Pastor Gerald Johnson Joins Jesse! (Ep. 300)

On this week's episode of TheFallenState TV, host Jesse Lee Peterson is joined by Pastor Gerald Johnson-He is the Founder and Senior Pastor of Faith Culture Church. Pastor Gerald joins Jesse to discuss his experience in Hell! According to Pastor Gerald, Hell is a very real place and he's been there. He and Jesse talk about the things he saw while in Hell, what he learned about forgiveness after being there, the fake news that's been spread about him, salvation, anger, forgiveness, and much more! Tune in on Friday at 12 Noon Pacific Time / 3:00 PM Eastern Time to catch our Premiere!
Pastor Gerald Johnson: / geraldajohnson , / @faithculturechurch , www.geraldajohnson.org, / gajmtv
00:00 Start
00:25 Guest Intro
01:26 Welcome to The Fallen State!
01:54 Pastor Gerald Johnson
02:18 Was Pastor Gerald called by God or did he just go to school?
02:53 Education is of the intellect
03:30 Wouldn’t God just have taught you?
04:29 Are human beings in a Fallen State?
05:01 The God above is the man’s God
06:40 When Adam listened to Eve she became his God
08:35 Why are men so afraid of women?
09:06 Is Pastor Gerald afraid of his wife?
09:28 Pastor Gerald sees women in leadership in the Bible
10:30 Why did God let Deborah and Miriam lead entire nations?
11:14 What’s important to you?
11:52 Why did Pastor Gerald name his church Faith ‘Culture’ Church?
12:47 Kingdom over culture
13:13 Why are blacks so into their culture?
14:01 Pastor Gerald’s parents taught him to value black culture
14:50 Older folks are more into their victimhood
15:35 “The more degrees people get the dumber they become” 😂
16:01 Why not correct them but with love?
17:16 Does racism exist?
17:50 Pastor Gerald shares an experience of so-called racism
18:46 Was that hatred or racism?
19:23 Jesus said “there’s all kinds of evil”
21:26 Before the Civil Rights blacks were different
22:20 MLK was a communist
23:03 Has the black community been getting worse since the 60s?
23:27 Pastor Gerald saw Detroit, Michigan’s collapse
24:21 Do you have anger?
25:45 Pastor Gerald believes that demons exist
26:15 How did you become an angry person?
26:48 “Anger is the nature of the woman”
27:40 Pastor Gerald says anger comes from the absence of a father
28:37 Has Pastor Gerald forgiven his mother?
29:30 “Anyone that has anger is of the devil”
30:16 Forgiving a deceased person
31:14 What would happen if you went and forgave?
31:51 “Biblical Manhood”
32:13 “Rejects passivity, accepts responsibility, leads courageously, invests eternally”
32:32 How does Pastor Gerald deal with the Hell in his wife?
33:05 Heated fellowship
34:31 Pastor Gerald went to Hell
39:11 God rebuked Gerald for holding resentment
41:19 Did Pastor Gerald see Satan in Hell?
42:20 What did Pastor Gerald do when he returned to his body?
43:39 Does Pastor Gerald have perfect peace now?
44:07 Do you create your own thoughts?
45:08 Paul said he dies daily
45:37 Does Pastor Gerald know that Satan has made a home in his mind?
47:25 Is the Bible the word of God or the word from God?
48:06 Adam, Paul, and Daniel heard God’s voice
49:30 The imagination is the voice of the Devil
51:35 Are white men the most hated species on this side of heaven?
53:37 Why are white men hated?
53:42 Does Pastor Gerald correct his congregation that believe the mess?
54:33 Pastor Gerald has 3 kids
55:17 Did Pastor Gerald correct his wife while she was raising his children?
55:55 What is the solution to the division in America today?
56:39 Is it possible to fix the issues with women in leadership?
57:25 THE HOT SEAT
1:01:02 How to find Pastor Gerald’s work
1:01:52 Credits
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[@imjustsaying8244]

The guest is good. He’s being agreeable with out agreeing. That’s a good technique for getting along with people.

[@toffeenut1336]

Pastors need an audience. Without them, they go broke.

[@SG-kp5hi]

Totally

[@jasond2228]

Hats off to Pastor Gerald Johnson. Another refreshing discussion led by Jesse AMAZING! The respect they both show each other is second to none...... beautiful to see & listen Amen.....

[@scarbo2229]

This was a beautiful conversation, and Pastor Johnson is a gem. Because they were listening and not arguing, we had a chance to hear Jesse’s teaching uninterrupted. Amazing.

[@scarbo2229]

@@temag Pastor Jesse is the most based teacher.

[@swankandflow]

This guy has such a beautiful demeanour…another amazing JLP interview!✨

[@boobasile5935]

I really, really, really like this guy. Very open and a active listener. He actually took the time to think through the process. Amazin!

[@robertpodgurski3260]

O

[@Funkylion13]

AMAZIN!!!!

[@tonton1945.]

I agree!

[@tlaw53montecarloss]

Actively listening to foolishness and weak theology is not a compliment lol

[@flashybuddie1147]

I agree! Great guest. Would love to see him on the show again!

[@marcosjara1797]

Great show. Seems like a great pastor and follower of Jesus Christ.

[@sheliauzoma2268]

I love how this pastors responses to these questions. Patient and practical. Thanks for sharing the hell experience.❤️

[@MT-hi8bm]

That man been in hell and Jesse still put him in the hot seat, Ah-mazin.

[@dirtworshiper2800]

Pastor Gerald Johnson is Amazin. A real man that can have a real conversation. Enjoyed this.

[@philobetto5106]

Halfway through, Pastor Gerald Johnson is a man of men and walks close to God

[@Herknight4]

I loved this interview with this pastor ❤

[@Mrs.CGraves]

Pastor Johnson, whew, you did Great. Pastor Jessie is a formidable agitator and apologist in his own special way. God Bless.

[@quakeere9956]

No, Jesse is a false teacher who never quotes the Bible accurately nor does he even accept the divinity of Jesus Christ. His works are all in vain and he needs to repent and be transformed by the renewing of his mind. I'm definitely praying for him

[@asintonic]

This was a great show and awesome guest. Have him on again. Thanks and blessings to you all

[@patientlywatching7775]

You get a like from me just based on your screenname. 😅👍

[@DaLeada100]

I love Pastor Gerald’s faces when Jesse says something just CRRRAZY! And off!! Hahaha it’s the pauses for me. He really was thinking after Jesse asked a crazy question🤣🤣🤣

[@kennethjohnson5179]

Way to go Jesse. You keep it fun yet direct.

[@helenlowder3424]

By one man’s disobedience were made sinners ,by ones man’s obedience we a Made righteous

[@spencejoy]

Love how open minded he is

[@reynoldburt1208]

Hello Ms Spencer

[@ryanphillips4700]

i always enjoy waiting for the response to that question "whats wrong with da blatts?"

[@Productions368]

I like this guy. He's real!

[@tonton1945.]

Great conversation!

[@theway9828]

Jesse speaks with confidence

[@CoolPapaJMagik]

I wonder if Jesse got the reverse h1tler facial hair on purpose

[@user-xg7yj8ft4g]

This guy has a very humble spirit

[@hamilton29]

Jesse when he says "whats wrong with the BLAH'KS"

[@jacobnmoremi2647]

I find the question Offensive and it appears to be his favorite Question.

[@CoolPapaJMagik]

@@jacobnmoremi2647 we should be asking “what’s wrong with the Wh ites that we’re allowing other races to abuse us?”

[@heavenizmyhome718]

😆😆😆😆

[@ChrisWilliams-le1we]

🤣🏡🏡🏡🏡

[@jaymoney9643]

What’s funnier is when he says Mezicahns. The Mezicahns take jobs from the Blahks . Amazin

[@paddyfrancis1328]

I like this guest. A true man with integrity. No ego, no hate..a brilliant man.

[@jdturkdrcox]

Pastor Gerald did the best i've seen! You could tell Jesse enjoyed the conversation more than usual.

[@tommyboy7820]

Thanks for sharing

[@liriogalvan9131]

Because he really knows Jesus Christ he is a humble man and have love amen 🙏 ♥️

[@Georgie-eh7do]

This guy really seems to have it.. Spot on pastor great job 👍

[@christopherlynce5008]

God taught him through the people at the school. God uses people to develop and bless others

[@arthurcantrell1954]

Good interview

[@karondalittlejohn]

Such a great interview!!!!!! Loved The hot seat portion!! It was hilarious!!!

[@txmade734]

The Pastor from Faith Culture Church in Round Rock, TX. Thats pretty cool

[@stephenleigh4571]

This man from this Podcast just makes up anything and calls it theology. A God for the men and a God for women being Satan; that is ridiculous and found no where in the Bible. The Holy Spirit never said that to anyone.

[@keithwilliams9785]

Jesse didn't trap this brother today! Good for him!lol

[@djsynced7625]

Jesse never traps anyone. He only asks questions. In this case the person being interviewed has agreed in some things, he also has taken the stance of being open and looking into what Jesse said. When the pastor disagrees, he does it without taking it personal

[@Epic-uh9vq]

What do you mean Jesse didn't trap the guest today ?

[@djsynced7625]

@@etimodesakcarc666 Interesting. How did the Pastor embarrass Jesse? Throughout the whole interview Jesse’s questions made him uncomfortable. When you have really been born again from the Father, Jesse’s simple and straight forward questions should be a dialogue, and not a competition to show that he did not walked out of the interview. Give me an example of how the Pastora embarrassed Jesse.

[@treeamigo8447]

Love you Jesse

[@TransFormers.Males.In.Disguise]

Very good interview.

[@patientlywatching7775]

You, (and the guy who goes by "unvaccinated") both get likes from me based on your screennames. 👍👍👍

[@reynoldburt1208]

Mr Jesse Lee Peterson is cooorect about hearing the Father's voice, John 5:37 and the Father who sent Me you haven't heard His voice nor seen His Form. Mr Jesse Lee Peterson hit the nail directly on the head, HalleliYahwah, meaning i praise Yah

[@genx8367]

The word of God made flesh is Jesus

[@opinionatorX]

This brother is very patient and wise. You have to be to step in the delirious world of this stubborn ole fool Jesse Lee Dementia. Lol! Pray for Jesse's salvation. Ahmazin!

[@twiinzbaez391]

I believe his story

[@reddnewmillennium]

Jesse Lee is hilarious man. He be leading them on😂

[@noloking]

The guests consistent ability to disagree in such an agreeable manner is fascinating to me

[@jacobnmoremi2647]

I wish Jesse could give his take on Astral Projection and Metempsychosis (and his Biblical understanding on these two) as he once said He Speaks to God directly

[@Epic-uh9vq]

No he doesn't lol.

[@olchrystel1]

Wait did he said "Eve went shopping 🛍️"🤦🏼‍♀️😂😂😂

[@troymiller7184]

The answer to the problem is truth and love and to realize man is made in the image of God all men we must respect that Jesus is the example of truth and love

[@mj-zn2tx]

What is love?

[@ChrisWilliams-le1we]

Yup

[@SG-kp5hi]

This man experienced have totally transformed him. God bless his soul. And Tho I like how Jesse get to some of these other people, but Jesse knows how to provoke in a calm way. Lol

[@Peace-iz7gj]

Which is a sin in itself.

[@sediqsimonsthehammondorganist]

What was the documentary that Jesse mentioned?

[@CoolPapaJMagik]

NoWhiteGuilt on the show ASAP!

[@Corinthians--ek4kt]

Pastor Gerald Johnson is right about Secular music: Check out Good Fight Ministries, They sold their soul for rock n roll.

[@tclinch0580]

God created emotions Jesse

[@Falconing89]

The lake of fire is the second hell that awaits anyone who is not saved the first hell is the grave yes where we wait for judgement knowing nothing

[@careyrenner7387]

Jessie finally brought in a guest that isn’t fueled by hate and controlled by Satan.

[@nikkibarnzable]

The award silence is literally cracking me up to tears😂😂😂😂 so how long have you been an angry person? Did you know that anger makes u a woman crickets 🦗 I cannot😂😂😂

[@christopherlynce5008]

Being called is step 1. Development is step 2. All the men in Bible had development.

[@deangiolas9528]

Pastor Gerald is a very nice man. I enjoyed this. Thank you

[@ChrisWilliams-le1we]

He nice

[@monicaposten9561]

The Lord says I suffer not a woman to teach nor have the authority over the man and keep in silence.

[@snakespear-1]

If we treated all evil act's like we do the word "racist", we would be alot better off as a people, title's are made to divide us all against each other, Praise the, Almighty Father!

[@henrycole8705]

I would love black people if they spoke the truth like Jesse

[@henrycole8705]

My fellow Americans either way

[@monicaposten9561]

No the Lord rightly divided the Bible he gives you the anointing and in Matthew he tells you in Matthew 24:7 “For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.” King James Version (KJV

[@Falconing89]

Its written to take him aside and you either gain a brother or you don't

[@jacobnmoremi2647]

"Do you have Anger?" Is such an Ambiguous Question

[@randybeardedge]

No it's not oh by the way do you eat food 😆

[@jacobnmoremi2647]

@@randybeardedge hahaha Very funny

[@ChrisWilliams-le1we]

​@@randybeardedge 🤣🤣🤣

[@scarbo2229]

Can’t be more direct than that.

[@olchrystel1]

As humans and I think it says in the Bible (if you believe in the Bible) Jesus forgave the people who hated Him. it's hard for humans to forgive it depends, but the word "I forgive you" even if the person was wrong is hard.

[@imjustsaying8244]

I believe some of JLP guest don’t know what a troll he is when they agree to be interviewed and they get blindsided. When they’re being interviewed I bet they’re thinking somebody’s getting fired for booking me on this show.

[@jacobnmoremi2647]

I share your sentiment, because some go there thinking they are going to have a conversation and they end up defining words or being subjected to a statement followed by an Ambiguous question I would admit he has toned down significantly compared to when he used to go on a tandem referring to BLM as bunch of of fat....which I found inappropriate, disagreeing with a person not lead to disrespect Jesse is Pro Republican and for him to be personal whenever he refers to Obama and his Wife is still to me his trolling ticket

[@davidkinkaide1467]

Jesse is not a troll and his guests should do their homework before accepting an invitation. It appears to me after watching hundreds of episodes of his shows that Jesse does what he does to get people to really question what they believe and to “know thyself.” I’ve learned a lot from Jesse. I don’t agree with everything he says but he’s opened my eyes to many truths. Jesse is a great interviewer but a horrible interviewee. He dodges questions worse and runs away from questions. Just look up his appearance on the David Pakman show. A disaster for Jesse.

[@randybeardedge]

@@jacobnmoremi2647 this man is a total closet case and you guys take marriage advice from him 😆 🤣

[@imjustsaying8244]

I do believe JPL is a skilled interviewer and is partly being provocative for viewership. I can see that sly gleam in his eye when he knows he’s saying something outrageous to purposefully trigger his guest. I believe he knows some of the things he’s saying are ridiculous. He just sprinkles the ridiculous amongst the rational so it’s hard to agree or refute his assertions.

[@jacobnmoremi2647]

@@imjustsaying8244 I am saddened that he has to get his ratings high through bashing black people in every interview I bet if black folks did great he'd have no show unless he turns and says they got they got successful through I'll gotten manner He is never in his remaining days on earth EVER gonna give black people the props . I have also seen his eyes glistening like a person seeking approval from his producers.

[@Greenlightandgo]

19:35 (this time stamp is my bookmark)

[@JamesJackson-is4fo]

Jesse remind me of Clayton Bigsby

[@john1425]

LOL what did he say the anger does inside of him?

[@dwaynejackson2697]

I’m convinced ye found Jesse’s channel

[@dewey5391]

I wondered the same thing! If so he found it before me

[@mosesa]

Jesse asking if he moved around and how long he was there were to prove if he really went to an otherworldly place.

[@roberormonde]

Chelsea's not always the devil it's the mind of the flesh is not necessary the devil the devil can tempt your flesh to sin

[@anaphylastiks]

It really is amazing the nonsense Jesse comes up with.

[@patientlywatching7775]

Such as, specifically????

[@anaphylastiks]

@@patientlywatching7775 The twisting of scripture.

[@bdulrahim.]

‏سلام عليكم

[@aarronwilson5647]

Jesse playing 4D chess, rest of us playing checkers.

[@Mrs.CGraves]

You can’t judge a entire “group” by the actions of 1. If a person is racist, it isn’t a whole group that is ok with it. Hate is of the devil.

[@MrOgmack321]

The Most High hates though

[@patientlywatching7775]

​@MrOgIsraelite321 Since we are not the most high, we should leave the hating to him and forsake it ourselves.

[@Mrs.CGraves]

@@MrOgmack321 ugh, No. not the same type of Hate. Racism is a hatred of the heart, God hating that SIN is different. Satan is the literal Sin and hate in one’s heart. Don’t be like Satan our Enemy.

[@MrOgmack321]

@@patientlywatching7775 Ecclesiastes 7:7, for the record we can hate as well

[@MrOgmack321]

@@Mrs.CGraves Romans 9:13 and 2nd Esdras 6:56 (both shows that he hates actual people/nations, not some made up Boogeyman called the devil)

[@Mrs.CGraves]

Satan tells anyone that will listen anything to keep you from God. If “Jesus is a white God”, will work for you, you will fall for it, “I’ve sinned too much” you will fall for it, “I can’t keep commands” no you can’t, without The Holy Spirit’s transformation. What do you have to lose? Repent today. Before it’s too late.

[@kamargear8908]

I thought the Bible says that no one goes that have it or hell until the rapture and he resurrects mankind cuz crazy thank you it also says that the devil rose the earth like a roaring line looking for someone to devour so he's not even in hell

[@F_L_A_Bird]

Breaking bread 💕💕⚔️

[@pamelawhite5036]

All men need to listen to Jesse ... to many Beta men Thank you Jesse for putting out truth. 🙏❤ praying for the Great White Hope 😉🙏

[@tclinch0580]

Is Jesse your God?

[@monicaposten9561]

So the world is stuck in their ways but that didn't stop the apostles they tried to kill them but still stuck to the spreading of the word

[@jonf.3918]

If God doesn't speak to you who told Moses to remove his shoes when he was in front of the burning bush?

[@TshepoMotale-zq9sd]

Jesse said humans dont have a free will .So how does mothers impose her will to her children

[@monicaposten9561]

Jeremiah 5 30A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land; the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

[@yiosembomtangwa8615]

BeyonZee and Rianna

[@steviet3995]

Where does Jesse get his theology from, amazing!. Pastor Gerald was right in saying, thats not in the Bible. Jesse doesn't teach biblical Salvation. Jesus said repent ye, and believe the gospel. His teaching is nonsense & is not from the Lord. And if its not from the Lord, it's from the devil.

[@TshepoMotale-zq9sd]

Jesse love God even when he things God brought him to hell (earth)

[@christhegreek4889]

Funny thing, in early Christianity women had an active role in preaching (like Maria Magdalene) and they were trully respected. There should be love and mutual respect between sexes. Nobody is above from each other. Only God is

[@MrOgmack321]

In Christianity, not the Bible, The Most High instructed the woman to keep quiet in the church

[@christhegreek4889]

@@MrOgmack321 for you to believe now and be a Christian, these people were the founders. There's no love in not believing in equality

[@MrOgmack321]

@@christhegreek4889 first I ain't a "christian" I'm a bloodline Israelite and we are the chosen of The Most High, Genesis 3:16 and 1st Corinthians 11:3-4 trumps your equality nonsense, in the old and the new testament

[@christhegreek4889]

@@MrOgmack321 Oh I see. I forgive you for your anger. God bless you brother.

[@Corinthians--ek4kt]

👆Repent and Believe the Gospel... JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY WAY

[@roberormonde]

TLC are you trying to make him angry

[@kamargear8908]

Got to be careful The devil gives you visions too

[@ministerkareemc]

This ninja said he went to hell and he saw Jesus! Testilying and biblically not sound!

[@mpm7338]

JESUS HAD NO WEMON DECIPLEs.. JLP is right amen

[@lionofjudah3480]

Probably best for Jesse use scripture to back what's said.

[@jonesy786]

Jesse the gospel of the original teachings I believe there was only tan an dark people so race was never represented. Humans then evolved other race become. And that's when man on earth became separated by color. My point is that racism does exist.

[@brothersamuel100]

*LOL* 😂

[@jonjon3719]

Who doesnt get angry?

[@jabrockobiden9434]

Jesse

[@jacobnmoremi2647]

Jesse is slick in that he plays with the WORD Anger instead of Angry to elongate an argument versus debating the source of the Anger Not too sure if Jesse is not torn between Bitterness and Anger as an instant reaction to a situation.

[@gregoryderosa8045]

I don't get angry AT ALL

[@makhimlonyeni8252]

"Expose the evil of it, and hope that they may see what they are doing."... Jesse summed up his whole agenda in one sentence here. And blacks still miss his point...

[@thecalataylorhudujhufdfujh4128]

Why people can't seem to explain to this man what Racism is

[@71suezqz]

The soul of a woman was created below

[@71suezqz]

@blobmonster9494 nope it's Zeppelinical

[@jacobnmoremi2647]

Attributing societal problem to a mother imposing her WILL on children English is not my first language and I therefore struggle with Jesse talking about "Earthly Father" Jesse always insists on Forgiving your mother, even when his guests say they harbour no anger he will still would insist on the mother's biblical transgression

[@randybeardedge]

He hates women

[@liecrusher3506]

The examples that Jesse gives ("Don't talk back to me!") is bad, for she is the mother and deserves that respect. What happens is that there gets to be a point in a male's life (and actually the mother's, as she reaches menopause), where such rankles and castrates him.

[@jacobnmoremi2647]

@@liecrusher3506 I was also surprised how Jesse in not so many words told his Guest that the voice you hear aren't Gods but the devil. At times I feel like the Devil is given too much credit. Jesse was telling his guest that what he says about the dream, is that he was actually talking to the devil.

[@jacobnmoremi2647]

@@liecrusher3506 I was also surprised how Jesse in not so many words told his Guest that the voice you hear aren't Gods but the devil. At times I feel like the Devil is given too much credit

[@erickgregoire9616]

Now I truly understand why Mr Peterson continue to ask such questions. The majority is focused on the title(Racism) as opposed to the true nature of the action(Evil). Such method devised by Satan is clever;if the majority is focused on the title than the nature, then an individual is not able to over come do to the fact that the lords power simply won’t manifest because the spiritual ignorance has become the problematic normal state… thus contributing to maintains the fallen state of man!!!!!!!!