Part 3: (An honest explanation of my anger) Why "Catholic" Traditionalist men are sh!tty

Send no hate but the channel is @History_Professor
I checked his Ph.D was in Italian and Romance Philology.
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[@OrdinaryCatholic1]

I checked my father-in-law's Ph.D was in Italian and Romance Philology.

[@snakyjake9]

"God forbid that women have a credit score" Okay but real talk, usury is a massive problem in today's world, and we would all be better off, men and women alike, if we didn't rely on a credit score which measures how great we are at being taken advantage of by usurious lending practices.

[@JohnnyCoxWeazelNews]

1 Timothy 2,11-15 - A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man, she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But womenwill be saved through childbearing-if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.

[@OrdinaryCatholic1]

@@JohnnyCoxWeazelNews your the fifth person to repeat this, that's all you Trads ever do. Traditional men (who aren't even Catholic) are useless to society have no value, and hide by perverting the Bible.

[@OrdinaryCatholic1]

@@JohnnyCoxWeazelNews 1 Timothy 2 is referencing the time in Church, when only the bishop, priests, or deacon preaches the Gospel.....

[@anuruddhajayawickrama4340]

​@@OrdinaryCatholic1 the idea that Holy Mother Church should get with the times is a heresy in and of itself.

[@OrdinaryCatholic1]

@@anuruddhajayawickrama4340 Catholicism isn't about historical cosplaying. We're dealing in the reality we're in. We're to be faithful Catholics that can function in this messy world. There have been 21 councils in Church history specifically "the get with the times".

[@anuruddhajayawickrama4340]

​@@OrdinaryCatholic1engaging in spiritual transgenderism is not how to function in this messy world.

[@keymaker2112]

I disagree with your particular topical claims, but I agree with your general characterization of Trads online. Please have patience with me. I don't understand the connection you're making between wanting to disenfranchise a particular demographic and equating that with hatred of that demographic. The former is a strictly social and political consideration, resulting from the sex differences in our race, and has nothing whatsoever to do with any particular detestation of that group. I also don't think 18 year olds should retain the franchise, does that mean I hate 18 year olds? Furthermore, on the topic of education, I don't think women should retain the franchise, nor does my wife, but we're intensely interested in ensuring our three daughters are well educated. Very well educated. I just don't think that such an education necessarily involves pursuing secular credentialism. It may, depending on what God call's my daughters to do, but the two are becoming increasingly dissimilar as time goes on (a genuine education and their corresponding credentials that is), and I don't want to conflate the two. To anyone who would suggest that my daughters should not receive good educations I would ask: If my daughters were not well educated, how could they serve God and their potential husbands and children, not to mention their fellow Man, to the best of their ability? How could they learn to love God and His creation to the fullest extent? Lastly, how could they educate their children if they were not themselves educated? God gave a Rational Mind to all of Mankind, including Women, and He did so for a reason. But I don't think that's the same thing as insisting on the enfranchisement of women. I'm sorry for some of the aggressive responses you've received, they have not been very charitable and it appears you're just being honest about how you think/feel about the issue, so I commend your courage to continue to put your thoughts out there in light of such confrontation. To call you a Jezebel or backdoor a, "Shut up!" by quoting scripture seems rather nasty. God bless.

[@donnav6219]

Most Catholics are loving and giving people. Just because you encounter one who is not the norm, don't lump us all in the same mindset. Everyone I know is Catholic and none of the men are like that. None of the women would stay with their men if they were like what you describe.

[@acommentator4452]

everyone you know is catholic !!??? that sounds scarily sectarian. you need to get out more.

[@gabepettinicchio7454]

Ordinary Catholic ... Just out of simple curiosity, why did you❤the above comment? Donna, what part of the country do you live? God Bless you both!

[@donnav6219]

@@gabepettinicchio7454 I am from the northeast. I am Italian the majority of my friends are Catholic. The men are nothing like what this woman is accusing them to be. We are in general the first to show up if someone is in need and will generously donate to a cause. I have seen the men are very protective of their family and daughters. I see it in friends husband and my Dad sure was.She seems to have an axe to grind and her tone shows disdain. I have been around Catholics all my life, family and friends and a large Catholic Church, she uses woke language throughout. She would be the type to hate a traditional group of folks. IMO

[@donnav6219]

@@acommentator4452 Really, we owned a a business and saw everyone in our town and the surrounding towns. Trust me we saw all kinds of people. We lived in a town that was actually predominately german. But come from a large Italian family, majority of friends are Italian and belonged to a large Catholic church. So this woman who is whining meets up with one bad apple and thinks she has the right to dump on us. She uses woke language, of course she would hate a tradition group of people.

[@gabepettinicchio7454]

@@donnav6219 Thank you, Donna. I am lifelong Catholic, myself. I live near Disneyland, but have spent many a summer and all the time possible with the bulk of my family in RI. I love the place. For me, it's interesting how different parts of the country differ regarding their way of life, their faith & the Church itself. Back in the 70s, 80s & 90s the RI church we attended was packed at any Mass on Sunday. It was beautiful to see the love and joy at that church. After Mass dozens & dozens of people including most of my aunts, uncles & cousins, were there and several of us enjoyed more time together. During the last several years, the church has emptied, with maybe 20 parishioners at Mass. All the aunts & uncles are gone now, and not one of my cousins, or their children attend Mass. Some, attend on holidays, but most never. I found that this has changed the fabric of that local culture. Falling away, has had a huge effect on my family. More than a few are living in sin, and their parents do nothing about it. It hurts. I asked one of my closest cousins why her family no longer goes to church. I was stunned when she said, "Because we don't like the priest." I asked why and was told that he snapped at someone when taking a wedding picture. HUH? By the way, he was an excellent priest who said things as they are. He passed only a year or 2 ago. That town in RI had 3 Catholic Churches, the largest was closed down due to lack of attendance. The one I'm speaking about was the town's "Italian" Church and directly across a narrow street was the "French" Catholic Church. They are less than 100' from each other. I asked my cousin, why they didn't cross the street & go there. The answer was, "Oh, I dunno." I'm going too long ... but I started to realize that the more recent generations went to Mass, not for Christ, but for their weekly "social gathering." Things have changed in the world. Removing God, removes sanity, love & the special bonds we had with the people in our lives.

[@nisibonum7634]

i mean its one guy with 132 subscribers. I wouldn't take it as some epidemic. aside from a coupe British monarchists who are pro British crown but never expressed anything against women rights, I have never met a single catholic man in my life with those stances.

[@OrdinaryCatholic1]

@@nisibonum7634 neither have I, but they occupy a large space online.

[@christiandanielcastillomed206]

What is the importance of "women right" for a Catholic? NOTHING

[@nisibonum7634]

@@christiandanielcastillomed206 No. - “In creating [humans] ‘male and female,’ God gives man and woman an equal personal dignity.” (Catechism of the Catholic Church, no. 2334) - The Bishops' Program of Social Reconstruction, 1919 “women who are engaged at the same tasks of men should receive equal pay for equal amounts and qualities of work.”

[@nisibonum7634]

@@OrdinaryCatholic1 it's the nature of the internet that the extremes are easier to find, they certainly sound extreme

[@jsharp9735]

Jezebel spirit. RCC had problems when it was trad, but now its not even Christian.

[@OrdinaryCatholic1]

I'm saying I love the Catholic Church. Definitely not a jezebel.

[@jsharp9735]

@@OrdinaryCatholic1 RCC already has problems before Vatican 1,2 and the Jesuit take over. Your problems with trads only show's why the church has conformed to the world even more. You're a jezebel and more....

[@ARM1NIUS]

Your negative obsession with “traditional Catholics” seems rather unhealthy.

[@OrdinaryCatholic1]

@@ARM1NIUS well yeah, if traditional Catholics repeat the lies if the devil. It's not even Catholicism, it's a weird cult, garbage for sad men to be radicalized on. If you like the TLM, go where your Diocese offers it

[@jsharp9735]

She is either possessed or oppressed by demons on top of her doctrinal heresies.

[@OrdinaryCatholic1]

@@navarrenavarre but there's no such thing as "traditional", that's the thing. You may like the extraordinary form of Mass which is fine. Attending the TLM doesn't make you Trad. I'm clearing referencing over and over again "Trads" disparaging the Catholic Church for clickbait and distorting the teachings of the Church. It's very much a cult. Listen to Anthony over at Victory of Dragon and his experiences or Kevingen of Alexandria.

[@OrdinaryCatholic1]

@@navarrenavarre I just had a heretical Trad asking if I had permission from my husband to make these videos. I'm not ill informed, at all.

[@catholicesquire]

Does your husband give you permission to make these videos? I would like to see him get on these videos and let us know why thinks this is a good idea.

[@OrdinaryCatholic1]

@@catholicesquire @unchartedcatholicman wants the same thing... He's in my "shorts" while we were pruning the Mary Garden. I'm defending him and his father, as they are wonderful Catholic men. kzbin.infoiEy1Q88XvNY?si=zngJlof8rULNiVrd

[@paulmurray3671]

God bless you and your channel! I love the contemporary Catholic Church!