Pastor John Kilpatrick Addresses Alcohol Within the Body of Christ

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@MathildaMann
@MathildaMann 6 ай бұрын
Finally some preacher has the courage to speak out on this topic. Can't agree more with what he says!!!! Nobody needs alcohol in their lives!
@bigfish8473
@bigfish8473 6 ай бұрын
When you put something in your body that changes how you act and the way that you think and make decisions. It is definitely toxic. And Christ definitely doesn't want that for his people.
@saxmanjpr5092
@saxmanjpr5092 6 ай бұрын
So then also stop drinking soda that might give you diabetes, hypocrite!
@neilmccall5311
@neilmccall5311 6 ай бұрын
I don't need alcohol. There again I don't need chocolate, biscuits, TV dancing shows and a whole host of other things. But I LIKE alcohol in moderation.
@MathildaMann
@MathildaMann 6 ай бұрын
@@neilmccall5311 None of the items you mentioned has the same potential for causing devastation if abused. No need to risk it.
@saxmanjpr5092
@saxmanjpr5092 6 ай бұрын
@@MathildaMann BULL! Chocolate could give you diabetes, Biscuits have carbs, that might caused you to wain excessive weight. Dont "Christians" think that dancing is a sin? "No need to risk it." Right? smh
@MTknitter22
@MTknitter22 7 ай бұрын
This not being addressed from Sunday pulpits is WHY so many Christian kids drink and feel nothing is wrong with it. Thank you Pastor!
@mikemuncy7464
@mikemuncy7464 7 ай бұрын
This was good but this man is not a Pastor!!!
@neilmccall5311
@neilmccall5311 6 ай бұрын
Because of course there is nothing wrong with drinking in moderation and preaching should be used for far more important issues.
@BindeTheFoxes
@BindeTheFoxes 5 ай бұрын
​@@neilmccall5311 Please remember that to do the most important thing in your daily walk with the Lord, you have to be sober minded. It doesn't help that it is not wrong in itself, but it is a major distraction from doing small things that are pleasing to the Lord. .
@Maga2024lul
@Maga2024lul 5 ай бұрын
The Bible is clear. Drinking is NOT A sin or prohibited. Drunkenness clearly is and that's it. I personally hate it but it doesn't matter what I think.
@carolynmonahan5086
@carolynmonahan5086 18 күн бұрын
@@mikemuncy7464not a pastor? Hmm. He is a good one.
@linsval
@linsval 7 ай бұрын
It's a sad day in history when people think your strange if you don't drink alcohol. I have never drank and never will. I believe God has led me in this way!
@clelladams2326
@clelladams2326 6 ай бұрын
And you would be correct.
@foxgwen1441
@foxgwen1441 7 ай бұрын
Yes, be filled with the Holy Spirit!! Thank you Pastor!!
@JamesMorton-hf3xb
@JamesMorton-hf3xb 6 ай бұрын
I'm on day #47 of quitting. I cannot possibly put into words hiw much I feel without alcohol. Even took off 17 lbs in those 47 days... Thank you Lord!🙌
@mwalker3547
@mwalker3547 6 ай бұрын
Praise the Lord!! That's awesome.
@MathildaMann
@MathildaMann 6 ай бұрын
Well done! Keep it up.
@dalehood1846
@dalehood1846 6 ай бұрын
@JamesMorton, Stay strong, you are on the right path. In January 1996 I made the decision for sobriety. I won't tell you your path will be easy. You have made a decision in your life, stick with it and don't look back. You WILL NOT BE SORRY. Talk to a Christian pastor or friend. Many pastors have gone to school for counseling. Play this man's video again from time to time. Remove yourself from situations where you might be tempted to relapse. Even one drink is a backwards step. Don't go out with someone if you think they will be drinking. It will make it seem like it's alright for you to drink. Read your BIBLE, draw strength from that. Many counseling groups are free if you feel like you need strength. All the best and may God bless.
@elizabeth4hope
@elizabeth4hope 6 ай бұрын
God has been dealing with me about wine & medical Marijuana- Please pray for me, Pastor. Thank you for the message!!! ❤
@Blindfaith-i7c
@Blindfaith-i7c 6 ай бұрын
Praise the Lord Pastor keep praching the TRUTH.
@pops6479
@pops6479 6 ай бұрын
As a fellow preacher, I am very concerned at the manner in which this brother approaches his subject. All must be to the Scriptures, "To the Law and to the Testimony, if they speak not according to this Word, it is because there is no light in them." (Isaiah 8:20) His exegesis of Scripture is extremely poor; and the selectiveness of the Scriptures employed to put his case runs contrary to the main body of teaching on this subject in Scripture. At 0:47-0:58 our brother as a pastor extols his anti-alcohol stance. The common understanding is that this is a mark of Spiritual strength, however, Romans 14 teaches in the clearest terms (besides other things) the weak brother drinks only water, i.e. no alcohol. From 1:13-1:28 our brother highlights those who will not enter the Kingdom of Elohim, including drunkards. From there to 2:29 we are given an irrelevant list of societal consequences caused by drink...However, I believe an honest assessment of these figures would refer to drunkenness, and 'problem drinking'; it is not simply drinking which causes these maladies in society. Returning to 1 Corinthians 6:10, drunkards (Strong's 3183/4) means 'a sot' meaning, 'to drink to intoxication'. A 'sot' is 'a habitual drunkard'. (The Concise English Dictionary) At this point (through to 3:54) our brother then goes on to use the analogy of a disease. The real problem at this point is the obfuscation of alcoholism with alcohol (deliberate or not). Let me be clear: I do NOT hold that alcoholism is a disease - it is a lack of self-control in the same way as chambering, or ADHD et cetera. However, using John Kilpatrick's analogy, it is alcoholism which is the 'disease' and not the alcohol itself. I affirm this: Drunkenness is a sin, but drink is not. At 4:40-4:45 a slight misquoting of Scripture is applied to strengthen his anti-drink case. "Be not drunk with wine WHEREIN IS EXCESS..." This is not the same as denoting drink itself, or having a casual drink as being an error. Self-control is the key in this passage. If we lay aside self-control, we will be softened to engage in rebellion/debauchery. (Original Aramaic/Peshitta New Testament) Therefore, there is a very serious warning against loss of self-control; but no warning against drink itself. It is poor exegesis not to rightly divide the Word of Truth. Let me say this: I do agree with brother Kilpatrick that the Spirit of Elohiym should be our Comforter, and not the bottle! (4:45-4:49) Likewise, that the Almighty considers drunkenness a sin. (5:04) Brother John is also right at 6:00-6:08 to declare the Spiritual well-being of the flock is his concern. However, at 0:26-0:34, he makes it clear that no-one in his congregation, or following the livestream is entitled to tell him what his job is. Well, the job of a pastor is to preach the Truth as it is found in the WORD, not to take bits to suit his own conviction - our convictions must be subject to the WORD. Nonetheless, as stated earlier, I am a preacher, an elder, and preach the WORD every week. Thus, in the words of the Scriptures (1 Co 14:32), "And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets." It is the incumbent duty of all ministers of the WORD to admonish their fellow-labourers where error, or unscriptural teaching is being put forward. Therefore, I am concerned at the foregoing points as their is a lack of sound Scriptural exegesis and teaching on the issue. Brother Kilpatrick declares he has a conviction and, regrettably, it is that conviction which he wishes to prove by any means rather than seek to uphold the full teaching of Scripture on drink. However, I am gravely concerned at his turn of focus from 6:26-6:41 whereupon he turns the screw and comes close to shepherding with the threat of hell (a lost eternity) if you don't obey his (John Klpatrick's) word, "If you reject what I'm trying to tell you...if you reject it and do die and go to hell, or become an alcoholic...its going to be against everything, its going to go against everything I've tried to tell you." If you have borne with me thus far, may it please the Almighty (YAHUAH) to favour you and make His face shine upon you. I have not presented the case for the appropriate place of alcohol (wine particularly) in the believing body - that is for another post. I would have all understand my concern is NOT to denigrate brother Kilpatrick but rather to point out the inconsistencies which exist in the anti-drink rhetoric which is presented as the 'gold standard' of righteousness. Elohiym is against drunkenness and lack of self-control.
@josephwood6905
@josephwood6905 Ай бұрын
Been alcohol free since 1/1/96. Don’t regret it at all!! ✝️ All Glory to Jesus!! ✝️
@kathyhiggs5239
@kathyhiggs5239 7 ай бұрын
AWESOME WORD
@Yankster1978
@Yankster1978 7 ай бұрын
I’m an alcoholic with 8 years sobriety….. I’m also a Christian…. Jesus delivered me from this Demon….This man speaks the truth…
@lovereigns4017
@lovereigns4017 7 ай бұрын
Yes, clay but you were addicted. So a door to the devil was open. You HAD to stop drinking. Those who can take all things in moderation and are not addicted are free. It was for freedom, Christ has set us free.
@Yankster1978
@Yankster1978 7 ай бұрын
The door is cracked before it’s opened…. “In moderation” is just an excuse people say to avoid the truth. Nobody just becomes an alcoholic. You are not a sober person after having one drink.
@lovereigns4017
@lovereigns4017 7 ай бұрын
@@Yankster1978 so, let me get this right. You're saying Jesus was an alcoholic?
@Yankster1978
@Yankster1978 7 ай бұрын
@@lovereigns4017 one question…… would you share the gospel with a person while having a drink?
@lovereigns4017
@lovereigns4017 6 ай бұрын
@@Yankster1978 Well, not if intoxicated of course not. It's about telling the truth. Jesus, in the act of communion, broke bread and drank wine with His disciples. We must not strain out gnats and swallow camels. I do not advocate nor condone drunkenness but I won't be a legalist and say alcohol is evil. Nothing is, if utilised in faith.
@markmcginnis4737
@markmcginnis4737 7 ай бұрын
To walk in God's Spirit, you can't walk in those spirits. The two don't mix like a cocktail. I drank a little bit here and there as a believer. Justifying it, that I didn't get drunk. Finally, 6 years ago, I was convicted by the Lord and decided to quit altogether. I've never missed it.
@tonithetigrress
@tonithetigrress 7 ай бұрын
Amen I Agree Pastor! God Bless 🙏
@SachelleCambria
@SachelleCambria 6 ай бұрын
If we are not allowed to drink alcohol, someone has to explain Jesus turning water into wine at a wedding. We should not get drunk but there’s nothing wrong with having a drink.
@mre6227-uk4zo
@mre6227-uk4zo 7 ай бұрын
Pastors need to also talk about christians smoking weed.
@clelladams2326
@clelladams2326 6 ай бұрын
It's funny, but it's also sad. It you only knew which "Christian singers and song writers " got inspired from smoking weed.
@prmath
@prmath 6 ай бұрын
Let’m try and sneak their precious weed past Saint Peter at the Gate……. (I think NOT)
@clelladams2326
@clelladams2326 6 ай бұрын
@@prmath LOL St. Peter at the gate? i understand the humour. it's just like the alcohol - it can't go to heaven.
@chosen2865
@chosen2865 3 ай бұрын
I believe drinking alcohol hinders my witness, for that reason I choose not to partake
@robschannel4512
@robschannel4512 6 ай бұрын
I know a pastor of a large Church, maybe the larges Church in Calvert County. He has been drunk in board meetings in his Church. I use to like a beer now and then but, my wife hates alcohol so I do not drink and haven't for a long time. I think now that things that dull your mind hurt your ability to hear the Still small voice of God.
@karengeers3338
@karengeers3338 7 ай бұрын
I love you Pastor Kilpatrick. This message is soooooo needed in the body of Christ. ✡️✝️🩸🔥
@DaveInCanada081
@DaveInCanada081 7 ай бұрын
Gabriel Swaggart has an amazing sermon on alcohol as well. This is an important topic.
@markdalton3900
@markdalton3900 7 ай бұрын
He is sooo anointed! I met him in Florida,such a wonderful person.
@bonniechampagne2992
@bonniechampagne2992 7 ай бұрын
Holy Spirit convicted me very early in my walk with Him in 1982...praise God I have not drank alvo alcohol hil in 42 years....I got the new wine.
@following-Jesus
@following-Jesus 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for giving a strong biblical word on this controversial topic. Blessings on you!🕊️
@jezusfreak1234
@jezusfreak1234 7 ай бұрын
NO! Stay away from the mere appearance of evil. Drinking is not a sin. But drunkenness, is a sin. You can also be the source of someone else falling into sin
@neobailey5268
@neobailey5268 7 ай бұрын
Alcohol is death
@SachelleCambria
@SachelleCambria 6 ай бұрын
Some of the people who claim they don’t drink are overweight, gluttony is a sin, having a drink is not.
@dianedavenport9532
@dianedavenport9532 7 ай бұрын
This has been on my mind and heart for a long time. Thank you for addressing this topic. I stay away from alcohol, my family has a history of alcoholism. I want to be obedient to God's word also. Thank you again.
@neobailey5268
@neobailey5268 7 ай бұрын
Alcohol has killed more people than cancer
@toddnetland366
@toddnetland366 7 ай бұрын
Good word, Pastor John!!! Everybody should read David Wilkerson's "Sipping Saints." I hate alcohol, put another diamond in Dave Wilkerson's crown.
@AprilnRandy310
@AprilnRandy310 6 ай бұрын
I’ve always been taught it was wrong,but i have seen in Timothy that it says have a little wine for your stomachs sake,and your often infermities,so to me that doesn’t say just once,and in the Old Testament it says in my words if someone is dying and I’d guess in pain,to drink strong drink,and the family and friends around this person to have some wine for their sadness maybe? These scriptures are-proverbs 31:6 31:7. Ephesians 5:18. Timothy 5:23, I see several things but it almost always says something like,not given to much wine,which to me says in moderation only.
@yvettemartinez6896
@yvettemartinez6896 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the message my dad was an alcoholic and he was so mean when he was drunk ,he died at the age of 60 because he threw up his liver in the house April of 1990 he past away June of 1990 we suffered so much because of his drinking.
@dresdondill3908
@dresdondill3908 7 ай бұрын
So sorry.
@Parfait-zi4wd
@Parfait-zi4wd 6 ай бұрын
The Bible never condamned drinking for the Saints of the Church of Grace. But excess, both of eating and drinking. So if simply drinking is a sin, so is eating too.
@romo0012
@romo0012 7 ай бұрын
7 years sober! All glory to the Lord! Drank heavily for 20+ years. Was accepting my destiny of death by alcohol and drugs by the age of 40. Thank you, Lord, for hearing my cries and setting me free!
@janepizalli373
@janepizalli373 7 ай бұрын
Thank you Pastor John for clearing up this confusing issue for many! ❤️😀🙏
@Sara-zm3gr
@Sara-zm3gr 7 ай бұрын
100% agree
@janefrench5401
@janefrench5401 7 ай бұрын
This is a message that should not in any way b controversial among Christians who claim to b spirit filled and blood bought. What an insult to the Holy Ghost. What an offense to Jesus who shed His blood. We are a blood bought church and our lives need to reflect holiness without which no man shall see God. My father was a drunkard and it started w the first drink. He was a raging drunk, destroyed his family, his children, his wife, his finances, and he died a very tragic death. Alcohol consumption produces corruption and nothing more.
@kayperry6157
@kayperry6157 7 ай бұрын
Well said.
@clelladams2326
@clelladams2326 6 ай бұрын
YOu mentioned the taboo word of holiness.
@adrioosthuizen6535
@adrioosthuizen6535 6 ай бұрын
I will not drink alcohol... I ama child of God
@saxmanjpr5092
@saxmanjpr5092 6 ай бұрын
That then just mean that God is not Jesus' father since he drank wine.
@scotthubble7177
@scotthubble7177 7 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the sermon and statistics on 'eating' You eat, you may not be a glutton You drink, you may not be a drunk Drunkeness is a sin. So is overeating. What's your BMI?
@mahlonriehl7990
@mahlonriehl7990 7 ай бұрын
I have never heard of someone beating their spouse or hurting people because they ate too much🤔
@abebenns7944
@abebenns7944 6 ай бұрын
I don’t alcohol and have no intention to drink, however I had my last one in 1989. Preach it brother!
@prmath
@prmath 6 ай бұрын
Some people … after becoming a Christian completely lose the taste for alcohol🤷🤷🤷… I did
@clelladams2326
@clelladams2326 6 ай бұрын
God delivers people from alcohol all the time. Funny that..
@KM-zn3lx
@KM-zn3lx 6 ай бұрын
I did, but then I started again. I gave up cigarettes and stuck with it. Pray for us who struggle some with this. Pray we stay strong in Christ. I don't party but I drink now and then. Yet it affects me more with age.
@clelladams2326
@clelladams2326 6 ай бұрын
@KM-zn3lx there is always deliverance in Jesus and the Word. If you get enough of the Word I side you it will drive out alcohol and anything else that hinders or binds you. Yes, Amen.
@Rllasley
@Rllasley 6 ай бұрын
Great Comment 👍...Exactly..Alcohol NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED...Great video...Great words! God spoke through you Pastor...
@lindamcfall4598
@lindamcfall4598 6 ай бұрын
Praise God I needed to hear this bless you 🙏
@iandonald8141
@iandonald8141 7 ай бұрын
From 18 to 28 I worked hard I drank and partied hard. I came to the realisation that if I kept going on the path that I was on that I would be dead before I got to 40. Fortunately I received the gospel and accepted Jesus as my LORD and Saviour. The one thing that blew me away was the similarity of the true peace and joy of the Lord and the temporary peace that came as I proceeded on the pathway to getting drunk. The thought that I had been paying to get a limited peace only to be followed by a shocker of a hangover the next day 😬 I have refused to touch it for 42 years. To me it would be an insult to Father Son and Holy Spirit!!!
@patriciawalden9750
@patriciawalden9750 7 ай бұрын
We do not drink praise the Lord you preach it pastor
@rev.jimwalton9383
@rev.jimwalton9383 6 ай бұрын
Awesome message Brother!
@Leatherwoodoutdoors
@Leatherwoodoutdoors 6 ай бұрын
Alcohol is not a disease. I'm going to drink a beer to the Glory of God. Drunkenness is a sin.
@MaryDavisMeile
@MaryDavisMeile 7 ай бұрын
Very good Pastor.
@donnaw8651
@donnaw8651 28 күн бұрын
Absolute Truth!
@leighcotter4337
@leighcotter4337 6 ай бұрын
When god speaks we should listen
@pammentzer3584
@pammentzer3584 7 ай бұрын
Important to note: Both Kings and the Priesthood were commanded never to drink. In 1st Peter 2:9, we are called a "Royal Priesthood, a holy nation, a people belonging to God, that you may declare the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvel light." Wisdom would be to avoid alchohol completely. As my wise Father in-law used to say, "I don't drink, because I might like it too much."
@BinaryPun
@BinaryPun 6 ай бұрын
Meanwhile God incarnate drank.
@clelladams2326
@clelladams2326 6 ай бұрын
@@BinaryPun only he didn't drink alcohol.
@chericlayton8772
@chericlayton8772 7 ай бұрын
I have watched alcohol destroy so many lives.People get into the car and drive drunk and cause many deaths from car accidents.What good comes from drinking alcohol?
@hsandra23
@hsandra23 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely No, alcohol has no place in the life of a Christian,The Bible says our body is the temple of the Holy Ghost .Drinking is sin.
@marshabufkin7367
@marshabufkin7367 6 ай бұрын
How does a person defile the temple of God? You can't just make things up. The Bible is very clear on this. I Corinthians 3:17 says, "If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are." To understand the mechanics of that process you look back to Mark 7:15-23 where it says that it's not what goes into a person that defiles them, but what comes out of their mouth. What is in a persons heart will eventually come out their mouth. Using your line of thought, if it is those things from outside a person that are/or could be physically harmful which enters them that defiles them, then you need to start a list of all harmful, or possibly harmful food, drink, or activities. Then you must avoid everything on your list. One example might be welding. When an arc/stick welder strikes and arc, there are 30 to 40 different gasses and chemical particles released into the air. Many of those gasses and chemical particles can be quite harmful if breathed over long periods of time. How many other foods, drinks, and activities would be on your list? Sounds like the Old Testament Law doesn't it? You know, a list of do's and don'ts. We become righteous when we see, smell, taste, hear, touch, and do only the things on the approved list and avoid all the things on the 'Oh no, you blew it' list. Honestly, I think you don't understand that the heart and soul of religion is going through the motions of the approved physical activity list, while true spirituality if first and foremost about the depth of intimacy with our heavenly Father.
@melbawoods6513
@melbawoods6513 7 ай бұрын
This is an excellent message, I love to hear him speak ❤️ 👏
@susingcordero6979
@susingcordero6979 5 ай бұрын
I have nothing to say except alcohol is very bad tnk U
@loisb8041
@loisb8041 7 ай бұрын
God speaks along these lines…. Jesus is our deliverer…. God will deliver us, if we turn away from it…. Thank you for telling the truth
@dianewhitlock1917
@dianewhitlock1917 7 ай бұрын
Thanks pastor John❤
@mahlonriehl7990
@mahlonriehl7990 7 ай бұрын
For those in the comments section that are trying to divert the topic and comparing it to gluttony. I would ask, do people beat their wives, cause car wrecks, rape, murder because of eating too much?
@clelladams2326
@clelladams2326 6 ай бұрын
99% of people don't have a clue what gluttony is. But 'muh alcohol!" They love to drink and feel the buzz. They are addicted and don't know it. The devil isn't stupid, even though he really is. He's clever. He knows he can't turn every 'drinker' into an alcoholic stumbling around puking and laying in the gutter. So they all say, "it will never happen to me. I can handle it. Until they can't.
@mwalker3547
@mwalker3547 6 ай бұрын
Great point.
@regenawilliams9629
@regenawilliams9629 7 ай бұрын
Jesus did turn the water in to wine. It was His first miracle! It took place at a wedding feast. However, I would never take a drink of any kind in front of a person who has a problem with alcohol. It would be a stumbling block to that person!
@daviddietrich4961
@daviddietrich4961 7 ай бұрын
Thank you or the truth!!!
@nylonwinston7325
@nylonwinston7325 7 ай бұрын
AMEN,AMEN, AMEN Praise The LORD ❤
@donnawood271
@donnawood271 6 ай бұрын
Thank you, Jesus for a true man of God that is in ashamed of the Bible and what it states that man tears the Lord, you get a pastor that fears the Lord he’s gonna be walking the walk, not saying perfect this man and I’ve had the honor of meeting him firsthand at a conference And he was pretty awesome on what he preached on and he preached on things that we say about our children that you’ll never amount anything or anything negative and the Holy Spirit corrected him on that and he had to go to his children and apologize and speak over their lives. That was very powerful.
@priscillaa.7705
@priscillaa.7705 6 ай бұрын
Clearly drinking with the intention of altering your mind aka being drunk is absolutely a sin. Having a glass of wine with some seafood or Italian food isn’t that. Having A beer with a steak dinner isn’t setting out to get altered. So although rare, I would argue that there are many ppl and even many cultures , where it is customary to include a great glass of vino with their meal and it’s as innocent as a slice of buttered bread. Don’t seek drunkenness and I think you’ll be alright.
@deborahkaye1882
@deborahkaye1882 7 ай бұрын
One needs to read Dave Wilkerson's book 'Sipping Saints'. He discusses that during the time of Jesus there were 2 different types of wine. One was a sweet wine - nonalcoholic. The other was with alcohol. Jewish weddings during Jesus' time lasted for several days. Being God in the flesh why would He go against the Word Pastor just discussed (there are more) and turn wine into the one with alcohol? He wouldn't and that's why it was said that the 'best was saved until the last'. One needs to understand the Jewish history which Jesus was one as well as the Word to understand the meaning. Studying the Jewish Roots opens up a lot of insight into the deception perpetrated on the 'church' and others. Romans 12:21 discusses not causing one to stumble. Calling oneself a 'Christian', drinking and/or getting drunk can cause another stumble from children to adults.
@jameslong5139
@jameslong5139 6 ай бұрын
NO ! No alcohol ..
@zerosoma33
@zerosoma33 5 ай бұрын
If I’m indeed in sin, please pray for me. I love craft beer, and I have a can every other night or so. I don’t generally get drunk and it’s very rarely my aim. I also have non alcoholic beer that I’ll drink on occasion. I like the taste. I don’t want opinions because everyone has them - just prayers for me because I want to be found faithful when He comes. Thank you brothers and sisters.
@hellonewbeginnings9659
@hellonewbeginnings9659 5 ай бұрын
I will pray for you! I get it on so many levels. ❤️🙏
@Bobepc
@Bobepc 4 ай бұрын
A Christian should *never* get drunk, ever. The Bible is very clear about that. If you are periodically getting drunk you need to repent and forsake that sin. You will not be found faithful if you are dabbling in drunkenness.
@zerosoma33
@zerosoma33 4 ай бұрын
@@Bobepc dabbling is not the word sir Also I asked for no opinions, even though you may think you're not spouting an opinion. You still disrespected my wishes. I'll bet you're from an Assembly of God church too. No grace, no prayer, no love - just a bunch of barking orders and the clanging of a Agazarian.
@marshabufkin7367
@marshabufkin7367 6 ай бұрын
I'm 70 years old. I cut my teeth on an old time Assembly of God pentecostal pew. (Back when the Assembly of God had something; how far the mighty have fallen.) I received the Holy Ghost with the initial evidence of speaking in other tongues February 3, 1970. I appreciate this Brothers true pastoral spirit. But, in the mid-1980's while attending college using my Vietnam Era education benefits, I learned about the scientific method. I don't believe every thing science says. For example, I do believe in the big bang, but not the way scientist describe it. I believe it happened when God said, "Let there be..." Yea, that was the real big bang. But I'm a strong believer in the scientific method. That knowledge has actually helped me in my study of Gods word. This short video is a great example. Deuteronomy 14:22-29 explains about the second tithe the Jewish people had to pay; yea, tithes for the Jewish people was 20%, not 10% like I was raised to believe. The first tithe was in Numbers 18:20-32. The scientific method requires a honest lover of truth to not 'cherry pick' the evidence. The truth, the whole council of God, is what will set a person free. God told the Jewish people that in order to pay this 2nd tithe, they could actually use ten percent of their increase to buy and consume wine or strong drink. These two examples, tithes and adult beverages, are just two examples of the things I've discovered that I never heard when growing up in old time Pentecost. It grieves my heart when I think back across the years about all the preachers I've heard telling their saints they are going to hell if they don't give ten percent of their income to the church, and the only Biblical reference they used was one Old Testament reference in Malachi. It's the same with alcohol. Their are many Biblical examples of God giving His permission for the moderated consumption of wine and/or strong drink. Not as a life style, but in moderation.
@texas7123
@texas7123 5 ай бұрын
I love to have wine with my dinner. Brothers and sisters please don’t judge me. I am not a drunkard. God bless you my family. Waiting on the trumpet to sound !!!!!
@XoxoMoot
@XoxoMoot 4 ай бұрын
You're willing to miss the call because you can't give up wine? You sound like the young rich man that heard the word and was excited to follow Jesus until he was told to go and sell ALL of his possessions and come follow .....he walked away sad because he could not give up EVERYTHING to follow Jesus!
@celes7210
@celes7210 3 ай бұрын
Jesus drank wine, and he said he will have it again in his Father’s new kingdom. Jesus made wine for a wedding. The disciples had wine. The person that posted this said they drink it with dinner and aren’t a drunk. I wonder what you would have told Jesus after he turned the water into wine so people could drink it. 🤔
@Robert-l9s9k
@Robert-l9s9k 4 ай бұрын
Jesus drank wine and liked it. And at a party he saved the very best for last.
@XoxoMoot
@XoxoMoot 4 ай бұрын
So you just gone straight face lie on Jesus?
@Robert-l9s9k
@Robert-l9s9k 4 ай бұрын
@@XoxoMoot Uh, no. Jesus drank wine - just as everyone else did during that time. There were a few Jewish sects and cult of Jesus's time - like the Essenes - that forbade drinking wine if I remember right.
@randymyhre3315
@randymyhre3315 3 ай бұрын
He definitely telling the truth. Jesus did drink wine just didn't get drunk. Several scriptures that show he dis indeed drink wine. Iam not bashing folks that don't just saying it's not bad if you have self control like anything else in life. He spoke at the last super and told his deciples that he wouldn't drink again until he returns. He turned the water into wine. Would it not be hypocritical if the spotless lamb gave wine to people ?
@randallclose6264
@randallclose6264 3 ай бұрын
Then explain why the Scriptures saying drunkenness and wine drinking is a sin. If you think Jesus used drugs (alcohol) you are seriously wrong.
@XoxoMoot
@XoxoMoot 3 ай бұрын
@@Robert-l9s9k Where does it say that he actually drank wine?
@LisaJack-1969
@LisaJack-1969 7 ай бұрын
This is the truth! My husband and I were told by an apostle, and then our pastor that it was OK for us to have something to drink in our home. That opened an awful season of about 6 years! Christian liberties has no place in the life of a disciple.
@jaguardog
@jaguardog 7 ай бұрын
Right
@yolandahutchinson845
@yolandahutchinson845 7 ай бұрын
Amen!
@tedrussell902
@tedrussell902 6 ай бұрын
I have listened to this argument for decades, and I have come to this conclusion, looking at the Word. People are gonna do what they wanna do and they will make excuses to do what they wanna do and they will interpret scripture to make it say what they want to say, regardless of the subject. You had better filter the Bible through the Holy Spirit who is your teacher and get your flesh out of the way!
@clelladams2326
@clelladams2326 6 ай бұрын
But God still holds me responsible to shed light on the subject. Preachers are derelict in their duty if they do not teach this. Always start with the most plain scripture concerning a subject or doctrine. Then interpret harder to discern by the PLAIN scripture. Proverbs 23:31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.
@lorribondurant9217
@lorribondurant9217 7 ай бұрын
I’ve heard missionaries that have gone overseas , especially to Italy, and the Christians drink wine regularly with their evening meal. The Americans were having a hard time with it. Yet the Italian Christians were upset with the American women for wearing pants. Of course, the Bible uses the term drunkard and not everyone who drinks is a drunkard. In 1 Timothy 3:8 it talks about deacons not indulging in “much” wine. In 1 Timothy 5:23 it talks about using a little wine for the stomach. I personally don’t drink because I feel it’s a bad witness, but I don’t have a problem with a person having a glass of wine 🍷 occasionally. When I say occasionally I mean 2-3 times a year. The problem is that a lot of Americans, including Christians, don’t have any restraint or self control when it comes to alcohol.
@OyiksAlfred
@OyiksAlfred 6 ай бұрын
Drinking is not necessarily a sin. But like he said. Everyone who drinks is a potential alcoholic. Plus from statistics, you see that alcohol is bad
@pops6479
@pops6479 6 ай бұрын
That is what the 'pastor' said - but what do the Scriptures teach? Nowhere does the Almighty (YAHUAH) suggest that anyone who drinks is a potential alcoholic. Always to the Scriptures rightly divided, not the opinions or convictions of men.
@saxmanjpr5092
@saxmanjpr5092 6 ай бұрын
and you eating "has the potential" of making you obese, so I guess you're going to move to Ethiopia and starve to death, right?
@e.apollis2877
@e.apollis2877 6 ай бұрын
Even Jesus made wine!
@SachelleCambria
@SachelleCambria 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. Some people lack self-control and shouldn’t drink, it doesn’t make it bad.
@MTknitter22
@MTknitter22 7 ай бұрын
I think pastors are slowly getting back to standing up in the pulpit and addressing all these cultural things that are destroying lives and helping people go to Hell. Gambling is what I want to hear discussed. My Dad was addicted to it his whole life.
@clelladams2326
@clelladams2326 6 ай бұрын
oh my goodness. Are there even 100 preachers in the USA that can teach against it from the Scripture?
@saxmanjpr5092
@saxmanjpr5092 6 ай бұрын
It someone is addicted to anything, that is the problem. I go to Las Vegas once a year, but I know my limits. So there is a HUGE difference.
@clelladams2326
@clelladams2326 6 ай бұрын
@@saxmanjpr5092 1 sin is all it takes to keep you out of heaven. But maybe you listened to Kenny Rogers a few too many times. 🤔
@melissabowman7
@melissabowman7 19 күн бұрын
I never drank and never plan to bc I have a strong conviction in my spirit not to! 🙏
@suzannewirsching1989
@suzannewirsching1989 2 ай бұрын
Amen Lord ❤️
@skutahajzi4763
@skutahajzi4763 6 ай бұрын
Die Leute Heutzutage wissen nicht was sie wollen. Ich bin mir sehr sicher sobald die Entrückung stattgefunden hat, Werden viele sich wünschen so eine Predigt gehört zu haben. Ich mein Jetzt nicht generell nur wegen Alkohol sondern wegen vieler Sünden oder Fehler die uns von Jesus Trennen. Ich bin selbst erst 40 Jahre alt und seit 20 Jahren im Glauben und ich wünschte es gäbe mehr solche Männer Gottes In dieser zeit. Wir sollten solche pastoren nicht Als Anstößig sehen sondern als einen liebenden Vater durch den Jesus spricht
@JulianDayanan
@JulianDayanan 5 ай бұрын
The 1st miracle he made in windding day celibration
@chillizora
@chillizora 7 ай бұрын
I think you are right. I got a strong conviction to not drink. Even though i dont consider myself a drinker. However occasionally i like to have a glass of of wine or aperol. However i am dizzy mostly after one glass already. But thank god i have no relation to alkohol at all
@DaveInCanada081
@DaveInCanada081 7 ай бұрын
Folks! Listen. This could save your life, your marriage and your eternal life in heaven or hell. Proverbs 23:32 Habikkuk 2:15 1 Corinthians 6:10 Bible is clear on this
@keithfuson7694
@keithfuson7694 6 ай бұрын
Yes. We can drink in moderation yet not get drunk..but yiu dont have to. Its a personal choice. Red wine is healthy. See Dt14:26. Drinking is not drunkeness. Correctly cut the word of truth. White sugar is far worse than all alcohol. Believers eat lots of sugar. Gluttony is also a sin among believers.
@dalehood1846
@dalehood1846 6 ай бұрын
@keithdusion,. Grape juice has been proven by doctors and laboratories to give the same benefits as wine. Does the body need any alcohol, no absolutely not. As for other commitments about sugar and overeating being bad, I fully agree. GOD created everything, man has used things and turned them around for his own pleasure. In conclusion, the wine they drank back in BIBLE times was watered down and was used for purifying questionable, unsanitary water. The question is, what would Jesus have us do in our own lives? In January 1996 I made the decision for sobriety and it has been a good one. All the best and may God bless.
@MarioTheDrummer777
@MarioTheDrummer777 7 ай бұрын
Yes Next
@Thinkustandtakeheedlessufall
@Thinkustandtakeheedlessufall 6 ай бұрын
The problem is everyone wants to preach their conviction.instead of the word of God .the pharases accused Jesus of being a glutton and a wine bibber in Luke 7-33-35.he.told them that wisdom was justified of her children. All thru the old testament wine is a blessing. We see paul speaking of not being givin to much wine to bishops and people all in the churches. He says not to be in excess of wine.1cor 11-21tru 29 paul speaks of some setting and eating and drinking untill they were drunk he never asked what wine was doing in the church.jesus first miracle was turning water to wine the diciples wanted wine mary said they were out.jesus made some.the governor at the wedding said it was the best.proverbs 31.7 let a man drink and forget his poverty and misery. Jesus at the last supper said he wouldn't drink henceforth of the fruit of the vine until he drank it a new with them in his father's kingdom.duet 14- 26 we read of a feast to god were he tells isreal to buy whatever their heart desires wine liquor. I could go on .now on the other hand.we are warned their will be no drunkard's in heaven. Wine is a mocker strong drink is rageing and those decived thereby are not wise.woe to those who rise up eary and tarry all day at wine until they become inflamed thereby. There's so many scriptures about this topic but hed didn't cover many. This isn't a ticket to be a drunkard. paul talks of everything in moderation. And not putting an occasion to fall in front of a.brother he tells us that he who drinks not to despise him who doesn't.and he who doesn't the same.but if you feel its a sin to drink you better not it is sin to you. Anyway all that being said.i don't care if you drink or not but if I see you stumbling around drunk i will warn you what the Bible says. people will say alcohol has never touched my lips but most all cough medicine years back were 10 to 15 percent alcohol. Well you know we had a bad cough so we took a couple of shots.I want to hear the whole word of God not just one side.are people not reading their bibles? is he? read your Bibles folks. You got a lot of ear ticklers out there .
@sylviacaldwell2139
@sylviacaldwell2139 29 күн бұрын
CARNAL VS SPIRITUAL ✝️
@texas7123
@texas7123 5 ай бұрын
Great teaching…..very good.
@ak471911able
@ak471911able 7 ай бұрын
‭Psalm 104:14-15 KJV‬ [14] He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, And herb for the service of man: That he may bring forth food out of the earth; [15] And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, And oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart. Lying is a sin and we still speak, fornication is a sin and married couples still have sex, gluttony is a sin a we still eat, drinking and being drunk is not the same, if you are not strong enough to resist sin then stay in your house and wait till the second coming, God doesn't want robots, He wants people to obey him out of love, if you feed your flesh more than you feed your spirit then who do you think will win when temptation comes?
@ak471911able
@ak471911able 7 ай бұрын
‭Deuter­­onomy 14:26 MEV‬ [26] Then you may spend that money for whatever your heart desires, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatever your heart desires, and you may eat there before the Lord your God, and you shall rejoice, you, and your household, It was the law to do this.
@barbaracampbell5830
@barbaracampbell5830 3 ай бұрын
I have been drinking for 40+ years, I will probably die from it. Can't blame anyone but myself.
@bobcarpenter4301
@bobcarpenter4301 6 ай бұрын
Why do people drink? It’s very destructive
@romeobond8473
@romeobond8473 6 ай бұрын
You say "Why do people drink? It’s very destructive" Show the evidence of its destructiveness if alcohol is taken in moderation or once a year?
@clellaadams
@clellaadams 6 ай бұрын
@@romeobond8473 only a moron would ask a question like that. or someone hooked on alcohol.
@bigtobacco1098
@bigtobacco1098 7 ай бұрын
Jesus turned water into wine
@CharlotteRhodes-t7s
@CharlotteRhodes-t7s 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. Thank you for all your messages. I listen to you every time that you are on. Awesome Preacher.
@denisebosher1233
@denisebosher1233 7 ай бұрын
I believe no they should not.
@tobystamps2920
@tobystamps2920 7 ай бұрын
I have met several Christians personally who have confessed to getting drunk on occasion or being alcoholic. But the modern church which eschews “legalism” won’t tell these people that they shouldn’t drink.
@floram3722
@floram3722 7 ай бұрын
Most Baptist drink like fish.
@tanyawatkins7206
@tanyawatkins7206 7 ай бұрын
And was raised in a family that didn’t drink. Both my parents did before we were born and my dad’s family were heavy drinkers. I was a drinker/partier until I was 36. Praise the Lord I had no hardship stopping. My selfish life ended and I gave myself to the Lord fully. I knew Him since I was a child. But I was selfish and hurt. Now I am free! I do NOT miss that old life but was death. Look at the very name of alcohol….SPIRITS! I know many Christians who drink, but none that I am aware of are fully dead to themselves and living their life fully for God. They are much more in this world. Finally. I asked Jesus about all the wine they drank in His time on the earth. He said it was different. For a couple reasons. The alcohol content lower essentially, and the spirits prevalent in the earth different. We are in a time where there are many ancient spirits unleashed and we must be extra diligent to guard our hearts/ minds/ eyes/ ears.
@bigfish8473
@bigfish8473 6 ай бұрын
You are not sopuse to drink . As a follower of Christ.
@saxmanjpr5092
@saxmanjpr5092 6 ай бұрын
Really? Jesu drank wine, so he most not be the Christ and savior.
@romeobond8473
@romeobond8473 6 ай бұрын
You say "You are not supposed to drink, as a follower of Christ." Show me biblical that this is wrong?? Show me please the passage or scripture where alcohol is wrong to drink since Jesus made wine himself?
@bigfish8473
@bigfish8473 6 ай бұрын
@romeobond8473 Jesus tell us to not to be a drunkard. And you can't drink alcohol without changing you as a individual. Your thinking changes , your thoughts prosses changes. The list goes on.
@saxmanjpr5092
@saxmanjpr5092 6 ай бұрын
@@bigfish8473 Bull! Then you met have changed horribly by drinking a soda pop. You will change if you are a DRUNK, but not having an occasional beer. smh
@romeobond8473
@romeobond8473 6 ай бұрын
@@bigfish8473 You say "Jesus tell us to not to be a drunkard" I never said to be a drunkard did I. Jesus made wine the best at that, if alcohol was forbidden Jesus would not have made the best wine. Yes you can drink alcohol without Changing. Just don't get drunk! In the old Testament the production and consumption of beer and wine are often connected to the covenant promises of God. Under the old covenant, wine is a blessing (Deut 7:13; 11:14) and the absence of wine a curse (28:39, Drinking wine and beer appears to have been the norm among God's people. Melchizedek gifted Abram with wine, and Isaac drank wine before bestowing a blessing on Jacob (Gen. 14:18; 27:25).
@kathychanning1614
@kathychanning1614 7 ай бұрын
As a curse breaker from a family of alcoholics, no.
@bradleykimmons
@bradleykimmons 7 ай бұрын
No to what?
@annairwin8147
@annairwin8147 6 ай бұрын
Christ drank the fruit of the vine….ANYTHING in excess is wrong…some folks can Handel it…and some can’t……
@phyllisadkins9208
@phyllisadkins9208 6 ай бұрын
People try to say things to may it okay. I know in my heart you know better.
@philipliebegott1221
@philipliebegott1221 7 ай бұрын
Apathy against scripture leads to lukewarm Christianity. 🇩🇪 for God's providence
@josephripley1641
@josephripley1641 6 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@mattmatthews9517
@mattmatthews9517 6 ай бұрын
Adultery is a sin but we don’t stop having sex with our spouses just because other people misuse sex. Drinking isn’t the sin but drinking all the time is. Drunkards mean an alcoholic.
@wesleyford8389
@wesleyford8389 6 ай бұрын
Your trying to justify your drinking friend, ......when your holyghost filled you don't wanna drink...
@susanthroop1279
@susanthroop1279 7 ай бұрын
I appreciate the Word but scripture cautions against drunkenous. It also speaks against gluttony. Does that mean we need to stop eating. I don't think so. So in the case of both of these substances we consume its excess that is the problem. Same case when money is spoken of in the scripture. Money isn't the issue; its the love of money that is the sin.
@MTknitter22
@MTknitter22 7 ай бұрын
Down deep people understand the distinction. Yet the flesh is weak and some want to follow what feels good regardless.
@susanthroop1279
@susanthroop1279 7 ай бұрын
@@MTknitter22 Could you explain this a bit more. Not sure what you mean by "the distinction."
@Ludwles1239
@Ludwles1239 6 ай бұрын
The Bible says... Drunkards shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
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