Patek Philippe is Changing!

[@ryanelectra225]

The world is becoming more casual, Patek needs watches like these.

[@AdamEve-ie3yr]

What world are you on ? I feel my world is different

[@raymondhernandez]

Two years later, after price hike, it’s readily available in all the boutiques.

[@anthonyvierra1975]

I think these two watches are fantastic. They're more of a casual every day wear. I think these will be a smash hit.

[@spencerstein8525]

You thought Longine. I thought Oris big crown. In either case it’s far too derivative a design for the price. Patek is trying to make a $30,000 field style watch. Ridiculous.

[@ams914]

It's really not ridiculous to people who buy 30k watches. It's all relative.

[@bighands69]

@@ams914 It is a beautiful looking watch that people wear and is well made why not charge 30k it is something that a person will really look after.

[@awong5726]

I am impressed by Patek’s audacity to break new ground. These new models bridge the gap between classic dress watch and sport watch. I would surely buy them, if I can ever get one from AD

[@j.burgess4459]

From what my AD told me, these new watches wont be restricted like the steel references - so people should be able to get them within a reasonable timescale (unless demand goes right of the freaking scale...)

[@qiaodk]

At our store, we have 11 people waiting and until now we have received 2 pieces. So I think the waiting time would be around 3-4 years.

[@kimcoulter806]

Never been a big Calatrava fan but luv, luv, luv this new dial!

[@crjcpa20]

I actually like it very much. Maybe too pricey but for Patek customers maybe not. The switch of the straps, this can be an everyday wear for me.

[@j.burgess4459]

I think the watch is an absolute home run. For me it was like deja vu from a couple of years back when they launched the 5212A - almost the very minute I saw it I knew I wanted it and contacted my AD to get my butt on the interest list. Sure, this new one has a very sporty and smart-casual vibe and may appeal to a younger audience. Is is still quintessentially Patek? Well, historically they actually did make some more functional designs aimed at pilots, and certain other professions, didn't they? But even if we see this as something radically new, then it would merely be a case of their changing to reflect modern society. People are much more likely to wear smart casual attire nowadays - including in some professional situations where a suit and tie and polished shoes and a dress watch would previously have been expected. And even in those situations where people are still wearing formal clothes, watch etiquette has continually loosened up over recent decades, hasn't it? People can now even wear a diver's watch on a rubber strap in situations where it would have been and out-and-out fashion faux pas 30 or 40 years ago. So I don't see any problem with the watch in that regard.

[@ref6122]

Patek wants to be an upscale Hamilton now.More tough field and aviation watches to come.

[@1pauld]

lol what? Patek definitely does not want to be a Hamilton anything lmao

[@ref6122]

I meant it in a sarcastic way.That vintage field watch aesthetic is more what you would expect from Hamilton,not Patek.

[@harg8939]

I honestly think there may be a shift from the steel sport watches to something like this new Calatrava model with a unique dial. Good thing Patek is not following the colorful dial trend!

[@kamil4149]

The best looking Pateks from this year W&W are for me the salmon dial chrono and perpetual calendar, it's nice to see sth different among all those green and tiffany watches. Those colors are great, don't get me wrong, but especially with green, the list of brand that haven't recently used it is a really short one.

[@triniboy05]

I prefer the Longines.

[@dannysimenauer5745]

John, you look very stylish in this video! I like that Patek is coming out with two new models and doing something different and stylish at the same time. Unlike Rolex which isn’t as innovative. The dials could use some color, and they remind me of AnOrdain dials. Unfortunately as you suggested, most of us will never get a chance to buy them from an AD.

[@NoOne-ki3bm]

I get your take in regard to the Tiffany Nautilus being a copycat, but the design elements of these new Calatravas, although much more different than their previous models, are unique and do carry over some of the design elements of their predecessors.

[@kenshilcock7198]

If they maintain their current lines alongside these then why *not* try additional things. The calendar model is gorgeous. I do feel that, on the date model, the window breaks the lines and doesn't fit with the time period that the watch is intended to emulate.

[@juniorgallo8786]

Why are they blatantly copying a Longines model? Are they cognitive dissonant? Why?

[@jasonb4988]

I beg to differ .. Patek is not trying to “young” it down. It’s when they want to time it. It’s VERY COOL ! Love the two new Calatrava designs.

[@BigZebraCom]

1 Jacket , 1 T-Shirt, but no collared shirt! What the actual hell?

[@XxXHardcoreshredderxXXxxxxxxxx]

Pretty American overall

[@Christian-kn2sr]

Just my opinion, I love it. It brings back light to the Calatrava line.

[@watchchimp3102]

Field/pilots watches are very on point right now. It's a classic style that suits them more than a diver would. Actually, it's a spitting image of the Axios Pathfinder! 😉

[@b.a.baracus3584]

Habring Erwin Pilot

[@LudekVokac]

I think the watch is amazing. Maybe not "THE" Patek, but that might be a very good thing. For me, it's an absolutely unobtainable watch, but I could imagine this would be a very nice topping of my collection should I ever be able to afford it. It's a very nice "sleeper" watch, a true luxury piece that doesn't scream that luxury... A very understated, elegant, almost blending in with other field style watches. I like unusual watches that can stand out, but the higher the pricepoint, the more conservative I get, that's something I found out about myself throughout the years of collecting watches. So I really like this piece.

[@kitstter]

I really like these new watches. May even be a bonus that it looks like a Longines - hiding your Patek in plain sight. At least for me, I'd prefer it wasn't obvious I was wearing a Patek, as I would be happy to enjoy it on my own (so to speak).

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

I personally really like these watches, but do feel they’re not in line with their other designs. Looking sharp brother!

[@tomaszzembrowski]

Royal Oak or new Calatrava?

[@KBD-ONE]

The new Nautilus.... 5226G ⚒️

[@ellmusic769]

Loving the new models. Crazy prices tho....

[@AcmeRocket]

They can do whatever they want and will still as many watches as they feel like making. So, maybe the watch maker's/designers were/are bored AF with more traditional Calatrava and as others have pointed out, since dressing up is far more casual today, why not make a more casual dress line. I don't agree with comparing it to other brands. Yes, there are similar elements, but if you were to see them in person side by side the differences in quality, material, texture, detail is world's apart. In the end, we are talking about a round time price so you have limited boundaries in terms of new design. At least they didn't just turn an old design upside down :).

[@kadircelikYT]

this calatrava is my favorite patek yet.

[@Rinzorinz]

I think this watch is cool. And is not a risk

[@adamnsandler1607]

it just makes me think when steve buscemi was dressed as a high school student while holding a skateboard

[@adrianstephenmulyadi1226]

Different set of hands, dial, case, and looks and somehow people say it's the same. But nobody say odysseus look like another integrated steel sport watch. Strange ?

[@ErikL727]

It *cough* sorta looks like a $400 Axios Pathfinder

[@jonathanramos3286]

I was thinking the exact same thing.

[@neilmartin7776]

Maybe it's me but rather than Longines, I see more parallels with Audemars Piguet. In 1972, AP came out with the Royal Oak and PP followed in '76 with the Nautilus. In 2019, AP came out with the Code 11:59 and now PP has come out with these. They're both precious metal round cases, with rather subdued dials with Arabic numerals and I think the design language is very deliberate - in the 70s, AP and PP were trying to stay relevant, and now both brands are trying to move away from the steel sports models that have come to define them. It's a return to the classic styling these manufacturers were known for, albeit with a modern twist.

[@zhaowei3025]

The textured dial is cheap and horrible . Look at what Grand seiiko dials are compared to this.

[@dannysimenauer5745]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but the dial color is very drab. The dial is similar to AnOrdain which pioneered the textured dial. PP could add more color to its dial to make these more appealing.

[@bergerecossais]

Am I the only guy who thinks they’ve made an Axios Pathfinder Homage?

[@josevasquez1781]

It's ridiculous that one cannot get hi end watches at retail, but prices above manufacture suggested retail only. Silly.

[@nicovandyk3856]

Very interesting take: I think that is exactly what my issue is with BMW atm: They were always the brand that devised option with looks, only to have other brands copy them a couple of years later. That is no longer the case. Also electric with the i3 & i7 - now other brands have dedicated electric ranges and BMW don’t. When I saw these two watches, I immediately thought I like their looks a lot, but I can definitely see the validity of your argument: Patek & BMW were trend setters, but now have become complacent trend followers which devalues their brands. With Patek though, I don’t know if it is that bad: You used the example of everyone following them with the Genta integrated steel Nautilus: Not entirely true, exactly an example where Patek previously followed the trend of AP with Royal Oak (Everyone, including PP followed AP). Also, the hob-nail sides on the case: That was already used in the steel Grandmaster Chime. The face even looks to me somewhat like their vintage pilot watches. All in all, I am in two: I can see the argument for them devaluing themselves by being trend followers instead of trend-setters, but I don’t see these two as following others as I think these looks like updated versions of vintage PP pilots (Instead of mimicking others)

[@joewestfall9682]

These two watches were the best releases at WW this year. Just my opinion.

[@Perriermaster9]

the 5226G is a totally amazing watch. It's staggeringly good. patek's new collection is bang up-to-date and adds to the fabulous history of an impeccable brand. these two watches are awesome - your comments about them not being AP are absurd.

[@alouie001]

The dials remind me of Seiko.

[@matthewblair4963]

Looks like a Seiko Baby Alpinist, which goes for $700.

[@hishamhabib666]

Hey 👋 John. I get what you’re saying but maybe Patek is trying to tap into the “casual”, “ younger “ market. The Calatrava’s have been there and always will be. I guess some people find them boring is all. I do understand what you’re trying to say but this is just my opinion. The quality of these watches with the Patek seal will be amazing! Cheers 🍻

[@stevenlui8105]

Love both. If I had to pick one, it’d be 5226G. Will definitely try to get one from my AD.

[@oller6073]

Looks exactly like the Axio Pathfinder watches that came out earlier this year

[@shuaibshariff2797]

Longines? You must be joking. This is PP at its innovative finest!

[@1023beaner]

While watching your video I couldn't help but think "damn that looks like a Longines"...and then you said it not 30 seconds later... I completely agree with everything youre saying... PS, love your specs...what kind are they?

[@Sovnarkom]

It looks like a heritage pilot watch. I don’t get the claims that it looks “new” when the closest equivalents come from vintage revival companies.

[@mrgadget4863]

I like those watches. What's wrong with opening a different revenue path. These are watches that do not cry out I am expensive at first glance so they are more safely wearable. Ultimately my only point of criticism is that they are not available in a steel version

[@andersonmcintosh7214]

I think these watches are amazing and the travel time is perfection.

[@86BBUB]

Patek introduces two atypical models and the takeaway is that PATEK IS CHANGING ! - LOL

[@jasont4847]

I'm not sure it's such a huge departure- to me it looks like a chimera of a calatrava and an aquanaut.

[@silverlakeas]

I really like these designs.Patek Caletrava can be pretty bland.

[@treykasia127]

I can tell a huge difference between the Longine & PP. And there are only 2 other watches that I'm aware of that harbours the same complications as the 5325 (and I'm a sucker for this combo). One's a Rolex and the other's a UN. As much as I like this watch~ I don't entertain the retail games that are being played, particularly with PP. So no matter how much I like this complication combo, I won't be chasing anyone to spend my money. If they come to me... I may consider it. Otherwise the likes of Ferrari, Rolex, Hermes & PP can suck it. There is a huge market of fantastic product out there to consume.

[@bighands69]

There are no retail games. The market has grown and those companies move slow and do not want to be getting into the swings of the marketplace. If things continue at this pace for the next decade they will adjust and start increasing production. There quality is so high so they cannot just at click of a finger just start up a new line. It could cost them $100 million to set up a new line. And they may require 10000 watch sales to make a return out of that.

[@treykasia127]

@@bighands69 This is not a simple traditional capitalistic "supply / demand" issue. If it were, then the "elite buyer" concept wouldn't exist. Look at the examples of Sam's Wholesale, Cosco, ect... and Rolex makes almost 1MM watches a year on assembly lines.... high quality yes but not special. The "games" to which I refer are much bigger than the luxury watch market and ripples into everyone's interest. Equity firms are funding grey market retailers to spool up demand and increased prices for the purposes of money velocity. I'm afraid that this new layer of "retail" may find its way into markets as fundamental as food. Those are unethical (to traditional capitalism) games in my opinion.

[@wika1984]

At first I thought I was looking at an IWC on your thumbnail.

[@blasien1]

Buy a Longines Spirit instead and put the savings towards a nice car

[@gregorius2754]

Great take!

[@BoozewithNick]

I like the 5266G, it’s about time Patek started taking design cues from RZE. *lol*

[@travontetheboringgamer8496]

I love these new design

[@nicholaspapoulias9280]

It reminds me of a Timex

[@watchr0b]

I’m going to my AD to ask after one asap

[@Watchtrain]

It looks like the Longines with a blacktop patch dial. They need a Tudor like little brother to spin these things from. I know they aren't dropping the quality, but the look isn't Patek Philippe in my eyes.

[@joshn.5625]

It looks just like the Seiko Baby Alpinist, down to the textured dial.

[@jw999]

That's what I thought of Nautilus 15 years ago!! 😝

[@troymooyoung7550]

I don't get it ..... there are 82 classic design watches that patek has on offer - minus the Aquanaut/Nautilus/Twenty 4 ....... whats wrong with testing the waters with 2 new direction models? They did good with the 5524G/R.

[@WestCoastAce27]

$39k for a field watch - wow! Great design. Maybe they’re thinking super rich granddad buys these for his 12 yr old grandson - starter watch for the 0.1%

[@KezAH-GT]

That's my feeling but let's be honest the granddad will keep it for themselves. For the 0.1 younger people who can buy a genuine Patek they still will want the nautilus.

[@ShaneLindie]

The dial matches your jacket....🤔

[@johnscott4693]

Now you must buy a “traditional” model before u can enjoy a Nautilus, this is a great option. Mine is on order (£59,950).

[@SB-wr7hf]

Looks eerily similar to a Seiko sbdc137 to me, almost like an homage piece.

[@konstantin3101]

Longines is well known for their military watches back in the days. So saying “they are trying things that they have not being known for” is actually incorrect. At the same time there is absolutely nothing wrong with this new Patek designs. If you want classical Calatrava, just go ahead and get one, it’s not discontinued.

[@bighands69]

The danger is that the new calatrava line could end up dominating the calatrava line to the point that the classic calatrava disappears. It could have been a perfect opportunity for them to release a new sports line of watches that suits casual beauty.

[@konstantin3101]

I am kinda getting the point. For some reason dress watches are not popular today, but probably their idea was opposite: to draw the attention of the audience on Calatrava line by releasing this field/more casual model.

[@jacobs1127]

I totally dig it, for my it's like the expensive versión of a Longines model. And it's cool a watch the Longines watch, but not enough expensive for a millionare to buy. And also Patek didn't want to follow the current colorfull trend, I guess.

[@KeepoKreepo]

Reminds me of an Axios Pathfinder slightly. Nice looker, I'm well priced out of it though lmao Apparently not the only person either xD

[@SoonJin95]

Looks like an expensive Axios Pathfinder to me.

[@big_george_nyc]

It started with the 5524 Patek is moving in a different direction

[@thenameisYU]

Either way, Patek is Patek. Good luck getting any piece first and foremost, so whatever happens, they will sell and they will never be at any kind of “risk”.

[@jw999]

Patek is trying to start a new line of watches for young customers. Nothing wrong with that. Nautilus has become too popular and their other lines are too classic. Meanwhile, AP almost ONLY sells Royal Oaks... Very different business approaches.

[@zgfvavw3037]

This case in white gold, with the classic white dial would be sweeet. That dial is a little faux patina, great for say Tudor, not Patek

[@conradcoolerfiend]

I don’t see what the problem is releasing a couple watches that appeal to younger people. It’s not like they are pivoting half their lineup.

[@tommythevenow3476]

Saying that you would wear a $39K watch is damning it with faint praise. I mean, isn't that the least you could expect from a new PP release. I think this watch will be non-starter for PP.

[@laus7080]

Your camera setup - angle, post processing and blazer-pants combo are a bit cringy. I'm not hating, just something you can improve.

[@adammork7171]

If it didnt say “Patek” on the dial we’d all think it was a cheap watch

[@boeingdriver29]

Love the syringe hands.

[@jaime4022]

Oh. I see! Patek is now changing into Hamilton!

[@torskungen1]

It is a Hamilton Khaki Aviation Pioneer Mechanical Homage

[@steveblake8766]

I really like this design. If I could only afford one....

[@my0.02cents]

That dial is a deal breaker. The design is boring. Im not impressed at all. It looks lazy to me. I would have been happier with a small incremental change in any of the classic models than this. This guy nailed it an expensive longines.

[@yc1228]

It is a awesome looking watch. Love it.

[@bm5192]

That’s a cool hamil…………. Patek????

[@WestCoastAce27]

That’s what I was thinking, not Longines.

[@L.A.C_Santos]

I like them,but I’m not sure they should be calatravas. Maybe PP should have named them as something new. When u say calatrava you think about classic simple minimalist. These are not.

[@stevesmith7997]

Stunning ! The Best bar none! I would pay for this 30k longines copy if i could afford it!

[@דןשלמה-ו7נ]

I think those watches can be good addition to Patek, but like always they are very expensive without any solid reasons, the quality I believe is there, but people should considering other brands, no way their watches are the best, 33,000$US for a basic complications, movement that coming from JLC?

[@gizamlukeable]

Very expansive high end SPB159.

[@markymark3572]

Fascinating move by Patek. Not a headline that will ever be applied to Rolex

[@am-techam-tech9342]

Respectfully disagree. It’s similar to a younger person decorating their house with antique furniture as a sign of sophistication or wealth. Those days are over. These two watches represent a nod to that heritage, but won’t make a buyer look like his grandparents.

[@dieterspecht36]

If it was Jaquet Droz, it would have me thinking "This is a great usd 10 k + watch". I don t think this take on the calatrava is justifying the usd 40 - 50 k price . I mean it s way too trendy and casual. I can t think of "Mereley looking after it for the next generation" for this one, I think in 2050 timeless style will still be a thing. Take care.

[@tomlucas4269]

it looks to cheap.. plasticy.. You are right about the comparison with longines. Movement is still amazing

[@Rinzorinz]

Watch interview with the president of ptek. He said the inspiration of the dial was his friend who was collecting cameras

[@brandheadlights]

You make good points John P. I will say that the lettering on the dial should have been more like contemporary Audemars Piguet where the brand name has a cleaner look and it makes a seamless transition to the rest of the dial.

[@_Peter_.]

Watch releases 2022: Patek 2:3 Vacheron Do like the new Pateks but IMHO the new Vacheron 222 release was a bit hotter…

[@loriosterweil982]

I don’t think it’s a mistake if it brings younger people into their brand. I like what they’re offering but since I’m not young and edgy, I would stick with the classics.