Pathfinder (2e): The 3-Action Economy

[@HowItsPlayed]

For more information, see: Initiative and Surprise: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWnTdZ2EdtqbjsU Delay and Ready: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKCoe2Cbbaasmas A Couple Misconceptions About the Delay Action: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJ7MlqCel7iXgbM Attack of Opportunity: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3y5lpiDj9CCgsk How Many Actions to Draw 2 Weapons?: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZyXc3ZtabOoetE Can You Use a Reaction Before Your First Turn in Combat?: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIu2oY2Im9mYbKM Can I Start Casting a Spell on One Turn and Finish on the Next?: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZoG9faeZmtOhbKM Can a Stunned Creature Use Reactions?: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmalY5R-oK-JpNk Can I Leap in the Middle of a Stride Action? kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKuWmWWwZp2arpo

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Hey the way you do vids is amazing and extremely helpful, can you do a vid series were you start by going over the basics of the class then make a vid of that class for lvls 1-5,6-10,11-15,16-20 then repeat it for a total of 4-6 builds I think this way you could get not only a lot of content but also help people understand thier classes and make builds as they please (im about to make a sword and board/bow n arrow fighter for the first time in pathfinder 2e)

[@sethrdee]

As someone from D&D 5e who is just learning about Pathfinder 2e, this is very useful. Thank you!

[@HowItsPlayed]

You're very welcome!

[@shib_lnu]

Even though I already play PF2 pretty regularly, I feel like I always learn something new from your videos. Thank you! I love the monopoly money analogy.

[@hectorvivis3651]

I actually sometimes watch back some earlier videos on things we use all the time, and sometimes have some surprise. Like recently, our group discovered you can only refocus the "last" focus point, and not just recharge all of them at will.

[@RollingSoloRPG]

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[@unfairlive2]

Easy clear explanations with proper usage of visuals. The only thing I could think off improving would be using chapters. They're a huge help for people using videos as an information resource. Regardless, keep it up, and thank you for your effort! Going to use your playlists to make the swith from 5e to 2e more palatable.

[@HowItsPlayed]

Thanks for the reminder! I usually include chapters, but I forgot this time around. But the video is now updated with chapters for easy viewing.

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I've been binge watching your PF2E Playlist all week. Thank you so much for all the detailed content!

[@HowItsPlayed]

Thanks for binge watching!

[@Mgranadosv]

As a 27 year veteran of AD&D, D&D and now looking into Pathfinder 2e, most of these things were basic stuff for me intuitively, but some like the varying actions for spells and such were not clear and you made it very clear. Thanks for that. Very informative.

[@CrimsionKing]

your channel is so helpful in parsing the mechanics of Pathfinder 2e! Keep up the awesome work! Thank you!

[@HowItsPlayed]

You're very welcome and thanks for the kind words!

[@jeremys4731]

Great video and content as usual! Thank you for making such consistent high-quality content!

[@HowItsPlayed]

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I'm glad that you are making such detailed and easy to understand videos! I'm sending your videos to my friends when they wan to learn about PF2E

[@HowItsPlayed]

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[@Ofley_Adventures]

Amazing work friend. You’ve helped me and many others a lot to perfectly understand the system. Have a wonderful day everyone! Thanks for the vid.

[@AlexanderBaird]

Hey Dave! Great video as always. I do have a suggestion, whenever I try to explain the limits of early game action economy to new or prospective players the immediate reaction is usually something like “well that sucks, you’re telling me I have to spend my whole turn standing up just to move 5 ft and attack somebody?” I find the thing that helps is leading off with a comment that at higher levels, you can do more on your turn through action economy boosting feats like Effortless Concentration for a free spell sustain or a Bashing Charge (just 2nd level) to stride twice and try to break down a door anywhere along your path. Higher level characters can just do more stuff and it really helps to know that

[@HowItsPlayed]

If the concern is spending an action to stand, followed by another to move only five feet -- the good news is the GameMastery Guide has some advice on managing that. Basically, the GM can combine the standing and short walk together, if they like. I have a video about that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKuWmWWwZp2arpo

[@hectorvivis3651]

Very high quality video as always, very adapted for the new people attracted by the system. Wonderful idea to have some of your other "great for beginners" work at the start of the description. For anyone that want to learn about PF2E, this channel is wonderful!

[@HowItsPlayed]

Thanks!

[@aloseman]

For the algorithm! I knew almost all of this already, but stayed on to give you that watch time. Hopefully your videos will help any new players coming in.

[@HowItsPlayed]

Thanks, as always!

[@zacharylane6148]

Oh my goodness! Your channel is such a wonderful resource! I love the clarity and source-citing that you strive for. One of my favorite things about pathfinder is how much less hand-wavy it is than some other systems. Kudos to you for doing the research needed to clarify the rules.

[@seaperson5704]

I really appreciate how condensed and visual these are. Been trying to cram lately to diversify my TTRPG portfolio - fortunately, I remembered this account from when I needed to learn Starship Combat in Starfinder, only to find you have Pathfinder 2E content by the boats! Thanks again, and consider me subbed.

[@HowItsPlayed]

Glad to hear the videos are helping! And thanks for the sub!

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Nice to see you back at it 😊

[@Radiotomb]

Thanks. Very in depth.

[@HowItsPlayed]

You're very welcome!

[@TeethSkylark]

I came here to learn about Pathfinder, as I have just started GMing a homebrewed campaign! Awesome video! Keep up the great content!

[@-Xabash-]

Your videos are perfect, thank you so much for sharing.

[@frakierG]

Ran my first game in pf2, the beginners box, thanks for the videos made it so much easier.

[@trxshgaming6620]

Great video. I'm brand new to pathfinder and this helped alot. Will be sending to the playgroup fs

[@nicholasjohnson9574]

Great video, thank you!

[@beardalaxy]

Very informative! If several Free Actions have different triggers, can they all take place in one turn/round? In D&D you only get one Free Action, so I'm wondering how it's different in Pathfinder!

[@HowItsPlayed]

Yes, if you have access to several abilities that cost Free Actions, you can use them all provided they're different triggering events. And you can use the same ability multiple times, as long as the triggering event occurs multiple times. Say, you have an ability that costs a Free Action and the Trigger is "when an adjacent ally is hit by an attack." You could use that ability every time an adjacent ally is hit... because each hit would be considered a different triggering event. But keep in mind the GM is always allowed to set their own limit to Free Actions too.

[@beardalaxy]

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[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Thank you for the livestream!

[@darkestlight660]

I generally like the rules here- I don't like the fact that you can't split up your movement between attacks. Just feels bad. Otherwise, again, I really love these rules

[@thetimebinder]

Yeah, but you couldn't for 20 years from 3.0 through 4e.

[@Ashebrethafe]

It makes sense to me -- the Stride action represents running as fast as you can for up to 2 seconds (one-third of a round), but you need to slow down in order to attack accurately. (Or maybe you could run in a straight line while swinging a weapon, but such a telegraphed attack would also be easy to dodge.) On the other hand, I don't like that you can't split activities between two rounds -- the end of a round isn't something that exists in the game world, so why should it affect what the characters can do?

[@thesuperjacobshow8151]

Pathfinder books are on my birthday present list.

[@haydongonzalez-dyer2727]

Great

[@ttrev007]

This is really helpful

[@jasonnguyen350]

Thanks for the vid new pathfinder gm here

[@chainsaw7638]

Very useful!

[@trxshgaming6620]

On to the next video

[@AceOfSerberit]

do I need to watch these in release order? or are they more individual pieces of information I can watch in any order?

[@HowItsPlayed]

They mostly can be viewed in any order. Some are noted as "Part 1" and a few will tell you during the introduction if they rely on information in a previous video, but aside from those points you can watch in any order.

[@AceOfSerberit]

@@HowItsPlayed thanks!

[@cheezeofages]

Monopoly money? But Monopoly is owned by Hasbro! Seriously though, monopoly money actions seems like a fun accessory.

[@hectorvivis3651]

A friend of my group had difficulty remembering the rules and stuff, but it clicked as soon as she got physical token of the different things. So the 3 actions became "3 rocks". I'd wager that approach could be quite effective for some people with learning disabilities or having hard time with gaming mechanics in general.

[@HowItsPlayed]

Oof.... I never even considered they may be owned by Hasbro.... #OpenDND!

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I'm here because of the OGL1.1

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Welcome and #OpenDND!

[@drakewarrior1013]

Wait, can someone give a link to where it says thay you can't use multiple free actions with the trigger "your turn begins"?

[@HowItsPlayed]

Page 468 under "Step 1: Start Your Turn". "You can use 1 free action or reaction with a trigger of 'Your turn begins' or something similar."

[@drakewarrior1013]

@@HowItsPlayed - thank you very much!

[@Anthean72]

@How It's Played: Concerning retributive strike: i read several discussions about Retributive Strike and the Damage Reduction: does it really reduce different kinds of damage or only one damage. F.e. if the character receives slashing and fire damage, does retributive Strike reduce X damage slashing AND x damage fire? Or is this reduction applied only once?

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excuse me please, I know the videos use a lot of visuals so my question might seems daft but is this available as a podcast?

[@t.soares1125]

I'm considering picking up Pathfinder 2E. I've never played before. I'm considering picking up Pathfinder 2E. I've never played before. I'm curious, if a character chooses to stride 15 ft. Example to get closer to an enemy, is the enemy able to counter? Let's say that an enemy was in an open field, was 20 ft away, both the player and the NPC had swords drawn and were aware of each other. Let's say that the player chooses stride as an action to get closer to the NPC. Obviously in real combat, when somebody approaches, the one would have the opportunity to retreat back, to move forward, or to stand their ground. Does the NPC have this option? When the other character moves? How would that work?

[@HowItsPlayed]

Under most circumstances a character will need to wait until it's their turn before they can move or take other actions. So, if a player strides over to an enemy, that enemy will not move or act immediately but instead would allow the player to complete their turn and then move when it is officially the enemy's turn. There are some exceptions to this. Each character (including enemies) can spend one Reaction per turn. Some creatures have reactions that allow them to move away when someone moves next to them. Others (and more common) can spend their reaction to follow when someone moves away from them. But each creature is limited to how they can spend their reactions... they need to have an ability or effect that allows it. Another option is what's called a Ready action (I have a few videos on the topic). If the enemy had spent 2 actions on their previous turn, they could have said "I'm going to Ready an action. If an enemy moves next to me, I will move away". And then when the player moves next to them, they could spend their action to move away. But not if they had not readied their action.

[@t.soares1125]

​@@HowItsPlayedThanks for the very quick and thorough response. I look forward to watching the remainder of your videos. You obviously have a love for Pathfinder. Jordan iron, given the amount of material published to support the game, it seems like a good option. I'm coming from Rolemaster (sometimes referred to as chart master) which was published in the '80s. I love the gritty realism and own most of the material published for the game. That said, I've played through all of the adventures. I'm looking for a system that has published adventures and this seems like a good fit.

[@gustavoRamirez-p1i]

Please note that the reaction is regained at the start of the round, not at the start of your turn

[@kgeo2686]

I know it's just cuz i'm from 5e but I love splitting movement...

[@ohthreefiftyone]

It’s great for ranged characters. Step out of full cover, shoot, return to full cover.

[@NormalesEinhorn]

Hi Algorithm Hi Dave Hi 5e ppl

[@HowItsPlayed]

Thanks! :)

[@JesusDefeatedMe]

I miss 3.5 and PF 1st E

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Why do you miss them? They didn’t go anywhere. Go play them.

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[@thetimebinder]

Third action = you miss

[@arena_sniper7869]

Which is why it’s important that you find a third action that isn’t an attack.

[@clanpsi]

*RetriBUtive Strike

[@jefffisher1297]

Rules, rules, rules, more rules this system should be called Mathfinder. GM "What does your character want to do?", Player, "I want run up to the goblin and smash his face in" GM "You'll need to leap over that fallen column, roll your DEX DC12 and then you can attack." No complicated rules needed.

[@varenoftatooine2393]

None of this is complicated, unless you struggle counting to 3.

[@arena_sniper7869]

Stride, Leap, then Strike no checks needed.

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Oh look, youre back :) wonder why