Did Martin Luther call Jesus an Adulterer?

[@twhuning6352]

Dr. Luther never for one second believed that God (Jesus) could sin. In the fragmentary record to which you refer Dr. Luther in the process of refuting what some others were saying was simply quoting them. It was what others, not he, were saying. "....for THEY say ....."

[@aleckim9337]

This reminds, of people quoting Augustin quoting the Pelagians and saying Augustin was a pelagian

[@Joshua12w2o]

@@aleckim9337😂😂😂

[@lc-mschristian5717]

People attack our name because our doctrine is Rock solid. I personally dislike the name Lutheran but what can you do but own it! Thank you Pastor Wolfmueler, God's peace be with you.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

You're doctrine is far from rock solid. Sola scriptura is disproven by 2 Thessalonians 2:15 and sola fide is disproven by Matthew 25:31-46 and James 2:26. Only Catholicism is real Christianity.

[@cajunguitarman]

“own it”? um where in the bible does it say that we have to own it? lets see......actually no where. God’s word is settled in Heaven even before the foundation of the world. lutheranism did not exist in Genesis or before the book of Genesis so no no one has to “own it”. the only word that can and we should own is God’s holy word.

[@lc-mschristian5717]

@@cajunguitarman Lutheran's preach,teach and confess Scripture alone! We believe salvation by grace alone through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone as taught in Scripture alone to the glory of God alone. Nothing to hide, it is written down in plain English for all to read in the Augsburg Confession. It is the truth of Scripture from Genesis to eternity. Hope this helps. God's peace be with you.

[@JimiSurvivor]

Luther was a rabid antisemite who persecuted the Jewish people and and instigated the execution of Anabaptists

[@TheNuclearMantis]

The reformers themselves couldn't even agree and split. How is that rock solid?

[@johnhouchins3156]

God blessed us with brother Martin. Outside of the Scriptures, what love God holds for us I don't think could be explained better than this.

[@christophercarver3641]

Pastor, your video teachings are spot on. You are blessed in your knowledge and understanding of the Bible and theological doctrine. Please keep up the great work!

[@cynthiax56]

nope. ➨ The entire foundation of Protestantism is false:... The Bible ITSELF Contradicts Luther's doctrine of "scripture alone" (solascriptura) The Bible tells us that the authority is THE CHURCH: ... ● 1 TIMOTHY 3:15 The pillar & foundation of TRUTH is the CHURCH. ● EPHESIANS 3:10 10 His intent was that now, THROUGH THE CHURCH, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms, ● 2 THESS 2:15 We are to hold fast to the TRADITIONS we have been given, either by WORD OF MOUTH or by the letter. ● 1 COR 11:2 I commend you because you remember me in everything, and maintain the TRADITIONS even as I have delivered them to you. ● JOHN 21:25 Jesus said & did Many other things that are too numerous to be recorded in writing. ● HEB 13:17 Obey the eldars in the CHURCH. ● MATT 18:15-17 15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto THE CHURCH: but IF HE NEGLECTS TO HEARTHE CHURCH let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. The True Church is a TEACHING Church: (to Teach means to impart knowledge that is not presently know....not in writing) ● JOHN 14:26-31 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall TEACH you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have SAID unto you. (Spoken words...not in writing) (To TEACH is to impart knowledge that is not presently known....not in writing) ● ACTS 8:31: And he said, HOW CAN I, (understand scripture) EXCEPT SOMEONE SHOULD GUIDE ME? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him. (The scriptures are not for individual interpretation. They need the guidance of the CHURCH. It is PROTESTANTS who are following the doctrines of a man.) nnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Luther's doctrine of "Faith alone" is ALSO False: ➨ WORKS, PENANCE, & PURGATORY (All copied from the protestant version of the Bible by me) ➨WORKS: ● REV 20:12...The dead are judged BY THEIR WORKS. REV 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. ● JAMES 2:18 Faith without works is dead ● MATTEW 19:17 Jesus tells us if we want to enter into Life, we must keep the commandments. ● MATTHEW 5:16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your GOOD DEEDSand glorify your Father in heaven. ● JAMES 2:24 A man is justified by works, and not by faith only. ● ROMANS 2:6 He will judge everyone ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. ● ROMANS 2:13 13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. ● MATTHEW 7:21 Not everyone who says to me: "Lord Lord will enter into the kingdom of heaven but only those WHO DO THE WILL OF MY FATHER. ● PHILIPPIANS 2:12-13 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, WORK OUT YOUR OWN SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING; 13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure. ● MATT 25:35-40 JESUS tells us to feed the hungry & clothe the naked (good works). He further warns us that those who do NOT will be sent away into the eternal fire., but those who do these WORKS will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. ● LUKE 16:19-30 The story of Lazarus and the rich man shows us that the rich man went to hell for refusing to help Lazarus who was poor and hungry. (He refused to do good works) ● TITUS 3:14 KJV And let our's also learn to maintain good works for necessary uses, that they be not unfruitful. ● EPHESIANS 2:8-11 (KJV) Protestants "prove" their false doctrine of "faith alone" By quoting EPH 2:8-9 and they STOP before they get to number 10: 8 For by GRACE are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. (most protestants stop here instead of continuing on to 10): ➨ 10 FOR WE ARE GOD'S WORKMANSHIP, CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS UNTO GOOD WORKS, WHICH GOD HAS BEFORE ORDAINED, THAT WE SHOULD WALK IN THEM. ● 1 COR 9:27 (KJV) (Paul speaking) But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a cast away. ● MATT 12:36-37 36 But I say unto you, That every idle WORD THAT MEN SHALL SOEAK, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For BY THY WORDS THOU SHALL BE JUSTIFIED, and BY THY WORDS THOU SHALL BE CONDEMNED. (not by yout faith alone) ➨PENENCE: Protestants reject the idea that they must do "penence" (attempt to make up for the sins they have committed) ● Luke 19:8. Zacchaeus told Jesus if he has cheated anyone, he will repay them 4 times over. ● Mark 2:20 Jesus said (regarding his disciples): The days are coming when the Bridegroom will be taken away from them, and then they will fast. ● Matthew 6:16 When you fast, do not look dismal, like the hypocrits do ● Acts 26:20 RSV but declared first to those at Damascus, then at Jerusalem and throughout all the country of Judea, and also to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God and perform deeds worthy of their repentance. ● Acts 2:38-40: Do Penance and be baptized everyone of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins and you shall recieve the gift of the Holy Spirit. For this promise is to you AND YOUR CHILDREN, and to all who are far off who the Lord our God shall call. ➨PURGATORY:. ● 2 TIMOTHY 1: 16-18. Paul prays for the dead Onesiphorus. ● 1 PETER 4:6 The gospel was preached to the dead. ● 1 PETER 3:19 , Peter says that after the crucifixion and death of Jesus, that Jesus "went to speak to the spirits in prison", which means that there is a place people go to after they die that is a prison and not heaven nor hell. ● MATT 12:32 Whoever speaks a word against the son of man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will Not be forgiven, either in this world, nor in the "world to come" This implies that some sins are forgiven in the "world to come" (purgatory) ● also 1 COR 3:12-15 & more in the Catholic Bible: (2 Mace 12:46). “It is a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they might be loosed from their sins” 1 Peter 1:17

[@cynthiax56]

➔ All of the following things that Protestants attack can be found in the Bible: Holy images are BIBLICAL and are not "Idols" .... ➨CARVED IMAGES IN THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD, INTERCESSION OF MARY AND THE SAINTS, HONOURING MARY, AND BOWING AS A SIGN OF HONOUR AND RESPECT (All copied from the protestant version of the bible by Cynthia X) Sacred Images are Biblical & mocking & destroying them is a serious sin, an act of blasphemy: ➨ SACRED IMAGES: Sacred images are not idols and it is an act of blasphemy to attack them: ● EXODUS 25:18-22 God commands Moses to make STATUES of Angels. ● NUMBERS 21:8-9 God commands another image to be made, a serpent. ● EZEKIEL 41:18-25 KJV (EZEKIEL's VISION OF THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD ADORNED WITH CARVED IMAGES:)... 18 And it was made with CHERUBIMS (ANGELS) and PALM TREES, so that a palm tree was between a CHERUB and EVERY CHERUB HAD TWO FACES; 19 So that the FACE OF A MAN was toward the PALM TREE on the one side, and the FACE OF A LION toward the PALM TREE on the other side: it was made through all the house round about. 20 From the ground unto above the door were CHERUBIMS (ANGELS) and PALM TREES made, and on the wall of the temple. 21 The posts of the temple were squared, and the face of the sanctuary; the appearance of the one as the appearance of the other. 22 The altar of wood was three cubits high, and the length thereof two cubits; and the corners thereof, and the length thereof, and the walls thereof, were of wood: and he said unto me, This is the table that is before the Lord. 23 And the temple and the sanctuary had two doors. 24 And the doors had two LEAVES apiece, two turning leaves; two leaves for the one door, and two leaves for the other door. 25 And there were made on them, on the doors of the temple, CHERUBIMS and PALM TREES, like as were made upon the walls; and there were thick planks upon the face of the porch without. ➨ BOWING as a sign of honour / respect: ●1 KINGS 2:19 Solomon bows to his Mother. (he HONOURS Her) ● JOSHUA 7:6: 6 Joshua & the elders of Israel tore their clothing and lay prostrate (face down on the ground) before the Ark of the Lord. (an OBJECT) ➨ INTERCESSION OF MARY & THE SAINTS IN THE BIBLE ...INCLUDING BIBLICAL PROOF that SAINTS ARE NOT AMONG THE DEAD: The Protestant claim that we are forbidden to speak to / pray to Mary and the saints is NOWHERE in the Bible. In fact, the following scriptures were copied (by me) directly from the Protestant version of the Bible: ... ➨INTERCESSION of a holy person on our behalf: ● JOB 42:8 8 Now therefore take seven bulls and seven rams, and GO TO MY SERVANT JOB, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and MY SERVANT Job SHALL PRAY FOR YOU, FOR I WILL ACCEPT HIS PRAYER NOT TO DEAL WITH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR FOLLY; for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has. ➨INTERCESSION of MARY: JOHN 2:1 At the wedding feast at Cana, it was Mary who asked Jesus to help the wedding party. ➨INTERCESSION OF THE SAINTS: REV 5:8 The prayers of the Saints are offered to Jesus the lamb. ➨The KING Honours his mother's request: ● 1 KINGS 2:20: Then she said, “I have one small request to make of you; do not refuse me.” And the king said to her, “Make your request, my mother, for I will not refuse you.” (Jesus is the Greatest King and he also honours his mother's requests) SAINTS ALSO WORKED MIRACLES: ➨ JOHN 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. ➨ PAUL RAISES A MAN FROM THE DEAD: ● ACTS 20:7-12 9 And there sat in a window a certain young man named Eutychus, being fallen into a deep sleep: and as Paul was long preaching, he sunk down with sleep, and fell down from the third loft, and was taken up dead. 10 And Paul went down, and fell on him, and embracing him said, Trouble not yourselves; for his life is in him.20: ● MARK 6:12-13... 12 They went out and preached that people should repent. 13 They drove out many demons and anointed many sick people with oil and healed them. ● ACTS 19:12 The Handkerchief of Paul healed sick people: 12 so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them. ● ACTS 5:15 The shadow of Peter healed the sick: so that they brought the sick out into the streets and laid them on beds and couches, that at least the shadow of Peter passing by might fall on some of them. ➨SAINTS ARE NOT AMONG THE DEAD: AND THEIR INTERCESSION IS BIBLICAL: They share in the ressurrection of Jesus: (Protestants attack Biblical saints while they follow dead reformers) ● MATTHEW 27: 52 -53: When Jesus was raised from the dead Many were raised up with him. 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. ● LUKE 23 v 39-43...Jesus told the good thief "today you will be with me in paradise" ● REV 19 v 14...when Jesus returns he will be accompanied by his heavenly armies of saints. ● 2 COR 5 v 8...Paul tells us that to be absent with the body is to be with the Lord. ● JOHN 11 v 25-26...Jesus said I am the ressurrection and the life, he who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives, believing in me will never die. ● LUKE 1619-30 The story of the rich man and Lazarus show The Rich man, Lazarus and Abraham, all concious and interacting with each other even though they have physically died. ● LUKE 9:30-31 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias: 31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem. (Moses & Elijah were alive, and were yalking with Jesus) ● REV 6:10 The souls of the martyrs are before the throne of God, crying out for justice. (they are conscious and actively petitioning God) ● HEB 12:1-3 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, ● MATT 17:1-13 ...At the Transfiguration of Jesus, he is seen speaking to Moses and Elijah, further showing that Holy ones of God are not among the dead. ➨HONOURING MARY: LUKE 1:48: All generations will call Mary Blessed. We Catholics are the ones who call her the BLESSED Virgin Mary and treat her accordingly. RELICS OF THE SAINTSS ● 2 Kings 13:21 The Bones of Elijah revived a man: 21 And it came to pass, as they were burying a man, that, behold, they spied a band of men; and they cast the man into the sepulchre of Elisha: and when the man was let down, and touched the bones of Elisha, he revived, and stood up on his feet ● ACTS 19:12 The Handkerchief of Paul healed sick people: 12 so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them. ● ACTS 5:15 The shadow of Peter healed the sick: so that they brought the sick out into the streets and laid them on beds and couches, that at least the shadow of Peter passing by might fall on some of them. ● MARK 6:12-13... 12 They went out and preached that people should repent. 13 They drove out many demons and anointed many sick people with oil and healed them. (the use of oil, a material substance was used to heal people) ➨NOWHERE does the bible permit protestants (or anyone else) to Scrutinize & monitor the prayers of other people, nor to judge their sincerity or their salvation. Protestantism does not come from jesus. It began with Martin Luther in 1517 & exists Only to oppose the Catholic church which Jesus founded 15 centuries B4 the protestant revolt. They only know & accept the PARTS of the Bible that suit them and they do not have an accurate bible either.

[@cynthiax56]

nope. they are not

[@sabhishek9289]

​@@cynthiax56 What's wrong with this pastor's video?

[@rosaryofstmarysavedmylife4454]

Beware of false prophets especially those who deny the Holy and Perfect divinity of Jesus Christ and His Catholic Church

[@proxile_]

Catholic? no thanks I'll stick to Orthodoxy

[@AntiIdoloter]

Deny mary and her immaculate heart you are in hell

[@Crux_]

Hello brother Catholic. I support your comment. Unlike all these heretic haters of the Only Truth : the Traditional (NON VATICAN 2) Catholicism

[@CatholicReformation-l1r]

​@proxile_ The funny thing is they used to be the same thing before the stupid schism of 1054.

[@MichaelWittrock-kr9gy]

Pastors are taught at LC-MS seminarys that when they are ordained after 4 years of study, never to be alone with a married or single woman!!!

[@slmse6376]

I can not thank you enough for all your valuable teaching of the scriptures! God be praised!

[@captainmarvel76927]

Stop apologizing for a man who was not called of any power except demonic

[@LuizLange]

So Christians are dressed with Jesus's righteousness, and Jesus dresses Himself up with our sins. Thanks!!

[@ClansmanK]

And had them nailed to the cross.

[@FreeRadical7118]

I think Protestants stand on the shoulders of these giants who rebelled against Rome's authority, and Luther's name seems to be the one most commonly associated with it. I'm not Lutheran, but still consider myself a beneficiary of Luther's bold stand on God's amazing grace.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

Is calling Jesus a playboy making a bold statement on God's grace? Are you aware that the Catholic Church also believes in God's grace?

[@tategarrett3042]

Thanks for doing this video - this was a claim I heard some time ago, but never heard a clarification of until now.

[@MrGassemann]

God be praised for the clarity of the great exchange. Thank you.

[@Mygoalwogel]

From the Beggars All website: "The probable context is suggested in a sermon of 1536 (WA 41, 647) in which Luther asserted that Christ was reproached by the world as a glutton, a winebibber, and even an adulterer. (LW 54:154, fn. 100)"

[@mystuff3874]

It's not clear to me how quoting other writings adequately explains this particular quotation. I'd like to know the context for the statement, because, short of any mitigating context, it is unquestionably incorrect and blasphemous. If the social norms considered talking with a woman adulterous, was Luther affirming that perspective and condemning Christ? Or was his use of the term adultry meant to be in quotes, so to speak?

[@Mygoalwogel]

I found this on the Beggars All website: The probable context is suggested in a sermon of 1536 (WA 41, 647) in which Luther asserted that Christ was reproached by the world as a glutton, a winebibber, and even an adulterer. (LW 54:154, fn. 100)

[@alexgrubb6640]

Amen! The exact quote was brought up but not addressed specifically

[@kevinmcnally273]

Thank you very good talk GOD bless all in JESUS Name 🌻🌼

[@xnihilo1044]

I really REALLY needed to see this. Thank you.

[@trueherokoinzell2817]

A very clear, simple, and faithfull explanation. Thank you.

[@rosaryofstmarysavedmylife4454]

So basically, luther could have just said that the Holy and most Perfect Lord Jesus Christ atoned for the sins of evil men. I will not argue but twisted words are the signs of a false prophet.

[@prettypleasevideo]

We need to be very careful not to accuse others of twisting God’s Word. But, I agree that Lutherans often gives Luther too much glory as they quote Luther instead of just using the power of Scripture. 🤗✝️🕊 “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.” ‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:21‬ ‭NIV‬‬ www.bible.com/bible/111/2co.5.21.niv

[@sabhishek9289]

Except that there was no twisting of words. That is a false accusation which is a sin btw. It is not a sign of a false prophet. How Martin Luther explains and teaches it helps us to learn and see it from a different and arguably better perspective. We ought to read everything in its proper context just like how we ought to read the bible passages in their proper context.

[@pincher111]

That’s too funny Luther calls Christ an adulterer and it’s an analogy, but Catholic say The Eucharist is The Body of Our Lord because we’re talking His Gospel literally and we are devils😂😂😂

[@PastorBryanWolfmueller]

Luther also beloeves the Supper is the literal vody and blood

[@janetdinkelman2348]

As Lutherans we do see the Eucharist as Christ's body and blood being present in with and under the bread and the wine.

[@cynthiax56]

Here is a quote that absolutely DID Come from Luther: He told his gullible followers to "Sin boldly and let your sin be strong, but let your faith be stronger" This is quite similar to the quote of Aleister Crowlet (satanist) who said "Do what thou wilt" and of course both quotes contradict the bible and the words of Jesus who said "Go and sin NO MORE" and many other scritures as well

[@justanotherbaptistjew5659]

This is the actual quote: If you are a preacher of mercy, do not preach an imaginary but the true mercy. If the mercy is true, you must therefore bear the true, not an imaginary sin. God does not save those who are only imaginary sinners. Be a sinner, and let your sins be strong (or “Sin boldly”),but let your trust in Christ be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the victor over sin, death, and the world. We will commit sins while we are here, for this life is not a place where justice resides. We, however, says Peter (2 Peter 3:13) are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth where justice will reign. It suffices that through God’s glory we have recognized the Lamb who takes away the sin of the world. No sin can separate us from Him, even if we were to kill or commit adultery thousands of times each day. Do you think such an exalted Lamb paid merely a small price with a meager sacrifice for our sins? Pray hard for you are quite a sinner. He’s not telling people to sin, he’s telling them to recognize that they are great sinners in need of a great Savior!

[@cynthiax56]

@@justanotherbaptistjew5659 "sin boldly, and let your sin e strong" IS tel;ling people to sin. contrast that with the words of Jesus who said "go and sin no more"

[@sabhishek9289]

​@@cynthiax56Yeah but literally nobody can sin no more except Jesus Christ himself. However, what Jesus Christ really meant is that we should try to be better and try not to sin. However, you could still say that Luther is contradicting Jesus here. But the thing is Luther isn't contradicting Jesus because within the context of Luther's statement of "sin boldly", Luther meant we should recognise the fact that Jesus Christ died for everyone's sins present, past and future tense and we should do not have self pity over ourselves on the fact that we still sin as doing so means that we are making Jesus Christ's dieing for our sins completely in vain.

[@AJ_Jingco]

​@@justanotherbaptistjew5659That is still *TERRIBLE.* A Catholic or a PROTESTant who commit UNREPENTANT Mortal Sin will be *IPSO FACTO* be sent to Hell. NOT because God sends someone to Hell but because the sinner himself chooses Hell.

[@evangelion1962]

Wow, you think that Christ might have made mention of something so revolutionary. What was with all the warnings he gave about hell? How come he didn't tell the rich young man to chill and sin boldly?

[@plattevilleclarks]

God be praised indeed.

[@twhuning6352]

That is why so many congregations named themselves St. (fill in the blank) Evangelical Lutheran Church, or Immanuel Evangelical Lutheran Church, etc.

[@YouWhatMate_Official]

Thank you, this was a great explanation

[@niccuellar1793]

You are defending Martin Luther. A man whose doctrine you follow, and that is the first thing that the Bible tells us not to follow. Galatians 1:7-11, 2John 1-9-10, Romans 16:18 all talk about not following another teaching other than the one taught by Jesus Christ. You are following Luther, a man that was only a Priest for only 10 years when he thought that he could change the doctrine of Jesus Christ. You can spin it any way you want, but you are one of those that they talk about in Romans 16:18. There is only one true Church founded by Jesus Christ, and that is the Catholic Church. If you love the Bible, and believe everything in it, then why do you love a book that was put together by the Catholic Church in the year 382 by Pope Damascus X. Don't forget that Luther took out 7 books out of the Bible, and even wanted to take out the book of James. Luther was no one to decide what should be or not be in the Bible. You praise a heritic.

[@AntiIdoloter]

Tell me one teachings that martin Luther did that Contradicts the Holy Bible. Infallible pope teaches without Jesus Christ you can get into heaven as long as they worship one God .

[@keatdawgz]

Luther said some interesting things: Christ committed adultery first of all with the woman at the well about whom St. John tells us. Was not everybody about Him saying: “Whatever has he been doing with her?” Secondly, with Mary Magdalene, and thirdly with the woman taken in adultery whom he dismissed so lightly. Thus even Christ, who was so righteous, must have been guilty of fornication before He died. (D. Martin Luthers Werke, kritische Gesamtausgabe [Hermann Bohlau Verlag, 1893], vol. 2, no. 1472, April 7 - May 1, 1532, p. 33)

[@lordvonmanor6915]

Luther was like Mike Tyson. To understand him you really have to go to his neighborhood and look around. And one thing Martin didn't like was WH People.

[@appointedaday]

but that is not the quote. You in you acritical put this quote below but you did not address this one you quoted something very different and you took such the long way to get there and like a magician you addressed a different quote “Christ was an adulterer for the first time with the woman at the well, for it was said, ‘Nobody knows what he’s doing with her’ [John 4:27]. Again [he was an adulterer] with Magdalene, and still again with the adulterous woman in John 8 [:2-11], whom he let off so easily. So the good Christ had to become an adulterer before he died.”

[@cynthiax56]

➨ The Bible ITSELF Contradicts Luther's doctrine of "scripture alone" (solascriptura) The Bible tells us that the authority is THE CHURCH: ... ● 1 TIMOTHY 3:15 The pillar & foundation of TRUTH is the CHURCH. ● EPHESIANS 3:10 10 His intent was that now, THROUGH THE CHURCH, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms, ● 2 THESS 2:15 We are to hold fast to the TRADITIONS we have been given, either by WORD OF MOUTH or by the letter. ● 1 COR 11:2 I commend you because you remember me in everything, and maintain the TRADITIONS even as I have delivered them to you. ● JOHN 21:25 Jesus said & did Many other things that are too numerous to be recorded in writing. ● HEB 13:17 Obey the eldars in the CHURCH. ● MATT 18:15-17 15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto THE CHURCH: but IF HE NEGLECTS TO HEARTHE CHURCH let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. The True Church is a TEACHING Church: (to Teach means to impart knowledge that is not presently know....not in writing) ● JOHN 14:26-31 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall TEACH you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. (To TEACH is to impart knowledge that is not presently known....not in writing) ● ACTS 8:31: And he said, HOW CAN I, (understand scripture) EXCEPT SOMEONE SHOULD GUIDE ME? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him. (The scriptures are not for individual interpretation. They need the guidance of the CHURCH. It is PROTESTANTS who are following the doctrines of a man.) nnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Luther's doctrine of "Faith alone" is ALSO False: ➨ WORKS, PENANCE, & PURGATORY (All copied from the protestant version of the Bible by me) ➨WORKS: ● REV 20:12...The dead are judged BY THEIR WORKS. ● JAMES 2:18 Faith without works is dead ● MATTEW 19:17 Jesus tells us if we want to enter into Life, we must keep the commandments. ● MATTHEW 5:16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your GOOD DEEDSand glorify your Father in heaven. ● JAMES 2:24 A man is justified by works, and not by faith only. ● ROMANS 2:6 He will judge everyone ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. ● ROMANS 2:13 13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. ● MATTHEW 7:21 Not everyone who says to me: "Lord Lord will enter into the kingdom of heaven but only those WHO DO THE WILL OF MY FATHER. ● PHILIPPIANS 2:12-13 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, WORK OUT YOUR OWN SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING; 13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure. ● MATT 25:35-40 JESUS tells us to feed the hungry & clothe the naked (good works). He further warns us that those who do NOT will be sent away into the eternal fire., but those who do these WORKS will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. ● LUKE 16:19-30 The story of Lazarus and the rich man shows us that the rich man went to hell for refusing to help Lazarus who was poor and hungry. (He refused to do good works) ● TITUS 3:14 KJV And let our's also learn to maintain good works for necessary uses, that they be not unfruitful. ● EPHESIANS 2:8-11 (KJV) Protestants "prove" their false doctrine of "faith alone" By quoting EPH 2:8-9 and they STOP before they get to number 10: 8 For by GRACE are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. (most protestants stop here instead of continuing on to 10): ➨ 10 FOR WE ARE GOD'S WORKMANSHIP, CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS UNTO GOOD WORKS, WHICH GOD HAS BEFORE ORDAINED, THAT WE SHOULD WALK IN THEM. ● 1 COR 9:27 (KJV) (Paul speaking) But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a cast away. ● MATT 12:36-37 36 But I say unto you, That every idle WORD THAT MEN SHALL SOEAK, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For BY THY WORDS THOU SHALL BE JUSTIFIED, and BY THY WORDS THOU SHALL BE CONDEMNED. (not by yout faith alone) ➨PENENCE: Protestants reject the idea that they must do "penence" (attempt to make up for the sins they have committed) ● Luke 19:8. Zacchaeus told Jesus if he has cheated anyone, he will repay them 4 times over. ● Mark 2:20 Jesus said (regarding his disciples): The days are coming when the Bridegroom will be taken away from them, and then they will fast. ● Matthew 6:16 When you fast, do not look dismal, like the hypocrits do ● Acts 26:20 RSV but declared first to those at Damascus, then at Jerusalem and throughout all the country of Judea, and also to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God and perform deeds worthy of their repentance. ● Acts 2:38-40: Do Penance and be baptized everyone of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins and you shall recieve the gift of the Holy Spirit. For this promise is to you AND YOUR CHILDREN, and to all who are far off who the Lord our God shall call. ➨PURGATORY:. ● 2 TIMOTHY 1: 16-18. Paul prays for the dead Onesiphorus. ● 1 PETER 4:6 The gospel was preached to the dead. ● 1 PETER 3:19 , Peter says that after the crucifixion and death of Jesus, that Jesus "went to speak to the spirits in prison", which means that there is a place people go to after they die that is a prison and not heaven nor hell. ● MATT 12:32 Whoever speaks a word against the son of man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will Not be forgiven, either in this world, nor in the "world to come" This implies that some sins are forgiven in the "world to come" (purgatory) ● also 1 COR 3:12-15 & more in the Catholic Bible: (2 Mace 12:46). “It is a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they might be loosed from their sins” 1 Peter 1:17

[@christianmatteussen98]

If the church i go to contradicts the word of God, like worshipping idols, having false teachers as bishops, pedophiles and leaders like francis, who introduce heresy into the church, i will follow the Lord Jesus Christ and leave that harlot church

[@cynthiax56]

@@christianmatteussen98 Wew do NOT worship idols and bearing false witness is a very serious sin. Let me show you a fewq scriptures that you skipped over, B cuz everything protestants attack can be found in the bible: ➨CARVED IMAGES IN THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD, INTERCESSION OF MARY AND THE SAINTS, HONOURING MARY, AND BOWING AS A SIGN OF HONOUR AND RESPECT (All copied from the protestant version of the bible by Cynthia X) Sacred Images are Biblical & mocking & destroying them is a serious sin, an act of blasphemy: ➨ SACRED IMAGES: Sacred images are not idols and it is an act of blasphemy to attack them: ● EXODUS 25:18-22 God commands Moses to make STATUES of Angels. ● NUMBERS 21:8-9 God commands another image to be made, a serpent. ● EZEKIEL 41:18-25 KJV (EZEKIEL's VISION OF THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD ADORNED WITH CARVED IMAGES:)... 18 And it was made with CHERUBIMS (ANGELS) and PALM TREES, so that a palm tree was between a CHERUB and EVERY CHERUB HAD TWO FACES; 19 So that the FACE OF A MAN was toward the PALM TREE on the one side, and the FACE OF A LION toward the PALM TREE on the other side: it was made through all the house round about. 20 From the ground unto above the door were CHERUBIMS (ANGELS) and PALM TREES made, and on the wall of the temple. 21 The posts of the temple were squared, and the face of the sanctuary; the appearance of the one as the appearance of the other. 22 The altar of wood was three cubits high, and the length thereof two cubits; and the corners thereof, and the length thereof, and the walls thereof, were of wood: and he said unto me, This is the table that is before the Lord. 23 And the temple and the sanctuary had two doors. 24 And the doors had two LEAVES apiece, two turning leaves; two leaves for the one door, and two leaves for the other door. 25 And there were made on them, on the doors of the temple, CHERUBIMS and PALM TREES, like as were made upon the walls; and there were thick planks upon the face of the porch without. ➨ BOWING as a sign of honour / respect: ●1 KINGS 2:19 Solomon bows to his Mother. (he HONOURS Her) ● JOSHUA 7:6: 6 Joshua & the elders of Israel tore their clothing and lay prostrate (face down on the ground) before the Ark of the Lord. (an OBJECT) ➨ INTERCESSION OF MARY & THE SAINTS IN THE BIBLE ...INCLUDING BIBLICAL PROOF that SAINTS ARE NOT AMONG THE DEAD: The Protestant claim that we are forbidden to speak to / pray to Mary and the saints is NOWHERE in the Bible. In fact, the following scriptures were copied (by me) directly from the Protestant version of the Bible: ... ➨INTERCESSION of a holy person on our behalf: ● JOB 42:8 8 Now therefore take seven bulls and seven rams, and GO TO MY SERVANT JOB, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and MY SERVANT Job SHALL PRAY FOR YOU, FOR I WILL ACCEPT HIS PRAYER NOT TO DEAL WITH YOU ACCORDING TO YOUR FOLLY; for you have not spoken of me what is right, as my servant Job has. ➨INTERCESSION of MARY: JOHN 2:1 At the wedding feast at Cana, it was Mary who asked Jesus to help the wedding party. ➨INTERCESSION OF THE SAINTS: REV 5:8 The prayers of the Saints are offered to Jesus the lamb. ➨The KING Honours his mother's request: ● 1 KINGS 2:20: Then she said, “I have one small request to make of you; do not refuse me.” And the king said to her, “Make your request, my mother, for I will not refuse you.” (Jesus is the Greatest King and he also honours his mother's requests) SAINTS ALSO WORKED MIRACLES: ➨ JOHN 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. ➨ PAUL RAISES A MAN FROM THE DEAD: ● ACTS 20:7-12 9 And there sat in a window a certain young man named Eutychus, being fallen into a deep sleep: and as Paul was long preaching, he sunk down with sleep, and fell down from the third loft, and was taken up dead. 10 And Paul went down, and fell on him, and embracing him said, Trouble not yourselves; for his life is in him.20: ● MARK 6:12-13... 12 They went out and preached that people should repent. 13 They drove out many demons and anointed many sick people with oil and healed them. ● ACTS 19:12 The Handkerchief of Paul healed sick people: 12 so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them. ● ACTS 5:15 The shadow of Peter healed the sick: so that they brought the sick out into the streets and laid them on beds and couches, that at least the shadow of Peter passing by might fall on some of them. ➨SAINTS ARE NOT AMONG THE DEAD: AND THEIR INTERCESSION IS BIBLICAL: They share in the ressurrection of Jesus: (Protestants attack Biblical saints while they follow dead reformers) ● MATTHEW 27: 52 -53: When Jesus was raised from the dead Many were raised up with him. 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. ● LUKE 23 v 39-43...Jesus told the good thief "today you will be with me in paradise" ● REV 19 v 14...when Jesus returns he will be accompanied by his heavenly armies of saints. ● 2 COR 5 v 8...Paul tells us that to be absent with the body is to be with the Lord. ● JOHN 11 v 25-26...Jesus said I am the ressurrection and the life, he who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives, believing in me will never die. ● LUKE 1619-30 The story of the rich man and Lazarus show The Rich man, Lazarus and Abraham, all concious and interacting with each other even though they have physically died. ● LUKE 9:30-31 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias: 31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem. (Moses & Elijah were alive, and were yalking with Jesus) ● REV 6:10 The souls of the martyrs are before the throne of God, crying out for justice. (they are conscious and actively petitioning God) ● HEB 12:1-3 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, ● MATT 17:1-13 ...At the Transfiguration of Jesus, he is seen speaking to Moses and Elijah, further showing that Holy ones of God are not among the dead. ➨HONOURING MARY: LUKE 1:48: All generations will call Mary Blessed. We Catholics are the ones who call her the BLESSED Virgin Mary and treat her accordingly. RELICS OF THE SAINTSS ● 2 Kings 13:21 The Bones of Elijah revived a man: 21 And it came to pass, as they were burying a man, that, behold, they spied a band of men; and they cast the man into the sepulchre of Elisha: and when the man was let down, and touched the bones of Elisha, he revived, and stood up on his feet ● ACTS 19:12 The Handkerchief of Paul healed sick people: 12 so that even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them. ● ACTS 5:15 The shadow of Peter healed the sick: so that they brought the sick out into the streets and laid them on beds and couches, that at least the shadow of Peter passing by might fall on some of them. ● MARK 6:12-13... 12 They went out and preached that people should repent. 13 They drove out many demons and anointed many sick people with oil and healed them. (the use of oil, a material substance was used to heal people) ➨NOWHERE does the bible permit protestants (or anyone else) to Scrutinize & monitor the prayers of other people, nor to judge their sincerity or their salvation. Protestantism does not come from jesus. It began with Martin Luther in 1517 & exists Only to oppose the Catholic church which Jesus founded 15 centuries B4 the protestant revolt. They only know & accept the PARTS of the Bible that suit them and they do not have an accurate bible either.

[@cynthiax56]

@@christianmatteussen98 PROTEST-antism, and it's doctrines have nothing to do with Jesus. The protestant revolt was started by Martin Luther in 1517....15 centuries after Jesus founded his church. Martin Luther is your messiah and founder and he never kn ew Jesus, nor was he ever given authority from Jesus either. You are follow a man who rebelled against Jesus. ➨ JESUS gives authority of the Church TO PETER (NOT TO CONSTANTINE, Not to Luther, not Calvin, not Ellen White or any other "reformer" ) ✦ MATT 16:13-19: Jesus gives keys of the Kingdom to PETER and builds his church upon PETER. ✦ ACTS 15:7-12: "After much debate had taken place, PETER got up and said to them, “My brothers, you are well aware that from early days God made his choice among you THAT THROUGH MY MOUTH THE GENTILES WOULD HEAR THE WORD OF THE GOSPEL AND BELIEVE." ✦ JOHN 21:15-19: Jesus tells PETER to "Feed my sheep" ➨ The body of PETER now lies under the altar of St Peter's basilica. Evidence is even shown by unbiased secular media giants National Geographic, A&E & a book: "The Bones of St Peter" ➨The True Church is a TEACHING CHURCH: (To TEACH is to impart knowledge that is not oresently known....not in writing) ✦JOHN 14:26-31 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall TEACH you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. ✦JOHN 16:14: "When the Spirit of truth comes He will guide you to all truth." ✦ Acts 8:26-40 King James Version (KJV) 30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest? 31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

[@christianmatteussen98]

@@cynthiax56 ok then why do you idolize saints and pray to them for protection and glorify them for the lives they lived. Their Glory is the Lord Jesus. Also why do you guys reject logic and bible when you call Mary immaculate virgin, when the Bible tells Mary and Joseph had other children besides Jesus.

[@cynthiax56]

@@christianmatteussen98 1. I have ALREADY Answered this false accusation, by showing you that the intercession of Mary and the saints IS BIBLICAL. REV 5:8 The prayers of the saints are offered to JESUS the lamb. The SAINTSA are the SEVANTS of Jesus and spent their entire lives in service to him and are therefore good examples for us to follow, whereas the protestant "reformers" rebelled against Jesus. 2. One of the scriptures that I posted was from the book of Job, in which it tells the person: "GO TO MY SERVANT JOB, AND HAVE HIM PRAY FOR YOU AND MAKE SACRIFICES FOR YOU" etc 3. NOWHERE Did Jesus, (or anyone else) ever forbid us to speak to his mother or the saintss. 4. MATT 7:2 tells you that the more you scrutinize and judge others, the more severe your own judgement will be.

[@mccalltrader]

I might even go as far as saying that Luther had the gift of prophecy..where else could the revelation of grace, through faith alone, be conceived except for divine inspiration back to the word..but he was still human...anyone care to mention the anti -semetic dalliance he toyed with towards the end..thank God for grace! Seems like Luther spent too much time locked up in a tower in Germany..and needed some air..Jesus didn’t become a sinner..thats insane..he bore the price for sinners..its a huge difference..if he became a sinner, then he was no longer perfect

[@andremelki3099]

How could Luther call Jesus adulterar? There is no anyone can defend him Jesus was free from sin. Someone explain why Luther call our lord and savour a adulterar.

[@Mygoalwogel]

Read about it on the Beggars All website. The probable context is suggested in a sermon of 1536 (WA 41, 647) in which Luther asserted that Christ was reproached by the world as a glutton, a winebibber, and even an adulterer. (LW 54:154, fn. 100)

[@evangelion1962]

​@@Mygoalwogelonly he wasn't. No one has ever said that about Christ except luther. He was executed for claiming to be God. Luther was the notorious drunkard, glutton, and carouser.

[@cheryl9856]

​​@@evangelion1962 Christ was reproached by the world as such. "The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Look at him! A glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’ Yet wisdom is justified by her deeds.” Matt 11:19

[@solideogloria3602]

Hey guys! Can anyone explain to me what Lutheran doctrine is? Or at least point me to where I can read about it? God bless!

[@hansimgluck4965]

My suggestion would be: www.cph.org/p-1567-kjv-luthers-small-catechism-1943-translation.aspx

[@williammetz7500]

Bookofconcord.org

[@litlckrets]

Pastor Wolfmueller has a great series called teaching the Christian basics. I think this will help you out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmawmqukm86Yf7M

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

Lutheran doctrine is, believe somehow or other in Jesus, commit all the sins you want, and still go to Heaven.

[@hansimgluck4965]

Satan, whenever he is giving you a lie, will never give it to you straight, but will always mix it in with a good measure of truth -- enough truth to make it appear very reasonable and palatable. And in that way, what George has written is true, because probably 8/10 "Lutheran" churches in North America, and virtually all in Europe, and certainly all that belong to the Lutheran World Federation which is in league with Rome, teach gospel reductionism, and bless and encourage egregious sin, that grace might abound all the more. (In Rome's case, they offer various ways to buy one's way out of punishment for sin: indulgences. By this they deny the completed work of the Atonement of Christ, making Christ a liar.) And indeed, just like the Roman church, these 8/10 "Lutheran" churches teach that Scripture is not clear and definitive, and that it is God's prerogative to circumvent His own Word. So they teach that Islam may be "another way" to Heaven, just like the pope teaches.

[@oaktree2406]

I think we as Christians should support and believe in the deuterocannon.

[@extrasticc1165]

Yes

[@cynthiax56]

Luther be;ieved the PARTS of the bible that suited his agenda, amd threw out 7 books of the bible

[@ShadowOfNexxus]

100% wrong many church father's prior to the schism did not accept the apocrypha.

[@InvalidUser..]

They were aprocypha lil bro

[@cynthiax56]

@@InvalidUser.. nope. Those books had been in the bible from the start and were a part of the bible for all the centuries that came before Luther

[@InvalidUser..]

@cynthiax56 The book of enoch, for example, wasn't written by Enoch, and it's not a reliable source I mean it was written by an Egyptian in 100 bc so it is definitely not reliable

[@cynthiax56]

@@InvalidUser.. The book of Enovh has nothing to do with the topic at hand. It is not one of the missing 7 bookws. The bible was written and compiled by the catholic church 11 centuries before protestantism existed and the 7 books were a part of the bible from the beginning. Luther had no authority to remove them

[@hansimgluck4965]

Not Luther's finest hour, and we should not shy away from saying so. Nor should we do anything other than acknowledge and accept that the name "Lutheran" is highly problematic, among so many other reasons, for this bungled explanation of The Great Exchange, as it were. Add it to the list of things we wish Luther hadn't said or been quoted as having said. I don't have the German in front of me, but if Luther really did use the word "Sünder" in reference to Jesus, no matter how noble and well-intentioned his motivation may have been, he should not have done that. He who had no sin became sin for us that we might become (receive) His Righteousness. He is our Righteousness. But if Jesus had been "a sinner", as Luther is apparently quoted here as having said, the Great Exchange could never work. This is simply another case of Luther getting caught with his foot in his mouth. Luther buffs will explain it away, knowing his theology and being favorably disposed towards him. But his adversaries will do no such thing, but will rather point to his words as opposed to his good intentions or his intended meaning. It is an opportunity for us Lutherans not to defend some of his lacklustre writings or quotations, but to admit rightly that they do add to the troubles associated with our name: Lutheran.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

Instead of making excuses for Luther, why don't you get out of the false denomination he founded and join the One True Church?

[@hansimgluck4965]

Was my writing so poor so that it could have been understood to state the very opposite of what it states? I have not said that we should "make excuses for Luther" but entirely on the contrary, my good man. In my writing, I believe I stated clearly that we must not do that. Where Luther stated the truth, we should acknowledge that. And where he bungled, we should acknowledge that too, as in this case -- keeping in mind that this writing is someone else's recording of what the man supposedly said, and not his own autograph to which he affixed his own hand. And in any event it is not something included in the Lutheran Confessions as accepted by the church. Roman Catholics, too, probably have been quoted as having said some astoundingly stupid things that got jotted down -- the Council of Trent, for instance, comes most immediately to mind.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

@@hansimgluck4965 What's wrong with the Council of Trent?

[@hansimgluck4965]

Well, nothing at all, I suppose, as a renunciation of the orthodox Christian faith and as a charter for blasphemy and heresy, it's first rate. But I think much of it was upended with Vatican II anyway. One never knows with Rome -- they just kind of make it up as they go along. Lately I understand they have declared that avowed Mohammedans, too, can be saved when they die in that idolatry. Presumably we can aid their posthumous conversion to Christianity by praying to the dead or buying indulgences for them or saying a mass for them or some such thing.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

@@hansimgluck4965 What blasphemy and heresy did the Council of Trent teach? Did it teach that Jesus screwed Mary Magdalene and two ther women, as Luther taught? Did it teach sola scriptura, despite 2 Thessalonians 2:15, as Luther did? Did it teach sola fide, despite Matthew 25:31-46 and James 2:26, as Luther did? Did it teach that Purgatory does not exist, despite 1 Corinthians 3:13-15, as Luther did? Did it try to throw Hebrews, James, and Revelation out of the Bible, as Luther did? Did it teach that the ten commandments were stupid, as Luther did? Did it teach that if we sinned, we should sin boldly, but believe more boldly still, as Luther taught? Lutherans follow Luther. Catholics follow Christ.

[@GaryDeSha]

Love this word!

[@janetdinkelman2348]

Thanks for the explanation.

[@OnYaBoya]

It's quite simple, you marvel at his scholastic genius, his intellectual works, his amazing NEW theology. But you turn a blind eye to his egregious errors, His glutinous prideful life, His hatred to whom ever opposed him. His kotowing to people of influence and power, to further his own. His fawned pious stance on the truth of scripture, yet the obvious contradictions mentioned above. Scripture speaks so much against the foolishness of following man's intellect to discern the devine. Why do you think Christ chose illiterate fishermen to be His followers, to establish His church and give testimony to his life even unto death by martyrdom? Was it because of the intellectual genius of the apostles? No, it was the glory of God given to children and HIDDEN from the wise, so man may not boost it was his intellect that found God! The whole idea of man finding God through a belief system he set up is plainly blasphemous.

[@ArmandoSalvador-mf5ff]

With all due respect ......... The guy was nuts.

[@damiandziedzic23]

Good vid. Good Bless :) Could I have a question? Here it comes: Do you believe like Luther did, in double predestination?

[@rickpettey8822]

Mlody I Reformowany: To what text of Luther's are you referring?

[@damiandziedzic23]

@@rickpettey8822 I don't have one text in mind. It's based upon his teaching as a whole. A really good article on this topic was written by Brian G. Mattson and it's called: "Double Or Nothing: Martin Luther's Doctrine of Predestination" (1997). You can find it online: citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.505.4032&rep=rep1&type=pdf

[@ikefink522]

In order for that to happen Luther would’ve had to believe that, but he didn’t.

[@sethfrazer7404]

Młody i Reformowany Double predestination is a reformed model that Theodore Beza believed after Calvin. NOT Luther

[@damiandziedzic23]

​@@sethfrazer7404 OK, that is not an answer to my question. Read the article I provided that documents it well. Luther was influenced by Augustine, who like Beza and Calvin, believed and taught double predestination.

[@brandonluft8950]

Some of these comments sound like they didn’t even listen to the video. Open up your ears people. Jesus had to become Sin for us. Our sin and it’s penalty were upon Him. And He suffered as a murderer and thief and adulterer and conveter and luster and blasphemer for us! As a SINNER for us!!! That is all the Luther meant. Luther was all about pointing us to Christ and Him alone. And so are all confessional Lutherans today. I too am not crazy about the name “Lutheran.” It is stuck though and we have the right teaching in the Book of Concord of the doctrines of the Word of God. Study primary sources of Luther not what you learn about him in the universities. He was a man and sinner, indeed! But he preached and taught Christ crucified and administered the Sacraments faithfully for you and me for us sinners!!! As were are possibly righteous before God Jesus is passively a Sinner on the Cross. We are given His righteousness and upon His is placed our sin! The Great Exchange as Wolfmueller mentioned. He is not and was not an active sinner. Just as we are and have never been actively righteous! If He didn’t passively take our sin upon Himself then we would still be stuck in our sin and would not have the passively given righteousness of Jesus. And this is not putting “lipstick on a pig” as one commenter below said. 😂😂😂 I absolutely love that phrase.

[@hansimgluck4965]

Indeed, there possibly could not be a better example than this of the kind of problem that can arise as a result of applying the name of one particular person to your church body, or in this case bodies. Perhaps Rome really did curse us with it after all. One problem, among many with Luther, is that there is as much or more of him in print wherein he is to be found speaking decidedly in his own behalf, and by no means on behalf of the church which has come to bear his name. People like us may be willing to go to the trouble to distinguish between those writings accepted by the church and those that aren't. And we may be inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt because, as you wrote, we judge that, on balance, he did more good than evil, and that is doubtless true. But many will not make such distinctions, much less be inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. So the question here is not whether Martin Luther was a good egg on balance. The question is of whether he helped or hurt the Gospel by this particular meandering -- and, in this case, the answer (and I say this as a Lutheran, and as someone who did listen to the whole program) is the latter. No matter how fine a theologian he may have been most of the time, no amount of verbal or written gymnastics, on his own part, nor on the part of his defenders, can make correct a theologically incorrect statement. And that is what this is all about. To be a sinner has no correct or proper meaning (whether in English or in German) other than to be a person who commits sins as a result of being affected by original sin. No matter how fond we may be of Martin Luther, and no matter how convinced we may be of his theological soundness, this particular statement -- that Jesus became a sinner -- is neither true nor theologically accurate in any sense. That is why Scripture is clear in stating the matter in precisely the way in which it does -- that He who had no sin became sin for us. Scripture most definitely does not say that Jesus became a sinner for us -- not in a figurative sense, nor in any sense. Where Luther totally blew it, let us by all means admit it and call him out -- and stop trying to put lipstick on a pig.

[@hansimgluck4965]

It would be better to respond, rather than to go back and to change or to add to the original posts by editing them. Otherwise it becomes difficult to follow the dialog. The problem is theological as well as linguistic. The word "sinner" is, by definition, indicative of the action of sinning by the person to whom the word is applied. There is no such thing as a "passive" sinner, and that is why we will find no reference to such a thing in Scripture. It is an awkward twist to try to defend this embarrassment of Luther's, but it is theologically incorrect and untrue to refer to Jesus as a sinner -- whether passive, active, or of any other kind. For this reason, Scripture refers only to His having become sin for us, and by no means to His having become "a sinner" for us -- on the cross, off the cross, or in any other place. To have the sins of the world placed upon Him cannot be described as His having "become a sinner" -- not unless we are going to embrace a post-modern, Humpty Dumpty approach to language whereby the meaning of the word is merely whatever the one using it intends it to mean. And in any event, Luther was not quoted as having said that Jesus had become a sinner on the cross, but rather, apparently, was quoted as having said that Jesus had become a sinner at the well with the woman come to draw water at midday, and with the other women etc. Whatever Luther's good contributions to the church and to the faith, this meandering was not one of them.

[@prettypleasevideo]

Yes, we should put our faith in Christ's righteousness, because He became sin for us. Praise The LORD! And we believe Luther was a follower of Christ: Faith Alone (a gift of GOD), Grace Alone (through Christ's blood shed on the cross), Scripture Alone (God's Word became flesh, the Living Bread of life). Sadly, many Lutheran disciples now follow Luther's friends who have revised the BOC over the years. :( Please prove me wrong!!! I've been a LCMS most of my life). Some Lutheran leaders: have faith in Christ plus Luther? Their grace comes from Christ's blood shed on the cross plus idol worship in Luther's Sacraments: mystery elements. Scripture plus BOC? Yes, Christ instituted Baptism (Matthew 3:11, Acts 1:4-5. Acts 2:17,38-39, 1 Peter 3:21, 2 Timothy 3:15, Titus 3:4-7) and the LORD's Supper: "Take and eat: this is my body which is broken for you..." "This cup is the new testament in my blood: (1 Corinthians 11:24,25 KJV) Does anyone see where it says, "Do this in remembrance of Martin Luther and his doctrine?" isn't that idolatry? Christ's institutes God's gifts and to GOD be the Glory, right? 'For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, you proclaim the LORD's death till He comes. 1 Corinthian 11:26 NKJV Take heed? Do not put your trust in princes, in human beings, who cannot save. When their spirit departs, they return to the ground; on that very day their plans come to nothing. Psalms 146:3-4

[@cheryl9856]

If people disagree I wish that at the very least, they would interact with the Bible verses pastor Wolfmueller cited.

[@deloachapproach4273]

I'll make it pithy - well done!!!

[@rangers94ism]

I think that Martin Luther is burning in hell right now.

[@ShadowOfNexxus]

No he's not.

[@leonceboudreauxwolf]

Maybe you'll visit him...eh ?

[@causeimbatmaaan]

Sorry I don't have time to watch this video right now but I will say I suspect he did. The world's greatest adulterer in fact.

[@fantasia55]

yes

[@expukpuk]

Luter also claimed that before God became God, he was satan. (his commentary to psalm 117)

[@FreeRadical7118]

*deodatus fink* Link please. I like evidence. TIA!

[@joebrinson5040]

Not at all.

[@rosaryofstmarysavedmylife4454]

We cannot make up our own doctrines and religions, we have to follow what Lord Jesus Christ approves and whether He approves of some of the churches I dont know.

[@tzadiko]

Being a Christian is following after a man

[@saharsadlovsky6494]

Tzadik Vanderhoof Being a Christian is to believe in the one true God of Israel. We don’t a make a man God, but we believe that for us men, and for our salvation, God came down from heaven and became a man. as a Jewish guy who believes that Jesus is the promised messiah, I know that the Christian doctrines is not pagan invention and who brought the idea of making the messiah Divine, but in fact, it flows and rooted in the The first testament (the Tanach-the hebrew bible). For example Isaiah 9:6 predicts that the messiah to be _born_ will be a mighty God. In fact, the Prophet Jeremiah (23:5-6) clearly tells us that the Messiah will bear a Divine Title. Thanks be to God that he has sent us the best messiah! He has sent us himself. This news is life giving that is proclaiming to us, to the Jews first and to all nations. God in Jesus redefined once and for all the family of God whose members marked by faith and baptism and live by grace alone.

[@TheLegacy87]

You sound like a complete fool,denying the deity of Christ. Are you muslim?

[@tzadiko]

@@TheLegacy87 I'm Jewish. Only God is divine. No man, animal, wood or rock can be divine.

[@TheLegacy87]

@@tzadiko oh so your on the way to hell too, just like the Jewish Pharisees gotcha.

[@TheLegacy87]

@@tzadiko No man comes to the father except through the son. You don't have a relationship with The Most High when you deny Jesus is The Christ, its written. I knew from your first statement you weren't spirit filled.

[@captainmarvel76927]

Your blasphemous

[@DavidMarta-dz2ne]

How?

[@captainmarvel76927]

@@DavidMarta-dz2ne u defend an evil man who scredded scripture and christ and directly shapped the deaths of millions. Thats how.

[@ivanipatov6559]

Nestorian nonsense. God Christ did not accept sin

[@lindahernandez8693]

Luther blasphemed Jesus! Called him an adulterer!

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

This guy really ought to go into politics. That's the most ridiculous and absurd excuse making I have ever heard in my life. Jesus committed adultery with three women, not because He did it, but because He was making up for people's sins. That sounds like Bill Ckinton to me---maybe those three women had sex with Jesus, but Jesus did not have sex with them. This is what the great Protestant hero Martin Luther actually said: "Christ committed adultery first of all with the wiman at the well about whom St. John tells us. ...Secondly with Mary Magdalene, and thirdly with the woman taken in adultery that He dismissed so lightly. Thus even Christ, Who was so righteous, musr have been guilty of fornication before He died." Luther said Christ was guilty, not that Christ bore the guilt. He said Christ committed sin, not just made up for it. Lutherans, make your choice. Do you wish to follow Christ, or do you wish to follow the evil and crude Martin Luther? "Martin Luther is now in Hell and all who follow him will surely join him there," said St. Padre Pio after seeing a vision on the subject. And by the way, 2 Thessalonians 2:15 disproves sola scriptura and Matthew 25:31-46 disproves sola fide.

[@iggyykinkstonebeat683]

I never heard of St Padre Pio until I read this comment, but when researching sure read many hateful things written about Lutherans by what appears to be Catholic websites. Never knew these existed in such abundance.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

@@iggyykinkstonebeat683 We don't hate Lutherans. We hate the errors of Luther and the divisions he caused in Christianity. We don't want to see anyone go to Hell; we desire the reunion of all Christians in the True Church and the conversion of the human race. Neither is goung to happen if we preach a gospel of Christ the Playboy.

[@archexpos1t0r]

Padre Pio's vision of Luther supposedly in Hell is a private revelation and is not accepted by Rome.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

@@archexpos1t0r Troy, I don't know if you are Catholic or not but the Catholic Church teaches that a private revelation is not in a par with official Church teaching on a particular subject, true. A private interpretation is not a doctrine but it is, if it is genuine, and the holiness of Padre Pio strongly suggests that it is genuine, a revelation from God. A truth, in other words. Catholics are free to reject private revelation but it is considered rash to do so. There is a doctrine that says outside the Church there is no salvation, and that is solid bedrock doctrine, not a private revelation. According to some saints people should reject private revelations only if they contradict doctrine or reason, which Padre Pio's vision does not. It is not unreasonable at all to believe that a man who destroyed Christian unity in western Europe, who called good works sins, who called the ten commandments stupid, who called for the extermination of the Jews 400 years before his fellow German Adolf Hitler actually tried to carry this out, and who said Jesus was some kind of playboy who screwed Mary Magdalene, the woman at the well, and the woman caught in adultery----it is not unreasonable that God would send such a person to Hell, especially when God told His holy servant Padre Pio that in a private revelation. Here's an analogy for you----if you are sick and are seeking professional medical advice as to the remedy, a doctor is more likely to know what medicine to take than a nurse is. But the nurse still knows plenty, and if what she says does not contradict what the doctor says, why shouldn't we believe the nurse? The nurse here is like private revelation and the doctor like Church doctrine. Or you could go paralegal and attorney if you wanted, bookkeeper or accountant, sergeant or colonel, take your pick.

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

@FaithHopeGrace There are plenty of pedophile Protestant ministers too. The Catholic Church is not better than Protestant churches because we have better clergy. The Catholic Churchbis the One True Church that perserves the genuine Gospel from evil men like Martin Luther that taught a false version of the Gospel.