PATHETIQUE SONATA TUTORIAL (first movement)

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[@planetyam6044]

"independently of the time you choose, you must have everything on time. So, in this case, count until 8: 1,2,3,4,tadatadatadatada" every pianist ever.

[@purple_sky]

The Grave section definitely sounds waaay cooler with rubato

[@fabiomangone9789]

Yes, the rubato creates more movement but not much to rovine the tempo

[@user1197]

This is really incredible! I’ve been attempting to play this piece for about 5 years, and by watching this video it’s just solved all my issues with the rhythm, which has always been a difficulty for me. I can play mov.2 but always been scared to really attempt to break mov.1 down - so thanks so much for your brilliant guide!

[@elwafi2001]

Wow that’s amazing, very very good job! Thanks

[@yiusaumuiivy3682]

Excellent lesson! Thank you so much!

[@franzstevens4230]

This tutorial is absolutely fantastic! I just learned so much, in just fifteen minutes. Thank you!!

[@Maria-sz3ph]

Gracias por la paciencia al explicar

[@daphnema9154]

Thank you very much for your lesson. It is very helpful. Can you please do a lesson on Tempest 3rd movement?

[@csandusky87]

Excellent lesson! Thank you for the historical interpretation and explanations.

[@user-pt9jw6ib4h]

Thank you very very much for this, and all of your uploads. They really help a lot! Keep up the good work!

[@joestephens7105]

Thanks! A bunch of great ideas that is going to shortcut my efforts in learning this 1st movement.

[@joc3372]

Thanks for uploading, it's very helpful.

[@hillrob5917]

Great job. Thanks

[@qontroL]

I've only been playing piano for 3 years and I want to take a bit a plunge so Imma have a go at this one xd Thank you for the extra pointers!

[@angelonucellese1411]

Finally i' doing the 1st mov... 😁Thanks for lesson.. And suggests

[@juliana76310]

Ooooh at 10:10 when you show to switch to the left hand is really useful to me. I used to play this song really well so watching this tutorial is super helpful to refresh and teach me new things I did not consider when I used to be pretty good at this song. Doing it all with the right hand used to stress me out so much haha, when I would play it at a high tempo it was either hit or miss. Now... I guess I'll never miss!!

[@weterr123]

It's funny cos I have always had the left hand pick up those notes, but always found it hard to get then to flow nice, ie, you could tell I let the left hand stay there for those notes. Revisiting this piece years later, and now I'm trying to not let the left hand stay there for those few notes. Easy slow but playing at speed and I go back to old habits lol

[@melmelsmusicstudio1800]

Thank you very much!

[@angelonucellese1411]

Thanks, thamks and thanks again👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@thelogicalflamingo]

“this is from the baroque period”

[@alered1098]

Even being Mexican and speaking Spanish (and English of course) I can understand the most part as you tell, thank you! Greetings from Mexico City

[@agustinbaldomerolopez4934]

No mames we

[@InvestingForTomorrow24]

Excellent analysis and many clues I've missed playing this piece since memorizing in '93. Appassionata needs work too!

[@surgeeo1406]

I think the early pianos Beethoven played had a brighter sound. The fact you keep trying to compensate for a duller sound, by holding more notes down, both shows that you are well aware of the spirit of this piece, and that the tone of the modern piano really could be better... Chopin said the Tempo is the soul of music, and Beethoven reportedly was metronome-steady. Very good advice you give.

[@tamtam6172]

thank you very much!!

[@modernmozart813]

Excellent 👍🏻👍🏻

[@fernandocavagna3785]

gracias

[@andreaschultz5907]

There are good tipps in there for me practizing this sonata- thank you :-) !

[@RaindropServicesNYC]

Fantastic! I like your videos a lot.

[@militaryandemergencyservic3286]

great tutorial! thanks! do you teach the other 2 mvmnts?

[@PeacefulAmphibian]

Hello i am a pianist with a year of experience and am trying to play this piece. Id say im doing pretty well but idk. This tutorial was really helpful.👍

[@jbl_sn]

Thanks for sharing this tutorial!! I have a little doubt, about the first chord. The tempo should be counted 1, 2, 3, 4 or 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2 and a half? Thank you!

[@MasiukA]

Personally, I find this style robotic. It can sound serious and dark while still having some feel in it. I never play these pieces perfectly in time for this reason.

[@BurningSky9]

No composer, however 'strict' wouldn't want to hear a disingaged, mechanic interpretation like the one here. See professional pianists (Fischer, Barenboim, Schnabel, Richter and so many other) play this in time, but with microrubato and dinamics. And meaning! This is a misinterpreation of the classical period rigour by an amateur!

[@jessedennis7131]

Beethoven was more romantic than classical. So yes, I agree.

[@jessedennis7131]

I play this more in my own time, I mix it up in parts.

[@jessedennis7131]

MasA For the part that the left and right hands are. more dependent on each other I keep them together as needed.

[@ckl5590]

Kinda funny reading these comments. My son has played in scholastic competitions for ten years and Beethoven is a classical composer so solid tempos are expected with a very minimum of rubato. To read some of the comments here it would be interesting to hear their interpretations . He is properly teaching this piece. Beethoven is not Chopin.

[@elwafi2001]

Where is the other version of this 1 st movement the one with the sheet music. I couldn’t find it, did you delete! I would appreciate if you can share with me the link!

[@SergeantJoe4]

I dont understand why so many mainstream performances play the notes of the first 3 measures legato when they shoudn't. Thanks for communicating that for others. This way it is way more dramatic.

[@user-mv1rr7th5i]

Human Metronom

[@mchaelbarber7484]

I hope one day I'll begin to reach a standard to be able to understand and grasp everything this tutorial is giving...simply wonderful mastery of the piano. Thank you!

[@glendamitchell8776]

Please go over the metronome settings again with the various sections.

[@glendamitchell8776]

Mine is marked eigth note is 50......,too slow? Especially for the development section?

[@irislin831]

0:52

[@nfal445]

What type of metronome are you using? I bought a digital one that beeps and its annoying. I like the sound of the one you are using?

[@BachScholar]

It's a Zen-On Metrina Quartz Metronome (battery operated) from about 1982. I hate digital metronomes!!

[@nfal445]

Thanks, it was terrible even though it had great reviews.

[@philipmartin9652]

as a tempo, 'grave' is defined as 25-45 bpm, not 54 or 63.

[@BachScholar]

25 per large beat is the same as 50 the same speed but sub-divided. For example, if a half note is played at 25 bpm then the quarter note is 50 bpm. Therefore, 54 bpm is the same as 27 bpm.

[@philipmartin9652]

@@BachScholar I see what you mean, but it still sounds too fast when you play it (compared to the other renditions I've heard). Guess it's down to personal preference🤷‍♂️.

[@BachScholar]

It's always about personal preference. You can always view it both ways. Why is it necessarily that I play "fast" compared to others? It could also be that all others are slow compared to mine. There is no such thing as one correct tempo for everyone, just as there is no such thing as one food everyone loves. But that range you give, 25-45, is a very large range which is just an arbitrary range of numbers. Numbers are not music. Numbers are numbers. Where did that range come from, anyway?

[@philipmartin9652]

@@BachScholar Your interpretation of 'grave' is the quickest I've heard per crotchet, which is why I viewed it as I did - but that's not to say that it's wrong. The given range came from Wikipedia, and feels right to me when I play this piece, as well as being consistent with the likes of Barenboim's performances, but even there the values are given as a rough approximation: of course it's arbitrary.

[@BachScholar]

My crotchet speed I demonstrate here is about 31.5 (since the quaver speed is 63). This is right within the range you give. So then, what is the problem?

[@Youssef-iu8dn]

30:36 oops

[@katie4623]

Urgh i got to get my notes right first.

[@pianosongplayer]

I have a lot of problems because when I am trying to play it my version sounds really dirty as I tend to drag a lot of notes with the pedal :( , do you have any advise?

[@NovinaW]

Are you doing the staccato as crisp as the video? Maybe try that, It'll compensate for the drag with the pedal.

[@pianosongplayer]

@@NovinaW thanks for the advise, I will try it

[@stephenarnold3015]

Tovey and many others have strictly warned against letting the Pralltriller become flaccid triplets. This is one of the worst examples.