Path of Exile 3.19 Balance Manifesto Review (main parts)

[@pathofmatth]

I don't know why my camera quality was sooooo bad, apologies for that... Also, I keep increasing my mic volume but it doesn't seem like it's doing anything, I don't quite get it. I'll try and make sure it's louder in future videos!

[@AhreFox]

Hey whats about explosive arrow starters?

[@onbored9627]

Do you happen to use Krisp for removing background noise? It has an option that automatically locks volume to a determined level. Perhaps that is your issue. If you try increasing it with the lock on, nothing will happen. Or maybe some other program is doing it.

[@pathofmatth]

@@onbored9627 Nah I have no idea what Krisp is ^^

[@onbored9627]

@@pathofmatth It's a 3rd party microphone/speaker background noise remover. It's pretty solid, I think it comes built into discord now.

[@basima5614]

Divine blessing is still available for most builds since you can take divergent inspiration and the flask affix mod the sorcerer with enkindling gives you 58% giving a total of 102% reduced mana to the skill which makes it cost 0 mana.

[@pathofmatth]

bit of opportunity cost but it's actually not a bad solution, esp. if you have a mageblood ofc

[@monsieurschatz4859]

Divergent inspiration means -1 gem socket, not that many builds can naturally afford that these days, and it's one of the most expensive alt qual gems in the game, currently around 3.5-4 ex. Is we increased demand, it's literally gonna skyrocket. Anyway, i have the feeling Heist will remain quite worth it.

[@basima5614]

@@monsieurschatz4859 You were using lifetap originally with the blessing skill so not additional sockets are used. You only need divergent if your mana is too low for the regular version.

[@monsieurschatz4859]

@@basima5614 Jeez i'm so dumb, sorry, thanks !

[@BobWasThere-]

whatever happens in the patch notes, i'm NOT playing seismic again

[@VoiceLegion]

Why?

[@yosi1653]

You dont have any other options

[@welder77]

That's what they all say

[@stask5387]

"traps and mines are for tryhards" - cutedog

[@ThePhildozer89]

I never have. Tons of viable builds.

[@xMythra]

Re: grasping mail mod, it was only super strong and used heavily because of recombinators, which won't exist next league.

[@pathofmatth]

Not entirely true, it was very popular the prior league, just not usable on every base type, but every build that could use grasping did use it, just wasn't BiS for things like pure ES builds or build using Astral plates

[@philippwolf6088]

its still good if you can fracture it

[@CorrexPoE]

this killed my build so badly.. armourstacker, not using doryanis prototype, but a rare 100% global defenses. not only did they nerf the global defense, making it 10x worse then using prototype, but also they nerfed defiance banner, the biggest dmg buff i could add for a 0 reservation gem due to champ if that wasnt enough, a cap for melding cuts my defense in half if it wasnt enough, on top even the rmr mastery.. my build got cut in half if not more

[@pathofmatth]

ye armour stacker seems like it took a nose-dive, but consider this... armour stacker was an extremely broken build abusing a bunch of different mechanics which have been considered far too strong for quite some time... so maybe it's not such a bad thing?

[@Sunrunner663]

So, I'm excited for the coming league aswell but if it's being a second 3.15 I'm probably dropping out fast...

[@slitaitana6212]

but you can play RF/DD/CI coc again for the 4th league in a row but this time!!!! Slightly worse... wouldn't that be fun!?

[@vladafanasjev9808]

A bit tired of Seismic already... :( I know it might be too much to ask, but if possible can you give us some more build guides? Maybe RF or some newbie-friendly melee build? I know there are other people who make great guides for those builds...but I just really like following your guides, it's easy and always working.

[@pathofmatth]

I've got some ideas in the works ^^

[@Stratos1988]

I concur. Started playing this game about 3 weeks ago, I am STR player and would like to stick with it, but I just plain don't have game knowlage to choose league starter. I do know 2 guys that will play with me, but there is also a problem of pace.

[@jollyjester177]

The hydro sphere nerf to arakalis is worse than mentioned, they can no longer hit it at all. "Only allow Hydrosphere to be hit by the entity that cast it."

[@pathofmatth]

ye alongside the other nerfs it's probably around 25% less dmg or so, I mean, still playable but probably not going to feel great until squire

[@WesternHypernormalization]

Gravicious mod was also used to by some builds for easy mana fixing with Eldritch Battery.

[@pathofmatth]

true, I did that myself on an early version of my trapper actually, before getting devouring diadem with some crappy body armour

[@financecommonsense962]

Do not worry little friend. They will fix mana eventually. Someday. Maybe 4.20

[@DeonixChannel]

I agree with you about flasks. 7 charges is nice, but for me it's was always feels like overkill. BTW. What do you think about EA nerf?

[@4X10S]

3-4-5 would be more fair and a slower change, if it was still superior - fine, do 2-3-4. But 1-2-3 is pretty much overkill and pathfinder is pretty dead ascendancy now. They brought this update just like previous flask nerf, totally nuking it from the orbit instead of taking it slowly and to not anger majority of playbase with their absurd changes.

[@bradd4983]

I don't know if you'll respond, but you said minion nerf across the board. Do you think the changes to golems might be a buff? Like worth running flame golem ele

[@4X10S]

Scion might be the new superior minion ascendancy for you can get +2 in helmet, grab OS from Templar, Mistress from Witch and Tailwind from Ranger (or vice versa any third ascendancy via forbidden jewels) with more options available from the new gear (if it's even good) I think some minion builds can survive with this, other gotta adapt.. I'd say any elemental minion has to go Scion now, while Phys/Poison builds can still find niche in necro, but it's truly dead ascendancy now.

[@xcmedinA]

Thank you for recapping ghazzys video here

[@senzosanjuro1769]

I played EA elem totem this league, the dps is amazing but too weak to survive ubber Sirus phases, I was hyped for Seismic trap next league, but with this big nerf dmg+defenses do you think it will be possible to do ubber Sirus / Maven fight without to invest tons of exalts (I'm casual player and if I can reach 100 ex in a season I'm lucky) ?

[@alllucky7777s]

you can get grasping mails with the defence mod by trading breach rings dropped in maps. you don't need to run breachstones

[@pathofmatth]

when you run flawless chayula, the body armour drops already fractured ^^

[@elizkine5472]

Hi Math, will there be a guide for Seismic trap 3.19? =D

[@pathofmatth]

Of course there will be ^^ the changes to both suppress and charged based traps will make it a bit different to build this time around unless patch notes completely ruin it of course

[@elizkine5472]

@@pathofmatth your guides are very helpful bro, im new to poe. Keep it up =D

[@Billy4321able]

Hey what do you think the most overpowered yet underused skill is? I noticed some skills like searing bond totem have solid numbers but no one plays them at all.

[@pnutbteronbwlz9799]

“Even at 50% it’s going to be stronger than any other mod” If it’s stronger still when nerfed in half, it was too OP before.

[@denispatty]

World is changing, while community is freaking out Math is concise, realistic and calm! 😂😂😂 as always great vid Math

[@pathofmatth]

I like to sleep on things before I make an "official" statement about how I feel about it

[@kkplx]

It helps that he plays the game at the level they aim to balance for, compared to 99.99% of players. Of course in that case the changes are just - a speedbump to be worked out or around. I'll check the full notes, but it sounds like a dead league to a more casual player like me. Matth is here as always for a well organized high skill perspective.

[@pathofmatth]

@@kkplx I'd like to understand though... how does any of these changes affect you more than me? Like how does any of the changes affect casual players more than anyone else? The changes are the same for everyone, no?

[@kkplx]

@@pathofmatth ill try to get back to you in the evening when im not typing on a phone, id like to elaborate

[@The_Crucifix]

@@pathofmatth You are absolutely right, poe is the same for everyone. The fact that someone conditionally plays it worse than you, only means that he knows less about the game and has less experience. This is an absolutely honest system where your knowledge solves everything

[@kiragi17]

I'm upset because this was no where near the volume of festos I expected.

[@Mongrethod5000]

Obviously RF is fine, but I do feel like its a bit more of a nerf than just some fire trap single target - Melding nerf, grav craft, reservation mastery, defiance banner, possibly spell suppresion; all kinda smack it. You really need like perfect eldritch implicits or dropping a dps cluster now to get 90% all res. Also quite a bit harder to craft your scepter and amulet without recombs. I would say it's significantly weaker, but considering it was immortal and obviously OP before, I'm fine with the nerf.

[@roundishcap]

The numbers for srs are good, but could be better. Minions are supposed to scale hard with gear now, which they did anyway. The changes are odd, like they added crit nodes, but reduced crit from charges by like 400% and nerfed brittle. Remember minions are getting a blanket life and dmg nerf of around 10 and 20% according to the manifesto, essentially SRS is getting a 20ish% increase at lvl 20 and like 5% at lvl 1. For minions to be as good they very well rolled mods on items, and minion builds don't have a lot of build options in slotting in new gems/uniques. Crafting minion gear is going to be much more difficult with the addition of many new mods diluting the pool even more. Hopefully they add/change minion essence mods to be better or have higher values. Hopefully they reduce monster damage by like 20% (or move and attack speed honestly) if defense nerfs continue. A lot of content is very overtuned. In a lot of cases players may not want suppression rolls if they get it from the tree, making some mods dead on otherwise good items. Overgeared seismic trap players on the other-hand gets no nerf at all since they one shot content. Patch notes can change all of this.

[@wristcutwristcut1743]

it might seems like i'm on a high copium but skelemages aren't that murdered as people think. We already got +2 global on helmet to negotiate ascendancy nerf and for some reason i'm 99% sure that new rings/shields/wand mods will help negotiate power/frenzy chrages nerfs

[@Habib_Osman]

You mean mitigate. But yes, I have the same feeling.

[@Emilstekcor]

Wtf, dude I swear I haven't seen a notification from you in months. I have the bell setup and everything.

[@pathofmatth]

Couldn't tell you, it does seem like my yt viewership took a nose-dive in the last couple leagues, maybe my content is just bad or idk youtube sorta blacklisting me or something idk haha

[@lameristotel]

@@pathofmatth Youre definitely one of the best poe content on Yt

[@pathofmatth]

@@lameristotel thanks man

[@TheDublord21]

@@pathofmatth no the algo is just fucked, youtube never shows me your videos i always have to go to your chanel

[@pathofmatth]

@@TheDublord21 damn what the heck... I wonder if I should email them about this or something... It has been kind of demoralizing seeing my youtube stats in recent months... Hmmmm

[@malcom7536]

Why have i never heard of a cast on death build? Thought it was just a meme wtf

[@moongameplay4316]

Look it up its insane build

[@adeirfanwahyudin2215]

Its used highly by eldirtch boss farmer for ashes and omni

[@agentdalecooper1406]

seismic starter 4th league in a row? despair

[@Somerled_Pox]

Sad for Divine Blessing, but minions sound fine. Interested to see what will happen

[@Ilyak1986]

Pathfinders get murdered by the flask change, though. It basically means Master Surgeon got cut by 58%. I understand *why* the nerf needed to happen, but it seems that the flask nerf is the worst of all worlds--it allows just about any build without investment to trivially sustain flasks in mapping situations, and smashes an ascendancy that didn't need to be smashed that way.

[@hoozimajiget]

Ashes of the Stars stonks rising? Feels it will be even more of a big chase item with the loss of the rmr and nerfed life reservation efficiency masteries on the tree.

[@nicoinformatics]

I don't know what's with all the doomsayers kept talking about minion is dead. That's not even the point of the minion changes, what GGG was trying to "kill" was all the overused minion builds like skelemages, and the only minion "builds" that's effectively using bone's +3 to socketed minion is just spectres (yes AG is affected as well), there are virtually no changes to the other minion archetypes except for arakaali. The changes to how ailments work for minions are absolutely batsht insane, there was a reason why minions were made that way originally (I believe Mark have said some comments about it in the past). What GGG was trying to do is to shift the popular minion metas to other archetypes, instead of just completely overused ones like spectres, skelemages and arakaali every single league for the past 3 leagues. People seem to forget that there are a lot of other minion archetypes that's long forgotten for the past few leagues, HoP, HoA, even golems are much stronger after these changes. They're already quite strong last league and they can now apply ailments without penalties and you guys are saying minions are dead? are you serious?

[@VoiDukkha]

SRS gogogo

[@rikkirikk927]

When i looked over it I felt as minions got a buff not a nerf sure some things are worse but you also have things like +2 to all minion gems on helm now instead of just socketed which is cool imo

[@syph5487]

We lost the +2 in ascendancy, so we didn't really win with alot of builds using main skills in helmet, we lost 3 levels on main skill if it was in helmet.

[@onbored9627]

It's most definitely a heavy nerf. -5 levels, +2 is still -3. and on top of that spectre level is being lowered AGAIN which is effecitvely another level. Unless those new minion modifiers are absolutely insane, it's going to hurt pretty bad. Basically, with BiS gear you are going be reaching the same level as a budget geared character of the previous league.

[@ragingnep]

Wardloop is loss way more than just 33% dmg because Omni got nerfed. You need to get Res instead of attributes because of the Omni need which decreases your DMG even more

[@pathofmatth]

you were already able to get the res quite easily since without recombs you can't get triple attributes anyways, so it won't be much of a difference than prior to recombs

[@ragingnep]

@@pathofmatth maybe at the very top end of wardloop but at around 1250 omni I was just barely able to cap out Res with 90 cold and light Res from gear and 50 fire from dying sun and another 36 for all ele on another magic flask that build was already around 200ex on week 3. With the Omni nerf I won't even be near capping Res. Also even on the top top tier wardloop on Poe ninja right now with recombinator gears. After the Omni nerf they won't be able to hit Res cap and you won't be able to get these gears without sinking way more currency into it next league so at a low to mid upper end of wardloop you probably are losing around 45% of your damage

[@pathofmatth]

@@ragingnep no, it just means you'll have to give up dmg for res, which is the whole point of the nerfs tbh. Wardloop was far too strong, the ceiling was especially insanely high. I don't think it'll be 45% though, you have to consider that new things are coming with the league as well. I'm expecting around a 30-35% less dmg overall with the same budget. Still going to be a solid 2nd build to play for endgame I think

[@ragingnep]

@@pathofmatth the items you can use on a wardloop is already fixed. So unless there's a new busted spell or jewel I don't see how wardloop can recover the DMG loss from Omni and cwdt nerf but I guess we'll just have to wait for patch. Accounting for the Omni nerf I have to drop around 300 Omni to cap my Res which is already a 24% dmg loss not accounting cwdt nerf

[@pathofmatth]

​@@ragingnep Sure but on the super high-end that build was doing something like 300 million DPS in an actual scenario, literally insta killing uber bosses with tank mods even if you cut that in half, that's 150 million DPS People get way too worried about the % nerfs and don't really pay attention to the actual damage numbers The build does ridiculous damage, it's waaaaaaaay overkill, they could nerf it by half and it would still be overkill on the ceiling, at the mid-high investment it would be much weaker of course but again, still very much playable, or might as well call it "balanced" I guess we need patch notes and PoB updates to see the damage numbers though, but I'm sure wardloop will be just fine.

[@MrBuns-yi2hk]

My biggest gripe is the zombie nerf like... nobody runs zombies and you are going to nerf them?

[@FreeStyleProjector]

What do you means there is plenty of 10 mirror Zombie builds out there that AFK the endgame. NERF them ! Surely the average player that cannot accumulate even 50 Ex during a league will not suffer ?

[@209Richsta]

Lol for reals. Movement speed is super important for Zombies. I remember a few years ago, someone made a comparison of Zombies w/ no additional movement speed vs Zombies w/ high movement speed. The high movement speed Zombies looked almost agressive.

[@209Richsta]

@@FreeStyleProjector I partially agree with u. Only problem is Zombies feel horrible until u invest highly and gain at least lvl 90+. Anything until then feels like crap. I played Zombiemancer before support nerfs despite being non meta, and despite needing to invest it was still very doable as a starter. Decided to give it a try in 3.17 and it felt horrible and I decided on something else.

[@MrBuns-yi2hk]

This is probably just me huffing copium, but maybe they are updating zombies to give them new abilities or maybe they are adding buffing zombie items/new support gems?

[@kyojincat4031]

Is elementalist ea ballista a good option for this league too ?

[@wulfenheim9242]

i appreciate you not following the hype train and overreacting to every single change.

[@daemonphil3132]

i am a sunder boy, i am happy

[@ReJistic]

Please tell me, I did not quite understand correctly. Should I still use Leadership's Price for the starting character or is it RIP ?

[@pathofmatth]

it depends, the baseline of 15% crit is now 6%, it's a nerf of over half, but technically 6% is still just about doubling the base crit of most skill gems

[@kodikun]

I was going to league start PoCo Pathfinder and eventually move to an omni ts deadeye build, but with the flagellent nerf I'm not sure poco is going to be good. Would I be better off going with something like lightning arrow? is omni ts even going to be the way to go, or is there something better than ts since the brittle nerf?

[@zikjegaming6652]

Why wouldn’t it be good anymore?

[@undert0ww579]

Poco will be a fine build still. Good leveling and early mapping, but will need investment to take on end game

[@pathofmatth]

pconc gets so many flask charges passively, that change won't affect it at all, I can almost guarantee you that

[@zikjegaming6652]

@@undert0ww579 regarding requiring investment forthe end game, i understood that this was already the case

[@kodikun]

@@pathofmatth ty!

[@TOGGGAA1]

@path of matth - I’m not surprised that a streamer that makes several mirror tier items every league isn’t really bothered by these changes, but for the rest of us this manifesto is already pretty big. You need to realize the whole reason this manifesto isn’t a big deal to you is because you’re the player they’re balancing the game around, they aren’t balancing the game around us (40hr work week people that don’t want to come home and play POE for 4hrs every single day after work). Sentinel league was my most rewarding league but it was the most stressful, time consuming league I’ve ever played in this game. And what did most people end up doing this league? Farm 100% deli crimson temple maps over and over and over again for apothecary cards. That’s it. If Ashes of the Stars doesn’t have its drop rate increased then this league is DOA. This game should not be balanced around content creators.

[@pathofmatth]

what? you're completely wrong about that. they balance the game around the top 20%, not the top 1% and not the casuals either. It's completely normal to have items which are chase items in an ARPG man... ARPGs are about playing the game to kill monsters to find loot to be able to kill monsters faster (or harder monsters) to get more loot... that's literally the goal of an ARPG... Imagine if GGG just gave you a Headhunter on the first day of a league, where's the fun in that? Games like PoE are about the journey, if you don't enjoy the journey to whatever goal you set for yourself, then quite frankly, ARPGs are probably not the time of game you should be playing.

[@pathofmatth]

Not to mention that I did two different "Zero to Hero" series this league where in both cases I started with a single exalt to build a complete character AND purchase mapping supplies and was able to make 100 ex in around 12-15 hours in both attempts, using a stategy which could be replicated by literally anyone with a build worth a single exalt. There's no reason not to be able to make currency to buy whatever item you want or need unless you basically aren't even "playing the game" in a "proper" way, of course there's no wrong way to play the game but clearly there are some things which are better than others when your goal is to make currency for example

[@TOGGGAA1]

@@pathofmatth A headhunter on day one? That is a complete overreaction to what I said, and not even a reasonable one. In a league where mana efficiency is going to be an issue for most players, Ashes of the Stars is going to be even more expensive then it was this league. It’s drop rates were higher in 3.17 which made it much more affordable. So I’m not sure how you think me asking for drop rates of Ashes to be increased equates to wanting a Headhunter on day one. Secondly, you telling me ARPGs are “not the type of game I should be playing” because you disagree with what I say is pretty childish lol. I think most of the player base would agree that you have to put more time into this game than ever before. How many hours would you say you put into this league total between play time, streaming, and content creation? All to farm for characters, currency, and items that don’t matter in 3 months. The fact that I don’t enjoy grinding in a game that I have several hundred hours in already, just to have all that time and effort reset and not matter every 3 months, doesn’t mean ARPGs “are not the type of game I should be playing”.

[@pathofmatth]

​@@TOGGGAA1 I mean.... you could consider playing standard, where everything is permanent, sure you won't have access to the brand new toys every 3 months but you also will always keep your progression, and it's a complete myth that standard is "dead". Matter of fact I get trade messages for standard items more than for league items past the first month of a league. It's a possible solution. And also, Ashes price will dictate the invitation price since it's a 2% drop rate anyways, which means no matter how expensive it is, if you sell the invitations you will be able to afford ashes at the same rate than before. We also need to consider that Omni is getting nerfed so perhaps most people will farm for the blue invitation and there might be an over-saturation of people farming the blue invitation which could lead to prices of ashes not even going up all that much too.

[@puddlebutt271]

Lmao don't listen to these clowns really MFS ur going to shame him for making a video and essentially doing his job to get by? Grow the fuck up and quit bitching about a video game if you don't like it don't play it

[@alendelon4384]

anyone have problem with oil maps, i mean, there is lagg and crash, probably my machine leaking of ram (8gb current) ...

[@pathofmatth]

that's possible tbh, PoE is a game known for memory leaking and eating a lot of RAM... normally restarting the game every couple hours fixes that tbh

[@209Richsta]

Generally I don't mind nerfs but I really dislike the 15% mana reserve on the mastery. As a console player the prices can be expensive on things like lvl 5 Enlighten. It feels like now to make up the 15% mana reserve we need to rely on corrupted jewels, and mana multiplier corruption on helm + lvl4-5 Enlighten. Keep up the videos and fuck the haters. Most are casuals who don't even make it to endgame lol.

[@johnc8695]

very curious is chainbreaker is dead now? will there just be other ways added to the game to regen rage.

[@pathofmatth]

nah it's completely fine, it was just changed from % based to flat base, that's all

[@meerrettich2787]

Hey PoM,i wanted to ask for a Long Time. Last League you spoken about an elemental trapper. Did you ever make a build Guide for it and i Just missed it? (I saw the Other comment with also Not getting notifications, damn you KZbin! ) Anyway, keep Up the great content and stay awesome.

[@pathofmatth]

yup this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpbQnqyCgN2DjtE I'll be remaking a league start version of it if it survives anyways

[@meerrettich2787]

@@pathofmatth Hey Mat, thanks for the quick answer. Will check it out and am excited for a league start version. Never tried traps so I am looking forward to it.

[@timati78rus]

Thanks!

[@captainfeish6028]

Golems will be fine it was already about as strong on elementalist as necro and new rare minion items could be strong also stone golem and carrion were the only ones not buffed.

[@nathanfishermen2953]

Feels like you have to take more defensive auras this league, and are obliged to swap damage for def due to RVR and defiance banner nerfs or u go damage through the roof

[@4X10S]

The swap in defence meta happened solely because GGG wanted it and allowed us to easily access it. What you'll have now is going back to good ol glasscannon bs to kill before you get killed and abandoning all defences as they become more and more inferior. Chris doesn't know wtf he wants so players will have to adapt and GC strat is probably the most braindead path to follow.

[@geralddelbert2988]

Maybe there is new defends skill gem , so they nerf defends existing skill gem

[@Efgand0894]

These changes hurt casual players like me. Some of us don't have the time, and therefore currency to INVEST in our builds.

[@pathofmatth]

how so? I don't think any of these changes really effect ANYONE, except for minion builds, in a dramatic fashion tbh... it's all pretty minor stuff AND this doesn't include patch notes which might make up for a lot of these changes in the first place...

[@charliemongi7298]

@Federico Gandara i fell you man most of my builds is 100% affected especially minions. I can only play about an hour per day this ppl have no idea how lucky they are if they can play 8hr+ a day.

[@pathofmatth]

@@charliemongi7298 I don't understand, what does having 1 hour per day or 8 hour pay day change? If they change something, it affects everyone the same way?

[@charliemongi7298]

@@pathofmatth i dont understand you either. It is clearly affecting casual players we play builds that is easy to farm with a limited time resource and now we have to invest more time in order to play our builds which is a no go for some of us.

[@soshspotgames4380]

@@pathofmatth yo Path, I'm a fan of yours man but this is like the 2nd or 3rd time you've had a pretty tone-deaf response to the reality of nerfs affecting casual players more than hardcore players. This is really a known byproduct in like every game at this point. Obviously, people who play a game for more hours every day make more progress faster, thus scaling their build faster, thus cashing in on the early league currency fiesta easier/faster...add in to that most players aren't at your level of skill or knowledge of the game and of course nerfs will affect casual (read: less skilled) players, more than they will you. Like dude. You're too smart for such a dense response. It's not like it's your fault for being good at the game, and I'm not saying the game should be catered to less-skilled, more casual players. Just pointing out that nerfs like this have an obvious side effect. Builds that were easier and required less investment were what most casual players flocked to since those builds enabled them to progress through the game at a reasonable (although still slow) pace. Every time one of these easily accessible or affordable builds gets nerfed, the casual playerbase that relied on those builds in order to progress are now left in a pickle: They either skip the league altogether; The try some other league start build and hope to god that it can get them to maps as smoothly as their previous builds; or they ram their heads against the steel wall of PoE's unforgiving mechanics, ever-increasing number of insta-kill mob abilities and the IRL reality that they have an incredibly limited amount of time to play. I honestly can't believe this needs to be explained to you.

[@Arrythmic798]

Yeah, I think it's a good thing I quit already, not looking worth it to come back

[@Vlad34011]

Hi Matth. Anomalous CoD nerf crit chance from 100% to 10%, I thinks that huge damage nerf? No longer viable?

[@pathofmatth]

nah you just need to invest into crit on the build, it's still viable for sure

[@Vlad34011]

Oh, thanks

[@mazzen14]

Omni went from needing 1350 to needing 2025. Not impossible, but still a lot less than 2200.

[@pathofmatth]

I mean for most people it just means you have to go with black sun crest helm, that helm alone was taking my build from like 1.4k to 2k+ sucks to lose the QoL from asenath's

[@mazzen14]

@@pathofmatth Yes that's possible, but without an eldritch implicit it'll be hard to fit in the same amount of auras as before. But I agree the item doesn't seem dead, but for most players you'll have to invest into about 75 all res to be capped compared to now.

[@atrohost3093]

Pls tell me - explosive arrow nerfed?

[@kirasaki1987]

still fine

[@archetypical1694]

Palsteron did some maths on it, and came to the conclusion that mapping will stay about the same, because the amount of fuses you have on an enemy would always be variable. While on the other hand, bossing damage will be cut by roughly 20%. Still fine like Battosa said, for having a comfy playstyle.

[@leifybear2286]

Would the duration nerfs to the trap support gems also affect poison duration? If so then poison seismic might be dead.

[@pathofmatth]

poison seismic is perfectly fine, the duration doesn't affect the duration of poison, that's it's own stat. even for non-poison that nerf isn't that big of a deal at all I'm expecting further nerfs to seismic in the patch notes tbh though

[@syph5487]

Thank you for not just shitting on every minion build player off the rip like most of the content creators.

[@Habib_Osman]

shitting on minion build players? Don't think I've ever heard that. It would also be untrue. Pure minion builds are a rare sight in ssfhc. Only necromancers are detonate dead. Playing minions in ssfhc is way more challenging than playing EA totem, DD or seismic trap.

[@FreeStyleProjector]

GGG shat on them plenty ... don't you think ? :D

[@syph5487]

@@FreeStyleProjector lolol

[@derekmueller6685]

more changes that will cause more builds to be less played besides the 5-10 meta builds... i just dont get it done till poe 2

[@pathofmatth]

The point of this was actually the opposite ... the builds targetted by these changes are the 5-10 meta builds you are alluding to. seismic, skelemages, omni, aurastackers, wardloop, explosive arrow, etc. All builds which have been the META in the last few leagues, all getting nerfed in some capacity. Some nerfs were more universal like the losing of the 15% RMR mastery, but if it affects everyone, it affects nobody basically.

[@derekmueller6685]

@@pathofmatth I was more meaning the changes with like defiance banner and spell suppression. Dont get me wrong im not a pro or nothing but i hate dying and the meta builds to me are meta because they do tons of damage and have good survivability. Wont these changes make non meta builds even more unplayable with less damage and now even less survivability? specially with the AN mods

[@kakawett8362]

Blazing salvo miner better than ever

[@birdog23]

The mana reservation mastery being removed is so ass

[@pathofmatth]

I agree, that's one of the change that leaves me wondering... why...

[@peynir33]

As a minion player I'm super excited for 3.19 Lost Ark league!

[@pathofmatth]

there's still some really solid minion builds, it just means you won't be playing the same minion build you've been playing for the last 71 leagues... is it really a bad thing?

[@DeonixChannel]

@@pathofmatth They are never satisfied. Meta changes - bad, meta does not change - bad, meta changes a little bit - bad.

[@peynir33]

@@DeonixChannel take a joke m8

[@peynir33]

My comment aged like FUCKING WINE

[@Franek_Kimono666]

Cool league. If you have Mageblood you are fine, if not then sorry buddy.

[@pathofmatth]

It's pretty amazing that people watch a video which talks about like 20 different things and then somehow come up with that conclusion. Keep it on reddit bro, not my comment section :)

[@trackts]

The "minor" stuff makes me chuckle. I lack maturity.

[@Dx_Ach]

hype is completely dead for the league

[@doziergames]

yes, everything is "fine" but this will be 3 leagues in a row now with very little changes to the meta. That makes players quit more than Chris's idea of the game "being too easy".

[@pathofmatth]

not at all, this is just the manifesto... we have no idea about the new skills coming or even the new uniques, the numerical changes... we literally don't know anything yet lol

[@doziergames]

@@pathofmatth Majority of the player base don't use the new skills or unique's that come out the same league anyways. They are usually tuned wrong and/or people don't know how to build with them. It takes months for content creators to make an end game viable build for them. I'm really holding out for the patch notes like everyone else but I can't get my hopes up.

[@dimitarangelkovski9877]

Ice trap gang

[@ProfWollhoven]

I don't know why but starting with the Patch that removed ailment immunity for elementalists, this game gets less and less attractive every new league.

[@adeirfanwahyudin2215]

You know math? Flask nerf is nerfing PlayStation player

[@Yotarnn]

They're nerfing everything but are they nerfing all the broken ass mobs? No? Not coming back this season. See y'all in poe 2 probably

[@Mineral4r7s]

What is this PoE 2 meme. You guys realize all these changes are made to prepare for PoE 2 right? PoE 2 is not a new game its just a fancy name for a big major expansion.

[@pathofmatth]

The mobs aren't that broken, they've been nerfed like 4x already and a couple weeks ago I made a new char on a new account to test out how it feels and sure there's some mobs you'll encounter which have some pretty nasty combos, especially for example with essences or "special" monsters but it was pretty rare, more often than not it felt no different than prior to the archnemesis mods being added to the core game (and btw they did say that some of those were getting changed in 3.19 as well)

[@Gid-J]

English may not be your first language, or perhaps you had bad teachers, but the title should be, "Not Many Changes". "Changes" is plural so you use the word "many". Much is used for non-plural. For example, "There is not much water in that puddle" and "There are many liters of water in this tank".

[@pathofmatth]

Depends how you say it actually. I didn't write that in a context of how many changes, I wrote it in the context of "not much" being the focal point. Anyone ever ask you what's going on and you say "not much"? Or do you say "not many"? You'd sound pretty damn stupid answering "not many" if someone asked you what's going on, wouldn't you?

[@lunatikhd6304]

sad where the game is going only for 1% of players. skipping for sure

[@SilentButDudley]

Just... not a lot of enticing buffs. It’s the same league as the past two we have had, except with even less options. Would have been much more into it if there were far more buffs to underutilized or weak mechanics in the game. Just not excited, and probably playing for 2 weeks before bailing.

[@pathofmatth]

patch notes should take care of that if GGG actually wants people to play their game xD

[@lenandov]

Still unconfirmed but I heard the new Trickster will have access to minions that are same power as Necromancer. Also. The items that you traded for in the past have continued to lose value.

[@pathofmatth]

the items that I traded for in the past? what are you talking about?

[@Rin91234]

POE 3.19 sounds the same as 3.15 and what happened to that league? most players drop the league. TY GG FOR SHIT ON YOUR PLAYERS.

[@absats]

This is the point where 30% of solo player's will quit. Like me, it's time to make a child and enjoy real life with out years if nerfing. Path of Nerfing 9.99 continue

[@pathofmatth]

Alright man, have a good one o/ I don't quite understand where you're getting this 30% figure from but hey, let's roll with it.

[@jaumsilveira]

RIP 3.19 DEAD LEAGUE XD

[@pathofmatth]

Nah I disagree, the manifesto didn't rlly "kill" anything except minions, but even then some minions builds like soulwrest or SRS still seem like solid starters

[@REIwAlexY]

agreed. when nerf almost everything and not replace with fun/new toys, just leaves you feeling like u playing same thing but less fun.

[@zikjegaming6652]

Maybe for you. But if you’re not gonna play, how would you even tell…

[@maraush]

Thank you for taking a measured approach to your review of the manifesto. We don't have the patch notes yet, don't know the league mechanic, and people are already saying that the sky is falling. I feel bad for the staff at GGG as they have had to deal with the constant flow of negativity from the community over the past few years.

[@maraush]

@@Habib_Osman This is true, but it's not time for people to panic quite yet. There's a decent chance that some of the support gems that work with seismic trap are also nerfed (the classic GGG double/triple tap). At the end of the day, I'm ready for a new meta and excited to see what emerges as the "new OP" build that people are striving for.

[@maraush]

@@Habib_Osman Patch notes are here. Seismic trap damage nerfed 30% at all levels. Advanced traps no longer has 10--29% increased skill effect duration. Impossible to get same levels of trap cooldown on tree. So to clarify - the skill itself got nerfed. The support gems it uses got nerfed. The nodes it uses on the tree got nerfed. AKA "The GGG triple tap" that I talked about in my previous comment. Seismic trap *might* still be playable, but I don't think it's going to be the dominant skill anymore.

[@Habib_Osman]

@@maraush I was too quick! Despite not agreeing with all changes, I think GGG changed and improved enough for the next league to feel new. I should not have doubted them!

[@Antonaqua]

Hydrosphere nerf isn't that bad on arakaali since it could only get hit every second, so you lose 1 attack per second and with 4~ attacks per second, you're only losing 20% dps.

[@JbHomestead]

Umm it can only be hit by the entity that cast it. Your spider no longer able to hit it. So it’s not just 20% xp lost.

[@Antonaqua]

@@JbHomestead pre-balance manifesto it's once per second, as in if you go in game right this moment

[@simplymanneh3477]

I don´t think minion builds will be in such a bad spot. We are getting rings and shields that can roll minion modifiers. It will of course depend on which modifier are available and what the values will be. Skelemages seems to get a hard hit, but if a large part of the lost damage can be regained with the new gear, I might give it another try.

[@dimitarangelkovski9877]

But now you are having to sacrifice defensive crafts on gear.. on something that usually doesnt have much of a defense unless it's gear

[@pathofmatth]

there's going to be a lot of opportunity cost to make up the damage loss, but again we don't really know for sure until we have the actual patch notes... so for now it's pretty much just waiting to see what happens

[@brianwilliams1588]

The only balance was making more builds equally unplayable. I won't be playing this league and I'm about to uninstall... "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" - GGG

[@zanofirenze]

See you Friday

[@patrickvilela1041]

Every league they keep nerfing and nerfing stuff instead of buffing other things that are just not playable and make more viable builds, this just kills my desire for POE each new league, I skipped a few leagues and came back with the shit Archnemesis fiasco in sentinel league and now I guess ill skip again

[@pathofmatth]

I'd wait for patch notes, manifestos are always about nerfs, it doesn't mean nothing is getting buffed my dude

[@patrickvilela1041]

@@pathofmatth So they did exactly what i expected and even worst, cant even give GGG the benefit of the doubt anymore.

[@dylanreedy6839]

I guess I don't understand the "RIP Minions" reaction. They explicitly stated there will be new items to provide scaling for minions, and we don't know how good those will be yet. Minion builds also basically gain an entire helm from this patch - previously you had to do a pseudo-6L helm with +3L, now you can do +2 all levels and "the rest of the helm", which will can be covered in other global minion buffs or stats for the summoner. Interpreting all of this as "RIP Minions", especially before we know anything about the items designed to mitigate the damage losses described in the manifesto, is pretty reactionary

[@Mageblood]

A +2 helm corruption while removing the +2 from ascendancy... Getting lucky on your helm corrupt will bring you back to baseline (not counting the fact that the minions raised have a lower ilvl now too)

[@a9ag]

They also suffer from the nerfs to defiance banner and reservation for auras which may end up having quite an impact on survivability etc along with the changes to how their charges work and overall hp of the minions. Having to resummon something like a zombie or carrion golem at a fairly high mana cost regularly feels really bad to play when that's kind of what I'm trying to avoid while playing minions. I don't think minions will be dead by any means, I think they will be severely lacking in power early-mid game comparative to before and still have a fairly good time in end game when you've got the goods together. Nerf feels a little overkill considering a lot of minion builds weren't even that great and only skelemages were top tier.