of the dealerships on labor because we have very little overhead. As far as labor hours go, independent shop will usually bill more hours than a dealership. And the reason is often because the independent shops take their time and do a lot more inspections and care for each bike. While dealerships have to crank bikes out the door. Hope this helps.

[@whizkeyman2022]

Nice video! But me being a little ocd I'd have to clean all that grease of the case. It's making bat shit crazy just watching. Lol

[@butlercustoms]

@@whizkeyman2022 I never clean customers bikes. Some like them looking weathered and road grimy. I leave that up to them.

[@whizkeyman2022]

I understand that! Some customers are a little anal about things.

[@butlercustoms]

@@whizkeyman2022 that’s true.

[@wojpyz]

Do you recommend to upgrade for inner primary case for single piece bearing instead of two piece stock bearing? Hopefully that makes sense.

[@butlercustoms]

Personally I’ve not noticed any difference. As long as the bearing is a good quality bearing. Good question. Thanks.

[@CharlesMurphy-q6j]

Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@butlercustoms]

Thank you!

[@gradycarter4846]

Hey man good job what bout qaud seal

[@butlercustoms]

The main shaft quad seal was installed. Not sure if I showed that or not.

[@gradycarter4846]

Hey good great job need more like this ya doing wat ya like to do keep on turning bolts

[@dannyarendall5233]

WAC that Paul aftermarket

[@guypmiller]

Thanks!

[@butlercustoms]

Wow! You folks are too much! I’m certainly blessed to have a KZbin family like y’all. Mind blown. 🤯

[@krogersucks45]

How many miles were on this bike?

[@butlercustoms]

Can’t remember off hand but I’m thinking around 60k?

[@butlercustoms]

The mileage might be at the beginning of the Part 1 video.

[@ericgutierrez8028]

What are the torque specs for the main shaft nut and the plate around it? Also torque specs for the dip stick plate?

[@butlercustoms]

I usually don’t mention torque specs in my videos for the reason that some models and years have different specs. So I would recommend looking it up for your specific bike.

[@ericgutierrez8028]

@@butlercustoms understood. I have one last question, I have a 96 Heritage which I need to change the pawl. Is the process the same from this video?

[@butlercustoms]

@ericgutierrez8028 yes

[@ericgutierrez8028]

@@butlercustoms awesome! Thank you and keep doing your videos

[@butlercustoms]

@@ericgutierrez8028 thank you for your kind words.

[@Ex3t3r]

Thanks

[@butlercustoms]

Wow! My first super thanks! Much appreciated!

[@Ex3t3r]

@@butlercustoms It's not a lot I know but a small token of my appreciation. To all of you other subscribers a small voluntary donation helps men like Butler Customs and gives them an incentive to keep on sharing their knowledge and experience with us👍

[@butlercustoms]

@@Ex3t3r It's certainly more than expected! Thanks again.

[@Kyle-pz7os]

I just don’t get why you wouldn’t have cleaned the case up before opening the trans, there’s dirt everywhere. Not the best practice.

[@butlercustoms]

The reason I didn’t clean it off before was that I had to empty the case out anyways. So I cleaned it on the backend. Same difference.

[@mrvbaker]

Is the other bike finished up yet

[@butlercustoms]

Just got to button up a few odds and ends.