Past Life Trauma. Interview with Janet Raftis

[@laylas5341]

❤❤❤❤❤❤ I am a student in SBSM and a Reiki Master. Thank you for this discussion. This large understanding of experience and how to hold it in my awareness while working through my personal trauma is the balance beam that I am trying to walk

[@cassandrakali]

Irene and Janet, I deeply respect you both and the work that you each do individually. Watching you come together in this interview was like Christmas morning! While listening, I had a really lovely moment where the truth of what was being said just clicked and then settled within me. This was great! Thank you so much! I hope to see Part 2 soon! 😁

[@annawolfe2706]

I've had past life memory since I was 7 years old. Several of them I've verified thru historical research. I've done readings since I was 20. (I'm now 64.) Most souls on Earth today have past life trauma.

[@wantalkiiho]

ThankYouThankYouThankYou! In less than 2 hrs, This discussion articulates what my studies & experience over the past 20 or so years has shown me. I’m still healing (myself), learning, and ever-attuning to grow towards a greater understanding/gnosis of how this works, ever seeking how I can best serve the greater good of All.

[@TheSleeptalkProcess]

Janet's experience is very similar to mine. I too didn't know it was different and have seen past life since my earliest memories. it is incredible to sometimes just mentions something to a client and within seconds cellular trauma memory just dissipates. I too kept it very quiet for a long time, on guard and in fear of what seeing may bring into my life. Our own past lives and seeing can guard us from stepping into the ability. I tried very hard to "contain" it and not use my past life and psychic intuition but was literally pushed and given a pretty big "wake up" from energy and spirit. I had no choice but to be intuitive and see. I laughed at the "didn't know it was not normal" comment! How true! I too would happily move energy and thought it was something all could do, and we all can ;-)

[@JanetRaftisChannel]

yes!

[@sippedejes]

If this is weird then science is weird also. Some of the scientific theories are pretty far out. This anybody who cares can explore for themselves and get a first hand impression. Great interview! :-)

[@sophienevillthekindestthin5182]

You're awesome Irene - such an important topic - much respect for you grounding it and thank you for sharing!

[@kahlodiego5299]

♥️

[@jkiddo4254]

Thank you both, this was incredible to watch, Janet your expression of empathic trauma sounds just like me only I didn't have words for it till now. Brilliant, love to you both xx

[@hoops8534]

Such an interesting topic. My husband and I have talked about dreams we have had, that feel like another lifetime. They don’t come often, but when they do, they stay around for a little while. I too have that Brian Weiss book. Maybe it’s time to give it another read. Thank you ladies ♥️

[@rtbphx1736]

Irene and Janet! This is the most deeply, deeply resonating discussion I have ever listened to!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sooooooooo... Damn Good! Thank you! I could and will watch this over and over!

[@grassgrees6728]

i respect you both! i do psychic work sometimes, and i agree with you! that's the reason why i really prioritise my nervous system regulation really seriously everyday, (even if i find it boring a lot of the times), thank you thank you. i am so glad i met you in this lifetime

[@rootedinsight]

Ahhhhhhh I love this interview! I'm a former social worker turned energy healer and I can relate so much to this ❤

[@loes1655]

Thank you Janet and Irene, this was realy amazing and inspiring.❤🙏

[@ginaodo]

So grateful for thorough referencing.

[@annawolfe2706]

Many people say they don't believe in past lives at all, but they've always had this thing about...(fill in the blank) .. and then suddenly they are telling you all about it in great detail.

[@rachelcollins6079]

I’ve been fascinated by topics including spirituality, past lives and NDEs for many many years and I’ve had a very profound somatic experience during a past life regression myself. However, I remain sceptical about several aspects. I wonder whether the somatic release was energy from trauma in this life which was symbolised as another life? I don’t know for sure but it would allow a safe way for release of trauma. Also, many people report healing during and following a NDE and I’ve read ideas about what happens between lives. If reincarnation exists and we accumulate traumas in each life which are unresolved and taken into our next lives that sounds unbearable as we clock up lives. I would like to hope God ensures healing occurs between lives and wipes the slate clean if that makes sense with the unconditional love that is often reported. I’m all for the idea that we plan our lives in order to learn something specific, I’m less comfortable with karma. I really hope you get to see this comment and respond.

[@teamlyon3109]

Hi Rachel, Seth here from Team Lyon. I'll have to answer your questions from a couple different lenses :) First, the somatic trauma lens - when it comes to healing trauma in this somatic, nervous system based way, it really doesn't matter when or even what exactly happened. We work with the experience of the body in the moment no matter if the wound is from last week or ten lifetimes ago. Now, in order to address your other ponderings I have to switch to my lens as someone greatly interested in spiritual matters who has been actively working on developing their consciousness through meditation for 20 years. So, the following is not in the somatic trauma healing book or backed by science in the traditional sense (though one could say it is backed by the science of conscousness)! My perception is that trauma in this life is almost always reflections of trauma from other lives, simply because most of us here on Earth who have been in the reincarnation cycle for a long time have accumulated a LOT of trauma by the time we find our way towards healing it. However, there may also be cases of souls who lived most of their incarnations on other, more peaceful and evolved planets, and they come here for the first time and it is the density and violence of Earth at this time that traumatizes them, and it has nothing to do with the past. Either way, I take comfort in the fact that a system will move towards healing and homeostasis far faster than it takes to become damaged, because in my opinion the organic trend of Creation is a movement towards healing and wholeness, rahter than entropy and destruction as many would have us believe In terms of wiping the slate clean after an incarnation I think that is an option, but not one that many take because they are too darn eager to reincarnate again, or because they don't realize they have that option. Exercising that option means NOT going to the Light (which is the entrance back into the reincarnation cycle). Rather, one would want to stay in the Void for a while and just focus one's intention on Source and reunion with that energy. I believe this would facilitate a return to the Godhead and a complete healing of incarnated experiences. That being said - it's possible there will still be some nitty-gritty stuff waiting for us if we return to being in a physical body here, simply because there may be some trauma that it is ONLY possible to heal while in that physical body.

[@rachelcollins6079]

@@teamlyon3109 thank you for your long and considered reply. I will re read it and think on it. Truth is I've spent this life with more questions than answers, but always hoping to join up some of the dots. Take care

[@samlyons6438]

I'm going to make two comments on this video. One will be before I've heard it, and two will be after. So here's the first one *at risk of complete humiliation but I don't care. So Irene says "where is the science girl?" is exactly the understanding I have right now...which is a yearning for 'science' [heck knows what that is anyway, and if that word is important, it's only important because of the collective buy-in to it being important] and so-called 'woo-woo' [and goddamn, a lot of it appears that way] is FINALLY having a conversation together and realising that this INFINITE Universe is WELL-CAPABLE of having the capacity to hold in its presence Paradox, Dichotomy, Juxtaposition, Opposites....so let this dialogue not only begin, but continue so that ALL of us (including me) are challenged out of our Boxes - the boxes being the definition of the areas that we think we're being 'free' in. It's a never-ending journey folks! #Yeslifeismadandawesomeatthesametime

[@emarekica]

This is so fascinating and at the same time completely abstract to me as I've never in my life experienced not one thing mentioned in this interview. It's a strange feeling, like reading something in a foreign language you don't understand, yet I'm so very curious to hear about how people can feel and perceive life that is so different than my perception. From that point of view, thank you for this interview.

[@youssefel-kady5734]

U really genius woman...☺️☺️

[@SkyRiverhawk]

Sleep paralysis and past lives can be "confused" . Sleep paralysis is incredibly real for those of us who experience it and has similar qualities. I definitely feel sleep paralysis can be incredibly traumatic.

[@Lotussparkle]

Lovely interview! To add to the list: Talking to nature by Michael Roads is a book that not only shows the connection we can access to communicate with nature and nature spirits but also to dive into our own past lives. Michael Roads has a fascinating way of writing about his own real-life experiences and discoveries in this matter.

[@chosilyfala1483]

A fascinating vidéo! Thank you.

[@panchromatic242]

People who *think* they are open, who *want* to be open, who *strongly* desire to experience this kind of healing but just *can't*, who have tried dozens of different approaches with no obvious results, what would you advise for them (me)? Is there any way to *actually* become open, cooperative, receptive, a good candidate, etc.?

[@JanetRaftisChannel]

Hi Kirk! I replied to your email but it got returned to me. And short answer, YES, there most definitely is.

[@twilit]

Holotropic Mind by Stanislav Grof is another amazing book dealing with topics like Holographic Universe does which she mentioned - it’s not new agey yet dealing with many topics that the skeptics among us would block out immediately in a scientifically foundational but highly expansive and innovative ideas.

[@GoldandPinkLight]

LOVE LOVE LOVE this!! Love you two powerful, conscious women!

[@jennalynn1918]

she reminds me of myself, thank you for sharing

[@diverstalent]

Hi! Thank you for this video! Could you please make a transcription available? Thank you!

[@teamlyon3109]

You are welcome diversalent! Jen here from Team Lyon. I don't believe transcripts are available and will confirm for you. In the meantime, you can install save from net. This allows you to download all FB, YT and IG videos to your hard drive. From there you may be able to use a transcription service to transcribe the video. Here's where you can find instructions for save from net: en.savefrom.net/userjs-for-google-chrome.php

[@Lotussparkle]

@@teamlyon3109 Transcripts are standard installed on any YT video. Click the little square with small stripes below (right side) the time-line on the video.

[@cocoweepah]

An old favorite topic of mine is revealed in Dwight H. Bulkley’s book: “Psycles: Using Your Circadian Rhythms to Control Accidents, Illness and Psychological Problems” Take his insights into PRE-birth frames and VOILA ... we are where you both are describing our past-lives trauma. Peace, ALL ways 🥰 🥰

[@Lachlans-i2s]

This is such an existential crisis because we just keep cycling in samsara countless amounts of times ahhh

[@kokoorp4600]

Hi Irene😊 I wanted to know if your work applied to people that are psychic/ intuitive and had traumatic experiences of sorts in that realm? I am pretty sure that my nervous system is overwhelmed and in survival mode due to those type of experiences that still happen more or less. So if you have any reccomendations and ppl that can help please add them here. I would be really greatful ❤

[@kristinabakerkenny]

Love you guys!

[@PersonS6]

This is a very interesting topic and conversation between you two which I really want to learn more about. I am a littlebit skeptical in the way that part of me believes this is true and feels it is true and part of me doesn't yet "know" it is true if that makes sense. It isn't as much of a certainty as some other truths I've come to know. One critique I have about this conversation and about some of Irene's other video's is that it is sometimes not clear what has been scientifically proven and what has not. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we should only be talking about stuff that have been scientifically proven but it should be made clear what is science and what is experience. For example the ACE study is scientific, past life regression is not (yet). Sometimes seems that Irene has a somewhat lower standard of what can be considered proof than I personally would have. Anyway I always enjoy the vidro's nonetheless!

[@teamlyon3109]

Hi sarepaar, Jen here from Team Lyon. Great to hear you found the conversation between Irene and Janet interesting. Thanks for the feedback about being clear when something is backed by science and when it isn't. I'll pass your feedback along.

[@SparkledOctopi]

Perfect!😊 thank you both so much xxx

[@1101-b2u]

I was full time soldier in 3 life time in my past life. Now I am experiencing those trauma, it is very hard, painful and sad. I am experiencing those horrifying events my 25 years in this life time. What should do? Is it PTSD?

[@teamlyon3109]

Hi 1101 100, Jen here from Team Lyon. In the approach that Irene teaches, we work with the symptoms from past lifetimes in this life time. So if you're feeling a somatic memory from being a soldier, for example, you would work with what's showing up in the here and now. Irene teaches the basics of how to work with your nervous system approach in her online intro course, The 21 Day Nervous System Tune Up, and those that want to go deeper join SmartBody SmartMind, her more comprehensive program. You can also work through this by working with a somatic practitioner. If you want to learn more about healing trauma in general, I'd recommend checking out Irene's free Healing Trauma training. I'll link to it here. irenelyon.com/healing-trauma

[@kjice8677]

I know what u mean I was a marine in Vietnam, alot of shit went down. I wish i never went to that fucking war I just talked to a past life therapist on the phone They said when those memories come, try to do or think about something else Itll be hard but if we keep trying itll get less and less Ptsd is with us forever We just gotta learn how to handle it better Like start doing physical activity or socializing

[@jotinatrujillo4536]

I have someone that has what I think she choose to loose a limb in a past life and feels in this life pain and blood pooling in that limb/Hand & arm. I am trying to figure out how to heal this kind of past life trauma. Any help?

[@IreneLyon]

Hi Jotina, Seth here with Team Lyon. We work with past life trauma the same way we work with trauma from this life - its all about working with what is happening the human system in relationship to the environment NOW. It doesn't' matter where or when the wound happened, the present moment is the gateway into healing it regardless.

[@rachelsweets]

❤❤❤

[@andreawilloughby8684]

What's with all the colors popping up and surrounding you both on this video?

[@teamlyon3109]

Hi Andrea Willoughby, Jen here from Team Lyon. I'm not seeing the colors. Do you have a time stamp where you're seeing them?

[@DA-gi6gs]

Yes me too

[@luvinmaks]

I cannot take this seriously when one of these people wants you to carry guilt and shame for being born as a certain race and this person wants you to believe that YOU are to blame for the problems of others. How can you heal when someone like this is projecting all the blame onto YOU for things you had NOTHING to do with? Such dark energy.

[@robynwitheford5378]

Need advice about some trauma in this lifetime and a past life trauma 😤🤬😡😭

[@IreneLyon]

Hi Robyn, Seth here with Team Lyon. Sure, post your question here and one of us will get back to you as soon as we can. Usually within a few days.

[@robynwitheford5378]

@@IreneLyon I'm also frightened by anything that is sharp , and in dreams don't mind wielding it to protect pregnant and vulnerable people from harm , horrific visions and nightmare's plaque me , plus a unnatural craving that I'm struggling to deal with 😥😥😥😤🤬💯💯

[@IreneLyon]

​@@robynwitheford5378, it sounds like you have a lot of fear, which can be common for those of us with long term trauma. This work that Irene teaches can usually help with that. If you haven't yet watched Irene's free Healing Trauma video training you might start there. I'll also link to two of her other free resources that you might check out. free Healing Trauma video training - irenelyon.com/healing-trauma DIY: Ancient Anxiety Medicine - kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnqmpJWOiqh-o68 4 Simple Steps to Calm Overwhelm - irenelyon.com/4-steps-to-calm-overwhelm/

[@sandraoaks7887]

Past lives.. reincarnation? Really? When ppl bring up stuff most ppl know doesn’t exist it makes it extremely difficult 2 believe or follow ur other thinking that just might help ppl. B4 u get frustrated w/ this point of view, know that many others believe as I do, I would say the majority & ur chasing them away w/ this kind of teaching. Ppl who need help desperately, need sound info. I’m one of those ppl. The only way I could b more depressed would b being suicidal which I’m not but I’m trying desperately 2 get healed. Sitting on my couch n a frozen place is very dysfunctional & frustrating & I’m losing hope that any of this works. Most counselors don’t believe n EMDR & so far it hasn’t gotten me out of the freeze place. I truly am not trying 2 b rude. Could u think ab this? I’m not directing this to any person trying 2 learn only the teachers. My counselor thinks this is crazy crap & no she didn’t influence me. Ty.

[@teamlyon3109]

Hi Sandra Oaks, Jen here from Team Lyon. I hear that the ideas of past lives and reincarnation don't resonate with you. This is understandable - some people deeply resonate with these concepts, other's don't at all, and other's are in the middle. Irene is teaching from her experience, what she's observed and believes. There's a concept from Gestalt that I'll share in case it's helpful at all. The idea is that we can take in information (such as that Irene teaches and discusses with Janet here) and then check in with ourselves to see what resonates and what doesn't. We can keep what does and let go of what doesn't without throwing away the whole kit and caboodle (or keeping parts that don't resonate). You might also check out Irene's book list to see if there are resources there that resonate with you. Books I Love - irenelyon.com/2020/05/17/books-i-love-plus-an-open-heart-surgery-analogy/

[@Sam-dw2bg]

This topic undermines the credibility of somatic theory to the public. This should be on a separate channel. "Past life" trauma/theory is a new age subject that is rife with grifters and scammers who take advantage of vulnerable people. You're a large voice in the somatic community and there should be consideration for the vulnerable group you're working with--this is the equivalent to grooming people to accept fringe ideas as normal, accepted theory. Experiencing past life trauma is a SUBJECTIVE experience and I find it unprofessional to be promoting it.

[@gruvymojo]

Thank you! As someone who actually finds past life theories intriguing, I also find it irresponsible and disappointing that Irene has chosen to give them a platform on her supposedly science-based channel. "The Secret"? Are you kidding me?

[@teamlyon3109]

Hi Sam, Seth here from Team Lyon. Thanks for expressing your opinion. I hear you that you believe reincarnation to be a 'fringe' idea and certainly everybody has a right to their own belief. One thing to note is that the vast majority of the population of the planet believes in an eternal soul and most major religions believe in reincarnation - Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism, and Kabbalah Judaism to name a few. So while this video and channel is not about religion, it IS about addressing topics around trauma that are of interest to many, and this is one such subject. It is only in the West that reincarnation is thought of by some as 'fringe'. And even in the West, Quantum Physics has shown a great probability that we are existing in countless Universes simultaneously. Some scientists in that field have expressed the thought that 'past lives' may actually be 'other lives' that are happening now. So these kinds of ideas are not entirely out of the box of modern scientific thinking even in the West. At the end of the day, in Somatic Work, it doesn't matter what the source of the trauma is, as we work in the present moment with the body to resolve it, but many of my clients, and my colleagues' clients, and myself personally, and Irene, all have had experiences of declarative memories arising from such work, that are not of this lifetime.

[@teamlyon3109]

Hi Ray, please see my reply to Sam above, thanks.

[@Sam-dw2bg]

​@@teamlyon3109 Thanks for the reply. I find your response disappointing. I'm not talking about religion, I'm talking about things like this (an exaggeration, for sure, but it illustrates my point): kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmTbppiOlqxlqKs At my most vulnerable time, I got pulled into these ridiculously cultish new age ideas, and I found them though "simple" concepts that you've highlighted in your video. They caused a lot of harmful thinking that I'm still trying to undo today. When I finally began to heal, it was astonishing to see how I fell for these scams in the first place because I could not see the RED FLAGS. And the thing is: I'm not unique. There were TONS of people dealing with unhealed trauma in the new age communities I frequented. Additionally, quantum theory, a very difficult to understand branch of science, has also been hijacked by the new age crowd (Deepak Chopra, anyone?). I understand that you, "Team Lyon", want to come from a good place, but how is your average, traumatized, viewer going to vet these ideas once introduced? As you know, trauma makes you vulnerable, it disables critical thinking. Why introduce spirituality at all, considering the type of person (which I assume is, on average, western) you're trying to reach? These concepts are something for a healthy mindset to explore--that's why I think this video is misplaced on your channel and irresponsible.

[@la124]

Past lives are not a fringe idea. Millions of people all over the world believe in past lives and many have had personal experiences that have proven to them that past lives are real. I agree that there are those who have brought an element of disrepute to the whole topic of past lives but there are also many of us who are very rational with both feet on the ground who have no doubt that past lives exist. What is needed is to keep this subject in the realms of normal beliefs and not mix it up with other subjects like psychic phenomena which is actually not necessary and might alienate many.

[@private9013]

This is so demonic. There is no past life. Find Jesus