PASSWORD - Carroll Baker & Bennett Cerf (Apr 24, 1962)

One of several episodes of nighttime Password I'll be posting that feature regulars from WML, this time featuring Bennett Cerf. Many thanks to epaddon for providing his copy of this video.
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[@over50andfantabulous59]

Carroll Baker: Born May 28, 1931 (age 92), is still with us as of 8/23/2023.

[@andytaylor5476]

Carroll Baker, 90 and still living.

[@holymoses1744]

This is kind of a frustrating episode. It's like they aren't even listening to the previous clues.

[@matthewa8713]

It was difficult to watch. They sure struggled.

[@lawsonj39]

True. Art was actually pretty good, but the celebrities were pretty lousy.

[@jamesfox2579]

I met Miss. Baker in California many years ago in the early 90's out at the pool where I had a condo in Rancho Mirage in Palm Springs. She was out at the pool that day, and we struck up a conversation. She was so nice, sweet, charming and incredibly funny, and from that moment on we became friends. ❤️

[@no_handle_required]

Art's so touchy I think he's making Carol a little uncomfortable. Hands off buddy!

[@dangeroreilly2028]

He did seem so touchy, and she subtly seemed to turn away, yet right after the lightning round, she reached over and patted him on the forearm. Mixed signals.

[@100PurpleAvenue]

Say Hello to Pleasure for me, Danger

[@HBMHD]

In his defense he was touchy with Bennet Cerf too, it wasn't a touch for gratification, some people are just touchy and that projects confidence as long as you are impartial. Carol seem to be having a bad time altogether, even with the other girl she seemed stressed.

[@zibbyzubb]

Carroll Baker was so lovely.

[@libertubey2199]

Bennett Cerf on black and white videotape. We get an idea of how he would have looked on videotape during the original broadcasts of "What's My Line?" from 1950-66 (WML went color in September 1966). It's a shame that CBS chose to erase the videotapes and leave the kinescope recordings instead.

[@raesmith2164]

There's a KZbin channel that posts the original and full What's My Line episodes as well as complications of memorable moments of the show

[@roberttelarket4934]

This is the first time in 55 years or so that I’ve seen this program in full! Don’t remember a single episode.

[@kristabrewer9363]

I've watched every episode of Password on here a couple years back, but I don't ever remember seeing Bennet Cerf (of course I watched Password LONG before I watched "What's My Line too. I just started watching that show a few months ago). But you'd still I woulda recognized him when I first saw him on What's My Line

[@PepsiMama2]

OMG I love this.. Never seen Bennett Cerf (my WML Fav) on anything else.. Thanks Gary...

[@cmarkbrown6549]

This was the first of two game shows Arthur Trudeau did in 1962......later in the year, he was a contestant on the pilot episode of the first version of "The Match Game" with Gene Rayburn......he was part of a team with Peggy Cass as the celebrity captain......

[@RC-Flight]

Arthur was a very touchy person, constantly touching his partners.

[@derekcoyle1147]

Some brutally bad clues and responses on this episode, both in the regular game and the lightning round.

[@MsRosieA]

Ooh, you’re not wrong! It actually made it quite tedious to watch…

[@anonymoushard1025]

Carroll Baker was a fierce Black Belt in both Judo and Jiu Jitsu.

[@WmGood]

Yeah but she really flops at this game.

[@sharksport01]

Because of her stalkers.

[@roberttelarket4934]

Great Cerf! Never knew he was on Password.

[@maryeckerberg8041]

Yes. Just watching old Password shows

[@JJJBRICE]

Mr. Cerf looks strange in a strait tie rather than his WML party bow tie !

[@donaldleroy6502]

I'm surprised nobody used refrigerate for chill, as a fan of what's my line it's great to see Bennett play on this show. Would moniker be a good clue for nickname?

[@mynamedoesntmatter8652]

It’s perfect.

[@donaldleroy6502]

@@mynamedoesntmatter8652 thank you, your name may not matter but you matter

[@mynamedoesntmatter8652]

@@donaldleroy6502 What a nice thing to hear, thank you so much! Regards, Myra

[@richrol58]

"Relax" for CHILL, of course...uhh, maybe not!!

[@johnmonkus4600]

With our modern flat monitors you can see that the extreme left side of two of the cameras is squeezed together. You can see the brightness of the image is increased where the scan is squeezed. This was all practically invisible or ignored at the time of the broadcast.

[@manidig]

This looks like a Kinescope. The live TV image was on a picture tube (CRT) and filmed from that. The corners are distorted because of it.

[@poetcomic1]

Man keeps putting his hands all over Carol Baker!

[@ProdigyBowlersTour]

He put 'em on Bennett, too. Just a real touchy, feely, handsy kinda guy, it would appear.

[@gusloader123]

Allen Ludden should have said something to the touchy-feely loudmouth.

[@fremontpathfinder8463]

I noticed that and she was not comfortable with it.

[@patriciamontgomery3651]

Good episode!

[@TheGadgetPanda]

That first contestant was mighty creepy. You could see how worried Carroll Baker was getting, leaning back whenever went in for the grope.

[@savethetpc6406]

***** Art Trudeau? Yeah, he was *much* too touchy-feely, and Miss Baker's discomfort showed in both her posture and her face. It may have affected her game-play as well. I kept thinking maybe Allen should have said something to get him to stop, but it might have been difficult to do that tactfully while the cameras were rolling. I wonder if he did say something during the commercial break, because Mr. Trudeau seemed to be at least attempting to tone it down a little in his second round with Carroll. To be fair, he didn't exactly keep his hands to himself with Bennett either, but his overly familiar way of touching the bare-armed Carroll Baker was more disturbing.

[@SuperWinterborn]

SaveThe TPC I noticed the same. Starstruck isn't that what you call it? ;)

[@savethetpc6406]

SuperWinterborn I don't think it's as much that he was "starstruck" as that he was just touching Miss Baker a bit more than was appropriate or comfortable for her. I think "starstruck" refers to being so in awe of a famous person that you find it difficult to talk or think clearly. (See the various definitions and examples given here: www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/starstruck.)

[@SuperWinterborn]

SaveThe TPC I used the word "Starstruck" in lack of a more appropriate expression for what I meant. He was obviously thrilled by being so close to the celebs, and Bennet didn't go free of his familiarity either. Regarding Ms. Baker, well she was a woman. He might have thought he had an easier way with her. The most of us know the type, I think. Not a particularly charming way to approach others. Ugh!

[@rockymarino584]

Frankly I don't think she was his type. Just sayin.

[@floralbouquets]

Fun fact...we were from the area where Carol Baker was from in Pa. and my dad bought a car from her dad.

[@nelsonricardo3729]

Bennett is just too erudite for his partners’ good.

[@jacquelinebell6201]

I find this show very frustrating. But I still enjoy looking at them.

[@MKIVWWI]

Dang, I was 14 months when this aired!

[@petercrabtree8471]

I was 29 months old....

[@gj4578]

I was 6 years, 4 months.

[@jakob...]

@@gj4578 I was -40 years old haha

[@stuartraish6879]

Dang....I was exactly a week old

[@mykkie100]

@@jakob... Jakob, that would make your birth date year the same as that of Betty White, 1922. I see no reason why you are just making this up, so congratulations. I hope you have a healthy and happy future.

[@maryeckerberg8041]

I wouldn't object if you were to bring me another 3 cookies.

[@jln55]

I just saw a Match Game vid from 1962, and Arthur Trudeau was a contestant on that show.

[@lisica8458]

Hmm. Was "Game Show Contestant" his occupation? Maybe he should've gone on What's My Line.

[@davidfritz1331]

Wow--Caroll Baker is still alive (92 years old at the time of this post).

[@justinmay3451]

Arthur Trudeau was also on the Match Game pilot in 1962!

[@makozurichi-hc6ph]

19:49 This lady nearly imitated Arthur, nearly touching Bennett's left shoulder !

[@franklesser5655]

What a fun show!

[@donaldstanfield8862]

Love Bennett's accent!

[@Sylvander1911]

When he said "Noon" she shouldr hsve said "Opposite"

[@dagdogg]

I think I recognized Arthur Trudeau from the 1962 pilot of "The Match Game".

[@williamdunphy352]

dagdogg Yes was on the first Match Game show in 1962.

[@elspethcoogan1499]

dagdogg I also recognise him from an episode of Password in which he was partners with Carol Channing. He got around! But I wonder why he was on two different episodes?

[@lindaroper2654]

These players weren't to smart .🤦

[@randysills4418]

Yes, that's true...they were not too smart...

[@mynamedoesntmatter8652]

@@randysills4418 Too bad.

[@Ed3737]

Bennett probably ran back to What's My Line after this. Password wasn't his game.

[@tomitstube]

password is less than a year old here, it would seem the contestants weren't guessing based on all the clues and were only focusing on the one given. the lovely carol baker is still alive at 84. i'm guessing contestant art trudeau may have hit it off well with tony randall...

[@dalemcdougall2980]

That panel less aether was also on machgame piolit

[@suzycreamcheesez4371]

yay Corpus!

[@BATMAN777888]

Beddy got lucky at the end 😁

[@ofrabjousday1]

Wax---Paraffin. Nickname---Betty. (The contestant's name.)

[@lorelcoyote1808]

Surprised Carroll Baker didn't say Baby Doll for nickname.

[@MajorSeventh]

Honey chill... smh

[@BlueStarDog5]

MajorSeventh I didn't get this, could someone please explain?

[@MajorSeventh]

BlueStarDog5 "Honey child" (often spelled "honey chile") was a common term of endearment in the American south. Since it was the last clue and nothing had worked so far, Bennett decided to make a pun. The problem is that "chill" sounds nothing like "child" or "chile", but that never deterred Bennett before. :-)

[@BlueStarDog5]

MajorSeventh Thanks for the explanation!

[@dachille1]

What clue did Bennett give for atom? He was off mike and it was hard to hear.

[@savethetpc1547]

+Daniel Achille I think he said, "tiny," which was a very good second clue after Carol's first clue of "bomb." It's one of those instances in which the later introduced "option to pass or play" when you have the first turn would come in handy.

[@richrol58]

I got "TINY" too but nowhere near a sure thing...

[@marytschida5756]

wine for chill

[@richrol58]

I would have repeated CHEAT for the third time near the end for SWINDLE...

[@jaysmith1408]

Wax-Johnson's, candle, car Nickname-pseudonym

[@maryeckerberg8041]

And another bottle of tea?

[@billoddy5637]

2:50 Netflix

[@shelholl4moloweeatwh]

these contestants are not smart enough to be truly interesting....

[@timmellin2815]

old time b/w television......lavalier microphone for Ludden, and EV mics for the contestants.

[@SuperWinterborn]

No one seemed very inspired this evening, but Bennett looked even younger than he did on "What's My Line?" same year. Could it be that the lighting and the background was different?

[@savethetpc6406]

SuperWinterborn I was surprised at how poorly almost everyone on this episode played. Some of the words were legitimately difficult to define with one word clues, but the players just kept repeating themselves ineffectually several times -- often repeating clues that were never particularly good or even relevant in the first place. And they missed out on some fairly obvious clues (I couldn't believe nobody thought of "candle" as a clue for "wax", for example). Another skill with Password, I think, is knowing how to use inflection to convey the appropriate meaning or coax the appropriate response, and it didn't seem like any of them used that technique very effectively either. I know what you mean about how youthful Bennett looked, but I'm at a loss to explain it. You could be right that the background and lighting were more flattering, or maybe it was some artistry by the make-up man, or perhaps just the fact that the show was probably filmed at an earlier time of day? These episodes weren't live, as WML was, were they?

[@SuperWinterborn]

SaveThe TPC I don't know if the episodes were live, but I don't think they were. Whatever, "candle" should be mandatory when it comes to "wax", among other clues they could have used instead of what they did. But, in general, I think, this was one of those days we all know of. When all forms of communication are slow or delayed, nobody seems inspired, and misunderstandings are more a rule than an exception. It happens to the best, even in showbiz. Don't you think? ;)

[@savethetpc6406]

SuperWinterborn I think I had "one of those days" at work today! :/ ...Actually, it wasn't the whole day -- just part of it.

[@WhatsMyLine]

SaveThe TPC Sorry to hear that.

[@SuperWinterborn]

SaveThe TPC Don't you worry, TPC. These days we all experience regularly during a year. The point is, not to take the incidents personally because they generally relate to so many. Something you might have experienced when reading all the comments under your videos, Gary?

[@maryeckerberg8041]

Cookies?

[@marytschida5756]

None of them were very good players.

[@dalemcdougall2980]

Arther truck was

[@dorothykilgallenwasmurdere1653]

Carol gave away half the word and wasn't buzzed. They all were horrible players. Could have said "pseudonymn" for nickname. Bennett should have known.

[@karenedmiston5964]

Not the best Password. Art was downright wacky.

[@davidgaskin3788]

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[@jasonhurd4379]

Every time I've seen Carroll Baker, I've always thought What a pretty lady. Then she opens her mouth, and that flat, harsh voice ruins the whole thing.

[@gusloader123]

Probably, one of the WORST episodes ever of "Password". Loudmouth touchy-feely jerk who was horribly stooooopid at the Lightning Rounds. The woman contestant who obviously has never owned nor consulted a dictionary gave some idiotic answers. {Seems that the "Password" producers / crew never tested these people before letting them on stage. My almost 11 year old granddaughter could have done better. 🙃} Bennet Cerf owned/ ran a Book company so, I would have thought he of all people he might have a better command of the language. Not so. Crummy clues, crummy answers. Carrol Baker ( From "How The West Was Won" ) was the only reason to watch this episode to the end. { Easy on the eyes 😉} She was not a great player, but better than Bennet Cerf. hmmmm? How is "nick" NOT a form of the word "nickname"?!? Dictionary man must have fallen asleep.

[@kentdean3882]

Art is more interested in mugging for the camera than in playing the game. Totally obnoxious.

[@elliebellie7816]

Terrible showing by Bennett Cerf. He should have done much better.

[@rossdelain1645]

Exactly he kept sticking to and repeating the same words the other contestants had already mentioned. His brain obviously hit a brick wall during that Lightning Round.