Path Tracing in Old Games with RTX Remix - The Ultimate Graphics/Performance Comparison | RTX 4080

[@MxBenchmarkPC]

Please give this video a thumbs up if you liked it and feel free to comment below or ask me anything. It will help me to get recognized by youtube's algorithm. Thanks! :) Timecodes: ○ 0:00 - GTA San Andreas ○ 1:54 - Need For Speed Underground 2 ○ 3:47 - Need For Speed Underground 1 ○ 5:41 - Need For Speed Most Wanted ○ 7:33 - Max Payne ○ 9:28 - Portal 2 ○ 12:00 - Half-Life Path Tracing Mod (bonus comparison, not actual RTX Remix project)

[@wintlink]

this is not just path racing, it an entire rtx remix of the game, with some texture being so much better

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

7:50 Bruh!!! 1378 FPS down to 60 is Diabolically Insane!!! I see the difference but a 96% Drop in FPS seems absolutely Crazy!

[@balemdl866]

Why exactly do you need hundreds of fps? Is it really worth it over the completely overhauled path tracing mode that runs at pretty standard stable 60 fps?

[@starbez]

What's the point of 1000+ FPS? 144 is more than enough for single-player games using upscaling and fg

[@CuttinInIdaho]

Playing the original at 30 fps in 4:3 lol and no one complains. Play full path tracing in 4K and heads explode!

[@samurai-operative8017]

@@starbez If 1000 Hz display comes out, playing at 1000 fps you will get insane motion clarity (like backlight strobing, but without flickering) and the same insane smoothness. 144 fps is not peak smoothness, with enough speed the pixel shift will still be pretty big.

[@ImperialDiecast]

@@starbez thats not the point. the point is in games like cyberpunk, PT drops performance by half compared to normal rasterization. it should never be 95%

[@ReachTea2]

I do wish an actual artist went in and touched up the games as opposed to modders; who don't know how to make things look "right", materials are often too reflective or too matte, most of the time it takes away from the actual games original aesthetic or visual character, overall very impressive though, RTX Remix has a bright future, hope to see more old games

[@zonea4860]

Exactly! I had the same though. Obviously the people that worked on most of these mods don't even know how a proper PBR material should look like and how to make a realistic one. I think most of the creators of these mods used the default options and the crappy AI texture upscalers and generators that remix provides. If there was any real 3D artist working on these, the games would look so much better. That's why you just can't replace real artists with some bs AI (and I'm saying this from a point of view of a programmer)

[@ballinbulgruuf5920]

Everyone who talks about the drop in fps forgets that Path Tracing is a technology that used to take tens of hours to render a single frame on powerful workstations and was used exclusively in the film industry. It is incredible that now you can use this technology to render 60 frames in one second.

[@imadelachiri5475]

This is still not true path tracing, it's an approximation

[@Vladx35]

FPS drops harder than a stock market crash, but wow, the realistic lighting/shadows make even old games look great. Another great video.

[@doodlebob1144]

The technology is pretty cool but it completly destroys the original lighting and the mood of the scene which the artists had originaly intended.

[@freefloydfreefloyd6176]

With exclusive -80% of FPS on your screen,you can finally admire those brilliant effects on mere 40 fps in game that was released more than 10 years ago !

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

The look is a drastic change for sure. But Gotdamn that FPS Drop his harder than Prime Mike Tyson.

[@guillermojperea6355]

Excellent video!!!

[@MxBenchmarkPC]

Thanks!

[@zonea4860]

It's worth noting that this Half Life mod is **not** an RTX Remix mod. This Half Life mod was created before RTX Remix was even a thing and it modifies the entire engine to work woth ray tracing. RTX Remix is just a kind of wrapper that-you could say-paints the ray tracing on top of the game (this is a massive oversimplification, but the best explanation I could find in my head) instead of modifying the actual game. That method has both its cons and pros, but I think that an actual modification of the entire engine will always be better, because then the ray tracing is in the core of the game and isn't just painted over the game. Also if I'm not mistaken the person that created this Half Life mod also created similar mods for Quake 1 and Doom. That was possible because both Quake and Doom engines are open source now

[@AddlerMartin]

0:54 oh yeah, have a 95% loss in FPS for some cool lighting

[@vlada909]

tbf san andreas is unplayable over 30 fps because a lot of game mechanics are bound to fps, so in this situation it's not that bad

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

bruhh try playing at 1000FPS in these old games with broken physics. Enjoy 100% FPS and old lighting

[@johnconnor5124]

a huge thanks to Sultim_t for his Ray Traced HL\Doom\Quake\Serious Sam mods, made replay the classics and even finish Q1 for the first time

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

Kinda wish this worked in Emulators tho and it would be really cool if they added a way to Dial in the Strength of the Effect.

[@NootNoot.]

I think the original stalker with RTX Remix would be pretty cool.

[@MxBenchmarkPC]

I've tried it, the compatibility is very bad unfortunately.

[@NootNoot.]

@@MxBenchmarkPC Oh, didn't know it existed haha. Maybe in the future, and perhaps with a 5090 lol

[@yevheniibatiievskyi]

12:33 - 1117 fps vs 82 fps... that's insane

[@Meenousemusic]

The PT ones are also new textures, new assets and new (poorly placed) light sources.

[@MelvinGundlach]

2:27 Reflections in the original are much better than the current Remix situation. This has a long way to go.

[@harold5446]

No, How can the road surface be so shiny?

[@zonea4860]

That's not because of remix, but because of the modder that made this mod. If there was any real 3D artist working on this who knows how to work with PBR materials it would look a LOT better. They probably didn't have any good artistis in their team and just used the default options and the crappy ai upscaler for the textures. If you worked on game graphics before you can easily see for example that some of the neon materials and stuff that should emit light don't even have an emission map or even if it has one it's adjusted improperly

[@crestofhonor2349]

Much of this is down to the modders and how they remake the textures. Some look nice but some have pretty poor choices for textures and materials. It's a mixed bag and honestly for some of these I'd rather have the original textures with materials that reflect what the original was going for or very clever recreations of these textures that don't completely look off. Lighting is great though

[@vishwapremarathne]

Funny thing is this is how I actually rememberd the games back then

[@MxBenchmarkPC]

Relatable 😂

[@modrribaz1691]

8:56 is insane

[@igorrafael7429]

imo the old games look better on their own... path tracing adds some weird sharpening filter + noise + blur that simply doesnt fit all games, even a modern ones, let alone the oldest ones...

[@TheBeleon]

Cyberpunk ost fits pretty well

[@maurojacskomasqiter5763]

Do undervolting of your 4080 to 2550MHz@900mV. FPS won't drop especially, but power consumption will.

[@adrianogil]

How can I install rtx remix with this mod on Most Wanted?

[@wolfdragox5563]

This makes me think that perphaps we're too hard on official path tracing, the performance hit is bigger than in any recent game that's way more demanding even without any kind of rt

[@UNMERILLY]

beside the lowered frames, most of them looks worse with a butchered art style, only Half Life and Portal looks actually good

[@LordAlacorn]

0:40 and 0:45 - wow, removed cube maps and made it look like shit

[@ALLInOne-vq5em]

This is great, but the performance hit is insane. It's still kind of a prototype thing. Need time, and who knows, perhaps one day it can be one of the reasons to buy a GPU.

[@-Rizecek-]

Okey so you need RTX 6090 for 25 years old games

[@lukasgroot]

Wow amazing. I dont really like it in the GTA SA and NFS Undergrounds though, I like the original not so realistic art style more, its more part of their identity to me. But in the other games I think it looks great even Half Life. 😎👍

[@mccorde1460]

Max Payne became Alan Wake

[@00Resev]

Considering both games were made by Remedy, its fair. 😀

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

Both still star Sam Lake

[@Txukie]

How to run a 20 year old game under 60 fps with a $1000+ graphics card

[@danilob766]

It's actually RTX Remix ON Vs OFF, path tracing alone can't obviously do this.

[@ElioED]

The change is tremendous but how performance drops is crazy. Saludos de Argentina

[@andyshtroymish4997]

Immence retexturing like this could help you achieve similar results without PT, on regular parallax. Btw nice game 20-45 frames on 4080 instead of 200+😂

[@Daniel.AJ.R]

Amazing videos and portal 25 fps unplayable but the looks

[@MxBenchmarkPC]

With Frame Generation it's perfectly playable.

[@SandyBay9]

In Max Payne this shit cuts FPS in more than 10 times. In my opinion this technology is stupid with terrible efficiency if to compare with modern games that support Path Tracing natively.

[@OmnianMIU]

I disagree. To me Path Tracing is worth to enabled for realism and i don't give a f to have 1000fps for kids. Better to have 40/60fps with realism

[@penumbrum3135]

Just shows how much of a bottleneck the RT hardware on the GPU is. Will be interesting to see how much of an uplift this workload will get with the 5000 series.

[@paddington2063]

Wont be saying this in 10 years when the gpu power floor is much higher though. Greta tech, but def barely usable, but neither were older games with added RTX ie. Portal RTX, Minecraft RTX etc. when they came out.

[@DTunezOfficial]

Dude its a mod

[@FindingMorons]

@@OmnianMIUfps over anything anytime anyday . 1080 p ? Cool 200-300 fps . Who cares about realism f that

[@ensarakkaya0]

How to do it

[@TurboLight]

Look at the projects in the description

[@IHaveBadWiFiBro]

yeah no thanks

[@OmnianMIU]

To me? Yes, Path Tracing is worth to enabled and lost huge performance! A game in Path Tracing is something different to me! I have a question: did you use DLSS here?

[@MxBenchmarkPC]

Yes, DLSS was enabled in all games.

[@freshevo]

It's so funny that path tracing is how my kid brain remembers these games

[@MxBenchmarkPC]

Relatable 😂

[@rezaghasemi7651]

textures dont change with rT

[@TurboLight]

You can replace them with RTX Remix

[@Angelo0chek]

Бредятина. Вы добавляйте только трассировку, а не все подряд. Тут и текстуры другие, и модельки, и все остальное в комплексе.

[@gurkamalsingh1545]

the only thing left is textures... rest its insane.. so is the performance

[@DTunezOfficial]

You can edit textures in rtx remix and replace it with pbt materials

[@imadelachiri5475]

Gta SA looks worse

[@felixromanchenko]

Max Payne is the only game that looks good

[@TurboLight]

Half Life looks great too