Part 4 of 4, How to install a chassis/frame brace, without removing your body.

[@FastMonty]

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[@89gtsmoke]

Your attention to detail is phenomenal! I get you may not think so but "from the outside looking in" - its fantastic! Nice job sir.

[@FastMonty]

Thanks! Much appreciated!

[@tuszkanczik]

Congratulations. Wow, that’s a really generous giveaway, especially in these times.

[@FastMonty]

What giveaway?

[@jackclayton7419]

Love your videos. Thanks for sharing and teaching. I'm building a 72' GTO 462ci..

[@FastMonty]

Awesome! And, you're welcome... thanks for the comment!

[@MACTETI]

Thanks Monty! Keep up the great work.

[@FastMonty]

Glad that one is over... ha, ha... thanks!

[@johnkennedy8452]

Great job Mike let’s get that Goat road ready to see the difference in handling ✌️

[@FastMonty]

Thanks John! I agree! ha, ha...

[@towniepats4409]

Hi Mike thanks for another great video, very impressive.

[@FastMonty]

Thanks! Much appreciated!

[@billmiller5075]

Great job Mike, lots of useful information

[@FastMonty]

Thanks Bill!

[@kandg8277]

Why didn't smooth out your welds on your boxed in frame before installing this

[@FastMonty]

Cuz it's not necessary? It would look super duper clean, but would also take another 5 hours of work to do it right. Since this is more for performance, and no one can see it from the outside, I didn't do it. Have fun!

[@danielmathys289]

Man..thats a great accomplishment, awesome

[@FastMonty]

Thanks Daniel! Yeah, a ton o work that was. Thanks again!

[@johnmilner7603]

Good job Mike.

[@FastMonty]

Thanks John! Crazy amount of work. But, love the result.

[@Mr572u]

I would have put body mount rubber between the body and the new frame stiffener.

[@FastMonty]

Most people actually change out the existing rubber mounts to Delrin. Mine are relatively new, so didn't change em. Thanks.

[@ssmith2180]

In your opinion, would side exit exhaust work with the frame brace, or not feasible? Thanks Mike

[@FastMonty]

You know me... anything is possible. Ha, ha... but, if you're referring to side exhaust that exits in front of the rear wheel, it'll depend on your ground clearance. The additional structural tubing will make it a challenge. Let us know if you figure it out. Thanks for the comment!

[@jeffreyurbain9604]

It would have been cool to have done a before and after weight of the car. Any idea how many pounds were added?

[@FastMonty]

Yep, I weighed it... check out the 4:20 mark. :)

[@jeffreyurbain9604]

Sorry. Don’t know how I missed that.

[@FastMonty]

@@jeffreyurbain9604 HA! No worries, you might have yawned during my talking... ha, ha... thanks for the comment!

[@selkirk27]

Hey there Mike. Love the videos and your car. Got a couple questions if you want give me your thoughts. I have a 70 convertible lamans, as you know the frame is boxed. I do have flex esp when its jacked or raised on a lift. Do they make this for my car? Also I see you bolted the trans mount support to the side bar and up into the floor pan. Doesnt that defeat the isolation between body and frame and cause resonation into the floor pan ? You also mentions stiffening the rear frame ,possible solution is UMI makes a brace that connected the rear shock mounting areas,bolts in across? Also they make a front frame support to go across where the front sway bar mounts? Whats your thoughts on using these? Also,lol, you couldnt still use you first aftermarket transmission cross member,that thing looked tough. Thanks for your time and advice. Tom

[@FastMonty]

Thanks Thomas... congrats on already having a boxed frame. :) I'm a fan of adding support, and I've seen the rear UMI system, which I might just get. Havent' seen the front one yet. (I'm pretty sure my same kit would work for your car, but not 100% sure) No, you can't use another brace without severe mods. Bolting to the body just increases stiffness. I'm not concerned with the current rubber isolators, because they're more than 2 feet away from the bolted area. (Steel has a ton of flex in it, even from point to point 2 feet away) I'll have to look into the UMI front brace. Thanks for the comment, and questions.

[@Aceman597]

70 gto front and rear umi braces . Have flex on 2 post lift. I heard it's normal. Gto nose gap gets larger then goes back when lowered. Looking to do the body on car frame boxing. The front and rear umi braces help driving and cornering.

[@b2ja03]

Did you do your whole frame in por15? How is it holding up?

[@FastMonty]

Yes sir! Holding up great!

[@b2ja03]

@@FastMonty good to know. Thanks for the response. I am doing a “frame on” restoration and the underbody is my next project once it warms up where I’m at. Just trying to get ideas on what to use your videos are a great help!

[@FastMonty]

Awesome! Good luck! @@b2ja03

[@juanlanda2441]

Now just worry about the 50 year old body to frame bolts . They usually break upon removal . I would hate to see the frame going one way and the body going the other.

[@FastMonty]

Good point, mine are only 10 years old. ha, ha... thanks!

[@ZEOPHYTE72]

Hi MIke, I was looking for you to possibly re-check your driveline angles when you got the tranny cross-members in place. I’m to the point of checking that on my TREMEC T-56 MAGNUM (from SilverSport Transmission) going into my ‘72 Trans Am and was wondering what angle you arrived at on your initial install?

[@FastMonty]

Great question. When infirst put my TKO in, the angle was terrible. (I should have paid more attention during the tunnel cutting phase.) The TKX allowed me to push it up into the tunnel another 1/2 inch, which felt like a mile. So, it's a lot better , but far from perfect purely because my rear is super low. Sorry, not much help there. Let us know how the T/A turns out.

[@yafois988]

The was about grueling yes, your resolve here is impressive! Just know this is well appreciated all the things" you had to prepare, deal with, your love for Pontiac is top drawer! Have a question some after market suspension pieces. There are the heim-joint type swivel pieces (CAT5) for the leaf bushing replacement parts. What is your take on those? I like the idea of their dynamic control affect and mechanical stress relief they offer, yet not seen much about them from consumers reporting back .

[@FastMonty]

Thanks! Yeah, heim joints are the way to go. It's exactly what I'm using for my rear suspension. I'll have to do a video summary of that, because lot's of people have been asking. When you're bored, check out Global West Suspension... thanks again!

[@stephenhodge6441]

Do you paint the inside of the plate that boxes in the frame?

[@FastMonty]

I did not... but, at least those rails are zinc coated. so, that'll help. Thanks for the comment!

[@CalicoRiot]

The crossover/trans braces and mounting brackets look beefy! Are those made with 1/8th" or 1/4"? It really looks like a quality kit. 👌

[@FastMonty]

Thanks Brother... yeah, I think they're 3/16"

[@jerrysylvester292]

Been watching all your videos. Love it. @ questions on this kit. 1st have you noticed any improvement in how the car responds? 2nd. after install how do you paint or powder coat where its boxed in or am I over thinking it? LOL

[@FastMonty]

Thanks Jerry! I haven't tested it hard yet, but certainly feels well planted. I thought i covered the weld painting... I used POR 15 with a brush. Thanks for the comment!

[@BuickPerformanceSupportCha1605]

Is that a legend 5 speed?

[@FastMonty]

Almost. It's a TREMEC TKX

[@BuickPerformanceSupportCha1605]

@@FastMonty Awesome car, great channel !!!

[@FastMonty]

@@BuickPerformanceSupportCha1605 Thanks!

[@Whosurdaddy71]

Newbies don’t use weld through primer between bare plates you can’t paint.

[@FastMonty]

Yup! I wanted the back sides covered. I did my best to spray the POR15 prep behind there too, which leaves a nice Zinc Oxide coating, where we can't paint. Thanks!

[@Whosurdaddy71]

Zink Oxide? The same stuff they tell you not to weld because it’s toxic fumes when welded on? Plus after it’s welded there’s no protection.

[@FastMonty]

Sorry, Zinc Phosphate... after welding. Thanks. @@Whosurdaddy71