Part Two of Philip Deslippe on the History of Yogi Bhajan and 3HO

[@MultiJaws123]

Thank you so much , I am working my way through all this information I and I was going to give up my one class for seniors but now I do a little bit of hatha a yoganidra ibut do sing the long time sun and a few postures that I hope don't come from him , you are the voice of reason to me thank you again Pat

[@jenfnp]

The speakers articles are very well written and scholarly.

[@gursantsingh4167]

To Philip Deslippe : I want to point out inaccuracies in some of your statements made about the Yogi Bhajan GRD boiler telemarketing rooms. In your recent interviews, you say there was office supplies, toner and typewriter ribbons, sold to schools and non-profits,the checks were cashed but no office supplies were sent out by GRD. This is only true for Harijwan junior's(the toner bandit's) business which was a separate entity from GRD although sanctioned by Yogi Bhajan. I worked for both businesses over many years and am in a position to relay the facts about what really happened. GRD which was run by the other Hari Jiwan, (Chief of Protocol for YB) and MSS Baba Singh, sold the office supplies at highly inflated prices but they did in fact send out the product to the schools and non-profits. And again, both the Toner Bandit's boiler room and GRD's were sanctioned by YB but the toner bandit, Harijiwan, was the only one who was indicted criminally on fraud and tax evasion. This Harijiwan(Toner Bandit) went to federal prison for 18 months. When I worked at GRD, we did misrepresent who we were, implying through various techniques that we were their normal supplier and that we had their normal order of toner for their copy machine ready to send out. There was certainly fraudulent misrepresentations made at GRD but the product was sent out. We also engaged in bribing office managers by sending out gifts to their residences after large orders were paid. I will also attest to witnessing MSS Baba Singh, one of the owners / directors at GRD, cashing a huge stack of checks in a back room at a check cashing business in Santa Monica California in the late 1980's. The Chief of protocol, Hari Jiwan Singh was charged in a field of Schemes in June 1997, the Federal Trade Commission filed charges against Hari Jiwan. (Taken from an FTC press release) Hari Jiwan Singh Khalsa, also known as Stephen Jon Oxenhandler, a/k/a Bob Thomas; as part of "Project Field of Schemes." This law enforcement effort comprised of approximately 61 law-enforcement actions. In its complaint detailing the charges, the FTC alleged that the defendants routinely misrepresented the risk, value, appreciation and liquidity of the gemstones they sold and falsely claimed that consumers would realize tremendous profits. In addition, the defendants falsely pledged that they could and would easily liquidate consumers' gemstone portfolios after an 18-month holding period. In fact, according to the FTC, the defendants typically ceased all contact with consumers and refused to liquidate their gemstones after the 18-month period. Shortly after the complaint was filed, the court issued a temporary restraining order, froze the defendants' assets and appointed a temporary receiver over the corporate defendants. Philip, I think it it is important to tell the facts and the fact is that Yogi Bhajan's GRD did send out the office supplies although they were fraudulently misrepresenting themselves and were at highly inflated prices.

[@gueverdura6717]

The question from the Icelander was wild. At first she says that the yoga obviously works and has benefits for untold numbers of people, then she wonders how anyone could continue to do it... Wild.

[@KundaliniBrat]

First off I would like to say it is important that we hold compassion for everyone involved. The victim and the assaulter are co creators in the events as are we as the bystanders. According to the the powerful law of attraction we do have the power to bend the universe to our will as we create the universe in concert with it. Kundalini and the chakra systems do lead to higher spiritual awakenings and they can be achieved in other ways like drugs but with less force of control. I always understood that the generations that came before mine were not only not as enlightened in their understanding of humanity but that as their evolution I was supposed to be understanding enough to forgive them. No matter how in charge someone may seem on the outside we can glean anyone’s experience on the inside and comparison to what other men of yogi Bhajan’s generation were doing and getting away with at the very least he was trying to create people who were his evolution. Many times in the past we have seen people who know better and teach better but they Are just the bridge to the next generation being better. And we will see in the future more of the same as humanity evolves. That’s the complex nature of the human condition and why we are not still sitting in caves and next to bonfires in the midst of our domestication. We need to tune into the grace that the teacher was trying to instill and we need to see that most of the best things in our modern world are the combined best of several things all brought together. So if yogi bhajan new how to listen to the people and pull them together , we need to be grateful in compassion that despite his personality flaws and defects that he took the tone and time to pull them together for his teacher/students. He was trying to help regular people get ready for the irregular times we have ahead of us with the shifting into the Aquarian age. And while everyone may not want to make the shift with the kundalini technology everyone should have access to the coping techniques the teachings bring forth . I’m not trying to minimize anything anyone has gone through I’m just trying to find the best feeling thoughts and maximize the dharma of being action oriented towards harvesting the practice for its best parts. If yogi Bhajan’s life as a man leaves a bad taste in your mouth then only focus on the buffet of teachings he left behind. And as with any buffet in the universe take the pieces that work for you and discard the things that don’t. Then we can move forward and tune into the golden chain of true intention of what I believe kundalini yoga is all about. Quantumfication. The multiplication of our invisible energy and subtle bodies while in physical we are separate but in non physical we return from this place and merge back into one soul continuously for all infinity.

[@SusanHopkinson]

Yogi Bhajan‘s teachings are mostly fraudulent and a mishmash scratching the surface of several disparate teachings. Your comments that previous generations to yours are less enlightened are stunningly arrogant. I am a child of the ‘60s and saw immediately what a fraud he was - those who blindly followed (and still argue for) YB’s teachings somehow weren’t enlightened enough to see through his fakery and criminality. Which category do you belong to 🤔

[@SusanHopkinson]

The fact that you still defend YB and 3HO shows the power of cults, which YB understood very well to achieve his purposes.

[@KundaliniBrat]

I’m sorry to say that no one is going to change my experiences with kundalini yoga. Those experiences I have had are real and yoga Bhajan was the vessel that through time and space brought them to me. None of the other practices you speak of created those opportunities for me. Yogi Bhajan did. Whether he raked in large amounts of money for them or not is of no consequence to me I would gladly part with the majority of my own fortune to have my dying mother experience the peace she felt when doing kundalini exercises with me or the connection to her previously severed spiritual connection that she had as singing the longtime sun after listening to the gong. As far as I’m concerned you naysayers are the symptom of a system who’s main goal is to tear everything that makes people feel good apart. I feel for you in being the puppets of darker energy than you claim yogi Bhajan could be. The man is dead and I don’t know you. I’m not putting my perspective out there because I need you to agree with it. Or disagree with it. My experiences are all that I need at the end of the day. And at the beginning of the day. And throughout the day. I’ll meditate and think grateful thoughts for the mortal being that brought kundalini yoga to the ungrateful westerners that have turned on him in their last act of disgrace. And for all of you sad sad souls with no ability to harvest the lessons that could be learned regardless of what did or did not happen I’ll pray that your skeptical karma doesn’t keep you tied to the cycles or reincarnation that have had your obviously weakened trapped souls floundering for aeons. Sat Nam SimRan

[@nemeta3846]

kundalini brat compassion for criminals is to recognize and collaborate to their crimes! no compassion, stop new age , it's the reverse coin of darkness, the light face, false luciferian light! most of them are luciferian masons, rosicrucians etc all what you are saying is pure new age , cocreators and so on; it was the fashion, some years ago to talk like that... a cat is a cat! a criminal is a criminal! if you want to collaborate with him in his crimes, NOT ME! SO DON'T INVOLVE EVERYBODY IN YOUR SHIT! you said " we "hold compassion, "we "this we that... TALK FOR YOU! I am not thinking like you! i think bhajan is a demonic archontic agent ! i don't obliged you to think as me! i am thinking that people who collaborate with such criminals will pay as him, damned in omega hell, luciferian new- age versus satanists , i don't force you to believe !

[@jagdeesh_singh]

​@@KundaliniBratsat naam!

[@crystalslotnick2461]

Just want to share that I have a book , The Yoga Toolbox by Jan Ahlund & this work is very much like KY. I noticed it because I am a former KY teacher but not Sikh This work comes from the Kriya Yoga based in Canada

[@collyernicholasjohn]

Yogi Bhajan learned yoga from Swami Dhirendra Bramchari, who had a studio in Ashok Rd New Delhi and was famous in India for Sukshma Vyayam taught in many schools. Swami was known as “Indian Rasputin”: Prime Minister Indira Ghandi was his student, and this political access helped the Swami in his business ventures in aviation and arms manufacture. Swami had a regular spot (‘Yogabhyas’; now held by Baba Ram Dev) on state TV. Old recording here kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZqchJmBmd-AmLs Swami went to USSR and trained Soviet cosmonauts in yoga. Swami taught Swiss yoga teacher Reinhard Gammenthaler. Baba Virsa Singh was a Sikh spiritual leader but did not teach yoga.

[@crystalslotnick2461]

Swami dhirendra bramchari

[@nemeta3846]

Nick Collyer thanks for those informations! it has been said that bhajan was indira gandhi's teacher and friend too; is that true? and tell me what you think about that if you want: a " yogi" was teaching to a" woman" , she still murdered so many people, wanting to detroy Sikhs, adding martyrs to there long time martyrdom, how is that possible: practice yoga and kill a people, be a dictature!? how a yogi can accept to learn from such a demon???! only for money , sex and power?!! so even with yogis, there is only interest! ?????????????

[@collyernicholasjohn]

@@nemeta3846 I don’t know Swami Bhajan knew Indira Ghangi. I think he gilded the lily about a lot of relationships he supposedly had. Sorry he was not a good yogi 😢

[@nemeta3846]

@@collyernicholasjohn thanks for your answer! i used to practice KY , followed him, because 3HO always put him everywhere, making us believe that he si Guru Ramdas incarnated! etc but the day i heard that he sodomised , raped his secretary, i tried to search : everybody said no, it's a false information, to destroy the " master", etc it's when i started searching on internet, long time after, that i discovered gursant singh 's network! now i am desgusted of 3HO and bhajan that i consider as a "demon", an agent of indira gandhi, to kill Sikhy , as she wanted to destroy all the Sikhs people, martyrised them until 2 Sikhs killed her; gursant singh showed how nazis are the RSS, hindouist party, in india; yogi bh was not a yogi, first, he never pratice! he is a tricker! as my own teacher in france! karta " singh" ( " amrit nam sarovar," his school in france ) did the same things, raping students , etc and i saw many as them, in the european festivals! they just wanted money , sex and power, taking the energies of the students! really! one day, we were only 5 with "karta" "singh" and he asked us a very hard asana; his eyes closed! more than half an hour, my knees could't do no more, so i awoke him" karta, karta"! he came back and said " wahoo, you made me go so deep in samadhi, as long time i never went ,since my first one, you had worked well! " so i understood that he robbed our energy : we were exhausted! well, as you had some interesting informations about swami dhirendra bramachari, indira's teacher, i was thinking that you knew about bhajan who teached her too! i saw the picture! may be you can find it ! it's interesting to see the periods for each teacher it is said that bhajan was sent by the government( so by indira!?) in canada; why? to teach yoga! i think it was a pretext to spie and introduce new age among hippies, deeper, to stop contestation about wars( vietnam etc) to quiet people and after having spread drugs among youth, spread new age to prepare the NWO.... he had an agenda! because now, there are a lot of 3HO teachers in russia, china everywhere! "karta" singh" used to go to russia; everywhere in europe and in south america too, as in peru, with 2 " friends" from my studies, emilio and romullo, homosexuals who sell ayahuasca and kundalini yoga( "huamanwasi") , with a lot of vaudoo and indian deities, mixing japji ans Sikhi.... new age always and lies!!

[@nemeta3846]

@@collyernicholasjohn you can find videos from gursant singh: " yogi bhajan and indira gandhi plot to eliminate Sant Jarnail Singhji; never forget 1984 " ; and another one:plot to assassinate Sant Brindranwale ji by indira gandhi and yogi bhajan descovered"; i have them but translated in french! have a look, we can see the picture

[@smirkingm2485]

Before the internet it was not easy to find out information about traditional Sikhism and specifically how Yogi Bhajan's teachings were related to it (or not). The few Sikhs I met over the years, usually in academia, were reluctant to say anything negative about him but weren't exactly enthusiastic.

[@nemeta3846]

smirking M true! when somebody told me _ long time ago_ that his own secretary had been raped, i asked to many people in 3HO, of course they all said that it is untrue, that it is to try to break a master etc a real shame to collaborate to his crimes! people forget too quick that raping is crime, and all what he did, trafics, etc really desgusting! i had no computer but the day i had one, nothing about that; only when i found gursant singhji network, i realized how deep the problem was; i stopped to learn and teach

[@sigmawmn]

Thank-you, looking forward to diving more into this work - i did try YB Kundalini for a little while and it did feel wrong. I've also noticed it seems to really make women dry up and age quickly - possibly exacerbating Vata imbalance. I've found that the wearing white was an appropriation from Ayurvedic concepts, would love to know if that similarity has come up or been confirmed.

[@corinnemanintveld2669]

I did practice kundalini yoga 40 years ago. In the beginning it helped me a lot, gave me more energy etc. I stopped after a few years, because it felt it was not the right thing for my mind and body. I always felt kind of “quilty” that I stopped this so called healthy practice. The whole guru thing did not feel right to me, I could never really explain why…..It is a very sad thing that these “fake” gurus take so many people for a ride. Who is at fault here, you might ask. The guru or the followers or both?

[@uzuyoga]

Hi, thanks for this video. Could you please kindly write down the names of the possible origins of Bhajan's technique, both of the technique and the 2 masters mentioned around min: 00:02:15? Many thanks!

[@collyernicholasjohn]

Yogi Bhajan learned yoga from Swami Dhirendra Bramchari, who had a studio in Ashok Rd New Delhi and was famous in India for Sukshma Vyayam taught in many schools. Swami was known as “Indian Rasputin”: Prime Minister Indira Ghandi was his student, and this political access helped the Swami in his business ventures in aviation and arms manufacture. Swami had a regular spot (‘Yogabhyas’; now held by Baba Ram Dev) on state TV. Old recording here kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZqchJmBmd-AmLs Swami went to USSR and trained Soviet cosmonauts in yoga. Swami taught Swiss yoga teacher Reinhard Gammenthaler. Baba Virsa Singh was a Sikh spiritual leader but did not teach yoga.

[@lordgawain]

I feel that the kundalini yoga can survive. Practice yoga postures for physical part Practice Sikhi teaching from SGGS ji for spiritual part

[@nemeta3846]

lord gawain: as an ex student for 30 years and teacher, i stopped all! i don't want to collaborate to those devil people! i learnt not long time ago that opening the chakras is not good at all, opening the gates to archontic entities; those chakras helped them to pin us to the matrix, without possibility to escape and go in other chosen dimensions; so i was thinking to just give postures, in reality all the body must move! bhajan said that: if it was possible to move the nose, i 'll give you exercices to move it "; so it's easy to create postures! i did it! they used to say in 3HO " you must not change nothing in the kriyas" : i changed always the places of exercices and no problem! then stop the mantras, only saying those of the SIRI GURU GRANTH SAHIBJI; the NAAM only ; and it's exactly what Siri Granth Sahibji said or the gurus; practice exercices and the Naam! ( but not hindouit! wahe guru is the one to jap) ; gymnastic but keeping up a little more time each exercice! stop all bhajna's shits

[@moryanna2008]

Aditi Puri was a student of Swami Dev Murti

[@Eichenaxt]

Who is Aditi Puri? Where does she live? Do you have a reference?

[@juliaainley2889]

I KNEW GURU HANS SINGH HE HELPED BUULD CHANNEL TUNNEL ISPIKE TO HIM SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE HE DIED HETHOUGHT YOGI BHAJAN HAD BEEN POSSESED AFTER A HEART OP HE DID NOT KNOW AT THE TIME YOGI BHAJAN WAS ALWAYS UP TO NI GOOD 😢

[@kevinjoseph517]

empire builder

[@KundaliniBrat]

You’re not going to change my mind by calling me names. Who do you think you are. YB? My experience with kundalini is experiancial And that’s good enough for me.

[@donna6165]

Can’t agree w/you about 🤡, but I got your back with regard to direct experience with Vitamin K. I’ve found it tremendously fortifying. Enjoy! 🐍 😍

[@ZahleLeb]

Yogi thought very very low of his white students and said that teaching the devil is easier to him than teaching a white student. I’m a Muslim now and a five time nomazi, and I encourage anyone you to embrace Islam if you like changes and truth.

[@ramratankhalsa1870]

Yogi Bhajan - The Donald Trump of Yogaland

[@PRmoustache88]

More like Joe Biden. Bhajan would frequently quote pithy passages from great works like Shakespeare without attribution.

[@KundaliniBrat]

I like trump

[@rmcompany5098]

www.freedomofmind.com, this is the site of a leading cult expert. he also wrote a book titled, "the cult of trump". Incredibly useful site, full of videos on cults, mind control, and influence. I hope we can share with those suffering.

[@rmcompany5098]

@@KundaliniBrat www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Cult-of-Trump/Steven-Hassan/9781982127336 I liked your earlier comment about compassion for people, and with that I really want you to see this. It is important to keep an open mind, this man's site has incredibly beautiful and important videos to help those that have fallen in the trance to wake up.

[@PRmoustache88]

@@rmcompany5098 Now we have the cult of Biden. Nothing's changed. People are still gullible sheep.

[@michaelderrington5255]

I personally knew Yogi Bhajan and am truly grateful for what he gave me and millions of others. Investigate and examine your backside. SAT NAM