Patch 7.05 PATCH NOTES! Condensed Summary! [FFXIV 7.05 Dawntrail]

[@ColeEvyx]

Viper significant rework already yo? WHAT

[@ivyscyther]

is bettter just the rear all day

[@Kylan22]

Will have to relearn the job (at 90) that I just kinda got the hang of, lol

[@noahwagoner7650]

Fake news viper has been dragoon all along fake job release 😂😂😂

[@zenkii8284]

What significant rework. they just got rid of the 10% debuff and buffed potency to compensate. pretty much it.

[@Kylan22]

@@zenkii8284 Yeah after re reading it's just a bunch of name changes mostly, lol.

[@7qr572]

noxious gnash my beloved taken away too soon

[@MiaCulpa24]

You can tell this dude doesnt know a thing about Monk when he glazed past True Strike being 1500 💀💀

[@tonycalryastreams2176]

Also said samurai got buffs. Don’t think he saw that everything has been reduced 😅

[@MiaCulpa24]

@@tonycalryastreams2176 SAM did get buffed, you have permanent double Iajutsu now

[@mrdoormat6809]

​@@tonycalryastreams2176 You got to press more Tsubame, so they need to nerf potency across the board. Seriously, learn about the job first beyond numbers.

[@BaithNa]

To be fair, ain't nobody playing MNK anyway 😂😂😂

[@sylas3265]

Wait wasn't it just a single 100 potency increase? Like it's good but it seems like not worth much more explanation

[@oonue]

Viper's tooltips need tooltips.

[@billyrev]

All they did was removed the 10% damage buff and add that to the potency of all the attacks instead

[@1011skarn]

Dark Knights need HEALING.

[@iferan4166]

it needs a rework atp, even if you gave it healing it would just a be a worse WAR, rn, it's just a worse GNB imo.

[@AB-sp5hm]

Healing and better Mp management

[@DrakeWurrum]

It ain't a significant rework, VPR just lost the debuff. Potencies were adjusted to compensate. This was their promised "make the job less busy" change. We no longer have to track the debuff. This actually makes double Reawaken burst *absolutely braindead* to pull off. The Venoms were made 60 seconds just to match VPR to the other melee, whose combo chain lasts for 60 seconds.

[@robin6709]

gamers they actually buffed samurai you can use your double sen skill everytime now

[@dantedaz3864]

@@robin6709 but at what cost? We already had 2 stacks of meiko on a 30 second recast. How many more setsugekka are you getting in that window? 1? Im not saying youre wrong but it def needs more testing to see if it is a net positive, negative, or neutral.

[@bonevgm]

@@dantedaz3864 I loved having more emphases on Meikyo, so for me it's definitely a negative.

[@dantedaz3864]

@@bonevgm yeah over all from what math i could do (im no pro so grain of salt) it seems like at most a 50 potency gain over the course of a minute with the changes. But assuming one doesnt play perfectly its likely a nerf over all

[@dantedaz3864]

@@bonevgm i agree i hated the meikyo change at first but it grew on me

[@mrdoormat6809]

​​​@@dantedaz3864 The problem with meikyo is that it force you to press specific button on GCD window within specific time. This change basically make it easier by taking out one button to press while not pressing you into specific time window to proc your Tsubame. It literally making the job easier to handle for casual than the opposite. It cost... bloody nothing.

[@shirox11]

Ice paradox returns!. To all those saying that that SAM was nerfed it wasn’t. You double midare literally every single midare now so they adjusted potencies accordingly, but overall it’s actually a dps buff. They were going to change positionals on Viper, but due to heavy player feedback saying they liked them they decided to keep them. This is why i stress even if you enjoy something GIVE FEEDBACK. The devs listen (sometimes too much) but that’s why even if you’re enjoying yourself it’s still important that you give feedback.

[@dantedaz3864]

@@shirox11 midare has had 2 hits with it since DT launch. I think you mean 2 extra setsugekka. Midareis a 30 second recast with 2 stacks. The setsugekka combo is 8 abilities with average 2.5 second gcd. So 20 seconds. Thats at most 3 a minute which is 1 extra a minute over midare. And midare will still give the 2 hit since it still allows all finishers to be used. The numbers might still end in a net gain but its 1 more use of setsugekka vs -130 potency per 8 hit combo + -80 potency to zenshin + -120 potency for the finishers used during midare + -60 potency for setsugekka alone.

[@dantedaz3864]

@@shirox11 but tendo setsugekka wasnt nerfed i think and it is a 1020 potency hit which very well may compensate even 1 more use per minute.

[@dantedaz3864]

Oops you were right with midare i meant meiko and i appologize for assuming you were wrong there. I believe my math still works but wanted to correct my mistake

[@atwitchyferret]

Big paladin buffs are here to make dark knights cry. Those potency increases are nuts.

[@VideoHostSite]

I feel you, but Pallies have been driven almost to extinction over the past few years. I was surprised on the rare occasions I saw one. This is going to bring them back in a big way. Don't worry, Dark Knights will have their day.

[@ShikiRyougi05]

As a DRK main and PLD secondary i'm still happy. PLD is amazing now and DRK is almost just as shit as before!

[@iferan4166]

@@VideoHostSite Ehhh, I'd argue that Pld was at least in a better spot than Drk, sure it had even less damage than drk, but it had a identity/niche of it's own, being the defensive utility tank...What does Drk have that the other tanks don't do better than it? (2nd) lowest damage, worst mitigation, and no self-sustain, you'd think with the worst mitigation and the lack of self-sustain it would at least be on the top of damage, but Gnb is, and Gnb has pretty good mitigation and some self-sustain..So what reason other than liking the (really cool) aesthetic would you play it over Gnb or any other tank, when it's the worst at being a tank and doing damage?

[@JS-kr8fs]

Let's hope they correctly relatively adjusted potencys for SAM below level 74, to compensate for not having double Midare. Nobody wants to clear level sync content slower, even if they think the old content is irrelevant.

[@paixeon8816]

i mean i think it would be fun if all old content wasn't trivialized

[@yungchimp]

remove level sync. speaking as a semi new player the level sync system needs to be massively reworked or removed. you should not lose your rotation in any content once you are 100 on the job, its massively frustrating for some classes and feels terrible to play.

[@JS-kr8fs]

@@paixeon8816 You say that, but Aurum Vale, Stone Vigil, Pharos, most of the Hard ARR version--just in ARR--still decking us in the schnozz. I'm currently helping someone through Eden, ShB content, and loool the death, so much death. It's like all my Orbonnes have come at once!

[@paixeon8816]

@JS-kr8fs as a healer i welcome death it gives me something to do other than spamming my 10000th glare

[@tyhjyys]

@@yungchimpagreed 100% and i don't see people talk about it a lot. you're meant to master your job but constantly have to flip flop down to lower and higher level rotations muddying the waters. a lot of people level one job and over-level the msq so they have cool abilities but go into dungeons or raids and can't even use them yet. gives people the wrong idea. dated system for sure.

[@KnightOfCarim2]

Paradox and Umbral Soul changes are huge and is everything we Black Mages wanted. Black Mages definetly won in this patch. The potency changes and how good they are comparing to the other jobs remain to be seen tho. Meta-wise it should always be the highest compared to the other ranged DPS since it doesn't have any utilities, so pictomancer is the big elephant in the room right now since it does have utility and it's been doing too much damage for the last patch, it needs to go below Black Mage.

[@devxved]

I still think they need to re-examine thunders damage, but maybe its just yet to be seen and is more than meets the eye. The 5 extra damage does add up but i feel thunder should hit hard, and dot for decent damage too.

[@phatymcdaddy]

Before the patch picto was just barely above black mage in personal DPS, these buffs should def put black mage over it in that area. But yea with all the utility and group buffs it's gonna be a hard to pick black mage over picto

[@talancorwell]

I wouldn't say everything, but BLM mains are happy for sure

[@whitemageserenia]

correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks to me like SAM got NERFED across the board, with exception of being able to use Tsubame-Gaeshi with every single Iajutsu (Sans Higanbana) but otherwise it looks like SAM only lost potencies, but maybe I'm wrong?

[@lyconxero457]

I really appreciate the condensed nature of this. I'm pretty happy to see that they did NOT nerf Pictomancer as that's my main and I personally felt like they set it where they wanted it to be as they actually buffed it going into the expansion and it was maybe other jobs that weren't quite where they needed to be. Also, the fact that they buffed Reaper is interesting as to my knowledge it was actually top DPS in several fights already. I'll be interesting in checking out Viper to see how these changes work out. Like you said, it seems like they've basically removed Noxious Knash and added that additional potency back to the base kit itself. I'm personally more a fan of that then removing positionals as the flow of the job seemingly won't change from all this but I'll need to play it here shortly to see.

[@mrreliable2220]

So reaper and viper probably viper will be top dps and dark knight will still be bad. Why can't they give dark knight a 1300 finisher at least I can fish for a big number. Gunbreaker is so fun when you can see a 1200 potency crit.

[@VideoHostSite]

If you're playing a Tank to see big damage numbers, you're playing the wrong Job. Personally, I have all the damage numbers turned off, so I can see what's going on.

[@mrreliable2220]

@VideoHostSite Lol, any class could turn it off by the same logic to see what is going on. And of all classes, yes, tank are the least busy, and by proxy, you can see when they crit or don't crit. Your playing the wrong game if you think big numbers is something tanks already do. Warrior literally has a theme around guaranteed crit resulting in consistent dps, gunbreaker focuses around lots of big hits but no guaranteed crit e.g. 1200potency skills. Your just wrong, and all I said what dark knight could use a bigger number on it's finisher so it is more satisfying to press.

[@ShikiRyougi05]

300 more potency on DRK would be good for balancing but it wouldn't change anything about the job itself and it DESPERATELY needs those. It's probably the least well designed and interesting job in the game, which is INSANE due to it being one of the best in HW and SB.

[@CreatorHouseVlogs]

SAM destroyed and just when I was starting to like SAM. But I didn't expect to like viper or pico but as soon as I picked them up I loved them immediately. They're so fun to play.

[@fuzzytetra323]

Cole!!! Thank you for working so hard to get this video out so punctually and for pronouncing most of the abilities correctly 🥺🥺😂💖💪🏽🐯

[@M1SF0RTUNE]

I hate the Viper change for the following reasons: 1. They gave us no notice they'd remove Noxious Gnash and force you to start only following the glowing buttons making it more braindead autopilot, catering to the lowest common denominator of people who aren't willing to learn the job properly, 2. Removing NG disconnects Dreadwinder- no, sorry, Vicewinder (eugh) and Vicepit from the rest of the kit and even to some degree Reawaken, 3. Making it an endless combo changes it from 2 buttons to watch to now constantly watching the hotbar to make sure you don't misinput also getting you trapped in a neverending combo that also is easy to lose your place thanks to transforming buttons or shifting your mental focus elsewhere like Vicewinder or a boss encounter, 4. There was expression on when and how you apply NG, like do you double up at the start or do you continue alternating? Do you start Reawaken or go for an Uncoiled Fury depending on your time? Did you set yourself up in advance with enough time and/or a Dreadwinder? That kinda stuff. 5. It wasn't replaced with anything, it was just taken out and given a band-aid solution to keep the general rotation going without thinking about the ripple effect it would have, 6. Noxious Gnash served as a better visual queue for whether you needed to start on 1 or not, and then you got to choose when to start on 2. That was fully in your control before, now it's not, which leads to my last point: 7. A lot of the "free-flow" identity of the job got destroyed and replaced with something spammier and more monotonous and clunky to play. There was more emphasis on setup and payoff (properly managing NG timing) that required some actual skill that paid off in heavier-hitting Reawakens and Uncoiled Fury's if you knew what you were doing. The nuance was in the fine details and how controlling your NG buff and timing let you control that freeflow of your own accord, but now it's literally only follow-the-buttons. Dumbed down yet smaller margin of error. It sucks. Change it back to 7.01.

[@Voicelet]

I like the Viper changes. Having to reapply debuff when you're mid-combo (can't reapply unless you finish it first) and then there's downtime enough for it to drops, is just painful. But the potency ups seem to be between 13-15% while the debuff is 10%, dunno how the intricacies around dmg calc but at a glance the changes look like a net buff tbh.

[@Bigalinbklyn83]

Keeping the debuff up was easy get good

[@Voicelet]

@@Bigalinbklyn83 Did I even say it was hard? Get good at comprehensive reading.

[@celphalonred1999]

Our debuff is gone. Reaper, you're next

[@MrMuricon]

Blackmage got a 5.1% overall dps buff which is nice. It is moving in the right direction but it still feels like we have a knife to our throats with the rotation with the addition of Flare Star. Honestly if they revert the changes they made to thunder, I would be absolutely happy. But, baby steps.

[@iferan4166]

I think there might be a painter that's running you guys out of a job...YoshiP not protecting his child I see.

[@tyhjyys]

ngl man i think these changes just saved samurai. job was heading in such a bad clunky direction im glad they realized how limiting that implementation of tsubame-ready was. now we get more setsugekkas which is fun 😁

[@ciberkid22]

The duration increases for Magicked Swordplay and Viper buffs are at least useful when the boss just happens to become untargetable the second I pop them lol

[@DrakeFury1]

Ice paradox coming back will probably be huge for blms. If it gives back mp, it might bring back some "skip-blizzard 4" transpose lines when boss is about to leave arena, and will add to mobility in umbral ice. The only thing i'm still iffy about is the no double dot thing, but besides DSR and TEA, it's not really something you'll notice.

[@GuiltyDegen]

Paradox is considered unaspected damage, so unlikely to give mp back.

[@DrakeFury1]

@GuiltyDegen I agree that it's unlikely for that, but it is a potency gain as well as an instant cast in ice phase. I'll take that, along with all other potency increases.

[@ChandaniAranka]

​@@DrakeFury1I feel Thunder got a nerf. And the reduction in base damage makes this even worse to repop Thunder to soon. And with Flare do more damage to offtargets, it makes High Fire 2 worthless doesn't it? Just HF2 or F3 from UI, Flare X2 and Flarestar transpose Paradox B3 etc? Doesn't feel enough to make BLM higher than Picto and that job is so braindead to play and still does the much damage for a utility without raise job while BLM is a pure raw selfish caster with zero buffs to party

[@DrakeFury1]

@ChandaniAranka thunder will remain the same, it's just less frontloaded. 1 tick every 3 secs for 30 secs, so 10 ticks of 5 potency increase on the dot, while 50 potency removed on application, same thing. High Fire II is already not used at 100, so increases to flare are flat increases. All the potency increases to fire iv and despair will be further enhanced by astral fire, and enochian now has a flat 3% increase. We'll have to see how it translates in overall numbers, but this is undeniably a substantial buff. Also the whole PCT argument is moot to me. I've been a blm main since FFXI, back in 2003, I play BLM for its identity as the master of destruction and will never switch to Bob Ross and his paintbrush... I hate PCT with a passion, not for its gameplay, but for identity reasons.

[@ChandaniAranka]

​@@DrakeFury1I hate the picto mostly for the sound effects it has. They drive me insane. I've been a BLM main since 1.0. I just do not feel BLM is as smooth as it has been before. I also do not like that a job based on being the ultimate destruction spell class is getting out damaged by paint and brushes xD

[@PedroSacramento2022]

Well, the new savages will have a lot of wipes incoming. The bee lady in normal almost wiped my team. It's going to be wipe fun in savage. XD

[@Kylan22]

Editing to stop incorrect information. Originally thought it was a flat nerf and commented as such, but another poster helpfully pointed out that it isn't. Correctly stated in the video as a damage reallocation as we can do big combos more now. Don't panic fellow Samurai enjoyers.

[@ColeEvyx]

CRAP!!!!! Oh my gosh NO my brain couldn't comprehend that level of nerfage without buffs. I am so sorry! You are RIGHT! AHHH!!!

[@Kylan22]

@@ColeEvyx Edited my incorrect comment about a nerf to stop the spread of misinformation, as you were right in your video!

[@Rikadou]

Wait, did I misunderstand and Tsubame's on the same token/buff given for Zanshin? This feels...off to me.

[@Kylan22]

@@Rikadou Edited to keep wrong information from being spread, as my previous comment talking about flat nerf was incorrect.

[@karasutsuki1733]

Yall missed reading the part where u get Kaeshi after every Midare now, its overall buff according to SE

[@thedarkness490]

Wait vipers dread winder combo says both are flank? Is that an oppsy/change or what since I'm willing to say it wasnt that way before

[@DioDinero]

It looks like an oopsy, one is flank and one is rear

[@brazen_helm]

probably a typo, the monk changes are clearly wrong somehow so I wouldn't be surprised if there were a couple of other mistakes in there somewhere

[@TReaperx]

samurai should be the highest damage it is the selfish melee and they are reducing damage thats wild while reaper getting buffed and already plays better overall and black mage needs a whole lot of dmg to be much stronger than the ranged classes

[@devxved]

Viper is also a selfish melee, but i agree

[@Bigalinbklyn83]

Viper don’t even have a defensive skill Vioer should be the highest

[@StripedSooner]

Lol. You just completely missed the reason for all the potency nerfs is because they’re getting double midare every single time? Keep up, buddy.

[@Lowgem]

Samurai might as well not even have a defense skill again

[@ivyscyther]

i love tanking as DRK good changes to reaper and viper god that singel target hunter's sidewinder action combo diffcult to do on flank now just rear thank god keep it up videos

[@mrfoobz5709]

The positional thing was a typo, they are still flank and rear respectively

[@roxxie552]

Buffs for Dark Knight, Ninja and Red Mage... Buffs for all my mains, specially Ninja, i'm happy 😊😊❤

[@Gbergman]

They didn’t need to change viper at all. It was already ez and now with removing noxious gnash, it’s gonna be stupid ez

[@DioDinero]

They took it off viper but not off of reaper, that’s kind of odd but I’m not complaining.

[@Zaikofortem]

It's called True North. Use it = Problem solved.

[@DioDinero]

@@Zaikofortem Noxious gnash/Death’s Design, not the positional. The positional is fine

[@yuhangma6901]

Blm is good for now? I want to try it but i heard it is so bad in 7.0

[@lushdontu4015]

Why do you need the opinions of others to tell you what job you can play? IMO black mage is too taxing and pictomancer and red mage are better and safer picks.

[@sphynx669]

It's still been fun in 7.0 if you like the playstyle, just a bit clunky with mana in my opinion between pulls. The umbral soul change is great in my opinion, so now we can regen mana between pulls in dungeons. Still annoying that we don't get non-standard rotations, but I dont see that being changed based on the new skills at lvl 100.

[@lushdontu4015]

@@sphynx669 black mage is just for people who want to deal less damage than pictomancer and suffer more

[@devxved]

So the changes are good, but thunder needs to last longer the fights have too much movement to refresh this buff properly without dropping flare star or losing out on dps, speaking of flare star, why does it do less damage than paradox when its harder to get, adding a critical direct hit guarenteed to flare star would actually help it. Leylines needs to do more than it does to be viable to bring black mage to savage content. But it does feel better to play at the moment.

[@thesnowman7590]

i know i haven't played monk in a while....but wtf when did their potency get so high???

[@aejrj2009]

Sam ONLY lost dmg... Wtaf

[@alexmaganda5827]

im trying to understand why they nerfed sam but leave picto untouched what?

[@karasutsuki1733]

U get Kaeshi after every Midare now, its a buff

[@alexmaganda5827]

@@karasutsuki1733 oh wow i did not see that cool

[@scifisyko]

MEIKYO SHOOSHEE?!?!

[@JRZTT]

I still think Picto need attune though, not only it do so much damage, it's also have a good utility. Why bring BLM to raid at all aside from you love it when Picto can do much better and also have utility. idn't say it have to be nerf but other class should be buff to match it. But we all knew that would never do, it much easier to nerf stronger single class than buff all other class.

[@inarikun1348]

AST is still going to feel terrible post prog. 💤 😴 I hope they rework the cards soon.

[@yuzuki2385]

Did they patch aglaia leveling method?

[@mrfoobz5709]

Nope just finished a run and it’s still fine

[@bonevgm]

I am really disappointed in the Samurai change. I was planning to prog with Samurai, but I think I'll be going as a tank after the changes. Putting more importance on Meikyo was what got me excited about this Samurai iteration and walking it back just makes me go meh on the job.

[@Rikadou]

A few things to note; BLM got a huge nerf to aoe, not a buff. Samurai complete nerf but it makes up for it since now anytime you complete a combo you can Tsubame. Viper's rework is interesting, but unsure how it'll play out.

[@Kylan22]

Wait, is that what that combo change meant? Even though I main Samurai I'm terrible remembering which name is what lol. If that's the case, it makes the nerfs much easier to swallow and makes him right in that it's a reallocation.

[@Rikadou]

​@@Kylan22 Yeah, it just makes it like endwalker samurai again; tsubame after every combo.

[@Kylan22]

@@Rikadou Replied to original comment chain. Unless I'm mistaken (which could well be) it's just a flat nerf, and just change to what gives us the buff.

[@Kylan22]

Disregard me, issue clarified in original post lol.

[@DrakeFury1]

I fail to see in how blm aoe got nerfed. They reduced the damage reduction on subsequent enemies. Reducing a reduction basically means increasing damage...

[@STOOPIDDUMBY]

Shouldn’t you be working on that new life or whatever

[@Shikaitsu]

which they woulod have buffef sage the cooldowns are so long ,like two of them are like 120 do any other classes have these long cooldowns and for more than one skill?

[@serunderscore]

Every other Healer has an 180s, a couple of 120s and a gaggle of 90s and 60s cooldowns

[@brazen_helm]

SCH: fey illumination 120s, chain stratagem 120s, summon seraph 120s, expedient 120s, dissipation 180s, seraphism 180s WHM: presence of mind 120s, temperance 120s, benediction 180s, liturgy of the bell 180s AST: synastry 120s, divination 120s, neutral sect 120s, macrocosmos 180s

[@JRZTT]

@@serunderscore Yeah but I felt that skill were weaker compare to healer other 180s skills. You also need to be able to do constantly dps to get a full out of it, and Sage barely have any movement damage kit. I need to spam the aoe skill in close range during movement just to get potency out of it if movement were require.

[@StarShadow9009]

​@@JRZTTphilosophia also works with healing skills. You can use eukrasian prognosis to trigger it.

[@JRZTT]

@@StarShadow9009 Oh, need to reread tool tip, thought it's only work like aoe kardia.

[@brianhorton6676]

Not grapes, wisteria.

[@JustFrey]

I do love some meikyo sushi

[@princessprincess0039]

You guys should read the job guide adjustments. They explain why picto does so much more damage.

[@isateasane]

What part of the job guide? Maybe i dont see it bc i look on mobile.

[@isateasane]

@@princessprincess0039 ok ya its a mobile issue i have nothing else at the bottom aside from saying to look at patch notes. But the patch notes has nothing of sort. I'll check it out later when im home. Thank you! :)

[@kaiplue]

THEY NEFRED SAM ACROSS THE BOARD. W h y

[@pawsouth2897]

reading comprehension brother. You get Tsubame after every Midare now

[@Kylan22]

@@pawsouth2897 I missed it at first too. To be fair even as a Samurai main I sometimes get lost in the action names when just reading them on paper, so to speak. Appreciate spreading correct information regardless though!

[@moonum4567]

I think infinite Tsubame's make up for it. No longer tied to Meikyo

[@Leon-he1yd]

​@Kylan22 Genuine question from someone who was getting into sam in DT did they change anything other than the potencies? I like how it works now so even not being top dps I'll still play it if it still plays as it did on DT release

[@kaiplue]

@@pawsouth2897 Srry it was a knee-jerk reaction on my part. Ppffp since I'm a new-ish player who's only got the SAM rotations down recently. But oh- the change for Tengentsu seems pretty neat too along with infinite Tsubame

[@mismismism]

I'm just glad Picto wasn't nerfed, I will die on the hill that it doesn't need nerfs. I'm honestly confused by some of these. Reaper and Viper getting buffs/quality of life is a choice, those 2 already seemed like the top DPS in general, at least from content I've been doing. BLM I'm mixed on still, some good changes but it still has some big pain points for me.

[@Kylan22]

I'm curious why you feel Picto doesn't need a nerf (My gf LOVES picto, so not trying to stir anything up; genuinely curious as someone who has only barely played Picto yet, and have heard and somewhat observed that its damage seems much higher than other jobs).

[@kyrxon277]

Right^^ I just saw black mage get half nerfed and half buffed. I don't play that class so idk if it's a so-called fair buff, but it makes me wonder if this expansion the devs want black mage to be mid tier while picto takes its place with all the nukes and dps.

[@mismismism]

@@Kylan22 Because it's harder to play effectively than VPR or RPR for most players. PCT having a slightly higher damage ceiling for the best players doesn't warrant a nerf IMO. Also they have the least actions per second so you lose more if you mess up, drop a long cast, etc. Similar with BLM, you lose a lot if you miss all your fire 4 casts. And Picto doesn't have raise so it's also in the same predicament as BLM where they need to do enough DPS to outweigh the safety net from SMN and RDM and the extreme simplicity of SMN meaning it's super consistent. I don't think the top melees are harder or anything that means they absolutely have to be the top DPS ceiling. Especially RPR since it has a buff too and heals but it's very easy to play. I just don't see the logic behind nerfing PCT instead of bringing BLM up and some of the melee that needed it. Especially now seeing that they buffed RPR, it's hard to complain about PCT and ignore that.

[@mismismism]

@@kyrxon277 I think they just don't know what to do with BLM. It feels like the changes were meant to replace the timer, like to retain the difficulty by removing a lot of movement and flexibility but they kept the timer so it just feels insanely restrictive, punishing and hard to play without a pay off in DPS that justifies it. To me, BLM should have the highest ceiling, especially after the changes. I'm just confused trying to understand what they're trying to do with BLM. The fights have so much movement and chaos now but they made BLM so inflexible and immobile by comparison to EW.

[@Kylan22]

@@mismismism I'll 100% agree that long cast jobs like BLM and Picto are harder to play well than something like Samurai or Reaper (generally prefer melee in this game overall as they're usually faster paced), but shouldn't BLM outdps Picto (if nothing else) purely by virtue that Picto is less "selfish" than BLM? (as in brings some utility, whereas BLM brings none, like the selfish melee Samurai and Viper, or Machinist compared to Bard and Dancer). I don't want to see the job nerfed into oblivion, as like I said my GF has fallen in love with it (she might even like it more than she likes Dancer), but it just seems quite strong for a less selfish dps. My question becomes, all things equal, why would one ever bring a BLM over a Picto? (not a truly solid argument, because you have to consider gear, player skill and experience, latency, and etc, but still something to consider).

[@pyro5159]

So SAM got another nerf huh? They must think this purely dps no utility job is too strong. While the other melee keeps getting buffed as for drk they must hate it and gnb since those 2 keep getting screwed while pld and war yes war keeps getting buffs looks like the classes aren't so balanced after welcome to the WoW segment where some classes are broken while others are screwed

[@miguronmamiberuna439]

is this game trash ? the balance seems very bad, everybody complains

[@BS-se4yg]

This game objectively has one of the best balances across all major MMOs. We don't complain because it's bad, we complain because we want it to be better. There's a smaller dps difference between the highest and the lowest rDPS jobs in FFXIV than there is between the highest and 3rd highest DPS in WoW.

[@ShindoWonderland]

First meoooow

[@ColeEvyx]

mow

[@bransonchic678]

Still nothing about Viera hats lol,I always have my hopes up that they would finally give Viera and hyrogathar hats

[@dantedaz3864]

Sam is all reduced no increase in the list at all.

[@micman963]

every midare can be used 2x now is why

[@dantedaz3864]

@@micman963 i was thinking that but i get a feeling reducing everything will still nerf more than roughly 2 more setsugeka per cycle. But i will have to test it to see.

[@MisteRRYouTuby]

So Viper, like Astrologian before it, is an inferior job.