Patch 3 | Before & After Comparison 1

[@foreveruseless1292]

Looks like the Lee players didn't gatekeep that wall combo hard enough 😔🙏

[@LittleJoeT]

Rip the coolest wallk combo in the game

[@drunkengaming4782]

It's ogre

[@vergil1155]

As a Lee player myself, it was ridiculous and could give you much more damage than was intended. He already gets incredible damage and positioning just from the HMS uf4 and ub 3 ender.

[@HeavenArtifact]

Nerfed

[@ZupremeKuzushi]

​@@vergil1155Yes. As a lee main as well, it was obviously not intended.

[@Dyleniz]

RIP the most stylish wall combo in the game it was a fun ride

[@yourcutemc]

Yep it's gonna get boring as hell

[@sky-oq5mr]

@@yourcutemc After I hit Tekken god, probably today. I'm gone. I see they are taking the for honor approach again with this one as well. Change so much that what made us love the game is gone so, so are my feelings for it. Dragons Dogma 2 here I come

[@dokkanlegends6825]

​@@sky-oq5mrgot 60, dollars for Tekken dlc but after what I'm seeing with the horrendous patch and fight battle pass I just went to hell divers 2 and terraria instead

[@D-vb]

DvJ got the Bryan treatment gg

[@Obama3ryk]

Wait what moment of Bryan history are you referring to?

[@Trindall91]

The Heaven's Gate nerfs apparently completely broke floor and wall break consistency across the game.

[@IAMOP]

Yup, check the latest video

[@Atilolzz]

Finally Kazuya does even less damage

[@Adonis509]

Kazuya has high damage unless you lack execution.

[@TheMainManJr]

That was so undeserved icl

[@AirLancer]

@@Adonis509 Is this a "snitching on themselves without realizing" moment?

[@dfddsfer4tv4g4b]

@@Adonis509 Yeah he should be nerfed again in the next patch lmfao

[@princekanbatsu2301]

​@@Adonis509They literally took away all the execution on the wall that gave more damage, before in T7 you needed the coreect timing of heaven's gate and the command for it was quite tricky to delay. In T8 you could delay it easier because the command was made easier, but now you simply bave no reason to delay it because they removed the damage lol It would make more sense if they removed the damage from the easy version, by adding back into the game the old command (cd4,1 delay cd1)

[@Sh1shiesty]

Kazuya just keeps catching strays bruh 💀

[@YukkiRuiii]

Kazuya Gets nerfed for no apparent reason LMAO

[@Pavian651]

Every Patch 😂

[@businessgoose123t9b]

I just want whatever brand of copium TMM is having right now

[@eugeneedgeworth1436]

At this rate Kazuya is gonna be the sub zero of Tekken 8 by the time the final dlc character of the first season gets released

[@tabkg5802]

Universal cd1 nerf. It's dumb anyways

[@krullexneo]

@@tabkg5802 But Kaz can only do heaven's door while in heat, DJ can do it whenever. They shouldn't have nerfed Kaz's. ALSO I have no idea why they removed the floor break properties for DJ???? Could they not fix the combo scaling bug so they just fucking took away the floor break ability? Lmfao this patch team are a absolute mess

[@krullexneo]

Kazuya Nerfed Feng Buffed Riiight.

[@andriy_tato]

It's not a balance patch, it's a consistency patch.

[@jacket2038]

They increased the size of Feng's hitbox on d/b+3, that's a much bigger nerf than it sounds like lol

[@KZ_Suntorn]

Did you watch the whole video?

[@JDarkAngeI]

Harada biass

[@Saitoh92]

Just wanted to say among the whinings here & there : Super nice video man ! It helps a lot to understand some of these changes when you're not playing the characters involved. Keep it up !

[@ametozukumazu6073]

Why did they nerfed Kazuya's dmg as well? I'm okay with floor break because it's a classic every Vanilla Tekken combo reset. But Kaz loses almost half of his heat for that and he needs heat for db1,2 heat dash/ground laser wall oki mix. I can see usage for DJ cd1 but for Kaz I'd rather go for db1,2 floor break -> heat dash -> stomp/combo.

[@gagagag7051]

always felt like something was wrong with playing vs lee while against the wall but I didnt knew why. well now i know... xD

[@damaito1829]

People don't even don't this combo. It's still 100 damage

[@RuggeD_]

That cd1 nerf is kinda crazy because you gotta get the correct timing to get that big damage previously in the first place

[@feliperapidstar3951]

Yeah it wasnt easy lmaoooo

[@zaselimgamingvideos]

​@@feliperapidstar3951there were 2 version of cd1 hit. With one you had less damage and with 2nd version you needed precise timing for more damage otherwise you would get the same damage as the 1st version or you would miss the the hit altogether. And that 2nd version cd1 needed different timing in different range (gap) and stages. Now both versions have same damage. All i am seeing with these nerfs apart from azucina's running 3,2 and some dragonov cheap shananigans (which need the nerfs) is that namco is nerfing the technical stuff which new/noobs/casual can't do or can't understand properly. Why? To plain the field among casuals and high level players even more.

[@sky-oq5mr]

@@zaselimgamingvideos in tag 2, if something was busted then you found a way around it and that was it. It left creative freedom up to us but T7 and forward is just awful

[@Furigou]

Just because a move is hard to do it doesn't need to be op

[@WTDGL]

@@Furigou never was op in the first place. Only nerfed it cause of its extended extension off of floor break lol.

[@TeddyGamesLP]

This is not a "balance" patch perse as mentioned by the devs. This was mainly a bug fix/hitbox patch with some nerfs like Azucenas while running move. The real balance patch comes after evo japan.

[@tousawa808]

Moves are nerfed and buffed and you say it's a not a balance patch

[@TeddyGamesLP]

@@tousawa808 After looking deeper into the patch and seeing some videos about it. I have to withdraw my main comment. It's neither a balance nor a bug fix patch. It's a garbage patch which puts more bugs into the game than solving them.

[@sliippy2152]

yeah this patch fixed not nary a thing, in fact it just caused way more problems now on top of the dogshit mtx theyve added. what a joke honestly

[@BronzeAgePepper]

@@TeddyGamesLP legit character development, you love to see it. wish we could say the same for Bamco though, they're doing the opposite instead. get ready for a twitter block from Harada and Murray if you say anything.

[@greatestnitemare6626]

Sure teddy. Keep slurping harada

[@Tareq-uf4em]

We need part 2 OSU! Thank you for making these! Best Tekken content created alongside Daddy Frame hands down!

[@trompettegilles9502]

My boy Bryan get more consistancy, thanks harada 👍

[@deanbrooks7297]

As a Raven player my blood boils over this post

[@Obama3ryk]

Every patch it feels like they're buffing Bryan ever so slightly

[@trompettegilles9502]

Yesss, we gotta keep it up XD

[@RR35031]

@@Obama3ryk his combos are worse, and his wall damage is worse.

[@Obama3ryk]

@@RR35031 His wall damage is the same, the only two nerfs he has received here is the one everyone else did and the one with his b4 on wall. Other than that they fixed some of his hitboxes which works out in Bryan's favour.

[@chrisg3387]

Aside from making it a little easier to step for bears and jack, azucena change is probably a buff at higher level since she'll just zoom by and not get full front launch anymore lol

[@iamtrying2690]

24 hits!? What the fck is this Marvel vs Capcom 1? Damn.

[@ZibaSharifi-w1i]

was

[@BlazingfuryOfficial]

Don't you just miss the good old t5 and t6 days , where combos were simple and lasted 5 seconds Max

[@pretzels7437]

That's what happens when you add 2 bounds and encourage fishing for launchers the whole game

[@ShiniGamiAD]

@@BlazingfuryOfficial If it still existed you'd still be complaining here.. "Look same shet since 2009"

[@BlazingfuryOfficial]

@@ShiniGamiAD not really man, just miss the nostalgia and the simplicity in older fighting games . T8 is sick, but the system they had in t5 and 6 was sweet. Not to mention not too much screen clutter and visuals flashing over the screen

[@Jack_X075]

The Heaven's Gate (Wrath?? the one with the air choke slam) animation is looking a little more jankier post-patch, for both DJ and Kaz. Is that just me or its actually the case?

[@IAMOP]

Yea, the animation is buggy Kazuya goes up first the opponent follows after the hand

[@tabkg5802]

DvJ cd1 scaling at the wall is so dumb. Why even do it now?

[@foreveruseless1292]

Damn they nerfed the heavens gate wall combo too? Why bruh

[@since2133]

Good because damage was his only weakness.

[@縣]

because it did a million damage you goof

[@technothug8974]

becasue it was so hard to do that not even pro players would try it so it became a problem... wtf namco?

[@riveteye93]

​@@technothug8974yeah and Akuma's optimal damage combos were so hard it wasn't a problem, right?

[@ZibaSharifi-w1i]

being hard doesnt make it balance lol​@@technothug8974

[@Varsos_Fishing]

And yet another nerf to Mishima's

[@citizenoftheshadowrealm]

0:30 wait, why does it simply not floor break?

[@IAMOP]

In heat burst + heat dash combos it doesn't floor break anymore After normal bound like ws2 it still floor breaks

[@KojiroSasaki21]

Nerfed dmg

[@technothug8974]

@@IAMOP aaah, so other characters get a million damage after heat burst combo floor breaks, just not dvj ??????

[@grantsummers4164]

@@IAMOPis it only when BOTH heat burst AND dash are used in the same combo? or is it just after the heat dash that you can no longer floor break

[@hydra4370]

because a jin did it to me once, so emailed namco and got it fixed (yeah I can do that)

[@systemkillerinner3]

Are killing the execution, namco: this isn't the way

[@watchulookinat271]

Our Boi Bryan eating good but what the hell are those Mishima family nerf?

[@LouSassol69er]

Of course they sneak in a little Kazuya nerf smh lol...

[@marcusjones9084]

They fixed the damage scaling on a particular move. Stop overreacting.

[@TheMainManJr]

​@@marcusjones9084 it isn't overreacting if your nerfed main gets nerfed again

[@G-R-IE-IE-D]

Lol they “fixed” the damage by changing it from 10 to 1. That’s crazy….

[@marcusjones9084]

@TheMainManJr It was a bug. That is what this patch was, to fix unintended bugs.

[@TheMainManJr]

@@marcusjones9084 since T7, yeah definitely a bug

[@Mageroeth]

What a cool wall ender Lee mains i morn your loss.

[@sehhmie5483]

What pissed me off is that combo wasn’t even consistent and also avoidable by mashing. Well gonna take copium like kaz mains

[@burnpisces7733]

Bro why did they change the drag backfill catch off his grab? Let me matchup check people ffs.

[@JamrockHobo]

i didnt even know jack could sidestep that Azu knee lol

[@umairahmed1235]

The cd1 nerf is bad... Because it was really tricky with the timing in the first place

[@시뮬라크르]

cd1 is gone

[@cfilorvyls457]

Again lmao. It's so funny how they buffed it back for t8 and then quickly said nope again

[@IAMOP]

It's weird they made it useless wall combos now

[@bilateriannewt4222]

Because it's not meant to be a wall option

[@loqztv]

what's CD1?

[@onbeyon2960]

crouchdash 1​@@loqztv

[@yourcutemc]

This has to be an april fools joke bandai namco

[@JohnSmith-hf8zn]

If this isn’t a April fools joke then my name isn’t John Smith

[@zpellet6326]

They kinda just patched some bugs though. Nothing too bad

[@DaGuyz47]

Noones mentioning azu running nonsense is finally steppable 😂 Yuuus!

[@hysteria2256]

Great job sir ty for your service

[@megadrillubreaker8817]

They nerf Azucena running knee? A dream came true...

[@timezone6094]

About time to be honest

[@FortuneKOF]

When did namco become the new NRS? Balance changes every month instead of every month season is wild

[@grungealleydog]

damn did the patch remove the health bars too?

[@drhighpinger7934]

really! all of that bushit in the game they nerf haven gate dmg.

[@dfddsfer4tv4g4b]

Shittу paid for customs and more Kazuya nerfs, Namco are such clоwns.

[@dahokhan]

Damn why they nerfed characters. They just can buffed other characters

[@amrkoti686]

did they really have to change the animation on cd1 ? it looks clunky and weird, not even talking about the damage or anything

[@KamiKoroshi_]

Bruh that Lee wall combo is gone. Why...Just why?

[@pekochan6808]

What’s the name of that music?

[@andyho4048]

I thought the cd1 change was a behavior nerf?? This is a very big damage nerf. Didn’t they say they were gonna fix the weird scaling bug that happened?

[@SOS1G_]

Yes please, nerf the wall combo that requires skill to time out.

[@JohnSmith-hf8zn]

It isn’t a patch if Kazuya doesn’t get nerfed

[@nfa_copium2479]

My poor deviljin crybaby... nerfed to the ground.

[@nicholascora1263]

I got tekken god rank right after the patch was updated. Thanks harada. 🎉

[@since2133]

Good nerfs but some were not discussed. Feng got a buff basically and Nina left untouched while King got a slap on the wrist.

[@ZibaSharifi-w1i]

that wasnt a (balance patch)

[@skyslashnova4308]

yeah there were a few balance changes but most of it is mostly to fix behavior problems

[@cbimz]

Kazuya is collateral damage in every patch lmao

[@LeeStyleLan]

Lee got the craziest nerf. Fair, but no buffs for the things he actually needed fixed. Tekken team kinda clueless

[@Rokkman3]

Why doesn’t he show the health gauge for the post patch?

[@bloodgrave66]

why tf you remove health bars

[@Mckhus]

Bro it felt like every time I power crushed on claudio people blocked it after it ate a hit, nice change

[@blujay1294]

jin one made sense, with the jabs, but a 5 hit combo? rough.

[@kitezzz360]

damage in this game in general is just way too high, once lucky launcher and you're eating 50% plus whatever oki or wall pressure that comes with it. This game honestly feels like whoever gets a lucky launcher results in a win

[@cursedcrow1033]

Remember the real balance patch comes after Evo Japan. I think there will be a Nerfhammer for the Top tiers aswell 😂😂😂

[@seanbrown7083]

There better be a buff hammer for Leroy, Steve, Zafina, and kazuya

[@TheLifeLaVita]

stop crying guys they didn't nerf heaven's gate they fixed a bug. It counted as grounded and reset the combo length. That was a BUG. Stop crying

[@TheUnique69able]

We’re not complaining about the bug, the combo from heat dash and at the and an ender became crap

[@HadesHatredEdge]

It's not crying. It's called RAGE.

[@simonjeremy1776]

​@@TheUnique69ableyou're literally whining and complaining

[@justhit6673]

was the damage as a wall ender also a bug?

[@GameOverArchives]

And? Maybe i missing something but you didn't break the ground with the Gin's combo... That's the point that you can't break the ground anymore with this or just showing that a twelve hit combo with 74 damage is enough and fair? 🤔

[@gabrielglorioso80]

kazuya nerf was super unnecessary

[@Kalnareff]

Nice choice with tekken tag ogre ost

[@irishpizza2823]

Was waiting to see what obligatory buff Feng got for the patch, I wasn't disappointed. You know he's gotta have one every time.

[@SoulStrikes]

Man I understand the B4 on drag being guarenteed was dumb,straight up but come on the oki wake up setup when dude mashed to get out D2 was good,had that since 7. Just nerf fking B4 seriously,now people can just wake up no problem,no more "do I stay on the ground" and DB 3+4 or they spam and D2

[@DudeWithAFork]

Stay buttmad dragbaby LMAOO 😢😢😢😢😰😰

[@jestyo0o]

Exactly bro just make the grabs Oki as same as tekken 7s one

[@thatredcomet]

All they needed to do was to reduce the frame advantage by 1 frame so that Quick stand up (spam up) would block b+4. But no, let's force Drag to take a mix-up on hit

[@sliippy2152]

literally the easiest way to fix that was to make b4 not hit grounded, it still hits fucking grounded for some reason. I;m saying this as a dragu main, why the fuck did b4 ever hit grounded? what was the point of that? this whole patch is a joke

[@thatredcomet]

@@sliippy2152 @sliippy2152 Dragunov's hitboxes are still wonky just like in T7, b+4 is the only move that allows him to keep in check Bs moves like AOP or Leo's Fo Bu. It's a necessary evil considering Bamco didn't bother to rework any of his mids (outside of Wr+2) to hit lower

[@Tzeeensh]

Thank you Harada

[@danktempsey6110]

Idk man It's not been even a yr for tekken 8 And I'm already missing tekken 7

[@Pasiion_Lee]

Raven vs Bryan jab was interesting. Was it because of how Raven’s jab was designed after Bryan was +5? The jab vs jab after Bryan’s blocked 1 was weird though. Was the frame data just incorrect? Edit: Raven’s jab skips a frame(or2) after the blocked 1. And for the one where Bryan is +5, it looks like they had to increase hurtbox size because Raven’s jab looks evasive in that situation. That was strange… 🧐

[@IAMOP]

I did a video on it before Ravens jab is a backhand, the hitbox is linked to the arm, from the top video they go past each other

[@Pasiion_Lee]

@@IAMOPyeah I just looked at it a little more closely. I’ll check your vid though. Thanks. 😎

[@IAMOP]

Let me know if you find it lol

[@thePsNGame3r]

Azuceena basically got buffed because you can’t punish here running 3 on whiff when done at range 0 😢

[@CosmicVoid420]

Yeah its kinda a buff and nerf lol. She flies to the other side of the screen even more so than Dragunov's WR2.

[@uchillz]

I always end devil jin's combo with df 3,2,4 into flight 2, it's so much better than doing the other route that ends with CD 1

[@darkwalker269]

Im surprised you didnt show off the kuma/panda change. The b1+3 chage removed a 96 damage reset bears had with b1+3 hold F after heat activation after T! In a combo

[@darkwalker269]

KZbin.com/watch?si=rq6XF9Qp1Yjk3_kG&v=abrvkVqcIe4

[@darkwalker269]

/watch?si=rq6XF9Qp1Yjk3_kG&v=abrvkVqcIe4

[@IAMOP]

This is part 1

[@darkwalker269]

@@IAMOP My bad I missed that

[@NahNah-et1ej]

Biggest after is the omni-present shilling

[@FeDDoSoff]

BRO THEY NERFING KAZ FOR NO REASON???

[@nextgencombodrop378]

Really interested how the EVO will be with this "patch" 😂

[@Pokechao]

So they just deleted cd1 entirely lol.

[@hatto]

For dvj players, its still better to do cd1 after heat burst heat dash since its the most damaging single heat for that situation (afaik). But do not transition to heaven's gate as it gives far better oki, and the additional 1 dmg is not worth giving that up. Also, the wall combo or heavens gate, in general, still floor breaks, only the after heat dash one doesnt, incase you were wondering.

[@melvinshine9841]

Last thing Feng needed was a buff of any kind.

[@aqueelkadri8371]

Doing god's work my friend. Or maybe the devil's idk

[@ogamitaicho77]

As a Zafina main, I'm OK with this patch. They finally fixed the Azazel Hand self damages that were absolutely insane and unreasonable. Now she just start to be viable but she still needs more buffs just to be just mid tier. Her rage art is still bugged and does not constanly works even if it connects. She lost also some moves from T7 for unknown reasons because these moves were not that great even in her T7 version... It just added more variety and options to the character...

[@maxwellbelmont8475]

WHAT!!!??? ANOTHER KAZUYA NERF??? WTF

[@deanbrooks7297]

Why are they buffing Feng and nerfing Raven???? Like WTH are they doing at Namco?????

[@LegendaryPlank]

A completely unnecessary Kaz nerf. Naturally.

[@CoviYello]

Mishima mains really do be malding when they lose 6 points of damage in a combo. 🤣

[@legoastray]

ost?

[@IAMOP]

Ogre theme from tag 1

[@DANCERcow]

The competitive fighting game community ruins fighting games. As most developers listen to the loud group on social media who help dictate patches. this character is too broken and op etc etc. Thank goodness for street fighter 6! I will always maintain that letting a game breathe so you know how much you'll need to knee cap it a year later is the best option! Yu-Gi-Oh should have a single ban list per year and all new cards should receive a 1 year exemption from being band upon their release! So Capcom putting out one minor patch note that barely nerfed the heavy hitters and buffed a bit of other lighter hitters is a good thing! Make more characters stronger than weakening strong characters (op characters all have a torch!) so instead of just passing around existing torches with nerf strong character then that character passes their torch to the one below them in strength, you just hand out more torches instead!

[@technothug8974]

Thank God they buffed Feng though....???

[@chellejohnson9789]

They didn't though? They made it so he could hit Jack consistently and every other cast member can hit him more consistently for one move

[@sabahbubbler]

I don't think there should be nerfed. It's need to buffed and do bug fixes like the strings not connecting on Feng or brian mid on Feng. I like those but damage nerf sucks.

[@fikriganiad889]

I am not yet read the patch note is dvj and jun heat smash got nerf or not?

[@IAMOP]

Devs said they will do bigger balance update in may

[@since2133]

@@IAMOPhopefully more nerfs because characters such as Xiaoyu and Devil Jin’s weaknesses were weak damage. They’re so OP now.

[@justhit6673]

​@@since2133devil jin is FAR from op

[@since2133]

@@justhit6673 yep he’s eop - (extremely overpowered)

[@justhit6673]

@@since2133 and who do you play?

[@R4ZOR768]

Perfectly balanced, as all things should be👍🔥 -Thanos

[@ZimpanX]

- Taking down mod channels - Adding a store and battle pass with just recycled T7 items to a $70 game that has already sold above expectations - Adding a pay to win DLC character - Questionable gameplay changes - Still full of pluggers and cheaters Tekken players sure are eating good right now, no?

[@gabrielnovais871]

For me, the monetization has killed my joy of playing this game. Yeah, I know it doesn't affects gameplay but this is just scum for a freaking expensive game

[@rhipeinik9375]

Law combo nerf is insane

[@johnysimps1191]

Nothing to see here citizens. That last pre patch Lee combo was straight up propaganda in order to get Lee nerfed for no reason. He totally couldn't do such preposterous amounts of damage pre patch and definitely can't post patch 🤗

[@dt_generalzod]

bro check out 12:42 of rooflemonger's patch video... says the lee combo's still possible

[@heroce974]

Maybe he wasn't talking about spike HSMu4 but just HSMu4, df44 heat engager. Cause I'm pretty sure it's not possible anymore

[@walauahahaha]

I thought the Oki on the Dragonuv has been there since T7, why they nerf this in T8 :/

[@IAMOP]

Instead of nerfing b4 they nerfed the whole thing smh 🤦‍♂

[@pixytorres7117]

Because people kept crying on it. Seriously by the way this keeps going it's gonna go Drag from 7 Season 4.

[@walauahahaha]

@@pixytorres7117 yeah, I think the current Drag is well balanced enough tho, not as OP as the first patch

[@ametozukumazu6073]

Because b4 now hits grounded. And as OP mentioned, they reaaaaally want to keep that bs

[@tabkg5802]

FENG BUFF LMFAO

[@triaxinex]

Y'know, Feng is Harada's main.

[@Hori-346]

And Leo?

[@ryantheradical]

Instead of just making tweaks to the characters that were problematic they instead made universal changes that basically killed the creativity of the game’s combo execution..

[@MassStarvation]

1 damage is hella wild!!

[@novanation5870]

lee not getting df4,4 after hitman u4 is fine imo. I play lee, sure it was nice but it was op as hell. Max damage ws2,3 was 141, without rage and ch btw. Now it sits at around the original 135 ish I hit for max damage.

[@Shaheentop4]

Whats the combo?

[@Chaolan_Enjoyer]

Rip Lee wallbreak combos

[@simplename1693]

But if they nerfed devil jin cd1 how the hell am i suppose to break the floor then?

[@AfroKing.]

You can still do it. Just not after heat burst + heat dash in the same combo

[@oscarisopthebest3424]

What about kazuya

[@carljohnson4285]

So Bryan and Feng were buffed, where Azu got nerfed