Passenger shares video from inside Southwest plane that flew too low

[@Tra-vis]

What video did she even record? That’s a couple thousand feet in the air, not even close to the ground. What a pointless video

[@dukeofhoagies]

@@Tra-vis The video appears to be climbing after the the crew aborted the landing and performed a go-around. The news made it seem like there was video of the aircraft while it was at 150ft and then used some dudes home simulator with Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 to recreate the approach.

[@MichaelP-ns]

And it never went down to 150 feet, the lowest it got was around 370 - still low, but not sensational enough I guess so they're using the non pressure corrected value.

[@flint9889]

I want to know why non of the drivers took videos

[@tommyhollier671]

I agree I live in Columbia South Carolina and they fly way lower than that when they're coming in

[@MichaelP-ns]

@@flint9889 Probably did, but it was raining a LOT at the time (which is why they were using rwy 10 in the first place, it's normally not used)

[@dukeofhoagies]

The drywall in that simulator lets you know it's a genuine Boeing cockpit recreation.

[@timduggan1461]

Pointless, stupid comment. People uneducated about aviation.

[@christopher88719]

In an effort to cut costs, Boeing replaced drywall with adobe clay on the 737 MAX 9 aircraft.

[@ghostwalk2446]

​@@christopher88719Lol no come on man, that's old news. They've since cut costs again by replacing the adobe clay with silly putty

[@mitchwinder1204]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@geezuss1114]

Ahahahahaha😂

[@bunberrier]

This "news" leaves more questions than answers

[@RodManFB]

Caution!!! This video title is deceiving! Imagining the title is far better than wasting your time watching it!

[@iJMultiplication]

That was a terrible video! It didn't show anything!

[@The-Cat]

You don't understand what was shown thats why you didnt see it.

[@tomking1890]

It showed it, but you don't understand it. I am a pilot, and I understood it fine.

[@iJMultiplication]

The video starts at 1:14 and it’s not at 150ft. What am I not understanding? This is borderline clickbait titling by the news.

[@The-Cat]

@@iJMultiplication You're incorrect it showed how it looked like pay better attention.

[@iJMultiplication]

@@The-Cat Lol I watched it like 10 times already. I think you guys are related to the lady who shot the video. Glad everyone’s okay.

[@hsu5]

She almost died.... I am sure she had no idea something was wrong until she got home. I highly doubt the pilot said he was out of gas...

[@maanmohammad8459]

Lol.I mean why she wouldn't think they were landing?😂😂

[@5calambres]

Because she obviously is a frequent flyer and knows the aproach..? And if she didnt knew the danger, why did she texted her husband? You really are not the brightest candle.

[@mojaveman]

​@5calambres the plane almost crashed because she was on her phone. Case closed.

[@maanmohammad8459]

@@5calambres Try to gather a little bit more info before you write your insults,because then you are the one who will be not the brightest one.

[@5calambres]

@@maanmohammad8459 good idea. Go get some information first. Like one of the many other videos about that flight. Keep shining bright little candle.

[@seoceancrosser]

A non pilot passenger not knowing what they were looking at, seems legit.

[@LoriL010]

So, ATC waited until they were at 150' before telling the pilots to check their altitude? I find that hard to believe.

[@richwightman3044]

You probably also find it hard to recite the alphabet.

[@anaccount7923]

@@richwightman3044Poor attempt at a roast?

[@57msdeb]

Low on gas so you divert to the other coast? That’s an odd choice.

[@jerryw5508]

I may be wrong but would you not have enough fuel on board to fly around the airport at least an hour or so if it required it. It's not like the fuel pump light came on their instrument panel and the pilot thought lets go to Fort Lauderdale. Did not hear any Bingo Fuel.

[@maanmohammad8459]

They were not comfortable with the weather.They are not going to go to the other side of the peninsula to gas up when all they needed to do was spending about 10 min for a misaproach.

[@tomking1890]

They were not low on fuel at all.

[@joshuauriarte452]

@@jerryw5508 They have enough fuel for the whole flight plus reserves. This is for lets say go arounds or needing to divert to another airport, usually for another hour or 2 of flight.

[@scooter5940]

It’s 90 miles. Not a big deal.

[@51516]

2:15 Cameraman was mulling over the possibilities versus the consequences.

[@fredsmith6324]

yes he knew ezackly what he was doing!

[@kenbob1071]

2:15 Perfect camera angle Fox "News."

[@boscodooley8561]

She texted abort to her husband? Why? Was he flying the plane? That makes no sense.

[@pauljuliegiffen8928]

Husband was the pilot. Knew she was onboard! 😂

[@Aaron-ef9dz]

If they were low on fuel why dis they divert to Ft. Lauderdale (FLL) and not St. Petersburg/Clearwater (PIE) or Sarasota (SRQ)

[@GSHAPIROY]

Bad weather at those airports, maybe?

[@Smokinondeadpalms]

@@GSHAPIROY very

[@tomking1890]

They were not low on fuel at all. They always carry a 30 minute reserve.

[@kenmore01]

​@@tomking1890 Yep, the answer is because it's a lie.

[@joshuauriarte452]

@@tomking1890 it's more, pilots carry about an hour or 2 of reserve fuel. I've fueled these aircraft and every pilot has told me it's an hour of extra fuel.

[@sammetzger2087]

Everyone needs to call Southwest to complain and demand them to get answers. Boeing .

[@ADAMSIXTIES]

Strike 1: Southworst. Strike 2: Boeing Max. Storm: Strike 3 you're out!

[@drewm3401]

I feel like people are WAY overreacting here

[@MattPSU02]

It's the series of events that is alarming. Three different crews did this in recent weeks. They are clearly not backing up their visual approach with instruments, like they are supposed to.

[@paulh6521]

she should sue because she thought she was going to die

[@tul9033]

The only thing too low in that video was the reporters top. @2:14

[@jim603]

I was too busy trying to look down her top to pay attention to what was being said.

[@richardpark3054]

Could have been just a bit lower...

[@vg23air]

2:12 this reporter discloses every itty bitty part of this mystery

[@groovelife415]

I see the camera man in the simulator is a man of culture. 🍷

[@areaone3813]

That did not look like 150’ in the woman’s video.

[@SalimSivaad]

Something must be going on with the altimeter software. How are all these Southwest Airlines flights having the exact same problem of flying dangerously low?

[@zaram131]

Maybe it’s the same pilot doing this on every flight. 😭

[@BMF_four_twenty]

Woman driver…

[@jwill3856]

@@PlutogalaxyI thought it’s pilot’s discretion to use ILS or visual, especially if sky is clear.

[@bobby1970]

​@PlutogalaxyIn this case the weather was bad.

[@fredsmith6324]

pilot shortage, they rushed pilots to qualification.

[@96chevydually6.5L]

When Karen Flies

[@fredsmith6324]

the simulator later in the video shows what 150 feet looks like. it's real low.

[@RunNGunX]

@@fredsmith6324 yeah it’s low but what she recorded was not and very normal she’s just an attention seeker

[@floycewhite6991]

The cameraman peeks down her blouse.

[@mick5628]

@@RunNGunX she's quite the opposite of a attention seeker, you dont know her.

[@nw6gmp]

Whos garage sim is this? 😂

[@MI325A]

The sim IS my garage.😂😊

[@marcussmith3969]

I thought I might die. What a drama queen.

[@catwoman6630]

😂 your mean

[@maggie0285]

You would if you don't know what's happening

[@nuclearrabbit1]

The distance they were from the runway at 150' is insane. They were lucky there were no radio towers out there. This could have easily been a tragedy. Let them complete their investigation.

[@Hanson3]

I had the same experience with Delta back in May 2017. I Flew from MSP to TPA. There was bad weather over Tampa, and they didn't have enough fuel, and landed in Sarasota.

[@ManuelFresh100]

Who the hell sends a text like that? That's weird

[@dz7a756]

Someone who flies a lot. Be well and be at peace.

[@gtf5392]

This is good reporting! Going the extra mile to actually get in a simulator and give the viewers a feel for what it might have been like for passengers on the plane.

[@donadams8345]

Unfortunately you seldom get a straight story from reporters that know nothing about flying. Stay tuned for the reports that will come out from the FAA.

[@mojaveman]

What the sim didn't show is the sheet of water that the plane was flying in/towards, probably obscuring the airport completely leaving the bridge, which was lined up with the runway direction as their only reference. Pilots should have been on the instrumental.

[@topout26]

Sensationalism at its finest right there! Nothing burger story again.

[@lp9716]

Misleading headline as the “video” shows nothing relating to the actual issue 🙄

[@user-vx8fx1yw1d]

They were NOT just 150ft above, they were more than a 1/4 mile above. You people can't judge anything from inside a plane.

[@janofb]

Out of gas in Tampa so let's fly all the way across the state east, and halfway south to Fort Lauderdale?

[@joenop3393]

Can we see her complete video?

[@povertyspec9651]

My understanding is that Southwest 737's do not call out altitudes until they hit 100 feet.

[@AM-dw2eq]

True. The only automated callouts are “100, 50, 30, 10”. However on approach the PM calls “1000 feet”, which the PF repeats along with airspeed and sink rate. And then the PM also calls “500”. So I don’t think they got that low without knowing it, they just thought they were closer to the airport than they were because of some navigation error that hopefully will be revealed internally at least.

[@andrewmyers9982]

Got to 200 feet, didn't see the runway, aborted and diverted. During the go-around the aircraft might have dipped a little lower due to engine spool up time but this sounds like a standard missed approach.

[@bobmoore303]

Sorry to tell you, but the Courtney Campbell Causeway isn't 4 miles from the airport, it runs parallel along the south airport border.

[@davem6685]

Out of gas. Spoken from a true aviation expert.

[@resolute1306]

Would be great if people would hold the phone horizontally when recording.

[@IdontKnow-fd6rp]

Is she a pilot? How the f@#$ would she know?

[@mick5628]

When you've flown in an airplane hundreds of times and coming into a city where you've lived your whole life, she knows something wrong

[@skiddymark]

media making a mountain out of a molehill again. at least the reporter is hot.

[@eddavis1832]

WHAT A LIAR!!! SouthWest should sue the woman and FOX 13.

[@OSUBUCKEYE1]

If this really happened, why is she the ONLY one that saw/said anything?

[@NickyD]

SW is litrtally under invesgation by the FAA for this not there first time this year its the comapny third time flying too low

[@christerry1773]

There is nothing in this video. They at least 2k ft off the ground.

[@fredsmith6324]

later in the video, the simulator shows you what 150 looks like.

[@christerry1773]

@@fredsmith6324 yes but not the passenger, which is what the title says

[@noex100]

​@@christerry1773 I mean... the title is 100% accurate, it's just highly misleading and clickbait-y. Which is typical for KZbin...

[@christerry1773]

@@noex100 the description is not correct

[@noex100]

@@christerry1773 Nothing in the title OR description is factually incorrect. It's only misleading clickbait, but not outright false. There's a difference.

[@georgewesterling]

Made no sense, if you're out of gas why would u go to ft Lauderdale? You're in Tampa Bay. Sanford, Orlando closer.

[@OSUBUCKEYE1]

Attention: Any driver's that were on the Courtney Campbell Causeway and actually saw this Southwest plane "flying dangerously low," could you please step forward. I'm not buying they were that close to the highway. You can clearly see in her video that they were up high enough.

[@vg23air]

2:12 the two most important points the reporter makes in this story

[@fred7108]

I bet the husband was shocked to find his wife home after that ordeal.

[@Codd23]

Only thing worth watching in this video is when the reporter was flying the simulator!

[@oo0Spyder0oo]

So no video of it at all, ffs.

[@JuanRinconMartinez]

That is normal for many years

[@inverted3rd]

Wait a minute. Low on fuel and you go to Fort Lauderdale? WTH! What was wrong with Tallahassee, Orlando, or Fort Myers?

[@vg23air]

fuel costs and BASING for the airline

[@overyourheadtampa]

Before a flight is ever boarded, the pilots or logistics group for the airline have to select alternate airports as the destination in cases where the main destination is closed or unable to land. They are required to carry enough fuel on board to make the main flight, plus make to the alt destination with x time of fuel remaining with a normal landing at the alternate. They also know the price of fuel and airlines likely set preferred alternative airports with this in mind so refueling isn't as expensive. Could also be landing fees for commercial traffic that vary based on the airport which drives the decision for alternative destinations, or even crew timeouts and availability that may also be a reason. A lot goes into alternative airport decisions.

[@nicholasxavier5892]

She's barely able to see over the dashboard.

[@clintonreisig]

Several points during this video are contradictory

[@lew66999]

I agree, probably over 2000' above the ground - why are you reporting that this is video footage from the plane?

[@BrianIzzo-n7i]

Maybe they flew too low because people didn’t listen and didn’t turn off their phones. 😂

[@noex100]

Uh what the hell are you talking about? There's no requirement to "turn off phones"... do you even fly?

[@dinar1ess776]

i swear news are some of the most goofiest ways of gathering information its like this doesn't happen often

[@Curacaorider]

That's not 150 feet !!

[@uprrslo]

So you used your phone illegally which may or may not have interfered with navigation? Good job.

[@ozmosisnis]

Stressful situation but those texts are insufferable

[@svenjanssens7663]

If you are in the sim, at least set the weather to IMC 👍. Pointless simulation.

[@mojaveman]

100%.

[@frankm7707]

Nancy Allen was amazing in RoboCop

[@sokitjamz8762]

I'm just purely looking at the passenger video... that's not 150 ft.

[@IsaacCline-ru7ls]

That's frightening. If they were only 150ft above the causeway and could see it, then imagine if it were really foggy and couldn't see anything

[@marcussmith3969]

Imagine that you were on the same brain level as the drama queen. Oh wait, you are.

[@IsaacCline-ru7ls]

​@@marcussmith3969 Yes, I am on the same brain level as the drama queen and the FAA who is investigating it and the airline who is investigating it and the local media who is investigating, and the pilot who said it makes no sense why they were that low. Your issue sounds like a lack of brain waves lol

[@MattPSU02]

Ironically, if it was bad weather, they would have been on an instrument approach and probably not have done this.

[@v-grooves8531]

Looks like scud running. Flying just underneath the clouds so they could see.

[@nadirnazim9342]

Thats what i do too.... on my pc flight sim lol.

[@erauprcwa]

You wouldn't do that in a airliner.

[@fw1421]

What the hell is going on at Southwest?🙀🙀🙀

[@gasmith7486]

DEI that’s what!!

[@TheBattleMaster100]

They're going South

[@Marie70272]

If a plane’s shadow is on the grassy part of my lawn in a residential area” was it flying too low.😳🤷🏼‍♀️

[@billpoindexter2113]

To be fair now, this is the third time this has happened in the last couple of months.

[@ImpendingJoker]

Make video horizontal again.

[@SomeOne-mp6ym]

How about the Hawaii incident?

[@dtsh4451]

Whatever happened in Hawaii, stayed in Hawaii 🤣!

[@jeffsullivan3101]

Just did the same thing in Oklahoma City on a clear night! They should ALWAYS have the approach loaded in the auto pilot. Visibility was way to low to be approaching visually. Criminally stupid flight crew, probably DEI hires.

[@kharris0465]

The potential for being a little bit off is, in fact, in the fine print of the ticket that you purchase for your flight.

[@oneanddone7992]

When you pay $13.99 to get to Florida, you shall complain about nothing.

[@vaderthekittenchannel1979]

😂😂😂😩

[@paulhill7818]

😂😂😂😂

[@keurikeuri7851]

Just curious if the onboard computer starts calling out like that then wouldn't the passengers hear it also in the background when the pilot made an announcement. And why was that passenger texting during landing, was it not allowed for passengers to use their phones during takeoff and landing.

[@tinastrauss6828]

Is it at all possible that the altimeter may have had some sort of malfunction? Toward the end of the flight. Did they go to FLL?

[@aaronbennett7032]

Not them using Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020. Also ya it happens planes fly low sometimes. Weather can factor in to that

[@varavix5895]

didnt another sw airlines plane fly way too low in oklahoma just a month ago???

[@chickenfkeryay]

They mentioned oklahoma and ny had flights that were really low.

[@judiebarbieri8847]

Yes

[@power2084]

It wasn't a near miss. It was a near hit. If it had hit, you could say "it nearly missed". But since it missed, it's a near hit.

[@RyOnDrums]

Non pilots talking about pilot things and then televising it lol

[@billb89]

What was too close?

[@7_of_9]

When you hired a Pilot from Temu!

[@yemx4683]

She is a little bit over dramatic

[@povertyspec9651]

That would be cool to be lower than antenna towers, LOL

[@Johnny-mq3mo]

they were not that low in the video and regardless how low they were they needed fuel and were staying below the dangerous weather I applaud the pilots for taking the appropriate action to ensure that everyone on board didn't perish

[@donwilson1307]

The FAA is examining Southwest air operations for the next 3 months. That means sitting in in pilots annual check rides in the simulator, flying in the cockoit and observing it's operations, making sure pilots are adhering to SWA's standard operations., sitting in on the training dept, so on and so forth. This was reported on local Dallas news stations last nite. I definitely think it is warranted.

[@canada_rye]

Ok, I'm not the only only one left confused and disappointed, but it's the news, what was I expecting.

[@patuxent78]

As a pilot, that video wasn't filmed at hundreds of feet, but THOUSANDS OF FEET. Lack of credibility.

[@SAVI-444]

Given the prevailing weather conditions shown in the video, it is puzzling why the pilots chose to fly an uncoupled visual approach. Runway 10 offers both ILS and RNAV approaches, which are typically followed in such weather. As a commercial pilot operating under Part 91, I would utilize these approaches even in my small general aviation planes, let alone in Part 121 operations.

[@65Slipkid]

There is no ILS to 10.

[@fcbrants]

"Southwest 425, we have a phone number for you when you're ready..."

[@skywarrior28]

Southwest does not have those call out that the simulator instructor mentioned at the end of the video. They are turned off to reduce maintenance costs and they view it and a distraction rather than a tool for enhanced awareness. While every 737 operator has these, Southwest management thought it best to disable it on their aircraft.

[@SteelShield21]

But did you die? No. So who cares if the plane flew too low. People need to quit freaking out for no reason and grow a pair.

[@jesusislife345]

The air traffic controller was a life saver. It’s very concerning that this happened too many times in the last weeks. What is going on with Southwest pilots????? This should not have happened. The FAA needs to scrutinize this issue asap.

[@tomh3652]

Pilot would not say low on gas. And how could they go to FT Laud if they were ? With plenty of airports close by like Mcdill or Lakeland St pete-Clw etc...that can handle a 737.

[@kjjones8627]

It's frustrating watching the media report on aviation related incidents. They have absolutely no idea what they are talking about, its so embarrassing. This one was pointless

[@漏风手05]

The news is not happy

[@garydetaeye7081]

That passenger must fly planes she seems to be a expert

[@andrewsnyder9262]

I have actively avoided southwest airlines since the first time I flew. Something about their seating arrangement with no assigned seats never sat well with me. I have read so many stories of people holding seats and being choosy about who they allow to sit next to them. I have more reason to avoid them now.

[@paulhill7818]

They just changed that. Assigned seating now..

[@andrewsnyder9262]

@@paulhill7818 yes I think I saw that shortly after this post. I still won’t fly with them.

[@Wolfbronyentertainment]

It was a max 8 right

[@MXREBOOT]

Supposed to have your phone in airplane mode! 😂

[@almondjoy123]

I can understand flying lower to avoid turbulence and bad weather. That sounds reasonable, but running out of gas shouldn't happen on a planned flight.

[@chap5606]

Why would passengers complain anyways. That would be so cool to be scud running on a big Jet. Stop your whining and take the bus next time.

[@LEVELGAZANOW]

Stop interviewing passengers. Passengers haven’t a clue about what is happening

[@erichknodel4334]

Great job interviewing an actual commercial pilot….Oh wait. I guess a nervous passenger is just as good

[@ouroboris]

The pilots could clearly see the ground and their instruments, and though they were relatively close to the causeway they were in no danger of crashing. I trust them far more than I trust that reporter at the controls.