Pastoral Group Judging | Crufts 2020

[@caroldawson6692]

I love that little Lancashire Heeler, what a true working farmers dog and a great character too!

[@Wemius61]

I had one - she was a great little dog. Not overburdened with brains, but she was my heart dog. I miss her.

[@shakeel92001]

Hi hi yy@@Wemius61 you yyuee r

[@eemmzzz]

I have a working line german shepherd for a reason. He has a nice straight back and great hips. Seeing the slope on that poor dog's back was upsetting. No idea why people would find that attractive

[@suecastillo4056]

Bravo!!❤️🙋‼️

[@jamesminiaturespace]

It’s always funny looking at ‘best of breeds’ that look absolutely nothing like their working counterparts. And not in a good way!

[@TheSuperi9]

i agree coming from a standard poodle and cane corso lover

[@suecastillo4056]

Settings Settings Love both those breeds!🥰

[@amandaturner8928]

Well and truly said!🐨👍

[@adorapenfold9987]

It is ridiculous how people are allowed to breed the german shepherd the way its is with that sloping back it is really upsetting to see and it looks so unnatural and unattractive and more importantly it is putting the dog in such discomfort. This needs to stop!

[@wendyrowland7787]

Adora Penfold yes it is so sad that GSDs have their lives shortened by hind leg paralysis.

[@Jenny-kt2xj]

The dog in this video is not as extreme as previous GSDs seen at Crufts, so it's a step in the right direction. The dog still has a roach back, and there is a problem with frog-legged GSDs. However the showing "pose" can be misleading, as the hindquarters are placed far back, making the dog's back appear even more sloped. Posing a dog without a roach back in this position will also cause it to appear to have a sloped back. Edit: The dog in the above video also has cow hocks, so not great

[@deniseshephard3347]

@@Jenny-kt2xj I remember from 2 years ago there was this one German shephard who was extreme and went on win best in show

[@mam0971]

Agree

[@sail253]

i dont like it either..they should breed them to be more stong and healthy

[@Voyager_AU]

I'm glad the narrator talked about how Crufts was trying to do away with "exaggeration" on the German Shepard breed.

[@thoraneh7365]

I mean its a start but as much as people can talk the talk the dogs need to be able to walk the walk. Actions speak louder than words and this GSD had an awful back

[@Sandy33569]

Thoran EH It takes a LONG time to change an aspect of a breed like this while also retaining overall quality of the dog in other parts. You can’t prioritize fixing their backs as you’d start to be more likely to drop the quality of the dogs in other ways. Hard to then work on bringing those back.

[@tdk9518]

@@Sandy33569 I know which I would priorities though.

[@Sandy33569]

Td K You can’t just prioritize fixing the back on the dogs. You’ll end up with problems elsewhere and a drop in quality very quickly.

[@suecastillo4056]

Lilia I got out of shepherds for that reason! Although the gsd breeders were the first ones to start working on dysplaysia problems by xrays primarily, but there’s a host of other stuff! But one has to start somewhere! Breeding sound dogs is so important! Gotta work from the inside out...

[@catiejanb2587]

As a Smooth Collie owner I was glad the commentator mentioned that the smooth has all the benefits of a Collie but none of the hassles of a long coat. I love both but for ease of maintenance the smooth is truly superior.

[@Embracing01]

I would agree. I have a Rough Collie and they can be difficult to maintain and a wire brush is required. And they moult really bad. No wonder they're not very popular. Mine comes back after a walk with twigs and thorns stuck to his hair lol.

[@pygiana16]

Sorry to correct Frank Kane but corgi is not “Celtic for dog”. As a Welsh speaker I can tell him it is Welsh for dwarf or short dog.

[@WhirlyPearly]

Pygiana don’t be sorry I’ve people call my Corgi an midget dog, people are arse holes

[@liivdunham]

I know NOTHING about these competitions so my only reaction is: LOOK AT ALL THOSE GOOD BOYS AND GIRLS

[@yusufcanbaz8194]

U could just say good bios

[@personalDM]

Most of these dogs have very little resemble to their original hard working, corageous types, dogs that had tons of courage, personality, and a more muscular and strong built...it's particularly sad to watch the poor deformed show line GSD and the nervous, weak Belgian Shepherds

[@mycrazylife8980]

personalDM Same thing here that’s why I prefer both from working lines

[@wendyrowland7787]

When they breed for looks they breed the brains out.

[@karinjohansson7262]

@@wendyrowland7787 such an ignorant person you are.

[@juliakax4255]

showline is standard, the originals. Lots of showlines still have capability to work, just not the same need for it. 🤷‍♀️

[@personalDM]

@@juliakax4255 All the "originals" were bred to work hard (not for the looks or standar) at least in the pastoral or shepherd group.

[@Coolrecords567]

What the hell is wrong with breeders breeding that sloped back into the German shepherd

[@essynthtempest3326]

Marli Harper I completely agree, I’ve been raised with German Shepherds and I hated seeing one with a sloped back.

[@incognitomode2616]

As a nitpick, the slope isn’t really intentional. The problem with show German Shepherds is that the show ring has become obsessed with excessive angulation in the rear. GSDs are a tending breed. They herd by circling the flock and acting as a living fence. This herding style is helped by extra rear angulation, causing a very slight slope and leading to a more efficient gait. However, American show lines have gone off the deep end in this regard. They’ve basically been breeding for exaggerated structure for decades. Nowadays breeders are trying to undo the damage, but it will take time. You cannot undo decades of bad breeding in a week or even a year. It takes many generations of dogs to fix things. Until things are fixed, the German Shepherds you see in the ring will probably look wonky. They will draw in cries of “poor slope backed cripples” as the change is gradual.

[@antoinedescours2459]

There's no "similarities" between the beauceron and the briard. The briard was develloped by crossing the beauceron with the barbet

[@johnain01]

Spot on. It is mildly irritating. Mr Google tells us that the Briard was bred by the same two people as the LOVELY Beauceron. I met my first Beauceron in the French Army as a kid. and I have been lucky enough to have (and still have) another now. What a dog! He herds my Cattle, but seldom leaves my side and I would die for him. John

[@devman1950]

Actually the Australian Shepherd was developed into a show dog in the Western US.

[@wendyrowland7787]

John Jones so there is no excuse for the savage tail docking. A dog deserves to be able to express itself.

[@aidahehir9429]

Wendy Rowland the reason the tail is docked is so the cattle don’t step on its tail

[@wendyrowland7787]

Aida Hehir but they are not working now are they? In any case this is nonsense, a herding dog that can’t shift itself is not much good. A dog needs it’s tail to balance on sharp turns and to express itself. How on earth do Border Collies manage with tails? Americans are too fond of chopping bits off dogs, illegal in the UK on welfare grounds.

[@hannieziegel8626]

Why is the tail docked? I thought that practice was outlawed long ago?

[@wendyrowland7787]

Hannie Ziegel There is a difference between docking and amputation. I don’t agree with either, but in a working environment a short tail may be good for the dog. At least it can still express itself. Springer Spaniels tails wag so hard they tear them in scrub. No excuse for show dogs and yes why are Crufts endorsing an illegal practise.

[@debbienorvell1707]

My favorite of course is the Great Pyrenees who I lost a few months ago being just over 12 years old. He was my baby, the love of my life, a good guard dog and loved food! Miss you Jasper ♥

[@Coolrecords567]

So sorry for your loss and I do agree Great Pyrenees is an amazing breed🙏☺️

[@debbienorvell1707]

@@Coolrecords567 Thank you. Pyrenees as an average only live to be 10 yrs old so I had the extra time with him. Not one mean bone in his body but a great guard dog as I said

[@exkelsior1486]

I have one I love with my whole heart. She LOVES my infant son and will often try to go in to check on him (much to my chagrin). Seeing a shetland sheepdog up against a pyrenees is hard since shelties are my childhood dog! I love herding dogs!

[@debbienorvell1707]

@@exkelsior1486 You lucky lady! Yes, they do love children and their moms. Jasper followed me no matter where I went into my home that includes the bathroom! At the time when my husb was living he made a roast beef in the oven. As it was done he placed it near the edge of the stove still in it's pan. I was at my pc and he was coming out of the bathroom heading for the kitchen. He told me to get into the kitchen for a minute. OMG! Jasper had the entire roast beef in his mouth and there was no way of getting it back. It was his! He ate the entire thing not getting sick either. The only thing Jasper was scared of were thunderstorms. When my doorbell rang and I tried to get up to answer it he literally took a hold of one of my wrists and tried to tug lightly so I would not answer the door. He never hurt me once. Enjoy her, love her and on her. She is already protecting your son and you of course. What is her name?

[@gamingtv2841]

Aww I'm sorry for your loss! He is in doggie heaven now. ❤ They are a really good breed and I love how gentle they are and would protect their owner at any cost. I'm thinking about getting a dog but I'm gonna have to do some research to find the perfect breed for me, I love how they have such a postive impact on your life and I feel like I really need that in my life too. Are you thinking about getting another Pyrenees?

[@adorapenfold9987]

Love the Puli such a charismatic unique little dog

[@squidleyskidley]

Wow the male commentator doesn’t seem to be paying attention to anything the female commentator says! He keeps repeating exactly the same things. And even just flat out ignored a question directed at him about the hair covering the eyes. Listen, dude!!

[@colinedwards7367]

Anatolian Shepard dog is used in successfully South Africa for guarding sheep flocks from mountain leopards.

[@pvncat]

Anatolians & Kangals are gorgeous dogs... very healthy too. Deserve to win

[@emsnewssupkis6453]

And the show sheepdog is horrible, what a miserable mess. Real old English sheepdogs don't look anything like this 'winner'.

[@pvncat]

Emsnews Supkis I agree. I’m just very upset with the overall result 🙄 crufts judges being bias and favouring small breeds. Pick a real dog!!

[@aidahehir9429]

Emsnews Supkis the coat is like that to blend in with the sheep, so yes it does have a purpose

[@STRAF34RRProductions]

I have an Old English Sheepdog, I always thought how bizarre their fur looks when grown out ridiculously long and extremely combed, I prefer them more shaggy haired or short, though I appreciate the owner didn't bob this dog's tail. Our's has shorter fur, varies around I'd say 3-4 inches to 8-10 inches before he's groomed again, and they look amazing, more personality in their appearance, easier to handle, and I personally believe they look even better. My profile picture is my dog.

[@xxTheRaven1311xx]

Please stop putting the winner in the thumbnail!! Ruined the surprise 😤

[@Rapunzelrapunzel093]

Steph Dobson Came here to say the exact same thing!! I might as well stop watching.

[@mam0971]

I Agree but I also come for the info and not so much for the winner.

[@Aethuviel]

The Swedish vallhund was not used for herding reindeer... where did they even get that? It's from the *south* of Sweden where they were used to herd *cattle* . It's a viking dog, not a sami dog.

[@adorapenfold9987]

I completely agree they should not be spreading false info about these breeds

[@wendyrowland7787]

These commentators could at least do their homework.

[@Aethuviel]

Noticed later that he read "Swedish LAPPHUND". So the information was correct, but for the wrong breed that wasn't there...

[@Voyager_AU]

The coat of the Australian Shepard dog at 9:10 looks so soft.

[@carlotafrutuosa6576]

So true i wish i could have that dog

[@horselover7744]

That aussie looks lovely 💓💓💓 (Hope the tail wasn't docked ) (Hate the collars/leashes on the dogs though :( )

[@karinjohansson7262]

Their coat are very soft.

[@karinjohansson7262]

@@horselover7744 they can come with or without tail. My niece have one with a tail.

[@tonylang7526]

TY FOR RECOGNIZING THE MAJESTY OF THE LARGE BREEDS!!!

[@taylosaurus]

Australian Shepherds were developed in the United States..

[@ryotaarai3816]

Do they have an actual cattle herding competition? Because i'd love to see one. Fastest dog to navigate a group of ducks out of a maze or something 😆

[@personalDM]

sad but probably most of these show dogs lack the physical and intelectual capabilities needed to even dare to participate in a real herding competition

[@aidahehir9429]

personalDM agility requires both of the things you just said so I don’t get your point

[@user-xm1od9nb1m]

@@personalDM a lot of working dogs are bread from show dogs :/ where I live you have to show dogs to be able to bread. They have loads of different working competitions as well on crufts

[@daisaigaming6836]

2:56 look at that german shepard hips, simply terrible.

[@suecastillo4056]

I agree... the poor dogs a mess... not to mention his handler is one of the worst I’ve ever seen...

[@clarewhite3004]

I was very happy to hear the commentator say that the Kennel Club is teaching judges to value normal healthy movement over unnaturally sloped hips.

[@Weirdanimalboy]

You have x-ray vision and can detect a dog's hip dysplasia without any radiographs. Sounds false, but okay.

[@Weirdanimalboy]

His hips have scores as almost as good as they can get, with 0 being the best and 106 being the worst. He's at an 11. What he does appear to have is elbow dysplasia, but you never hear people whining about elbows on the internet, now do you?

[@sabrinacle]

Daisai Gaming I agree. Shameful sight

[@kasemahasema]

the old english sheepdog is amazing! 29:32

[@natascia7185]

The Komondor has beautiful coat corded! Italian breeding of Maremmano and Corgie Pembroke 😀💞.

[@sarahanderson8811]

It’s a shame the rough collie got shortlisted, they’re one of my favourite breeds😊

[@jillgarlick2122]

I just loved the Briard. Gorgeous.

[@sarikas1352]

Handler should run is nice speed...good to have young handlers

[@treehouse2902]

They are all so beautiful.

[@eliakimjosephsophia4542]

Lovely winner

[@wendyrowland7787]

Corgi is actually Welsh for dwarf dog.

[@vx2701]

Anadolu coban kopegi ve sivas kangali icin geldim gordum gurur duydum.

[@cresselia1]

Omg that black Hungarian collie 😍

[@Voyager_AU]

The Old English Sheepdog is ALL hair lol

[@Frostgrl681]

And outstandingly gorgeous!!!!! I could only wish to do an editorial photoshoot of him. All of that beauty and that fantastic coif should be preserved.

[@emsnewssupkis6453]

It is HORRIBLE. I used to raise sheep and had a real 'old English sheepdog' and these do not have the ridiculous hair all over it. Less than half the fur, you can see them still on farms, that is, the real working dog not the horrible show dog types.

[@carlotafrutuosa6576]

Omg i just cant believe that the judge chose one portuguese breed (estrela moutain, in portuguese- cão da serra da estrela) for the small group. Im soooo happy. GO PORTUGAL

[@richardszabo8365]

Please more komondor owner beacuse this is the best guard dog of the world.

[@buak809]

that carpet dog at 3:17 LMAO

[@pinkcupcake4717]

The Hungarian Puli is an adorable little mop!

[@ioanna1189]

The rasta dog is beautiful ♥️♥️♥️. I want to do my hair like his😊... All of them of course!!!!

[@Nikki-tx6kh]

Definitely my favourite for BiS. I love English Sheepdogs. First the sheepdog, second option, the Setter

[@emsnewssupkis6453]

I had real sheep dogs the grey and white rough fur for snow and rain...the dogs live with the sheep and guard them from predators here in the US like cougars, bobcats, wolves and cyotetes.

[@gabrieldogtrainer]

a very insecure Malinois shepherd, it is horrible to see a dog with great potential for protection in this way. And then there's this German shepherd with his back bowed. Dogs must be selected for their function (of course, respecting breed standards).

[@horselover7744]

It was sad to see :(

[@dixiewhite2698]

I've seen some amazing Malinois working as police dogs, this one was so insecure it's just sad.

[@gabrieldogtrainer]

@@dixiewhite2698 the trivia of seeing

[@masterchefvintage8566]

Turkish kangal😍😍👍👍🇹🇷

[@oijosukeiliveinyourwalls5798]

glad to see them getting popularity

[@GiniLeeRedSquirel]

I dont see the Picard sheepdog... why they put in the list? But it's ok for the WSS

[@danielledewitt1]

I didn’t hear anything about picard sheepdog.

[@GiniLeeRedSquirel]

@@danielledewitt1 but they had a list in description.

[@danielledewitt1]

@@GiniLeeRedSquirel You made that breed up.

[@GiniLeeRedSquirel]

@@danielledewitt1 ?? I'm french, I know what breed we had, Picardy Sheepdog is a medium scruffy hair dog, with strong personality but they are less popular than Briard or Beauceron Sheepdop (who are in competition with english and australian breed, because they are modern standard dog in for herd guarding). Hope they can shine in US with Winn-Dixie movie. And hope who know how to use google and KZbin just for see their happy face.

[@danielledewitt1]

@@GiniLeeRedSquirel I’m sure you misread the list.

[@darlenevm]

Judge Luis Pinto Teixeira is my absolute favorite!!! I can’t believe I get to see him in action at Crufts! I’ve seen him judging at other dog shows (the one that comes to mind is when he judged the Toy Group at Welks), so this is exciting. He’s so knowledgeable. I’m a little surprised at the too casual attire worn by the Komondor handler. Her hair colour is lovely, though, and the dog is gorgeous.

[@vhrios2008]

Is Mr. Teixeira from Portugal?

[@darlenevm]

Victor Sheltie Rivers - Yes, he’s from Portugal. I wouldn’t be surprised if Mr. Teixeira judges Best In Show at Crufts one day.

[@vhrios2008]

@@darlenevm Thanks. Now, I remember him. He has already judged in Brazil, where I am from.

[@darlenevm]

Victor Sheltie Rivers - That’s awesome!

[@vhrios2008]

@@darlenevm On October, 5, 2013. One of my girls got from Mr. Teixeira, BOB & CACIB, at our local kennel club.

[@Tubenuub]

24:47 always strange to hear the correct use of the term "bitch" lmao

[@udomante]

"...Australian Shepherds were developed in Australia..." ?!?! :O :O :O Despite it's name, the Australian Shepherd originated in the western U.S., NOT Australia!!! How can such misleading information be presented on such show?!?! Really hoped I've heard something wrong watching it live :( :(

[@antoinedescours2459]

LOl these dogs were "develloped" in the basque country, between France and Spain. They were already working many centuries before the simple existence of the U.S or Australia. Putting a stamp on them and calling them "australians" or "americans" won't change that fact

[@udomante]

@@antoinedescours2459 LOL every decent aussie lover knows such information about breed's origin, I wrote what the Kennel Club states... :/:/:/ I think it's obvious that there is no time to present the breed starting from it's roots, every breed gets ~2-3 sentences. But Australian Shepherds neither were "developed", nor "got a stamp as a breed" in Australia and it's a shame such nonsense information appeared on "the greatest dog event in the world" from judges mouths, twice...

[@antoinedescours2459]

@@udomante Look, you're both wrong. They're wrong to say that this dog originated in Australia, and you're wrong to say that he's originated in U.S. This dog originated in the basque country. The saddest part is that you and them, both apparently connoisseurs of the breed, know that perfectly. But I don't want to blame you to much ; to conclude their lie matter because they're here to educate the public and as you said they're misleading him. They have an obvious english bias, often unsufferable

[@udomante]

@@antoinedescours2459 I'm not a judge, I'm not presenting the breed to thousands of people and I wrote a sentence about the breed origin that can be found in pretty much all Kennel Clubs descriptions about the breed. If you think it's wrong, address it to KC, FCI, ASCA and etc.

[@antoinedescours2459]

@@udomante OK I got you. I think I'm indeed irritated by these guys. I was here for the briard. The commentator speaking here was the judge who selected the best for that breed so he's supposed to know what he's talking about, and his presentation was awful. He failed to indicate any ancestry ( which is very-well established ), and succeed not to say anything relevant but that "there's some good cheese there". Simply stupid

[@piamarkkanen5966]

Lancashire Heeler

[@stevischermi6409]

Good ol Winston, number 1

[@woodie858]

My best dog is a Finnish Lapphund!

[@sianchild]

Border collies are the best dogs, but the sentient mops are very entertaining

[@DebWDiver]

What a stunning happy Sammy :-)

[@suecastillo4056]

Fabulous...

[@oijosukeiliveinyourwalls5798]

4:44 King arising

[@deec575]

Kangal 😍

[@johannalapuste4720]

urgh ugly

[@rickthecockatiel3133]

I think kangal dog has 5 nails on all four paws

[@craigwiggins1]

Why do the exhibitors feel they have to move their dogs so fast? The dogs are supposed to TROT, not gallop! The judge has a hard time evaluating the gait if they're moving this fast.

[@staplecrab]

Very handsome Blue Heeler

[@mdsahinoffical519]

dogs that had tons of courage, personality, and a more muscular and strong built..

[@tomatoepaste4717]

My final choice too

[@keysersoze4322]

Horrific slant on the GSD.

[@suecastillo4056]

It is that... the top line is humped and the rear so sloped... yet? I’ve seen worse! They’re really ruining the breed. Not to mention that breed has a specific stack... not squared up like all the other breeds... awful handler🤭😕 it’s a shame...

[@emsnewssupkis6453]

@@suecastillo4056 All deliberately encourage by 'dog shows'. Such a crime. But this sort of distortion of good working dogs is across nearly all show breeds: they are not the best of show but the worst of all dogs. Nearly all are useless for their former functions.

[@suecastillo4056]

Emsnews Supkis I agree! I know very few that are able to do the job they were bred for... I do though, know many that ARE getting certificates and classes and just plain good ol’ work in herding, ratting, etc. and also sleep in the house as a family member... so important to try to keep as much integrity in breeds as possible... we have lost so many to irresponsible breeders... chows being one also... a prominent breeder of many years ago said out loud that they’d rather have an unsound showdog than a sound pet... that’s exactly what they said... exact words... out loud and in front of a bunch of us at an after show party... so what do new people do with THAT?! Blew me away... 😮🤭😳‼️

[@emsnewssupkis6453]

@@suecastillo4056 Yes, that is very irresponsible. What is worse is, these inbreeding messes are purely for 'looks' and not 'function'. Everything gets exaggerated until it makes the dogs useless for whatever purposes.

[@LincolnTheLabrador]

"These dogs should be balanced and free from exaggeration" Is that in the breed standard and if so how are these dogs getting through, and why is crufts accepting dogs that are deformed to that point, this german shepherd is a lot better than previous ones but still

[@lucysmith7546]

If I had to pick one I would bearded collie:)

[@artiicom]

The gsd seemed very nice for the most part, but those feet 😢

[@wendyrowland7787]

The german shepherd had the least fluent action in the ring.

[@Embracing01]

The Rough Collie has to be one of the least popular of the Pastoral group despite the breed known famously as the Lassie dog. A well known breed but certainly not a popular and common one, wouldn't say rare but certainly not popular like some of the well known breeds. I have a Rough Collie and I have to say they are hard to maintain because of their long hair, and the one I have the hair is like velcro and any small branch of twig/thorns that rubs against the coat can stick to their hair. Not a breed for those who want low maintenance grooming and don't want the living room carpet full of moulting hair, which is probably why they aren't popular.

[@Sandy33569]

Surprised the largest entry was Border Collies. Are they just popular show dogs there?? Because that isn’t the case in the US. Many many people (at least here) don’t agree that they should have ever been accepted by the AKC and turned into a show dog. Plenty of people who refuse to acknowledge the dogs bred as anything but working/herding dogs as a Border Collie. They’re not popular show dogs in the US at all. Figured it was the same within/nearer to their home countries, at least.

[@KatieG871]

Lilia not having a go at anyone so don’t take it the wrong way but the breed has been completely changed in America compared to what it is in the uk and Australia. You guys have really gone away from some of the essentials, the main being moderate.but also I would say things like the working style being shown and pricked ears being accepted etc. which is something that has just been introduced in Australia to spite so many breeders speaking against it. But I think those kinds of things have probably made them not as competitive there compared to other breeds which could be why they seem not as popular. I’ve definitely seen a few nice borders in the states but they probably don’t get the same recognition that they would here or in the UK just because of that change of breed standard?

[@tdk9518]

Can't say I blame them looking at what the showring does to what should be functional working breeds.

[@Sandy33569]

Georgia Leslie The dogs I see in the show ring in the UK most definitely look very much similar to what’s in the US in the sense that they are NOT what are being used ideally by those who work their Border Collies. It’s not just a US thing, so I don’t really get your point on that.

[@Sandy33569]

Td K The world has changed. People don’t use dogs as much as they used to, so better to at least preserve a breed as long as they are healthy. If they weren’t being bred for show/more so for companionship/or even for sport, the breed could become more endangered (and this goes for a lot of breeds, some of who have nearly gone extinct in recent times).

[@starry99]

Most border collie dogs in the united kingdom are not show dogs, they’re either working sheepdogs, pet border collies or border collies that compete in other disciplines. They’re just a popular show dog because they are a very popular breed in general in the U.K. They didn’t become a recognised KC breed until around 1977 which is late compared to many other breeds as many border collie breeders didn’t breed to a ‘breed standard’, they bred for the dogs ability to work. i don’t know much about US border collie lines so i cannot comment

[@SarahJones-wy5us]

AGAIN WHY SHOW THE WINNER ON YOU TUBE PICTURE WE LIKE TO PICK OUR OWN CHOICE NOT KNOW THE RESULT BEFORE JUDGING RUINS IT FOR PEOPLE WHO DID NOT SEE IT LIVE RUBBISH.

[@letsreadtextbook1687]

Hush hush it's ok...

[@SarahJones-wy5us]

@@letsreadtextbook1687 Do not patronise,we are dog enthusiasts and disappointed by the presentation of this on you tube .

[@ivanobaja6765]

Agree

[@cooperolm9687]

watch it live next time

[@SarahJones-wy5us]

@@cooperolm9687 working.

[@recycledMilk]

i LOVE that this entire comment section is tearing apart the ridiculous and harmful breedstandarts for the roach back GSH, we need actual healthy dogs!

[@LunaTemari]

I felt the Briard should have been in the top 4, that old english sheepdog was an awful pick;; but oh well.. better luck next time.

[@agirlhasn0name]

Lol, people who can't even spell shepherd gonna complain... (& it's not just a matter of being a poor speller. Failing to realize that it's shep-HERD suggests a general lack of knowledge.)

[@juliaschwender404]

You can believe in something right even if you can't spell.

[@狗仔-x9n]

WHICH IS YOUR FAVORITE BREED?

[@fafniricedragon5832]

7:57 - No! Don't touch my butt!

[@stevebeaumont6723]

Just fyi… buhunds don’t come in red

[@tdk9518]

So the group winner which beat the top show dog in the UK had an incorrect bite!!!

[@tdk9518]

To be fair I suppose it is an outstanding dog in every other way.

[@zai6373]

Why they run like NPC in games hahaha

[@oijosukeiliveinyourwalls5798]

So many gsd comments on sloppy back just enjoy kangal and pyrenees they are kings

[@endor8witch]

that german shepherd is grotesque..it cant even run! my god....what are they doing to this breed? why is crufts allowing this?

[@rogermanvell4693]

the belgian shepherds are no longer the same breed look at the difference in movement malinois is the most athletic the tervuren the least i.e most ruined.

[@M00s3r]

Never seen so many dogs unnerved by a judge before. not sure if it's young, inexperienced dogs, or him. Male commentator is a pillock.

[@jamies3553]

that shepherd is probably the ugliest one over ever seen

[@johannalapuste4720]

are you stupid? he is beautyfull

[@oijosukeiliveinyourwalls5798]

@@johannalapuste4720 the turkish shepherd kangal yes gsd was too but damn stupid sloppy back

[@gabrieldogtrainer]

um Pastor Belga de Malinois muito inseguro, é horrível ver um cão com grande potencial para guarda dessa forma. Fora esse Pastor Alemão com a traseira inclinada. Cães deveriam ser selecionados por sua função (é claro, respeitando os padrões da raça).

[@7494jon]

How come a docked dog - obviously illegal in the UK - was even allowed to ENTER Crufts let alone get voted 2nd by the judges. It should have been DISQUALIFIED not a winner!! (ASD)

[@jadewelling3459]

naturally bobbed

[@7494jon]

The have long tails naturally

[@marianatoma6355]

@@7494jon Some Aussies are born with naturally bobbed tails

[@sail253]

its done with a stretchy band and it falls off on its own when the puppy is very young, its not painful

[@karinjohansson7262]

@@7494jon both.

[@townjester8488]

I love oe sheepdogs (I have one myself) but god I hate the way they get groomed for shows. I can’t believe that the sheepdog won, it looked so ugly 😣

[@webbess1]

That OES cannot see at all.

[@danielledewitt1]

They can see.

[@marykyle6611]

The commenters do not know the breed- to say that the Belgian are all the same dog with different coats is not true. They are all quite different from each other. And saying Alsatians were GSD's is completely wrong- there are NO Alsatians now. It was a Breed on its own. NOT GSD.

[@ayayumi6111]

They ARE considered the same breed by the FCI. They're interbreedable, and share the same standard with the exception of the differing coat types and colors.

[@Weirdanimalboy]

The Belgian Shepherds are all the same breed, simply with differences in coat color and coat type. That is literally how the entire world views and breeds them, outside from the American Kennel Club in the US.

[@TheHomesNetwork]

Mary Kyle Hi Mary, I’m one of the commentators and Belgian Shepherds are classed by the KC as having the same physical attributes but different coats here in the UK. Thanks very much for watching, Laura www.thekennelclub.org.uk/services/public/breed/display.aspx?id=5111

[@antoinedescours2459]

@@TheHomesNetwork And in the same time they present 24 breeds of collies, 12 fox terriers, 8 corgies

[@karinjohansson7262]

@@ayayumi6111 not at all consideredthe same breed. Where have you got such incorrect information from?

[@CUPCAKESUGARPIE]

🤟🐾🐾♥️♥️♥️🐾🐾🤟

[@oijosukeiliveinyourwalls5798]

Kangal ruler of the ring!!

[@98seadragon]

Why is the blue heeler so fat? Disgraceful, and not the ideal weight for health or agility

[@anabeatrizs2985]

Hunnn