The Unbiblical Teaching of Jimmy Evans & How It Helped to Destroy Daystar Television Network

[@Pastor_Grant]

Just to summarize, the Bible only lists two reasons for divorce, adultery & abandonment. Remarriage is permitted only in cases of adultery. This is not a judgement against divorced people, for many its not their fault, also even if it was someone's fault, if they repent they are to be forgiven. As for abuse, if the wife and or children are legitimately in danger they should separate themselves physically and involve the police, so nobody is saying that battered women should remain in the home with their abuser.

[@michelletraina2768]

Jonie Lambs Church is Gateway - Pastor Robert Morris

[@Maz-rh7vj]

Hi. I have a question that I hope you can help me with. I married a man who initially told me that his wife had committed adultery. I’m a Christian, he told me that he was a catholic when we first met, however whilst dating he told me he had converted to Christianity. A few months after we married he began violently physically abusing me, both privately and publicly. We went to Christian marriage counselling but the abuse got worse. In fact the counsellor advised me to leave him as he believed he was capable of killing me. I stayed for 2 years, praying he would change and sought help from the elders of the church to no avail. In front of them he was a different person. In one of his final violent sessions he laughed in my face and informed me that his wife had never committed adultery. I endured 2 years of physical, emotional and mental torture, and realised that if I didn’t leave it was highly likely I would end up dead. So, I fled for my life. fled my home country, and went no contact. My question is; as he confessed in the end that his wife had never committed adultery, am I biblically allowed to divorce him and if so, am I permitted to marry as I believe by him telling me this, he was never truly my husband. Thank you in advance for your response.

[@chilidog73]

You should stand for your marriage always. If your spouse cheated on you and God gives you the strength to stay, you should. You may be the only person standing and praying for your prodigal spouse. Of course, if its an abusive situation, remove yourself and then stand and pray for your spouse. If you don't, who will?? Love as Christ loves you. Amen.

[@deydrm]

Here's the problem. It's a context problemwhich results in a theological one. When Jesus taught about divorce,who was He addressing? Was it Christians,us,the church? NO. He was addressing the Jews. WHO were under the Law. Are we Jews,under the Law? NO. Jimmy Evans is a dispensationalist. If you believe in a literal second coming of Jesus,to set up His kingdom,and reign on Earth for a thousand years, this is dispensationalist theology. In this theological view,which I believe, and many churches here in America hold to, we,the church,are separate from the Jews ,who are under the Law. Context is everything,if you been taught biblical exegesis and hermenutics properly. Matt.19: 3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?” 4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’[b]? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” 7 “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?” 8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.” Who is Jesus addressing? The Pharisees. What is He saying? That they incorrectly interpreted and applied the Law. And Jesus did this many times throughout the gospels. "You have heard it said"...But I say...The kingdom of God is like... Jesus was correcting the Jewish teachers,and they hated Him for it! Now, pay attention, Paul begins here,Romans 2: 12 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.) 16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares. But we,believers in Jesus,are NOT under the Law. And All our sins,past present and future,are covered by His blood.hebrews 7 and 8, Jesus is forever before the throne, Hebrews 7: 26 Such a high priest truly meets our need-one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens. 27 Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself. 28 For the law appoints as high priests men in all their weakness; but the oath, which came after the law, appointed the Son, who has been made perfect forever. Romans 8, Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you[a] free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh,[b] God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. Live according to the Spirit,not keeping and trying to fulfill the Law. Want more proof that WE are not under the Law? And we won't be judged? : ALL of Romans 5-8 goes into detail about the Jews,who are under the Law,and believers (in this case Roman gentile believers) who now the church, ,and therefore the Law doesn't apply to us. The writer of Hebrews also goes into detail about the Law,and those under the Law (the Jews),and the New covenant that's now been established for US,the church. But here's the clincher. Romans 7:7 Do you not know, brothers and sisters-for I am speaking to those who know the law-that the law has authority over someone only as long as that person lives? 2 For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him. 3 So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress if she marries another man. 4 So, my brothers and sisters, you also DIED TO THE LAW through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. 5 For when we were in the realm of the flesh, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. 6 But now, by dying to WHAT ONCE BOUND US, we have been RELEASED from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code. SO,what Jesus taught about divorce, was correcting what the Jewish leaders had taught about the Law regarding marriage. Now what Paul wrote to the Corinthians? If you believe this is NT "Law",you're wrong. By this reasoning, you should remain unmarried,single,in the first place. Women can't wear make-up,jewelry, expensive clothes,etc, and the list for legalist goes on. 1 Corinth 7:8 But I say to the unmarried and to the widows: It is good for them if they remain even as I am; 9 but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion. "They cannot exercise self control? How do you know that with certainty? Because you've tried,and failed,that how. NOW,am I excusing these people completely? NO. Leaders should teach by example first. Just like Jesus did. And they way they handled this situation has NOT been wise. But should they be judged,or condemned? Should we conclude that God can't use them to accomplish His purposes? Moses was a murderer! And he had a temper problem, a weakness of character, his whole life!, that kept him out of the promised land. David was an adulterer,and complicit to murder! But Solomon would have never been born,otherwise. Solomon was a sex addict. He didn't need to watch porn. He just needed to call for his hundreds of wives! Jonah disobeyed God,and ran away. God could have used someone else. Micah was alive and available. Why didn't He?

[@chilidog73]

@deydrm Of course we aren't under the law. The whole Sermon on the Mount is a dissertation on why we need Christ. And of course, God can use anyone, despite their sin. But that isn't a license to sin. They may be forgiven for divorce but God hates divorce. And if you divorce your spouse without cause then is love in you? And "pastors", although human, should live a life above reproach and according to the conditions for a pastor set out in Timothy. But the fact is, Daystar preaches "another gospel" and supports and promotes many false teachers and false prophets. They need to be marked and avoided.

[@donnamiller2240]

All I hear Joni say is “ Jimmy Evans says” but what I don’t her say is “The scripture says”. Sounds like man’s counsel is being exalted above God’s counsel. So sad.

[@shelleybayless8968]

Kind of like when Joni & Jimmy said to Jonathan: “She (Joni) is the voice of God to you.” Jonathan was not allowed to pray about anything & not allowed to have any convictions.

[@annemurphy9339]

She’s using him as her excuse to do what she wants, no matter what the Bible says.

[@You2canchange]

Exactly.

[@christiestjohn9780]

@@donnamiller2240 when people want to sin they will find those Christians who justify their sin. Of course Jesus will forgive her if she repents. She's not there. So God will deal with her until she does.

[@marolynbriggs1878]

Lust.

[@shelleybayless8968]

Joni not only surrounds herself only with people who agree with her, but adjusts her belief system according to what she wants, not according to the Bible.

[@idajones72]

"Yes" people will ride joni's coattail into the sunset.

[@timepostednottimerecorded1776]

And if she put out her side of story on KZbin she turns comments off.

[@Pastor_Grant]

The perverted sex therapist Joni married once taught that "Jesus died on the cross so that we could have great sex!" That is utter blasphemy, just like the guy Joni was doing that interview with Tim Ross who compared Jesus on the cross to a stripper on a pole. These people are what Scripture referred to in Jude 19 "sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit."

[@marthavillaverde8766]

These woman makes me 🤢

[@Sunshine500-n7j]

@@Pastor_Grant in the link I posted below, he said at one time he was a sex addict then became a counselor??!!!

[@kathygoulden2925]

For real?!?!?

[@sharoncrawford7192]

I heard him say that.😢

[@RhondaPoston]

I heard the same thing cuz I saw the tape of him saying that. There's a new tape on X not long ago where he's bouncing up and down saying worse things. I was embarrassed for him I mean it's like as if he was possessed.

[@JessiPerez1234]

I used to respect Jimmy Evans, Not Any More! I couldn’t believe the way he treated Jonathan and Suzy😣

[@karenboyanton5702]

Funny what is said behind closed doors. When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

[@LisaHadeler3]

He treated them so disrespectfully.

[@christiestjohn9780]

@@JessiPerez1234 it was cult behavior!

[@flameofelijah]

Evans is a heretic. He teaches MANY false things

[@donnatarawneh2014]

He didn't miss treat them. He was firm with them. And needed to be. Just because they may have been speaking in a soft polite sounding tone, does not mean that they are not in the wrong. It does not mean they are not allowing themselves to be used of the devil to stir strife and discord in the ministry.

[@MOM-cx6mm]

I know someone close to me who divorced because of both adultery and abandonment and never remarried. She lives her life serving the Lord.

[@bibbibbers2459]

I too also have a wonder daughter who likewise was abandoned in her marriage left with two beautiful grandchildren, and divorced on her own, but God has been so good to her and hers. PTL!

[@samuelm.5752]

That is the biblical way. You must remain unmarried if your former spouse is still alive.

[@sylviaruth5008]

Praise God!

[@davidjohnson6538]

Th a t was her choice my wife left me for my friend I got remarried after about 20 yrs

[@johnseifert9189]

​​@samuelm.5752 That's foolish. READ your Bible about adultery. No such thing about spiritual adultery. Her new spouse committed adultery, so she is in an adulterous marriage

[@rosemarysutton9543]

Hes not your husband hes still married to his wife Is Jimmys word greater than God

[@michelleclark1599]

Hell no

[@sharonereed81]

A justification for divorce is not the same as permission to remarry.

[@MehitabelAllie]

YES. What you said!

[@RedNicole22]

100% truth

[@linegrant4605]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@tiffanyanthony]

Indeed! ❤

[@tomfish1285]

Well said.

[@awaitingthetrumpetcall4529]

I never listened to Daystar and I recently unsubscribed from Jimmy Evans.

[@sarahkirbach5040]

Exact same.

[@TheSunTheMoonTheStars10]

Exact same.

[@truenorthstrongfree8566]

Yes me too, I used to like Jimmy Evans end time teachings. But Ive now seen the REAL Jimmy Evans......Wowzwers

[@lizzietish14]

Me, too

[@mariegraves2365]

Me too!

[@Lee-de2wl]

I’m sure Joni used to believe the biblical version of marriage for divorced people too, until she didn’t. Until it became inconvenient to her because she wanted to be with Doug, and then, bring in Jimmy Evans to find an obscure reason why previously held beliefs can be tossed out the window. Edit: and now Joni is on her program teaching every listener the New edited Joni/Evans version of biblical marriage. Its dangerous.

[@kevinevans8892]

Are you sure of that? I can name at least one famous televangelist on Daystar who left his first wife for a female congregant in the 1970s. He is on Daystar. I can also point to Paula White whose current hubby was married either 3 or 2 times before his marriage to her

[@dianeandjesus]

​@kevinevans8892 what are you asking her? She's not talking about anyone but Joni & Doug. Your comment doesn't make sense.

[@philisaakak]

@@kevinevans8892it was JH

[@shannonpritchard6642]

@@kevinevans8892Paula has been married three times herself, to a member of the band Journey no less.

[@maryarmstrong615]

@@kevinevans8892If u expect them 2 answer ur comment, then say the name of the person who u r talking about ⁉️

[@MTknitter22]

As a Texan and from Amarillo area where Jimmy Evans still is elder at our local church, I am shocked at the silence of TEXAS ministers all over DFW in particular about this. This is serious. This is not just a family squabble. We have prayed for God to clean us all up, expose evil and get the Church and ministries clean and holy before God. He is doing it!!

[@CR-cd3bx]

AMEN! 🙏

[@Thankful305]

My ex H abandoned our marriage when he began abusing me--emotionally, physically, spiritually, financially and verbally-- 😢 He abandoned his vows and abandoned protecting my heart 💔 I endured in prayer, 25 years asking the Lord for help . Filed for divorce after he left for the 3rd time 💔 I will say… Boundaries and telling myself The Truth set me free!! He would never change bc his selfishness was his priority

[@LisaHadeler3]

Severe abuse would be abandonment in my opinion.

[@butterflies8089]

Interested wording she used. " I used to have that NARROW view." NARROW is the way that leads to Life. - FEW will find it - BROAD and WIDE is the way that lead to DESTRUCTION. - MANY enter through it- Matthew 7:13-14 Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

[@anthonystroman8407]

She is simply trying to justify sin.

[@auntielin31]

She also wore white as she married the sex therapist! 😂

[@linegrant4605]

Amen 🙏

[@mountaindaughter48]

It's interesting that Jimmy Evans became a self-appointed "marriage expert" after openly admitting years ago that he almost destroyed his marriage because he was abusive, both physically, verbally and emotionally to his wife. Then God allegedly convicted him of all this, and he became a "marriage expert". But yet he continued to come across as arrogant and narcissistic in his teachings, and still does. He probably thinks people don't remember his "confession" about this.

[@susanmurphy8022]

I CAN'T STAND HIM! JUST TOTAL ICK! MARCUS TOO CHEATING!

[@MyHome7_Carla]

Wow I didn't know that about him!!! Now it makes perfect sense the way he was treating the kids!!! Scumbag!!!

[@mountaindaughter48]

@@MyHome7_Carla This was many years ago he said this. I'm almost 64, and I remember everything. 😘

[@mountaindaughter48]

@@susanmurphy8022 Yes, Marcus cheated on Joni and she "forgave" him and took him back. She didn't want to lose her empire and fortune. She knew exactly what she was doing, especially when he got sick and she wouldn't take him to the hospital right away. She knew he had other health issues that could be compounded by the covid, and maybe fatal. Notice how fast she remarried after his death. Doug had his sights on her, or should I say on the ministry, long before Marcus died. Follow the money.

[@Jodilcolorado]

@@mountaindaughter48speculation. I wouldn’t go there Friend.

[@seamcheck11]

THANK YOU PASTOR GRANT! THIS IS WHY HER SON DOES NOT APROVE OF HER MARRIAGE TO DOUG. Jonathan KNOW HIS BIBLE.

[@Praiser_WV]

Remember too, she is angry w/ Jonathan because he would not approve the card to be read publicly. You are so right, Jonathan does know his Bible & will not compromise. Blessings

[@jedidiahgodsbeloved6605]

He doesn't have to know the bible only , he just have to know the truth , when something is not right , is not right .

[@linegrant4605]

Absolutely 💯

[@linegrant4605]

​@@Praiser_WVhe's a grown man not a little boy Joni thinks she can bully.

[@stacieharris5640]

Wow, I’m in shock here. My son used to want to marry Doug’s daughter when he met her at church in Colorado Springs!! This is crazyyyyyy

[@heathersudbrock]

What she was trying to say Joni and some other videos that I’ve heard is that Doug divorce was based on abandonment, but the only way abandonment works is if an unbelieving no longer desires to stay with a believing spouse and leave them. That’s the only form of abandonment that’s biblical

[@natureocean9466]

Well after DOUG’s New Marriage to JONI, his (ex-wife) continued working with DOUG at his (THERAPIST CENTER) center, hmmm very interesting!??🧐

[@jenniferraymond3913]

Amen

[@philisaakak]

He says she was mentally ill So I guess in sickness and in health doesn’t apply

[@lindaopthof9504]

Was Doug' s wife an unbeliever who abandoned him?

[@lauratrindade2773]

@@natureocean9466really??? I would like to hear from herself how she feels about all this stuff

[@wordtouchministries2557]

When I was married, I cherished the teachings by Jimmy Evans and his wife, but after hearing the audio recording of what he said to Jonathan and Susie, I don’t want to hear any teaching by a man who will not stick to the word of God. To say that they are the voice of God and that Jonathan and Susie have to listen to them, was wrong. It was so wrong and it was so evil in their voice.

[@carlmillbrooks9044]

IF DOUG'S WIFE SPEAK OUT, SHE'S GONNA BLOW THIS THING OUTTA THE WATER! REMEMBER, THERE'S 2 SIDES TO EVERY STORY!

[@charmainehopkins2372]

Imagine the narssistic abuse his ex wife was subjected to?

[@deedahl2866]

She signed NDA.

[@Scooter-jm4hz]

I met her and is very sweet and mild mannered. He on the other hand was an attention seeker. His ex-wife is still running his counseling office so she couldn’t have been that bad. She cried & begged him not to leave… now that’s sad!

[@dianeandjesus]

I am SO disappointed in Jimmy Evans. What a overbearing boopboop. He couldn't sound more sold out to the corporation. It's gross.

[@blgallas]

Marcus Rogers calls it the Christian Illuminati. They all cover for each other vey they all know each other’s sins. God calls it colluding.

[@passingthrough777]

I saw this video with Marcus Rogers.

[@laurenfromdownsouth]

My understanding of Paul's words was that if the unbelieving spouse walks away and simply will not stay in the marriage, then the believing spouse is not bound. That is Paul's definition of "abandonment".

[@theirmom4723]

Correct

[@hygenius07]

That happened to me. I also believe a person can remarry when that happens to them.

[@hygenius07]

The believer is not bound, therefore they're free. Free to remarry too.

[@shealovesjesuschrist]

@@hygenius07 False. Cheating is biblical grounds for divorce but not remarriage. If the covenant spouse is still alive, then in God’s eyes the two are still one… the oath of till death do we part is something God takes seriously even though there has been a divorce. You are free to remarry only if your first, (covenant) spouse has passed away. David Pawson covers this topic beautifully.

[@alisha-ATX]

@@hygenius07 that is a dangerous belief. When it comes to abandonment, the Scripture means we are not "bound" in a sense of not having to be bound to *duties to the spouse* like protection, provision, cooking for, having relations with and so on. It does not mean the covenant is broken, even if there is separation and we are not bound to duties to the spouse, we are still connected by a covenant until death parts them, and remarrying while the covenant spouse is alive is in fact adultery. That is why the Scripture also says, the two options are either reconciling OR staying alone.

[@leakrasts1439]

I used to follow Jimmy, for years actually, watched Joni as well. Enjoyed both of them. Then she announced her marriage to Doug Weiss. As much as I enjoyed Jimmy and Joni I just couldn’t bring myself to listen to them anymore, I can’t explain it but felt it deeply. What they were doing was wrong. I wish both of them new light in their beliefs. So how do they untangle all of this.

[@janice1493]

Same here. I couldn't watch it after he started coming on the show. I know what it is but I won't say it. I know that his presence has made a terrible divide. I didn't know that a lot of people have had the same thoughts until I have read some of the comments. It's so heartbreaking to see the enemy trying to ruin so many lives.

[@marolynbriggs1878]

Arrogance pride & lust.

[@Burbankelly]

I am 💯 on Jonathan and Susi‘s side on this! I think that marriage is suspicious especially on Doug‘s part! And Jimmy Evans is unbelievably operating out of the wrong spirit in all of this! He has no right to tear this family apart for his own gain! Having said that, my husband was so emotionally abusive I asked the Lord to take my life every single day! I am confident He did not want me to live the rest of my life, wishing and praying for this because the abuse was so bad! The church needs to be careful about what they push on people and read the scriptures about how much He loves us, and cares about us, and came to give us life and a life more abundant! And pray it’s never your daughter or your son in a relationship with a person like this!

[@brendacook5103]

It would be interesting to hear from Doug Weiss’s ex-wife regarding the reasons for their divorce. Maybe Rev. Jimmy Evans can ask her if there was abuse, adultery or addiction in her marriage with Doug Weiss.

[@JOHNNY-nu1fm]

Probably signed an NDA

[@Tinabeena5]

She was paid off, million$ I am sure. That is apparent.

[@Angel-tt8tq]

YES!

[@lauratrindade2773]

Yes I would like to hear from Doug’s wife too

[@shealovesjesuschrist]

Suzy recently said his wife begged him to stay. I just saw that video.

[@SashaKolodziej]

The bible gives a reason to divorce but does not give permission to remarry unless you are widowed. People keep adding to the scriptures as though divorcing because of infidelity is also permission to remarry. But it does not say that. Re marrying under any other circumstance than being widowed is committing adultery. The disciples even asked Jesus, “…who can accept this?” And Jesus clearly said only to those whom it is given. Remember that what God joins together, let no man separate. A certificate of divorce does not break the covenant. Let us repent. My husband has committed infidelity with 9 women. I am a stay at home mother of 4 young children and always thought if I found out that he cheated I would divorce and remarry. Until I found out and God opened my eyes to the scripture and gave me strength to remain married, celibate and pray for my husbands repentance. He has also given me the patient faith to wait for reconciliation even if that never happens. And the fear of God gives me strength.

[@lanagrahamntx]

Ummm.....NO!!! From a Pentecostal Minister's daughter!!

[@Travelalot04]

Yes you are correct, but people that divorce don't want to hear this.

[@theirmom4723]

@@lanagrahamntx Thank you! from another Pentecostal raised female, wife and mother.

[@SashaKolodziej]

What does being a Pentecostal ministers daughter have to do with this? The truth will always offend. Are we able to humble ourselves and ponder the possibility of being wrong? And ask God to show us the truth. Show me where in the bible it says you are allowed to remarry except for if widowed? God hates divorce. I find two things offend people the most… the topic of baptism and divorce/remarriage.

[@lauratrindade2773]

Yes I agree… it’s a very fine line when it comes to this topic. I pray that the Lord is helping us to get more clarity. We want to please Him and not ourselves. Please help us Lord ❤

[@juliapegula4169]

The bottom line is a child has been molested, and the parents didn’t do anything about it. Wrong is wrong, especially if is your child. The child is the victim here and Pete, whoever he is must be brought to the light. That whole family is messed up!

[@idajones72]

Yes, let the adults live in their mistakes. My concern and only concern is the child messed up in all this adult perversion. Shame on Daystar.

[@idajones72]

You are not understanding. They tried: Since it was family and everyone's boss, they first told Marcus who said don't talk, then he swept it under the rug. Joni talked to child and scared her so bad, now child pretends it never happened. Jonathan contacted police and child won't talk. Then case was closed. I believe it has been reopened.

[@GinaE1271]

@@idajones72The case has been reopened according to Jonathan and Suzy. She was put into therapy and when she told the therapist what happened, the therapist contacted CPS and they contacted the police. Jonathan mentioned that on a video the other day.

[@kdcreative9541]

⁠​⁠@@idajones72 my issue with the parents is they failed to protect the daughter from Pete as there were multiple incidences after Pete got caught the first time with him being alone inappropriately with the daughter. Also they should have never let Joni speak privately with the daughter about the matter. The parents also continued to work at Daystar and with Pete after Joni and Marcus betrayed them. Susie was mistreated and fired last year and Johnathan continued to work at daystar. Fast forward to 2024, Johnathan gets fired for not signing an NDA and not wanting to read congratulatory message about Joni and Doug marriage. Johnathan also disgruntled about not inheriting the president role at daystar js now whistleblowing about Daystar years after the SA of his daughter. Him and Suzy should have left Daystar and cut ties with their family after how they betrayed their daughter. Why give the abuser more opportunities to molest your child. All the adults in this picture are wrong all of them failed the child

[@allismama]

The adults did they meaning parents brought for investigation....the grandparents Joni and Marcus at the time tried to push it under the rug

[@donnarobinsonmedia7293]

My husband and I have been married for 39 years. If we'd had more money, We probably would have split up years ago. But God showed me that in our case, keeping this vow and being able to stand before God as someone who has kept this vow, will reap blessings and benefits far beyond the little bit of fun we could have had if we had gotten a divorce. I'm staying for the duration because I want to keep that vow. I want to stand before God knowing that I did at least one thing right in my life. My husband agrees. It's the only thing we've ever agreed on! LOL

[@kevinevans8892]

Guys like you and your husband are the true heroes of the modern Christian church, not these false teachers like Joni and Weiss

[@elained7006]

That's awesome & amazing to read

[@karenmarcum7098]

My husband and I stayed together and raised our children despite many years of heartache and hardship. I prayed for healing. I got my healing. My husband was diagnosed with stage 4 colon cancer. Those 14 months mended every hurt and as for our marriage, it was the best 14 months of our life together. I miss him daily and am horrified at how Joni has treated her children. I’ve been a widow almost five years. I don’t date because I couldn’t hurt my children as they were grieving as was I. We miss him very much and I don’t know that I will ever open my heart to another because my husband truly was the love of my life. Thankful that God allowed our hurts to heal before he passed.

[@nikkicole2149]

Anything that comes out of Ms Joni's mouth sounds like clashing cymbals. Gives me a headache. I pray for resolution for Jonathan and Suzy and their sweet children. I pray for Arielle that she gets some kind of child counseling/ therapy and is healed mind body and spirit. I am thinking of their son Israel as well. This all must be hard on him as well.

[@Bellajane127]

Arielle started to have counseling a year ago but they had to stop because it was too traumatic for her to rehash what happened.

[@sandraglade]

Since when does Jimmy Evan’s voice stands above Gods word ?

[@sarafreeman5073]

EXACTLY!

[@dianebarron9510]

She keeps mentioning the Lord told her or him all the time. She is using the LORD for an excuse! Her Career It's over! The way she treated her son and Daughter-in-law Her ministry should be over. I don't think she has a ministry anymore! I couldn't get over how she treated her son and daughter-in-law like a Dictator. She acted like she was God. It made me sick!

[@smmcook4275]

I couldn’t believe how she was trying to control and bully them! She wants what she wants…even if it destroys her granddaughter! This is beyond shameful!

[@angiekeyes69]

Joni is brainwashed by NAR false teachers and considers herself the elite.She is selfish and entitled.I used to watch Daystar and noticed how often she would interrupt guests while they told compelling stories to always redirect the attention on herself.Yuck.

[@linegrant4605]

The devil spoke to her. Who is she fooling😮 nobody but herself 👍

[@siestakeygirl1000]

It's so refreshing to hear you preach truth. In 60 yrs I never was taught about divorce and remarriage. I was married for 22 years. My husband divorced me. I didn't know that I couldn't get remarried. It took a revelation from God. That made me tremble for months. Then the Lord led me through a deep study about divorce and remarriage. This is serious and should be taught in church. It can prevent you from entering heaven. But pastors don't want to preach about it because they're too concerned about offending people. As a Christian I would hope that we're more concerned about not offending God. I thank God for his Mercy and I was able to repent and I will remain single until I go home to be with the Lord. I happily serve Him, and Jesus is my husband and he spends time with me everyday and loves me. I'm so grateful for the Lord. But I wanted to thank you because you don't hear people speaking truth like this. I'm involved in prayer groups and sometimes I hear people praying for people to get a divorce and I'm like what? They often use abuse or drugs. And it's simply not biblical. God bless you....

[@ugochukwuanosike2283]

You're truly a follower of Christ. You Explanation is spot on and helpful to a lot of folks who are part of the seeker sensitive churches where the gospel has been watered down.

[@shannonl8602]

The conversation starting at 0:28 is hard to listen to. That man is almost tripping over himself trying to affirm everything Joni says. Agreeing with her before she can even complete every phrase. 😒

[@scottdunn2178]

So glad this charlatan and hustler is finally being exposed...

[@linegrant4605]

God is exposing ALL the evil in the church 💯 these people are playing church 💯

[@ng3069]

Jimmy Evans trying to re-write the Bible to appease his friends ungodly choices.

[@bibsann861]

Jimmy Evans is stirring the pot making things worse.

[@maryduran9487]

I’m sure Doug’s First Wife “ Lisa” has THE TRUTH OF HOW DOUG JUST LEFT HER TO GO MARRY JONI!!!!

[@lindag9975]

Everyone is damaged in life, hurt by even the most well meaning people. And "abuse" can be defined as anything.

[@rondarajcoomar1346]

So when you went to the altar to make your wedding vow till death do us part you lied ?

[@lauratrindade2773]

People change God never changes

[@gailwatson4927]

All need jail time for covering up what happened to Joni's granddaughter.

[@shawnalLovesJesus]

They might very well get it.

[@memyselfi5900]

They all need to be charged for the cover up a pediphile. Makes me sick. Joni and Jimmy spewing their Lucipherian Ideology is just horrific

[@seamcheck11]

@@shawnalLovesJesusI hope the guy that molested Jonathan’s daughter does get jail time!

[@SometimeAgo65]

JONI needs jail time for covering up what happened to her granddaughter!!

[@katrinaanderson485]

Amen

[@laurasciortino474]

Nothing but lies from daystar and God is cleaning house here daystar will be no longer. Goodbye to jimmy Evans too.

[@tracykimber729]

The narcissist speaks. She now is plagued by the Bible. 🙄Divorced people treated bad?

[@theSarahMilan]

Thank you for pointing out the adultery. This word needs to go far and wide....reach the masses!

[@777heavenbound]

Boy oh boy is she trying to justify her behavior... she's destroying her family and her business for this Doug guy. I guarantee it won't be worth it. She's also trying to make EVERYONE go along with it

[@marykrollzik8764]

Joni do you hear you're self? Doug did not have a Biblically reason for a divorce, 2 Month's after Marcus died he gets his divorce, it sounds like the two off you flirted before he got a divorce

[@roxanneshelton8671]

"Flirted"? More liked LUSTED to Joni & Dr Doug Weiss, probably BIG $$$ to his former wife!

[@linegrant4605]

🤣🤣🤣👍

[@linegrant4605]

​@roxanneshelton8671 absolutely 💯 and her husband died about 18mos and she jumped in a relationship already 😮

[@Bellajane127]

Yes, they did. A couple weeks after Marcus died, Joni sent Doug and Lisa to NC to get marriage counseling from her Denise Boggs, her family counselor. Denise said there was no abandonment issues between Doug and Lisa. She thought the marriage could have been salvaged. Then, a month later, Doug still filed for divorce. He started dating Joni in May of 2022, same month his divorce was finalized and 6 months after Marcus died. Denise said in a letter to Joni's kids that Doug is a wolf in sheep's clothing and they need to stop the marriage in 2023. Joni claims she didn't connect with Doug until after his divorce. Most likely, Doug and Joni plotted together after Marcus died on how they can be a couple as soon as possible. Lord, have mercy!

[@conniesharstrom2727]

They are both acting out of lust

[@AllenPendleton]

You must submit to Jimmy Evans authority. What a bully.

[@albertakossakowski7468]

That proves how much people actually know the Word of God

[@kevinevans8892]

​@@albertakossakowski7468he may have been influenced by John Bevere's Undercover

[@albertakossakowski7468]

@kevinevans8892 have no idea who the gentleman is you referred to. Sorry

[@lizsully8536]

The man has a complete god complex

[@angelaricottawarriorrose9917]

So jimmy Evans changed the Bible for joni and Doug sake!😮😮😮😮😮

[@kimberlystrickland4101]

Exactly! I pray God continues to cleanse the fakes out of ministry! Jimmy and Joni fit that bill!!!!

[@gailwatson4927]

Thank you Pastor Grant.

[@pearlyq3560]

Re-marriage is only permitted when a spouse dies. This re-marriage thing is a modern invention. You can get divorced over adultery but not re-married. End of story!!

[@kathleenkwong9864]

Very true. Once the spouse is alive you cannot remarry.

[@Travelalot04]

Absolutely correct

[@shealovesjesuschrist]

Exactly! The church is full of adulterers in second marriages. Cheating is biblical grounds for divorce but not remarriage. If the covenant spouse is still alive, then in God’s eyes the two are still one… the oath of till death do we part is something God takes seriously even though there has been a divorce. You are free to remarry only if your first, (covenant) spouse has passed away. David Pawson covers this topic beautifully.

[@fleurettevanheerden2955]

God, in His infinite wisdom, inspired this teaching for people like Joni and Doug to have no excuse.

[@SheIsFearfullyWonderfullyMade]

God bless you Pastor Grant! This is not spoken about enough! I’m 41, never married and no children and every single serious relationship that I have been in was with a DIVORCED man🤦🏽‍♀️ No wonder God didn’t bless those relationships… I was “saved” at 12 but really surrendered my life to Christ in 2021. I will not settle!!! If a man is divorced (except for adultery on his ex wife’s behalf) then it is an automatic NO🙅🏽‍♀️

[@parisstraughter1856]

"All lies will be exposed in 2024"

[@AlexA-ss4te]

I lived with a narcissist for 21 years, came close to suicide more than once. I finally left. Yes, he committed adultery multiple times also. But it was his cruel psychopathy that almost killed me. So without the adultery, God would not have mercy and allow me to leave? It's been 39 years and he hasn't changed. And I'm alive, but it took a couple of decades for me to recover from his twisted, demonic abuse. God is merciful.

[@commonsense9755]

Yes, you did good. Read 1 Corinthians 7:15.

[@RedNicole22]

Similar situation for me, but I remain unmarried and celibate.

[@shealovesjesuschrist]

@@RedNicole22 which is the right path. Cheating is biblical grounds for divorce but not remarriage. If the covenant spouse is still alive, then in God’s eyes the two are still one… the oath of till death do we part is something God takes seriously even though there has been a divorce. You are free to remarry only if your first, (covenant) spouse has passed away. David Pawson covers this topic beautifully.

[@joannefrias3784]

Yes yes the Bible says the spouse can leave but let them remain unmarried or return to the spouse.

[@Steve-pe9cj]

Im divorce and i believe i need to be single. I just want to do the right thing Jesus is my everything.

[@RedNicole22]

Same here. Been divorced and unmarried for a long time. My ex husband is remarried with children. He is my covenant spouse and that will never change, and I’m not free to remarry until he passes away, and only then am I no longer bound to him. I doubt I will ever remarry.

[@linegrant4605]

I have been divorced since 1995 when my son was 13yrs. I made up my mind no man comes before my son. I don't believe in divorce and remarry or date either. I'm content as can be and happy. I love the Lord and no man can take His place. He's been with me ALL these years and keep me company. He's a husband to the husband less and He's a jealous God 💯 and always my prayer God don't let anyone or anything takes His place in my life💯 I'm soon to be 66yrs next month. Happy as can be and enjoy my outing with my son every morning 🌅 hitting the gym to keep me healthy and young. Thank you Jesus 👏👏👏🙏🙏

[@ritakruger2304]

Shame

[@ritakruger2304]

​@@RedNicole22shame

[@patriciadurham5332]

I remember, years ago, watching Joni and her then husband talking about Marcus affair and i felt for her as Marcus said he wanted Joni to want to stay with him. Joni didnt divorce him and i felt for her and what shexwentcthrough. Seems Joni should have not let her new husband into Daystar in any way. She should maybe just have kept her private life very separate and move forward with her son.

[@antoinettecarr5640]

Sir, I have to disagree with you. My ex-husband attempted to murder me, I hid with my children in a battered woman's shelter and I DIVORCED him & yes I am set free! I almost died! I didn't remarry until he passed away!!!!!!!!!!!! Please don't put us women in this closed corner. I suffered because someone told me bottom divorce him! This is a sensitive subject!!!

[@KiKi-tf8rv]

“But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭5‬:‭11‬ ‭ “But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭18‬:‭6‬-‭7‬ ‭ “Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.” ‭‭James‬ ‭4‬:‭17‬ ‭ You did the right and Biblical thing! So many people only look at the passages that speak of marriage. But when a passage speaks of anything else, marriage tends to be the “loophole” that gains an exception to any of the consequences. It’s wrong and unbiblical. You can’t simultaneously protect a child from abuse while subjecting them to their abuser. You can’t abstain from “keeping company or even eating with a person” when you’re married to them and living in the same house. No, marriage is not a loophole to these verses. You did the right thing.♥️

[@alicecabrera6701]

Exposing Jimmy Evans. The marriage is not on biblical grounds.

[@shealovesjesuschrist]

Cheating is biblical grounds for divorce but not remarriage. If the covenant spouse is still alive, then in God’s eyes the two are still one… the oath of till death do we part is something God takes seriously even though there has been a divorce. You are free to remarry only if your first, (covenant) spouse has passed away. David Pawson covers this topic beautifully.

[@AllenPendleton]

God always seems to give the heretics their own revelation.

[@leedommeyer3597]

Jonathan was talking so sincere about an issue that should have been handled with empathy. He is truly a peacemaker for (quote) "letting the roof fall in on him for peace" and good for Jonathon for caring enough for his mother to confront her. From the beginning I didn't want to hear about Joni's new found "love" because it triggered a nerve in me. Those of us that have lived life have had opportunities to go our own way, expecting God to bless our mess (because we were so much in love); we were not fooled by Joni when efforts were made to convince us this was a "God" thing. She should have known that there are times in life where we have to make a decisions with our head and not our heart. I would expect she would have known (or be advised) that to maintain her position on the platform with Daystar, that she should not go ahead with that wedding because there would be consequences. It should have been clear that going her own way would (quote) "cost her more than she wants to pay and keep her longer than she wants to stay". I'm sorry, but I just couldn't believe that, not only was she so deceived, but there were so many around her that were jumping up for joy for this union. I have been watching other ministries reaction to it and was confused that they were not only accepting it, but brow beating her kids to accept it.

[@AmandaMoore-t4y]

Wisdom. Well-said.

[@kjvnews8326]

Her own son didn't think this marriage was biblical. That's where all of this trouble started. She wanted her son to read a statement written by her, blessing the marriage which he refused to do. Then threatened him to either sign a nondisclosure agreement within 48 hours or you're fired. What Christian would do this? Then, had a security guard put a tracking device in his car, and sent an armed security guard to his home with a document. This is Christian? These televangelists are ALL devils.

[@natashabrandani645]

💯

[@JeffTucker-j1p]

Jimmy Evans was the one who married them. Thus he and Doug are disqualified from being in any counciling type ministry. This is why we as believers should always be in the word and pray. They lost their way.

[@denisesmith3544]

Joni says; " I used to have the NARROW view regarding adultery ... " Narrow view = Biblical view.

[@BeverleighWatson]

I have to question the Adultry, if they committed it before his divorce? They are throwing DayStar all in on abandonment, how long was Doug abandoned? Did his wife know? Did she leave or is this an few days of emotional guilt on Doug's part to justify Adultry before or legitimize by claiming abandonment? If there was no Adultry before there is now. I'm not buying abandonment, Doug & Wife we're in counseling shortly before. Doug had major issues and abandonment wasn't it. Honesty & manipulation seems to be his issues. Jimmy & DayStar are not biblical and Doug never was biblical. People need to walk away from this evil.

[@Bellajane127]

🎯🎯🎯🎯💯💯💯💯

[@rua369]

Always had a check in my spirit about Evans and Weiss! Ick!

[@johnbeckerink8930]

Divorce for adultery is not ideal but permitted. Addiction, abuse and abandonment are ok for separation but not divorce

[@anas5908]

This is what happens when Christians, and in this case a pastor, renew their minds in the world instead of in the Word. The pressure of the world leads many to create false doctrines/teachings of demons. We must stand on the Word of God period! Not change It to fit anyone’s lifestyle.

[@sharontolan2781]

She is trying to justify her marriage to Doug. The person she's talking to, as well as Jimmy Evans, compromised, enabled, and blessed that marriage as if they have the divine authority to consecrate such a union.

[@Buttercup251]

Why did Doug Weiss divorce his first wife, does any one know?

[@Sunshine500-n7j]

he was married 2 times before Joni. He said his first wife Debbie cheated on him, his second wife Lisa, Doug said himself and he took the blame, that he was gone a lot and so they had a lack of communication and he also said she had depression and anxiety

[@oozy-e9b]

​@@Sunshine500-n7jhopefully she got over now in the last two yrs.😉

[@anas5908]

Wow, if the reason he divorced her is because she had depression and anxiety, plus bad or lack of communication… I guess many Christians couples would then say they have “biblical” grounds for divorce.🫤

[@ElainePsalm91]

@@Sunshine500-n7j….she had depression & anxiety?? well what a good guy & wonderful husband to walk out on her for somebody else rather than stay by her side & do everything he can to help her(IF that is even true). And he proclaims to be a therapist & pretends to be a Christian??? what an oxymoron.🤦‍♀️ She is well rid of him to be sure. I pray the Lord‘s abundant blessings on her for having to endure this… I’ve been there…in 1985 my husband walked out on me for somebody else breaking up our marriage & family and her marriage & family just so they could “be together.” 40 years later and he’s never showed any signs of remorse or repentance about it.😢💔❤️‍🩹 I have often wondered what people like this plan to say to the Lord when they stand before Him on judgment day.🤔😶 Maybe Joni & Doug think Jimmy Evans will be at their side to tell the Lord there’s a “Jimmy Evans version” of additional acceptable causes for divorce.🤦‍♀️

[@charmainehopkins2372]

​@anas5908 the vow one take , is in sickness and in health, so if she has depression, it's an illness. Can not keep his promises to God.

[@MOM-cx6mm]

Aren't Jimmy Evans and Joni Changing GODS WORD?

[@chrisbennett890]

The problem here is the fact that this divorce by Joni's new husband was for unbiblical reasons, no adultery. After Joni's husband Marcus died a few months later, from what I understand, Joni's new husband divorced his wife (no adultery) and married Joni. And, Joni and Marcus Lamb and Joni's new husband and his wife were best friends.

[@Grandma428]

Thank you for standing strong on the side of scripture. People in general don’t want to hear this, but that IS what Jesus said. Several years ago, I walked through a painful episode in my marriage lasting two years, where the Lord asked me to pray and wait it out. I did. The right thing to do is not always easy. Jimmy added to scripture, and that is dangerous ground. Yes, Joni’s new marriage is clearly adultery, according to Jesus’ words.

[@jeaninebrown3889]

Her former pastor was the SA pastor of a 12 year old, Robert Morris of Gateqay church in Southland, Texas

[@MT-qg8ph]

The exact same thing happened to me. My husband left and divorce me to marry another woman he was having an affair with. His dad who’s a pastor who knew about the adultery, ended up officiating their wedding and included with my kids in the ceremony as if all was ok. I’m glad the church is speaking out about this issue of adultery and cover ups in the church. I’m on a different place, removed myself from the issue, forgave as I have been forgiven of so much, and now seeking healing for my mind and heart. God’s plans for us are far better than what we leave behind. It’s all covered under His blood. Thanks for sharing.

[@beverleyappleton4317]

These people find scriptures, misinterpret and tailor fits them to justify their actions but we all have a conscience, that voice that's inside of us that speaks louder than words...

[@dianegesik7456]

She was a member of Gateway church under Robert Morris.

[@vk33771]

They need to pack it in. They're Robert Tilton done.

[@dianegesik7456]

Why are all these people out of Dallas?

[@MyHome7_Carla]

​@@dianegesik7456 and it seems like all the false teachers are from the prosperity goddess teachings or WOF! Not a coincidence!

[@kevinevans8892]

​@@dianegesik7456demographics. Texas is one of the most wealthiest states in the US. That's why so many of these hucksters move there

[@joanwatkins3022]

Doug strikes me as a gold digger; after Marcus died, he swooped in. Apparently Joni was in a loveless marriage for decades, and was extremely vulnerable. I support Jonathan and Suzy!!

[@Sunshine500-n7j]

Weiss was married 2 times before. He got divorced, and Weiss took the blame because he was gone a lot, they had little communication and his ex wife had depression and anxiety anyway. (per his words)

[@yhwhtlc9217]

I found nothing that indicated he was married before Lisa. Please provide a link to where that information is, otherwise you are spreading lies.

[@Sunshine500-n7j]

@ well it sounds like you are spreading lies. I would not sell my soul over somebody else’s sins. I will find it. You probably looked on Google

[@Sunshine500-n7j]

@ the link is below and I found it easily, I would say you are the liar

[@sistagirl6006]

​@yhwhtlc9217 it's true, do a thorough Google search.

[@tripleyoker2049]

@@Sunshine500-n7jI’d say it’s a bot

[@peterchudleigh6708]

Thankyou pastor Michael. I was following Jimmy Evans. For a few years because of the connection with Jan Markel. I'm disappointed but thankyou

[@jmramella]

I was also following him because of Jan Markel. I will never listen to him again. I hope Jan Markel never has any interactions with him,

[@mary-janechambers3596]

Me too. I watch Jan Markel but I’m concerned that Mark Hitchcock (who has a channel with Jimmy Evans) may be compromised.

[@jeremybrooks7415]

Who are Jan Markel and Mark Hitchcock?

[@Wildernessvoice58]

​Jan Markel is the head of Olive Branch ministries. Both she and Jimmy Evans are big into prophecy.

[@jeremybrooks7415]

@Wildernessvoice58 thank you.

[@esthernail3810]

I was married for 14 years and my husband left me for another woman. The church gathered around me to support encourage me. They never made me feel unloved … they were encouraging and supportive… so what Joni is taking about is talking about how they treat someone who is “ unbiblically “ divorced … and I Know that’s a totally different story! As the Bible says, what fellowship does light have with darkness? !

[@doglover19601]

From my experience when I was divorced and going to a Baptist church, the married woman treat divorced women like dirt. Even the pastors wife

[@shealovesjesuschrist]

@@doglover19601 that’s a church to walk away from.

[@doglover19601]

@ I did

[@fleurettevanheerden2955]

She's a very persuasive woman. Just look at how people give her billions to give " every dollar" to Israel and at how much control of the broadcasting of God's Word she has through Daystar. Now the subscribed preachers may face being in total agreement with her every word and action or else....( check what happens to Jonathan and Suzy when they disagree with her).

[@sylviaruth5008]

About 10 years ago I listened to a video where Jimmy Evan’s totally overlooked and justified an adulterous situation. I had forgotten about that until this Daystar mess came up. When I heard Jimmy supporting Joni it did not surprise me at all. Jimmy Evan’s is not right.

[@lindapreciado5349]

I think she’s trying to justify herself, his poor wife SMH

[@dianeandjesus]

I think by now she is feeling that God has delivered her from that player. I imagine life with him was awful.

[@faithasaseed]

She had to have signed the divorce paper so maybe she's doing better then we think

[@catherinegay1404]

I was a member of Gateway. I saw the Lambs there twice, and they had Robert Morris on their show several times. Gateway was their church.

[@maryarmstrong615]

So u only saw them there twice. How does that justify thy were members? Any1 can visit twice

[@catherinegay1404]

@maryarmstrong615 so true! Thanks for bringing this to my attention. They had Robert Morris on & said he was their pastor.

[@jmkqfnvyl87]

If jimmy’s advice weighs higher than Paul’s exhortation to older widows that’s when you have a problem. .

[@fleurettevanheerden2955]

Hope there's no intention of securing her partnership by promoting her new partner at her son's expense.

[@samuelm.5752]

What I read in the Bible, adultery is when you divorce and remarry another while your former spouse is still alive. So if you divorce and your former spouse is alive, you must stay celibate.

[@JOHNNY-nu1fm]

The "Fixer" played a role in the Gateway Debacle before he was asked to leave!

[@Logston1962]

Her pastor was Robert Morris ( Gateway Church)

[@jjd1983]

Thank you Pastor for posting theTruth!

[@KiKi-tf8rv]

I’ve had to advise divorce two times to two different friends. It was devastating. Both times were due to absolute necessity for their protection and the protection of their children. I *didn’t* recommend remarriage, and neither of them have remarried. I believe - although it would be a miracle - that there is a possibility God could restore one of the marriages. But even if He doesn’t, my friends are remaining faithful to their vows and to their convictions even though, Biblically and legally they were required to separate from their husbands.

[@kevincoggeshall3079]

Evans and Joni are a big DISAPPOINTMENT

[@virginiakung1180]

Joni's pastor was Robert Morris at Gateway Church, Jimmy Evan was one of the elders at Gateway until he was let go, rumors said he was trying to keep Robert Morris from returning when he was sick and gave Jimmy Evan the authority to look after the church.

[@triciajones5967]

Joni used to attend Gateway Church because she referred to Robert Morris as her pastor.

[@annahreid1214]

THANK YOU The issue is adultery !This whole time they have been in an unlawful marriage AND now it is being SHOUTED out ! Joni is to be an example to the body of Christ God is judging her publicly BECAUSE she boasted this adultery publicly

[@Carol-ye7vw]

Strange Jimmy is so quiet

[@seamcheck11]

Where in the Bible says you can divorce without it being adultery involved? Did Jimmy even talk to Doug’s wife about the divorce and get her side of the story or just did he get Doug’s side of the story? I don’t understand why he didn’t talk to Doug‘s ex-wife . Maybe it wasn’t all her fault because normally it takes two to cause problems and and end up in divorce. I don’t think Joni got a good counselor in this Tim that has biblical problems also. If he’s the preacher that talked about Jesus calling him a stripper this is totally blasphemous.. Joni should have got a better counselor.

[@barbaragermain3713]

Joni was good friends with Doug's wife for decades. That is one point that is Sickening

[@CocoCamcourt]

These things may call for separation, but not remarriage …. even after divorce That is adultery!!!! Joni Lamb return to the true teachings Jesus!!!!

Too bad Lisa couldn't talk. She probably had to sign an order to stay quiet.

[@sybilgelderbloem4212]

This is jyst a question : If your spouse has physically beaten you to the point of death multiple times, what are you supposed to do ?

[@Pastor_Grant]

Get out of the house and call the police.

[@pamscott7430]

I’m confused and is new to your channel. So you saying if someone is being abuse d that they should deal with it? It’s a lot in the Bible that it’s not stated, however you think God wants you to stay in an abusive marriage?😮😮

[@Pastor_Grant]

You need to listen to the whole video. Separate yourself from the situation. Call the police but the Bible doesn't teach It's justification for divorce.

[@MOM-cx6mm]

​@Pastor_Grant yes, my mom was physically abused by my dad and she separated from him but never got divorced and never picked up with another man while still married and after my dad passed on. Many women can't do this. My sister got divorced on adultery and abandonment and never remarried. She just lives for the Lord. My mom too just lived for GOD.

[@markgoff7076]

Marriage is to be supported by God, the church, the extended family, society at large, and most importantly by the continued efforts of both marriage partners. This is evidenced by creation, nature, the ten commandments, the needs of children who are needing the wholesome influence of a caring mother and father. If there is a lack of support in any of these support systems for marriage, marriage becomes tenuous and fragile. God expects us " overall " to always honor His Institution. You, like many of us seek to discredit the absolute vital need of constant vigilance in affirming the vital importance of marriage based on individual cases. Ok, I get that...But as Christian believers, I want you to hear me, must never deviate from the overall ( as differentiated from individual cases) support for marriage, if we want God's will to be done. Failure to do so results in the collapse of moral society. As to cases of abuse and abandonment and physical dangers...wow...what can be said....no one should have to....I hear a lot of religious people claiming to have God's power. But divorce rates continue to climb. We need God's power in marriage more than ever. A healthy church is a good start....add to that the reverential fear of The Lord, humility, faithfulness, perseverance, wisdom, council patience and it starts to become possible again. And money (industriousness) and good management of resources.....wait a minute if we do all this we might actually start enjoying marriage....and...dare I say....love one another again?

[@mernarobinson5944]

So if a man is beating his wife and children to the point where their lives are in danger, she still can’t divorce him??? That’s the kind of teaching that kept my mother in an abusive relationship for 32 years. As result of that, 10 broken and damaged children that are passing on the cycle of abuse to the next generation. 10 broken shoulder that don’t even know what a healthy loving relationship looks like. Stop focusing on the person that is trying to survive and focus on the person that is the abuser. What does God say about him or her?

[@Pastor_Grant]

You're not listening

[@commonsense9755]

You get all wrong. When a woman is abuse in any way by her husband, there IS NOT in the Scripture that obligated her to stay. She has to decide to stay or to leave. Most of the time abuse women decide to stay. Incomprehensible. If she is a Christians she didn't know her authority and power in Jesus Christ.pardon my English

[@CallMeErie]

@@Pastor_GrantI was listening to you. In fact, after I saw your response to @mernarobinson5944 I rewatched the video. What I heard you say is that abuse and addiction are not biblical grounds for divorce. Perhaps you can explain what you meant and what people who are trying to honor God, but are also suffering abuse should do. If you are not saying that they should just endure the abuse, then you should plainly state that.

[@jancoley9051]

​@@Pastor_Grant That was a harsh response. "Your not listening" I listened and I read the transcript. The only place where you did address abuse was in the first comment. Anyway, why couldn't you repeat it to this person that obviously was hurting, maybe reliving some of that trauma and didn't read your comment, since your were taking the time to comment. It sounded angry. I hope you apologize to them. It would not hurt. I did appreciate your teachings, but that response was really cold and unnecessary. Unbelievable, dear pastor.

[@carolynking6874]

Jimmy Evans was writing his own Bible😡

[@vocalpelican]

Why is abuse a cause for divorce? Because the abuser has broken the covenantal marriage vow, so the victim is no longer under obligation to honor those vows. Furthermore, women and children aren't the only ones who get abused. And yes, there's more than one kind of abuse, and the Lord never intended for marriage to be a prison for one partner to abuse the other for the rest of that person's life.

[@dianeandjesus]

Doug Weiss was not "abused" 😒

[@MehitabelAllie]

@vocalpelican Well, Hi there, Jimmy! 😂🤣🤣