Part 3/5 | Autism, ADHD അതിന്‌ counselling പോരാ | DR PHILIP JOHN PSYCHIATRIST |

About our guest:
Dr Philip John is senior Consultant Psychiatrist in Kochi and UAE - in practice for over 45 years. He graduated in medicine from Medical College Thiruvananthapuram and holds MD in Psychiatry from NIMHANS, Bangalore, the premier institute for Neuroscience in Asia.
Dr Philip is noted for pioneering the shift of Psychiatry into mainstream medicine in Kerala and de-stigmatizing it in a General Hospital setting.
He also pioneered the introduction of Child Psychiatry services as a Division of Psychiatry with Peejays Child Guidance Clinic in Kochi. He has authored several books and chapters. He has worked as an expert in Learning Disorders fro CBSE and his research and books in this field are known. The Vishakha Oration Award instituted by the Indian Psychiatric Society has been bestowed on Dr. Philip John. Currently Dr. Philip heads Peejays Neurocenter in Kochi.
In this five-part series Dr John covers a wide range of topics. In Part-1 of the conversation he talks about his journey into Medicine and later into Psychiatry. In the other parts of the conversation, he covers what is the difference between Psychiatry and Psychology and the stigma surrounding both the streams in Kerala. He says that Neuro Divergent disorders like Autism and ADHD cannot be treated by therapy alone. In many cases it needs medication too. Counselling is not loa one stop solution for everything. He talks about the mistakes we make in Parenting. He also talks about how he openly says that he took medicines when he had depression and how he things it is important to normalize conversations like these. He talks about the role of Deepika Padukone in removing the stigma surrounding mental illness. Pls watch the entire series and share the videos so that there is more awareness around mental health in our society.
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[@marakkothans8562]

After reading so many comments under these series, I feel the psychologists are offended by some of the statements said by Dr. But, I watched the entire series and never found where they could be offended. Doctor criticised the method in Kerala where for everything they go for counselling, and never reach to a psychiatrist, but some diseases need medicines and not just counselling. That was the point in the whole series!. And which I agree to 100%.

[@sumikukku]

Hi Dhanya ..My name is Sumitha..I work in Bahrain as an ABA therapist with kids in the spectrum..I have been in the field of ABA-Applied Behavioral Analysis -an intervention for kids with special needs for the past 9 uears and I have so much pride to have chosen this field .. I want to take a moment to thank you for spreading awareness among the community about the topic chosen in this video and for bringing a knowledgeable person on the topic. My love to you.❤

[@Vanajaschannel]

I disagree with the doctor who easily said ‘what is there to be scared if your kids have autism?’. It was an uncaring remark. Getting the diagnosis is a traumatic experience because it is a life changing experience, only the parents who go through it will understand it. Therapy has a big part in making this journey better, especially early intervention. Psychiatrist can only prescribe medicines, which in many cases has adverse side effects. Autism should not be mixed up with mental disorders like depression and trauma, which are psychological disorder, because autism is a neurological disorder and does not appear suddenly in life. Also parents research on internet is a wonderful thing, because they are the ones living with their kids and they know their kids better. I am a parent of a special needs adult and am speaking from experience. Doctors and other professionals should become more compassionate and be very mindful of what they say.

[@dia6976]

Yes dear.. Nammudey vishemam namukku mathram. 😢

[@hertravelstories]

Agreed 👍🏻 It's not easy. Fear is a natural emotion in such cases and it needs care and not ignorance. Just one correction on what you wrote. Trauma is not a mental health disorder, but the incident/impact of the incident that leads to mental health disorders like PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder), Anxiety, Depression, Personality Disorders etc. Saying being a Complex-PTSD patient who took Cognitive Processing Therapy and medicines for it. :) Tc

[@thesnimp5643]

Exactly 💯

[@Vanajaschannel]

@@hertravelstoriesyou are correct about trauma, my apologies.

[@JJose2023]

I agree cent percent to your comment. Only when you walk a while in someone shoes and experience their experiences, can one truly understand their pain. We are all trying to survive in this world whilst having average rational thinking and development in place - what about the ones who are dependent when it comes to basics like feeding and toilet? It looks fine when its a child in need but when its an adult who is dependent, it will be hard to not be worried about it. But at the same time, yes there are different ways to look at this journey - I guess it takes a lot of mental strength. I am a special needs mum myself - everytime I think I have come to terms with it, something about my child's condition, either a new revelation etc. would be there and I see myself spiraling down again. Next morning, I wake up and I go on with my routines and these anxieties remain at the back of my head - the worries about how my little one would fend for herself in a world where she may not have family around. And I guess, that's when, you truly hope the one in heaven takes care of it all because really, there's only so much you can secure for such children. Not to forget, we are all parents figuring out best options and learning to do this right - its not something that comes with an instructional manual. Much love and prayers to all in this journey.

[@nikhilanyga2461]

ഞാൻ ഈ ഡോക്ടർ ഇൻ്റെ കൂടെ work cheythitund.valare talented dr aanu .nalla result aanu ഈ doctorinte patients ine

[@shamsudheenvallapuzha3461]

"എനിക്ക് depression വന്നപ്പോൾ ഞാൻ ഈ ഡയലോഗ് ഒക്കെ കുറെ കേട്ടിട്ടുള്ളതാ "....അതായത് counciling കൊണ്ട് ഒരു കാര്യവുമില്ല എന്ന്...അത് ശരിയല്ല...psychology യും psychiatry യും പരസ്പര പൂരകങ്ങൾ ആണ്. ഒന്ന് മനസ്സിനെ കുറിച്ച് ശാസ്ത്രീയമായ പഠനങ്ങൾ നടത്തുമ്പോൾ മറ്റേത് മനസും ശരീരവും തമ്മിലുള്ള ബന്ധത്തെക്കുറിച്ച് പഠിക്കുന്നു. അതിൽ ഒന്ന് മാത്രം ശാസ്ത്രം എന്ന് പറയുന്നതിൽ അർത്ഥമില്ല.

[@snehita752]

As an occupational therapist that works with pediatrics with autism and other disabilities I have to say that therapy never claims to fix their disabilities. We train kids to be functional even with the disability. As independent as possible to decrease the burden of care and for the child to have aa much independence in their future.

[@apmubashir7314]

What about ADHD?

[@adish_sivadas]

Hello dhanya chechi with this episodes Doctor Philip John sir had made clear part about PSYCATRIST but we must also wanted to know about the PSYCHOLOGY so can you please PLAN A INTERVIEW WITH A WELLKNOWN POPULAR AND EXPERIENCED CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST so that they can also make clear about their part & let the common people understand what will be helpfull for them according to their situation

[@riyathomas5006]

Agreed..pls consider this a request from the mental health proffesionals fraternity...there's needs to be more clarity on these topics. 😊

[@miraban181]

Many questions Dhanya wants to ask but he doesn't make her to complete..

[@chackojacob24]

If the person across is an expert in a field, the objective should be to get him into a flow. At the end, we may have specific questions. This approach is different when one interviews politicians. In that case, we are trying to extract information which they with hold. So approaches should vary in my view.

[@saluee7784]

Aalku main ayit convey chynde msg... psychologist and psychatrist thammil ulla difference aahnu .. Pulli parayuna pala karyglum agree cheyan pattunilla ....

[@user-te9yo4sx6q]

He's egoistic I guess

[@ak-hx2wu]

He is an excellent doctor, treated many persons and saved so many families 🙏

[@libina687]

ഇത് പോലൊരു ടോപ്പിക്ക് വളരെ അത്യാവശ്യം ആയിരുന്നു ❤️Thankyou maam

[@Just2minsoflife]

I am a homoeopathic Dr. Once I got a case of 15yr old girl who was suffering from Examinophobia. Kure prarthanakalum okke kazhinjaanu entaduthu kondu vannathu. I told her mom she needs a thorough treatment. They asked counseling porennu. I told if you are not satisfied with homoeopathy not a psychologist she needs a psychiatrist. Athode enikku vanna aa patientum poyikitty😂. Homoeopathic medicines are working with ones mind and Will. Aa kuttye ethra counselling cheyyippichalum prarthichaalum she needs a medicine to control her thoughts. And one more thing I should add. Cause of her condition was strict parents and teachers. Their parenting style was comparing and demanding. In that case parents were the actual ones who need counseling.

[@jisnapaul3609]

Thank you Dhanya Varma for getting a speaker on a very relevant topic!

[@AnuAnu-qo2jq]

Attention deficit disorder ullavar like adikk🥲

[@anus2790]

Dhanya Ma'am please do add subtitles to your amazing show. So that we viewers could share this with my north Indian friends too

[@iamwithdhanyavarma]

Added

[@gopikak2207]

I really respect for bringing such a knowledgeable person in this podcast. ADHD is such a complex disorder where there is severe impairement in executive functioning and emotion regulation. Sometimes it may progress to adulthood ruining a person's life. " Unexplained underperformance" , "always being late" , " too much intense emotionality", " severe procastination".....thus goes.....it can reduce one's self esteem too much up to a horrible level. There are a significant amount of population out there , who often presents with anxiety or depressive symptoms with an underlying undiagnosed ADHD condition. Well, let us all hope that every brain health condition will be taken seriously in future. Wish you a happy day!

[@AnuAnu-qo2jq]

Attention deficit disorder sucks its really makes life harder.

[@AnuAnu-qo2jq]

Classil erikumbol teachers parayunnathu process chaiyan pattathavar aroke und even now enik epolum chilapol words process chaiyan difficult anu.njan endha egane ennu njn chindhitundu pinne phoneoke kitiyapolanu enik manasilayathu enik ADHD undaennu.Teachers parents think we are lazy and all kids have same learning ablitity 😢.epolenkilum ethoke address chaiyunnundalo

[@anjalip4959]

Sir, with all due respect I want you to clarify that counseling is not just advice

[@user-di7us1ue4y]

Giving advice is guidance, counseling and psychotherapy is different. I hope know one is giving advice to children with autism.

[@josefebin2229]

Dr is treating ADHD kids in a unique way

[@user-fd6ov9yj2z]

Not giving medication

[@sruthyvenuv8606]

Great interview pls do same like this. It will helpful for many

[@akhilalex7930]

Ettavum kooduthal toxic parentingum emotional blackmailingum nadakkunna state keralam anu.... Njan orikkalum entae makkalodu ennae nokkanam ennu paranju financial burden kodukkillaa... Entae retirement kalathekkullathu koodi njan karuthy vekkanam...

[@user-te9yo4sx6q]

Nammalde parent generation ith nadannitund ,but avar evideo helpel3ss aanenn swayam viswasichsth kond they started mirroring their parents and nammalilekk same parenting style implement cheythu , and nammalde generation information kooduthalayum kittunnath kondum Kure koode ind3p3ndt aayath kondum aware aan ithellam toxic aaanennnm we can come out of it ennum and nammal react cheyyunn, forgive them for being toxic, and it's not easy for them to change like us or young adults ... boubdaries set cheyyuka jeevikuka ,

[@tuxedocatthekuttipanda4214]

keralam mathramalla... Outside Kerala is more worse

[@BAGGs_vlogs]

Very good informative & awareness oriented talk....👌👌🥰👍👍

[@johnanilc]

Excellent video series. The need of the hour. Wish the format was longer and got completed in one video, so as to not break the flow.

[@Sreeshmadas]

Eagerly waiting for next episode ❤❤❤❤

[@rajivnair8205]

In the present condition this interview is very valuable 👍👍

[@_Greens_]

Omg! How informative this interview is! Philip Sir, Thank you so much for your time🙏🏻 Dhanyechi, Thank you so much for bringing sir🙏🏻 we millenial parents need these type of interviews as well.

[@ashasiyad2278]

Nice talk Dhanya❤

[@kavithark007]

I went through the 5 videos.. This interview was very nice... I too faced the same kind of depression stage.. I was looking for whom to approach to solve my real problem... Thank you sir.. And thank you Dhanya for this nice interview... Ultimately thanks to my friend who shared me this link...

[@shahnazmalu]

Great interview mam❤❤❤

[@Chitravittal]

I am curious waiting for the next episode to watching . Most toughest role - parenting

[@Phoenix-od2bp]

I am not a psychologist but a parent and feel the doctor has some regressive ideas about parenting. I would rather follow a Dr Gabor Mate than heed to Dr Philip’s approach to parenting. Psychiatrist have been wrong in the past, time will tell how much of what is trusted now is proven wrong in the future.

[@reshmap3982]

Thank you so much for this interview❤

[@binutom3023]

Enjoying every bit of the conversation which is absolutely insightful 🎉

[@aryalekshmis7413]

Most needed...❤

[@shahanasmusthafa.p.p2779]

Please upload next... Eagerly waiting 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@ShirlyJoseph]

Thankyou Dhanya for this awesome session

[@iamwithdhanyavarma]

Do share the video..Thanks

[@dasputhucode]

This interview is gem....👏

[@Vishnuprasadvallath]

thank you for this, I recently got diagnosed with Adult ADHD! thank you so much!!!

[@gauthamkrishna8919]

Just mark his ultimate words ..The way we say mental health issues as mental health problem is very wrong because after all mind is in the brain and all nerve cells work together as an organ.Hence it is an organ malfunction.So this is a physical issue itself. Eg ..what if we didnt have eyes and ears ..but we have skin so everything that touch us turns into a feeling..but unfortunately we have the 2 grt organs eye and the ear which makes it physical.So if we had eyes and ears inside our brain then we could see the mind and hence become physical.The problem is we cant see the mind.Thats why we call it mental disorders but actually the mental disorders are nothing but as common as the physical disorder.

[@shilpamary9724]

I disagree with his opinion about counseling and therapy that people undergoing depression look upto. According to him those who have depression should see a psychiatrist and start medicication. If you have noticed, majority of the suicide victims or those who have attempted suicide were under medication for depression

[@jisnapaul9045]

What he is trying to communicate is if counselling doesn't work for a person, they must take antidepressants under the supervision along with therapies.

[@ligiscaria1434]

This topic helps a lot of people

[@തത്തമ്മ]

Hello dr നിങ്ങൾ നിങ്ങളുടെ മരുന്ന് Promote ചെയ്യുന്നു. ജീവിതകാലം മുഴുവൻ മരുന്നു കഴിച്ച് ജീവിക്കാൻ സാധിക്കുമോ . പലപ്പോഴും ഒരു Dr നേക്കാളും നല്ല ഒരു therapist നെ കണ്ടാൽ അവർ പല Session ലൂടെ മനസ്സ് തുറന്നു തരും .അത് ഒരു dr ന് സാധിക്കുമോ, മറ്റുള്ളവർ മെനക്കെട്ട് കണ്ടുപിടിക്കുന്നതിന് അവസാനം dr Suന്നary പറയും. ചെറിയ anxiety issues ന് പ്രഗൽഭനായ ഒരു therapist ന് കാണുന്നത് തെറ്റല്ല.👍👍👍

[@parvathi2525]

Therapy cannot change brain chemistry. If you need medication, you need it. Its your will if you want otherwise. He is not completely disregarding therapy here.

[@mithamurali9945]

Intelligent human

[@reshmap3982]

I think a fine psychologist should know when and who to refer to a psychiatrist because every person with some kind of mental issue will first visit a psychologist in most cases

[@nthamonuse4409]

Hey, i am a big fan of this show, so please bring mammootty/mohanlal/Fahd fasil/nivinpoly/dq/dhileesh pothan/sushin shyam/nazriya/jagthees etc. ..

[@arunas855]

ധന്യ ചോദിച്ച last ചോദ്യം അതായിരുന്നു എന്റെ doubt. Waiting

[@shyamaretnakumar5868]

Good one!

[@Bobo_lazy]

Could you please provide English subtitles for these series of videos. I would like to recommend this for audience not following Malayalam.

[@leonvincent10]

It's available now, please check 🤗

[@gligyjames9217]

Waiting for the next episode

[@sherinevivek460]

Eagerly waiting for the next episode

[@user-od4pm8gm7w]

Nice talk

[@rajivnair8205]

I have also the same problm.following google doctor..😢😢

[@sajinig6555]

Waiting for parenting...

[@4mwneha]

What about treatment resistant anxiety and depression?

[@susan_0007]

11:30

[@Azmin-cp3cq]

Enikum medicine kazhicchapalaan poornamaai dprssion maariyath...alhamdulillah

[@sreethukalappara73]

❤️❤️

[@alkasekhar3392]

👏👏

[@user-di7us1ue4y]

If autism and adhd have medicine which cures it, can you please say about it.

[@Vanajaschannel]

Good question.

[@Lovela11]

😂 for ADHD they give few medicines, but for ASD nothing. Melatonin for sleep deprivation In the UK, paediatric consultant give no medicines. There were few trial medicines- which is not available too. Dr Philip is highly experienced and knows the nitty gritty of brain cells - and so on. But he is arrogant, looks at common man as clueless, all the more through out the interview, he expresses his frustration and anger towards few professionals, atleast few keralites and their attitudes(I live in UK, what i understand is in comparison with people from others countries, we are no bad!). He should understand that Google and KZbin acts as a solace for parents and people who suffer from various neuronal disorders. I would think of taking my child to Dr Philip, but I wouldn't dare to take his advice - "God has chosen you to take care of a child with ASD"! I will definitely google any medicine a dr prescribe, because, Google definitely has a good database and research which would guide you through and throw light on "several EXPERIENCED DR.'s like this how they think and treat similar conditions". Where qualified medical professionals fail to diagnose, looking at symptoms, AI makes accurate diagnosis. Human memory and database is tiny, in comparison with the current AI algorithms, its database and database. Keeping in mind Mary Shelley's creation, I would say, I would not believe what one or two psychologists diagnose and prescribe. Yes, it's how I can think living this knowledge based society. Wisdom is indeed knowledge and experience, however technology made these wisdom redundant! I love Dr's brain - interpreting Mahabharata and applying into his subjects. I love his brain - for his eloquence, memory, communication and all the more choosing Psychiatry as his specialisation, during 70's. I love dr for citing therapy cures for ASD & ADHD and the business thriving across the globe to exploit these HELPLESS section in our society, who run from post to pillar. Most parents doesn't realise that ASD improvements they notice in children could JUST be NATURAL progression, and nothing from therapies.

[@rajivnair8205]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@devikaammu389]

❤

[@vinayanm1177]

😂ഏതാ ഈ ഭാരതീയ ഭിഷഗ്വരൻ

[@ushapp2261]

Dhanya how can I get an appointment of the doctor?

[@ushajyothi3226]

Madam, I need doctor's consultation. How can take an appointment? Is there a consultation at home?

[@Vishnu97here]

🙌🏻

[@sumimohamed9710]

This person is intelligent and knowledgeable, but he is insincere and manipulative. You cannot trust him.

[@jaiku99]

That is a serious charge. Do you have any experience or is it just an opinion ?

[@parvathi2525]

Yes, I thought it too... Lacks a bit of ethics. Most of these celebrity psychiatrists too... But ok. They can spread awareness. Go to sincere psychiatrists.

[@parvathi2525]

​@@jaiku99just a gut feeling and bits of judgement from his statements and attitude. May or May not be true.

[@munawarshah5680]

I wouldnt trust this man even to water my plants. Lost all my respect for him. Even though autism cant be treated, their (person and their family) quality of life can be improved with the help of some services, which are still nonexistent in kerala. 😢

[@user-bq7hm9iu6c]

*no one can replace dhanya's interview💯🔥*

[@user-rl6ku6bv5i]

❤