Part 24, KISS - Recording "Hot In Shade", Paul needs a Break and Eric is unhappy

-Recording "Hot In Shade"
-Paul needs a Break, trouble with Pam
-Eric is unhappy in the Band
Taken from:
Gene Simmons - Kiss and Make Up
Paul Stanley - Face the Music: A Life Expo

[@edtausky8236]

I agree with Paul that the end outro of Forever is hugely awesome. Damn glad he didn't let the record company change it

[@martywhite2988]

Gee Paul. Let's see. You deny Eric the opportunity to play a song on Ace's album, you deny him the opportunity to play some clubs with Ace, then you do your own tour. Then you release an album that uses a drum machine on many songs. And you wonder why Eric stopped talking to you.

[@martywhite2988]

@Coogan well, that's where you're wrong. Eric and Ace were talking about touring around the same time Paul did his first solo tour. Eric was also invited to play on Breakout a few years before, but Paul wouldn't let him. I heard this on one of the podcasts. If they're wrong, they're wrong. It makes sense to me. Ace and Eric got along real well. But I'm glad you've chosen this time to reply to one of my comments that isn't so old that it's silly to reply to. 😘

[@martywhite2988]

@Coogan Who said Frehley's Comet was good? Not me. But way to keep focused. 🎉

[@martywhite2988]

@Coogan you sound like the kind of guy who has a giant poster of Paul Stanley's Crazy Nights thong picture above his bed. See ya later, Champ.

[@DrJ-hx7wv]

​@@martywhite2988I have no idea what's going on, but this is a hilarious reply.

[@michaelr.4878]

I wonder if Paul and Bill Aucoin ever 'did it'...?

[@MxMoondoggie]

Gene like "I made a record label so I could take younger bands and make money off them". He did that to a lot of bands and artists, long as he made money off it he didn't care.

[@stevedamien638]

Its how it work, Why labels would take bands otherwise??

[@dwade6322]

I find it hard to believe he made any REAL money from 'House of Lords' 'Wendy O Williams' or any other lesser known bands he had signed. Those bands had a lot of promotion an money invested to make things happen,but no way could they ever made a respectable return on those numbers.

[@dangeller4525]

I dont believe eric carr did drugs

[@DrJ-hx7wv]

I can't picture it

[@DavidNeumeier-wp2oc]

Eric Carr never did Illegal Drugs. Eric's Sister has said several times in Interviews my Brother Pauly (which is what Eric Carr's family called him) She has said my Brother Pauly has never used Illegal drugs he saw what it did to his friends and Refused to be like that.

[@nickgodfrey1148]

Michael Bolton had “virtually nothing” to do with writing ‘Forever’. How did I know Paul was going to say that…..?????

[@michaellarocque2926]

because thats the kind of egotistical piece of shit that Paul is

[@trurobertson]

Saw Kiss in Atlanta on this tour at the Lakewood Amphitheatre with my sister and a few other friends. Little Creaser, Danger Danger and Slaughter opened up for them . The show was amazing. Good times

[@hailholyqueen]

I was there. Great show!!!

[@wendylee1213]

I just caught myself talking out loud "you never lie down after a serious accident Paul!! What if you had a concussion?!!" 🤨 Mom of 6 here. 🙄😜🤦 LOL

[@ludwigkonig8368]

King of Hearts one of the Best Kiss Songs

[@chrisvanuden]

Everybody was wrong during Pauls carreer. Ace, Peter, Gene, Vinnie. Even Eric Carr gets accused of using drugs, even though there was no evidence for that at all. Pathetic.

[@martywhite2988]

@Coogan Man. You have knowledge trouble. Paul has said a few times that he wondered if Eric was using. Like the other guy said, there wasn't evidence that Eric was using. Way to be wrong twice in one night. 😘

[@martywhite2988]

@Coogan I never said he accused Eric directly to his face. The accusation happened years after Eric was dead. Anyway, you're having trouble understanding the word "accuse." Please use a dictionary.

[@mikerivera7509]

He is a crybaby

[@martywhite2988]

@@mikerivera7509 Be careful Mike. Paul Stanley's fluffer is right below you.

[@benignasiak3465]

I say get. Ace and Peter get there asses in shape put the shit a side and do two final shows I am share Peter and ace could do it.I seen them in buffalo not good Paul was using backing tracks it was weird.Just put everything aside and go out in style ya know

[@Pianodean]

I remember being very excited about House of Lords. Gregg Giuffria is from south Mississippi about an hour south of where I grew up and Giuffria was my first concert (they were opening for Foreigner). They were pretty much a re-constituted version of "Giuffria" but a little heavier. I liked them...but once Gregg retired from music...that was pretty much when grunge destroyed our beloved 80's metal.

[@hairband5410]

My first concert was Hot in the Shade with Slaughter and Faster Pussycat.

[@kissdiaries]

I saw Faster Pussycat together with Dangerous Toys and The Almighty, great Band!

[@jeremywanner4526]

My condolences

[@kissdiaries]

😅@@jeremywanner4526

[@mikerivera7509]

Gene saying he called Joe Walsh was almost as funny as him saying McCartney was going to be on that solo turd

[@dansweet6793]

I like Paul's work drive, he knows what he wants but accuses everyone if it doesn't go his way, I think you should go with the flow if you're in a band and if it's not working try out new things, instead of throwing shame and pointing fingers at the people that get onstage and back you.

[@ajjy1110]

Sphinx never shot flames just lasers

[@LEIFanevret]

Of course Eric Carr was dissapointed! Hallo!? He wanted to sing more! Wanted a couple of His owns tunes on THE albums even Peter Criss got more of that!

[@97warlock]

Sometimes Paul is hard to follow for very long as he likes to rndomly throw in scenarios & strange big words that Ive never heard anyone say before & then it goes into him saying something I almost expect him to say. Wish hed drop the rehearsed script & just talk.

[@JosephMcKenna-he7ps]

9/16/23 Wowza! Great episode! After writing "Forever" with Bolton, Paul still wasn't accepted into the "Hollywood Songwriters", sad! And I forgot of Gene's record label...Good stuff!

[@donniekellerman5833]

Ummm....there's an untruth here? Can you see it?? Here it is....Gene says he was 'best man' at Paul's wedding. In Paul's book he says, Gene was against marriage & therefore wasn't invited to his wedding & Paul says he was upfront about it right away. So, who's telling the truth???

[@quinoleon9446]

Gene was Paul's best man at his first wedding to Pam. they got divorced a few years later. This is where is son Evan come from. Many years later, Paul got married again, and is still married, had 3 more kids, this is where Gene was not invited.

[@channelx92]

They both lied

[@artsteinbach4450]

Could U possibly please put a few more ads in here? There is not nearly enough?? 😂

[@rustymackemingrancanaria6360]

I have never heard any other band or musician speak so much about money as much as either of these vulgar greedy creeps. Vile!

[@JokersWild70]

Paul, and Paul alone is responsible for ALL aspects of KI$$' success. Neil Bogart, Bob Ezrin, Vinnie, Eric Carr, Mark St. John, Ace, Gene, and Peter, Sean Delaney, Bruce Fairbairn, Michael Bolton, Bill Aucoin, Kerner and Wise, the record labels....all dead weight. Great job Paul! 👍 I can't even listen to this BS. It's a total joke

[@TheGodYouWishYouKnew]

He doesn’t say this at all. What he does say is that during this time period, Gene wasn’t much of a partner. Gene mostly backs this up. I bet Gene regrets this now because it was this time period that allowed Paul to be the leader of KISS until present day.

[@user-ex5lw2sr9e]

I was 12 when Hot in the Shade came out....i really liked this album...much more than crazy nights. I really feel bruce REALLY started coming out of his shell. His solos on this album were melodic and perfect

[@CobyBassett]

Pro Tip: When you're in a rock band and your song gets misappropriated to Michael Bolton, you know you're doing something wrong.

[@jonvisser1509]

That dude can sing Bolton. Any success is better than working 9 to 5 . Everything doesn't have to be heavy metal to be good. Forever is a great tune by this point Paul probably couldn't come up with totally on his own.

[@CobyBassett]

@@jonvisser1509 You make some valid points and I will grant you these. Paul is obviously a talented writer and performer, and his success can't be denied. He should be allowed to write and artistically explore in any musical style he wants. I personally dislike the M. Bolton style because I find it bland and sappy, but that is just my taste; Everyone is entitled to have a different opinion. I think the writing of this era of Kiss was pretty uninspired. Paul's negative attitude in the retelling of events in this video seem to correlate with this.

[@papichulo7415]

You don’t mess with the Bolt Heads no matter who you are………

[@jonvisser1509]

@@papichulo7415 didn't know they had nickname for his fan base lol. Kiss army is grateful for Forever great tune. Everything doesn't have to be heavy metal to be good

[@JoyofBooking]

​@@jonvisser1509 all of KISS' biggest hits were ballads or pop songs, that's what the casual fan wanted from them

[@LEIFanevret]

When self titulated high and mighty EGOS! Stand in THE way of sticking together as a real band! With honest inputs of all members im out! When dollar signs! Gets in THE way of normal eye sight! Sayonara!

[@AkronAsylum]

Looking at Paul Stanley today, I have to think of that old man, acting like a teenage hotshot.. Pretty sad.

[@jamesmccool503]

I saw them on this tour. It was great.

[@ericprater1970]

I've got news for Paul Stanley anybody that was around him in the '80s had to have drugs just to stand to hear his voice which nowadays he can't even hear I'll give him he made a lot of money but it was by fooling a lot of fans why do you think his solo album the one with the kiss emblem on it sucked so bad and his second solo album if he was so great at business and promoting himself he would have been playing arenas not clubs I don't think him or a lot of people will ever get without the original four and nobody wouldn't know who the hell he and that's a fact without the original kiss Paul Stanley on his own would have never got past the club scene Long live Ace and Peter

[@gregcrane4953]

Yeah, Ace and Peter were huge after being kicked out of KISS. 🤣🤣

[@carlosdanger6129]

Gene's wig is ridiculous 🤣

[@AnthonyAsher74]

Hide Your Heart was cool!

[@beeemm2578]

Paul is a classic narcissist/sociopath. Its everyone else's fault and his mental illness/personality disorder renders him incapable of seeing things in any other light.

[@DrJ-hx7wv]

I think that's Gene more than Paul.

[@DavidNeumeier-wp2oc]

And Paul as it's said in Paul Stanley's book Some people call Paul, 'Stanley the one Eared Monster'.

[@mikerivera7509]

Stanley still crying without the make up

[@rogersyme1368]

Scary seeing Bruce with a strat inhis hand...not a KISS guitar...uncool

[@mazukakai]

Bruce is holding an ESP strat

[@kevinkaatz883]

Paul was over-thinking dating/relationships, and shou!da just let things flow naturally - problem with surrounding oneself with YES people

[@MrOccyc]

Yes. Certainly sounds like he was on a personal deadline and ended up hammering the square peg in the round hole.

[@CincinnatusPublish]

My sister worked with the guy who hit Paul's car. All I remember this many years later was the next day she told me he said Paul staggered out of the car, and she started yelling at him. "You idiot! You could have killed Paul Stanley!!!"

[@nickgodfrey1148]

😆😆😆

[@michaellarocque2926]

THAT would have saved us all and the world would be a much better place

[@nickgodfrey1148]

@@michaellarocque2926 😆😆😆

[@nickgodfrey1148]

I bet Paul loved that. Even in a car crash, he got recognition.

[@tamihewitt6562]

And it would have killed me😭 I still would leave my husband for him💔

[@metalmilitia1096]

No mention of a friend of mine playing bass on 3 songs on HITS

[@tdchagas02]

Who's your friend?

[@metalmilitia1096]

@@tdchagas02 give ya a hint BH and it was done as a favor in the absence of Gene during a portion of the demo sessions which they ended up keeping the original take

[@switchbladeactiondance]

Bob Held!????? O, he did, did he..?

[@randypeters366]

Paul really gets defensive about alot of things. He/she has somewhat of a victim mentality.

[@johnnyguitar6639]

Interesting. Earlier paul was mad at Gene for doing solo stuff. Now at this time in history.Paul is doing it and automatically just want everyone to be okay with it

[@petelake7373]

Hey Paul. Seatbelts.

[@sethallison5682]

So THAT’S why Shade is the way it is. They were just trying to skim more profit by turning in a bunch of demos 😂

[@lloydalmeida7699]

While they saved money producing the album the recording sounds awful

[@Wyl7]

Paul ragging on his gf’s friends as not being “pillars of society” is hilarious. For all his waxing philosophical, his lack of self-awareness is astounding. Ummm… Paul? If all of her friends are sketchy, and she’s dating you…

[@mikerivera7509]

Stanley, did you give a rip about any accidents Ace was in?

[@user-ex5lw2sr9e]

Soooo paul and gene can do whatever they please...but eric carr was forbidden to do ANYTHING.....WOW

[@DavidNeumeier-wp2oc]

After reading all these Gene,Ace Peter,&.Paul Story Books Paul' seems to always have Absolutely zero self confidence.

[@tjsullivan5119]

Sorry, this isn’t trolling, but talking this negatively about an ex wife is really classless

[@ronbroadfoot279]

I think Paul is too judgmental about other people's hearts.

[@HHH-ye1ro]

Paul was AWFUL with relationships. You can’t force the issue. “I want to be married. Find me a wife.” Lol. He deserved to pay what he did in the divorce. Hope he’s happy now.

[@chriswilgus4752]

Sex,drugs,and lie's .....the music is never the top priority.🙄

[@WhyTheHorseface]

Ah! NOW I know why HITS sounds like crappy demos.

[@kissdiaries]

... cause they were Demos