[Pathfinder 2e] How to pick a class - A Quick Look at All Classes in PF2

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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
0:55 [Combatants] Barbarian
1:21 Fighter
1:37 Ranger
2:24 Champion
2:56 [Strikers] Monk
3:40 Swashbuckler
3:59 Gunslinger
4:23 [Specialists] Alchemist
4:55 Investigator
5:31 Rogue
6:07 Inventor
6:36 [Spontaneous casters] Bard
7:29 Sorcerer
8:09 Psychic
9:03 Oracle
9:37 [Mages / Prepared Casters] Cleric
10:21 Druid
10:54 Wizard
11:25 Witch
11:57 [Advanced Classes] Magus
12:30 Summoner
12:56 Thaumaturge
13:24 Conclusion

[@Skipston55]

Important to note is that in PF2e, enemies having attack of opportunity are a rarity rather than the rule. As a monk, you can quite reliably dance across the battlefield and accomplish hit and run tactics if you wish to play that way.

[@sleepycandle2642]

pog

[@chukyuniqul]

Gotta ask tho, what about players? Can every class use their reaction to do attacks of opportunity? Cuz I really don't like asymmetrical rules. One of the most annoying things in divinity original sin 2 is how every enemy, even the most nebbish caster, has attack of opportunity but I need to sacrifice a perk slot to do so. I don't like the idea of everyone getting a free smack on the enemy's bum as they run away.

[@Skipston55]

@@chukyuniqul Attack of opportunity is given to Fighters for free, and is an optional feat other Martial classes can pick up around level 6 or 8. But not every martial will *want* to pick it up because depending on your build you can use your reaction to block an attack with your shield, parry an attack, chase after a fleeing foe, save your friend from a deadly crit, and a half dozen other things. Attack of Opportunity is useful, but there's just so much more to use your reaction on.

[@chukyuniqul]

@@Skipston55 honestly i've been spending this whole day looking into pf2e so as to run some sessions cuz it might just dissuade my mate from wasting her energy on making a new ttrpg system (she's only ever really played 5e and two homebrews, one by a dedicated game designer and another one for bite-sized comedy himbo shenanigans). Eother that or she'll have a better frame of reference. So, y'know, win-win. New favorite ttrpg or more knowledge.

[@Vernas_R]

Huh.. interesting considering how often I run into it.

[@OniNoSweeney]

".... you can also explode. Voluntarily." You have my attention!

[@JackdawLT]

Also that explosion doesn't need to be fire damage. It can be lightning, cold or acid if want.

[@TheBassManBoy]

Even after watching the video, I still can't get over the dude at the start was eating his dice.

[@spydere3392]

A true dice goblin

[@marti5420]

Oh cool, you must be new to tabletop games! I suggest green, green taste better.... Eat up mf'er

[@Sucullentbutter]

Its very tasty... a friend of mine said that.

[@munsterlandr1644]

wanted to get molds at one point just to make hard candy dice that i can bring to a game and eat the d20 if i roll a nat 1

[@FireLover7004]

My first character was a cat folk alchemist. His specialty was bomber, yet also helped with making elixirs for my team. (lack of designated support). I love Niko and would pick him back up in a heartbeat if given the chance.

[@willofthewinds3222]

Did he bear the sun, by any chance?

[@FireLover7004]

@@willofthewinds3222 I'm missing the reference. Sorry.

[@alexanderschmitt3429]

My kingmaker game had a kitsune alchemist bomber. I loved them.

[@willofthewinds3222]

@FireLover7004 The main character of a game called OneShot was a cat child named Niko, who had a light bulb which was the world's sun

[@FireLover7004]

@@willofthewinds3222 Now that I'm reminded of that master piece of a game do I realize the name connection. Sadly I never thought of that when playing him. But if given the chance he might of turned the sun into a bomb somehow. He did learn how to make demo charges though.

[@liamjensen9156]

One reason I love pathfinder is that while 5e characters feel very linear, with the biggest choice you make being your subclass, pathfinder characters feel like jenga towers that allow you to change out blocks for different ones you like better, with your race and class providing only the foundation of the tower, rather than a vast majority of it.

[@bohahn6936]

THE best comparison I’ve seen

[@zoruasnivy]

All of the options Ive struggled to fit into DnD just work in Pathfinder. I love how flexible it is and that it allows for lots of flavour without bending game rules or descriptions

[@sinistertwister686]

But does it mean that in Pathfinder it's easy to make a wrong choice, pull out an important piece and ruin whole tower? Since it's like jenga...

[@gentleshark9209]

​@@sinistertwister686 in PF2e, not really. Aside from very obvious things like not putting ability scores into your relevant and important abilities, you can do well with most types of characters. The system hinges a lot on teamwork, and that's more important than individual strengths or weaknesses.

[@NickStrife]

Illusion of choice....

[@bionicdragon5]

What I love about Pathfinder vs DND is how your character's race matters more. It's like a subclass in and of itself. In DND, you pick your race (or species I think they're calling it now) and you add some to your ability scores, subtract some, get a racial ability you'll use once and forget about, and probably get darkvision, because of course you do. And that's it. Most racial options have barely any impact on your character outside of RP. Meanwhile in Pathfinder, you could choose to be a goblin, and later get to play as a living meteorite that's IMMUNE TO FALL DAMAGE! You get new feats and abilities according to your race as you go, which can synergize and unlock new options later, AS WELL as all the customization options you get from your class and everything else! This shit blew my mind when I read it!

[@Zedrinbot]

when it comes to homebrew, it's also fantastic. The baseline ancestry is pretty lightweight, maybe 1-2 features at base, and then you use feats to add in the flavor and options that interest you. While you have to do a bit more work overall, cause you need to design feats for the major ancestry levels, it's WAY easier to balance things cause strong features just become later level feats.

[@OneBiasedOpinion]

FCB, in and of itself, is an amazing mechanic. Not sure if 2e has it, but 1e absolutely does.

[@Zedrinbot]

@@OneBiasedOpinion Back in 3.5, favored classes were more a penalty to try and control multiclassing, while PF1 turned them more into a slight buff instead which felt better. PF2 doesn't have them, nor does it really need them, but there are still occasionally some unique class interactions and options available to some ancestries. (E.g. a rock dwarf gets a bonus interaction with stone druid.)

[@OneBiasedOpinion]

@@Zedrinbot good to know!

[@StonedDragons]

@@Zedrinbot Found one such myself, frilled lizardfolk swashbuckler, frilled lizardfolk lets you stride up to them and inflict fear 2 which then activates your panache and the pain train starts rolling from there with the following attack, potentially your finisher leaving them flat footed or with some other fat penalty. Combine that with the intimidation feat line in the Marshal archetype and things get interesting.

[@MrPlab1780]

I'd love more in depth class reviews! Either way I love your work, here's to many years of more awesome content!

[@mackenziediaz8780]

I recently got a Pathfinder book. I stared at it for a few moments before promptly closing it. I could barely wrap my head around it! But this definitely gave me some motivation to get back in there. The Investigator is really appealing to me!!

[@rheawelsh4142]

If it helps most of the core book isn't actually needed for players! It's basically the 5e CRB and DMG combined

[@Zedrinbot]

All the rule and content elements are available on Archives of Nethys as well, for free, officially, so you have a database for perusing options. Really, the big things to adjust to from other systems are: the three action system, the 10 + or - crit system, and how important bonuses and teamwork becomes due to the crit system. It's definitely crunchier than 5e.

[@JohnRieping]

The Pathfinder 2e Beginner Box may be a less intimidating introduction to the game system. But keep in mind that you don't need to read most of the core rulebook to play - just the basic mechanics and how to make a new character. Then you can read only the class(es) that interest you.

[@mackenziediaz8780]

This is all really helpful!! Thank you all so much :D

[@sca.dash.chilling]

The coolest thing about pathfinder 2 that makes me want to try it out is that Intelligence is actually utilized more as a base stat for more than just a wizard or artificer

[@Zedrinbot]

that was the case in PF1 and 3.5 as well. The only stat in PF2 that doesn't have a prominent, universal multiple uses is Charisma, but for what uses it DOES have it's still really popular and commonly used.

[@Dezbood]

The rogue even has a subclass with the intelligence as a key ability score, and there’s another upcoming martial class called the Commander that also uses Int. This game is super satisfying and it keeps getting better

[@robertagren9360]

Rogue was created from failed wizards. They were only allowed to use dagger in the past. Rogue and wizard is this way close related to another.

[@spiritwaker9595]

My immediate thought upon seeing Ranger was "Monster Hunter time?" then realizing that "Yes, Monster Hunter time!" Plus, we haven't even touched on Archetypes. Being able to play a Lv 20 Fighter who also happens to be able to cast Lv 8 spells as a Wizard, or a Cleric of Gorum who is able to Rage like a Barbarian, is so much fun for theme builds.

[@spectralsheep]

Did he just kill a man and then talk to an empty room for 20 minutes?

[@Zedrinbot]

i don't have a problem you have a problem

[@BlueDavrial]

Magus has always been a fave of mine PF1 and it's even better in PF2. Would love to actually get a chance to play it sometime. I like how Magus and Witch are like the two different sides of the 5e Warlock. Magus is the martial limited caster with a spellbook, Witch is the caster with hexes and weird spells and a familiar

[@xandermcdonald8543]

Psychic finishes off the trifecta with a focus on powerful cantrips, I love all three of them

[@thornangel16]

The Witch and the Alchemist is what drew me into checking out Pathfinder 2e. The former especially. The idea of playing a good-aligned Witch Hazel from Looney Tunes really appeals to me.

[@77wolfblade]

Magus feels like red mage from the Final Fantasy games, specially 14.

[@RenoKyrie]

Pathfinder 2E Ranger DEFFINITLY feel like what i thought 5E Ranger was supposed to be Not fully commit to be Guardian to specific thing, more like freelancer Guardians lmao Either stop Outer entities from invading or Not make Animals or Humans go ape shit on each other

[@Telawin]

I've been curious about pathfinder but I've been really overwhelmed by all the stuff you need to do for character creation. so videos like this are a major help. thank you

[@bohahn6936]

Which class catches your eye? I personally haven’t played yet, but I have all the supplements. I really like Tinkerer or Thaumaturge.

[@Telawin]

@@bohahn6936 I think either the alchemist or maybe the psychic. both sound rather complex... but also really interesting in how they play

[@GoddessCynthia]

really refreshing to see a pathfinder 2e video be under 20 minutes, would love to see more!

[@starhalv2427]

My first character will be a psychic. F*ck it, we ball.

[@ursoanonimo8398]

My TTRPG party moved over to Pathfinder 2e after a long 2 year campaign playing on D&D 5e. On P2e I knew I wanted to create a martial character, but I wasn’t sure which. Then I went and made a Giant Mauler Barbarian. I have been enjoying the game well since.

[@lupin7743]

Just curious, after all this time do you have a preference on a system ? Our group is thinking of swapping over in the near future. Is 5e better at some things than the other and vice-versa, or is it way more one sided?

[@AmonHa01]

That video really is amazing. It brings a good chunk of information but not exaggerating in said information. It straight to the point. I love it! If possible, a video about Pathfinder 2e races would be interesting (either in the Core book, or the supplement ones).

[@monstergirl1310]

This was really helpful, as one of the horde making a switch from dnd 5e to Pathfinder 2e bite-sized info compilations like this with a bit of play experience and game history thrown in are perfect for building up confidence and actually getting a respectful handle on the new system I'm diving into. I'd love if you do more guides but if not, thanks a bunch for this one!

[@Gavin_Reads_Words]

This was a wonderful watch. Excellent brief breakdowns and a fun, engaging video all the while. Thanks! I feel a little more educated about PF2E now.

[@sungone]

Love the breakdown - very easy to digest! I'd happily send this to my players who are new to Pathfinder2e!

[@moooky52]

it makes me so happy seeing big creators making pf2e content banger video, keep it up

[@scrapyarddragon]

Haha, now you've gotten me wanting to actually look into trying to get into pathfinder since some of those were really neat. Thaumaturge especially.

[@JoseAngelC]

Awesome video, great content, and very thankful for having quality Pathfinder video creators. Thanks!

[@zoruathecunning5434]

This was simple enough for someone like myself who just bought the Pathfinder 2e set form humble bundle to get a grasp at this without feeling overwhelmed. Thank you.

[@silverlight6074]

This is a fantastic breakdown of the basics for all the current classes available in PF2, and I'm always here for this kinda stuff. I've been a long-time Pathfinder player, and was really excited for PF2 when the playtest material was announced. One of the biggest things I've loved about PF2--you briefly touched on it when talking about the Rogue's Racket--is the absurd build diversity. Individual classes have their specialties and focuses, but the individual classes have enough options built into them that you could have two party members pick the same class, but choose different specializations and fulfill different subroles within the party. You could do this to some degree in PF1 thanks to archetypes, but PF2 made it a central function of all the classes to be able to choose what specific aspects of your character's class is their personal forte, and I love it.

[@theosmiumnerd2209]

Love PF2E and all its classes. Of the ones I've played, I'd say Rogue and Magus are my favorites. Can't wait to try out Barbarian in a new upcoming campaign!

[@Jacob-gy6jl]

Welcome to Pathfinder, friend! Love the video, sound quality and music choice were both great!

[@Zedrinbot]

oh i've been here since the playtest lol earlier if you count playing PF1

[@Jacob-gy6jl]

@@Zedrinbot Lol then congrats on your first Pathfinder video?

[@skoomad]

Love the pathfinder 2e vids! I am a 5e player, but finding elaborate videos like this is a real hard challenge! Now I will be able to learn this system easier :D Thanks man, you've just got a new sub :)

[@rossrichards7386]

Great video! You summarized the classes in less than 15 minutes that i have spent months trying to understand.

[@alarkhar]

A note: "Arcane Trickster" is actually a completely separate Archetype that allows a caster - ANY caster - to overoptimize his spells, starting from cantrips and going up. It's incredibly good, but probably not for a rogue - but if you feel like giving the Thievery skill to your Wizard, Witch or Bard you're golden. But seriously, look it up - it's several layers of awesome.

[@Zedrinbot]

In PF1, arcane trickster was a prestige class that anyone could pick up, provided they had access to arcane spells and sneak attack die. In PF2, there is no "Arcane Trickster" archetype, in official, anyway, you might be looking at some 3rd party stuff. You might also be thinking of spell trickster. "Arcane Trickster" was renamed to "Eldritch Trickster" and made into a subclass option for rogue, but it's meant to be the same thing. 5e did something similar but gutted most of the things arcane trickster let you do.

[@alarkhar]

@@Zedrinbot Misnamed itt, sorry. It's "Spell trickster" and is in the Grand Bazaar book.

[@rowanbuck119]

I'm definitely saving this video for the next time I want to summarize the classes for new players, this was pretty darn good!

[@BasementMinions]

This was so incredibly well done! Definitely saving this to share with perspective players. As a forever GM the alchemist really calls to me as a jack of all trades. Using a familiar to mess with the action economy and playing as a healer sounds like a boatload of fun. Although Wizards thematic dedication to one school of magic also sounds like a blast. Then the fighters seemingly endless customization through feats would be so cool, and a champion's ability to protect their team and tank hits is badass. Lucky for me the monsters I get to pilot also do awesome things so it's like sampling a bunch of micro characters. Man I love this game :)

[@darkshell0139]

Thank you for the info, will show it to my friends who are interested in the system

[@CCartman69]

This is a great video, I'll probably be sharing this with my players when I run my first pf2e game.

[@squeethemog213]

This was so cool. Your Pathfinder vids are awesome 🤩

[@BlueAstrox]

Amazing video! Sums all the classes perfectly. Just a few corrections: Champion's Core Ability can be Strenght or Dexterity, while Magus Core Ability cannot be Intelligence (I know, weird), instead they also use Strenght or Dexterity.

[@joshuahicks7798]

This is absolutely amazing. This feels like a laid back jocrap video. Would love to see you get into more detail with this game. Been meaning to look into it

[@McFatson]

Amazing. I loved the cheeky little intro, and the way you sorted classes was interesting. Definitely gonna subscribe now. One minor disagreement is that I'd say Magus is more of a Dragon Ball class thanks to Z and Super relying so much on energy blasts.

[@Counttec]

I've played an Investigator and an Alchemist so far, enjoyed both, but it was a major learning curve to get into PF2e.

[@keithwiechart7744]

Thank you! Given the huge OGL fiasco, I’ve been heavily considering picking up Pathfinder. This couldn’t have come at a better time.

[@Braybray93]

Always been looking forward to content from you involving RPGs, glad that you're devoting that attention to Pathfinder 2nd Ed. Any particular iconic you like?

[@Zedrinbot]

I really only know Harsk by name, lol.

[@tdragonz2405]

Ty for a fantastic intro for Pathfinder 2e classes!

[@abel4542]

Excelent vídeo, definitely subbing to the channel, keep up the good work.

[@asterax101]

this is soooo helpful, thank you!!

[@jamesfisher9594]

Always like seeing videos about Pathfinder

[@maycontainviolence5587]

Thanks for the incredibly handy breakdown. 2E is the next ruleset I'm taking (one) of my groups into after their current D&D adventure.

[@giantmastersword]

Dragon summoner, mirror thaumaturge and bastard sword inventor are my three big stand-out favorites for being interesting as heck to both roleplay and fight with.

[@PureGoldNeverCorrodes]

I like the sound of building your own subclasses out of the equivalent of battlemaster manoeuvres and Eldritch invocations.

[@rheawelsh4142]

The best part is that because of the 3 action economy you get to use all the cool stuff you build into without having to expend a resource

[@concordiaharmony2302]

Honestly I'd love to see more Pathfinder videos in the future. I've always wanted to learn how to play.

[@kyleharder3654]

Great video, lots of wisdom here

[@Carbadonia]

Very helpful to someone like me who has always heard about Pathfinder through the grapevine since Critical Role started but hasn't actually played or really researched the system, a friend of mine from an old D&D campaign I was in last year came to me a couple months back with the offer of joining a future Pathfinder campaign he was planning, I'm not sure if I want to since the world and races are homebrew and I'd prefer to experience a more standard experience of a system first before one with lots of changes from things I can research, this video definitely helped me understand how the classes are different in Pathfinder and what is available to me should I choose to play in the future.

[@GURGLEGUY12345]

I'm _so_ glad they brought the Investigator back. It fits my primary character better than even I would've thought.

[@lrogersgaming4373]

Cool fun thing, 4 classes are in play test right now for upcoming books. The guardian is a damage reduction tank that can taunt and take hits for their allies. The commander is a military tactician that can call stratagems to give buffs and extra actions to allies. The exemplar is an offensive focused divine warrior that can imbue their equipment with a divine spark. Think Hercules and Maui. The animist is a shaman that gets access to both spontaneous and prepared spells.

[@JS-tl7jp]

Great video!😊

[@Jeromy1986]

This is EXACTLY the intro I've been hoping for. I wonder if you've got an intro to Golarion like this.

[@jonathanrussell8998]

The were-frog note on Barbarian, I appreciate that you picked best animal for that instinct. XD

[@chainsaw7638]

Useful guide!

[@georgewl]

I'd love to see a short summary of the ancestries unique to Pathfinder, there's some really interesting ones

[@ColonelEviscerator]

Where the boi go?

[@bionicdragon5]

Reduced to atoms.

[@Zedrinbot]

mmm tagsty

[@mokukiridashi]

Great summary

[@alice77416]

Thank god for this. I try looking up info on pathfinder and so much of it is just kinda boring essays. This is something I can watch!

[@derpfluidvariant0916]

This honestly comes closer to a character I played named Cold front, from what I've heard of races and classes for PF2E. He was a sorcerer/cleric of the storm, and a reflavored air genasi, where in game he was basically Cell but good guy and weather themed. Despite it being a bad idea damage wise, he didn't have a weapon until the very end, as he was cursed to only be able to fight with his own strength, same with actual armour. Eventually he got a legally distinct monado when we fought the final boss.

[@GMJoeGrey]

I've not played pathfinder yet. This is so helpful. I didn't understand really the theme of the classes besides the originals. Now I'm sure I'd pick either a druid, witch, or summoner. All for different reasons too.

[@APerson-ws4cw]

I love playing spellswords, so magus looks really good! What's nice though is just how many options there are for casting martials, or martial casters!

[@user-om6xn1lq1w]

After giving up on trying 2e a few years ago because my group is too locked on 1e, you now have reignited my passion for it. Thank you.

[@lilbirdmuse8938]

My favs are the alchemist and summoner. I just love their versatility. My fetching shadow summoner (race archetype) was a blast having my shadow be my Eidolon in 1e. It’s also great that theyve more or less moved most of their races/classes (ignoring the later ones) from 1e into their 2nd edition. I think Inquisitor is the only one missing still?

[@tokesaop5776]

This is awesome, would be cool of you made a video on ancestry

[@JohnRieping]

That was a great summary. If you were planning on making more PF2 videos, I'd definitely subscribe.

[@ukulin8525]

Thank you ❤

[@timothymclean]

3:08: Ooh, I love playing brucely! 10:10: New to PF2 (though inspired by a variant of the same name from 3.5's Unearthed Arcana).

[@flaminyawn]

I've got a cleric built up for when my group starts its 2e AP, but I really like the Thaumaturge and Alchemist.

[@Seranuelian]

This video was really needed for pf2e

[@OmniGman]

Kind of surprised the Oracle class is named as such despite not making predictions/receiving visions of the future/etc., instead of calling them something like Hexers or Cursebearers.

[@mduckernz]

I think they’re called that because they’re “touched by the gods” which in antiquity meant they had some ability to see the future. So I can see why you’d be confused, but that is the connection :)

[@kingbadger8493]

I really like the bard it is the first class I've ever played in PF2. It was really fun 😊

[@Andy-lo2cb]

This has helped my party of brand new characters a lot.

[@michaelmoore2679]

I like the sound of the Investigator, Inventor and Summoner. All about those pet classes.

[@svenabel2987]

I keep watching those class guides because they are always so fascinating while I still haven't figured out a good chunk the base rules xD I should do my homework first Also I want to mention that Gunslinger has a class feat that's essentially a rocket jump. A rocket. jump. I just think that should get mentioned more often. From what I understand it's pretty bad but it's a ROCKET JUMP!

[@wahoobidy4912]

This video was amazing! It gave alot of insight and understanding. Thank you. So what would you say Is your favorite class and race so far?

[@Zedrinbot]

that's a tough call. I like alchemist a lot despite its issues. Fighter is super fun to play, as is druid. And after reading about summoner and psychic, I really want to give them a try. Probably my fav char so far was a kitsune investigator (more specifically, half-kitsune in lore, homebrewed a custom heritage sorta like how half-elf works.) For ancestries, I haven't played em yet but nagaji are interesting to me. I've typically always just chosen an ancestry that fit for the character idea I had at the time so didn't really have a lot of thought put into a 'favorite' choice. Some ideas I wanna try are a vanaran staff magus who is trying to emulate the legend of the Monkey King, and a divine nagaji priestess as an oracle, summoner, or psychic who was essentially chosesn by her clan for some purpose.

[@wahoobidy4912]

@Zedrin those sound pretty dope tbh. I'd probably want to make a automaton that's true neutral eventually. Make them kinda like a actual machine that was designed and not yet fully grasping the concept of being alive and greater purpose, as well as maybe emotions. And depending on what happens throughout the story, deciding what he'll become as he starts understanding who they are as a being. Love deep phylogenetic stuff like that personally. Maybe make them a sorcerer or monk. Either that or a cute leshy druid. Not sure which of the classes are my favorite yet, but fighter or summoner seem super fun. Insane just how customizable everything is. Like, you can literally be a tiefling stuffed toy that uses jedi mind trick on people. Like, that's incredible. Hell, I'm sure someone could play a loaf of bread that carries itself via mage hand.

[@wiegraf9009]

I really hope we get some PF2e based video games eventually because this system is so much fun

[@lrogersgaming4373]

Pretty sure a company’s making an abomination vaults video game loosely based around 2e lore and rules. It’s not a full comparison because this is being made to be a dungeon crawl hack and slash but it seems fun and is a step in the right direction.

[@startingfromlevelone9510]

I played a ranger in my first 2e game and loved how it felt.

[@Skymoc4]

Y'know, although I'm not an RPG expert at all (I've never played a single RPG game), it's definitely cool learning about these types of games from Zedrin's videos. I've never heard of Pathfinder, but maybe in the future, I'll be able to get into it. From how I see it, it's _WAY_ more simpler to understand than let's say D&D, but Idk 🙃

[@procrastinatinggamer]

I mean if you’re coming at it having never played a tabletop RPG before that should make it easier for you to learn than if you were coming into it from DnD 5e. People who’ve only played 5e and make the switch have to unlearn a lot of habits and get used to terms they’re familiar with from 5e meaning something entirely different in Pathfinder. It’s like the cognitive equivalent of your muscle memory getting in the way of things.

[@Zedrinbot]

i wouldn't say PF2 is easier by a long shot, lol. But IMO there are more characters you can envision without needing to just reflavor everything. Heck rules as written you can play a sniper sprite named Quigley, who rides a corgi named Spike into battle, who speaks undercommon (cause down under). And you use your mount's movement with the Independent trait, while you spend the action you save on reloading.

[@moooky52]

@@procrastinatinggamer i agree; i ran a couple friends with 0 TTRPG experience through the beginner box and they figured things out just fine. pf2e definitely seems harder to learn up front, but i think that's mainly the number of choices/options during character creation. in actual gameplay, i genuinely think pf2e is more intuitive, especially for a TTRPG beginner; "you have 3 actions" is so much easier to grok than "you have your movement, an action, maybe a 'bonus action,' and perhaps a 'free object interaction.'" there are a lot of rules, but they all make sense and slot together very cleanly. there are very few (if any) rules in pf2e as obtuse as 5e's bonus action spellcasting rules, or the difference between a "melee weapon attack" and an "attack with a melee weapon."

[@mduckernz]

@@Zedrinbot Well, there is one way it is definitely easier than 5e, and that is for the game master. 5e really doesn’t treat the person running the game well at all, requiring them to make many more judgement calls, and spend hours on encounter design because the challenge rating system straight up doesn’t work! Their adventure paths are also far inferior…

[@robintheviking8990]

Looking forward to playing a Mafus at some point.

[@SuperEagle112]

I just finished taking my buddies under Otari and are now on the way down the road to the book of the dead one shot. So dang fun

[@theoceanistblu9346]

Fantastic Video! Any chance we’ll get a similar one on Ancestries?

[@ryanm6004]

I'm currently playing a sprite flame soul druid and I absolutely love it. Such a fun class, and such a fun race, plus I made a character that I just really enjoying roleplaying as. I'm thinking my next pathfinder character is gonna be an inventor or summoner, I really like the ideas of those classes. When I play 5e my favorite class is warlock, but I haven't played enough pf2e to figure out my favorite class over here yet, since I've only played a rather poorly built bard and this druid.

[@memnun5615]

i started running a campaign of pf2e back in december, and my players are all brand new to pathfinder and one in particular is pretty new to the tabletop hobby in general. session zero i helped them make a ranger, a barbarian, and a sorcerer, taking purely CRB content to ease them in. last session the shorty squad fought 2 dragons simultaneously - the barbarian set a trap for one of them which made it comparatively easier to kill with the assistance of the sorcerer, and my ranger.... he solo'd the other dragon in Two Turns. little level 7 Bobbin the Gobbin went to TOWN on that Adult Black Dragon, I've never been more proud as a DM.

[@MyAramil]

So just started to get interested in pathfinder 2e, since the whole one dnd debacle just finally put the nail in the coffin for me. And so far I have liked what I have found out. Like it seems once you learn the system it will be easy to run/play. It offers a lot more customability in the classes and races( even more so than 3.5) and so much more

[@Classic_DM]

Creative video! The tunes made me feel like I had 19 jack and cokes and woke up at a corner table out of cash, disoriented, and greasy, but the dialog was awesome.

[@Halosty45]

I didn't need any of this information but that thumbnail got me

[@kyltredragmire4939]

I need to convince my group to try 2e again. We did a test game way back when....it didn't go well. Now with the revision happening I feel like it's the perfect system for us!

[@rubyseverinwhitworth9066]

There are two gods (one is third party) called Milani and Tulis who are the goddesses of Rebellion and Martyrdom respectively and ever since I discovered them I have wanted to play a paladin of them so badly. Well in this video I discovered that the champion has a CG oath about freeing people from their chains and it's PERFECT

[@prawn1717]

Big fan of the thaumaturge, always love characters who specialize in hunting monsters

[@mckayleepugmire9947]

Started Pathfinder as a gnome alchemist, so I'm glad to see it referenced. I am sad to see no shifter though (imagine druid, but if they specialized so hard in wild shape that they could do partial or chimeric transformations for bonuses and became a martial class)

[@Zedrinbot]

tbf, a lot of shifter's traits got rolled into base druid. The Wild Morph focus spell allows for partial and rapid transformations. Given that shifter made it into the WotR video game, it may see a full PF2 port sometime. Though originally it was fairly limited in what it could do, so I could maybe see it coming back as an archetype instead.

[@mariofun21]

@@Zedrinbot as someone who is playing 1E shifter in a campaign, yes, it sure is limiting, and sometimes having weird balance decisions, because why shouldn't spider shifters have access to web attacks at level 4 (druids could get it at level 5 thru Vermin Shape) but have the 3-4 aspects that have poison get their poison REALLY Late like Wasp gets limited poison at level 8, which is when druids get them, while the rest get their poisons at 15 because clearly I want my scorpion boi have 0 poison, one of the things scorpions are known for, for 14 levels (DM let me use Variant Multiclassing into scorpion sorcerer so I could get a poison, God Bless him), so I had to build my young lad into being really good with grappling, because why shouldn't someone who look like they should sit in the backline fold their enemies like an omlette

[@austinobst8989]

It's genuinely the best ttrpg right now. Nice overview

[@alberttsang1521]

My favorite p2 character was a kenku eldritch trickster with witch as the caster choice, she was also fairly old and had empty nest syndrome (lol). Her patron was baba yaga and the animate object spell you get from her is absolutely insane at solving problems and just being a nuisance, i was regularly able to flank with myself using this spell.

[@quendi5557]

More pathfinder content would be cool

[@saintguardian3639]

Now the ultimate task: Find a group that fits in your time.

[@andyschwartz8808]

No clue why both Dnd and Pathfinder seem to insist the sorcerer is blood based. If that were the case, why wouldn’t every fey related or dragon related character automatically be one.

[@Loopdeloop]

My ttrpg group just switched over to pathfinder from 5e 3 weeks ago and I switched my character from a dragonborn wizard to a human druid and so far it's been really fun. I've been making good berries and using gravitational pull with the flick of a finger here and a few weird words there it's nice but, it's weird no longer having a wand (I carved one out of a stick but it's kristhaken's wand) but the 3 action system is really cool