PATHFINDER: WOTR - ANGEL Mythic Path GUIDE - Angel ORACLE Build, Abilities & More! Unfair Viable

[@cRPGBro]

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[@Jake-mv7kn]

I really appreciate that you keep your characters mostly pure, I’m a new player and you’ve been the most helpful KZbinr I’ve found on this game by far. You also explain things in a way that make sense. Thanks so much for your guides.

[@cRPGBro]

Thank you! I really appreciate the comment. Glad my guides are being useful to you, I do make them somewhat lengthy but the purpose is to indeed explain the mechanics well to new players. It's also why I like keeping the characters pure, for the simplicity of it. And also to show that pure classed characters are still very powerful when properly prepared, as I've seen a lot of people saying you can't win at the game without multiclassing, which is blown out of proportions.

[@jakuboledzki6499]

Totally agree - all those optimal 1 level dips make your character chart look like Frankenstein's monster

[@TeriiTeri]

I made a written version of this guide, for those of you who want to follow it without having to watch the entire video a second or third time: Pure Angel Oracle Build: Race: Human Background: Shackles Corsair Ability Scores: 14-10-14-12-10-19 Skills: Knowledges, Religion, Persuasion, Use Magic Device Levels: 1: Combat Reflexes, Seize the Moment, Curse: Powerless, Mystery: Nature, Revelation: Animal Companion - Wolf, Spells: Cure Spells, Divine Favor, Shield of Faith 2: Skills 3: Shake It Off, Revelation: Friend to Animals, Spell: Unbreakable Heart 4: +CHA, Spells: Bull's Strength 5: Improved Initiative, Spells: Bless, Restoration, Lesser 6: Prayer 7: Outflank, Revelation: Weapon Mastery, Scimitar, Spells: Remove Fear, Aid, Bear's Endurance, Archon's Aura 8: +CHA, Scimitar, Spell: Crusader's Edge 9: Spell Focus: Conjuration, Spells: Align Weapon, Remove Curse, Death Ward 10: Spell: Burst of Glory 11: Greater Spell Focus: Conjuration, Revelation: War Sight, Spells: Arrow of Law, Searing Light, Freedom of Movement, Breath of Life 12: +CHA, Scimitar, Heal 13: Metamagic (Bolster Spell), Spells: Protection From Energy, Communal, Spell Resistance, Dispel Magic, Greater 14: Restoration, Greater 15: Metamagic (Extend Spell), Revelation: Nature's Whisper, Spells: Geniekind, Eaglesoul, Holy Ward 16: +CHA, Spells: Frightful Aspect 17: Dazzling Display, Spells: Destruction, Shield of Law 18: Heal, Mass 19: Shatter Defenses, Revelation: Skill at Arms, Spells: Angelic Aspect, Greater, Winds of Vengeance 20: Spell: Summon Monster IX Mythic Path: 1: Close to the Heavens, Second Mystery: Battle or Last Stand 2: Extra Mythic Ability: Abundant Casting 3: Improved Abundant Casting, Mythic Spellbook (Oracle) 4: Greater Abundant Casting, Abolish Guile or Everlasting Flame 5: Last Stand or Second Mystery: Battle, Piercing Rays 6: Improved Initiative (Mythic), Everlasting Flame or Abolish Guile 7: Enduring Spells, Solar Winds 8: Greater Enduring Spells, Speed of Light 9: Archmage Armor, Favorite Metamagic (Extend Spells) or Mythical Beast, Burning Bright

[@cRPGBro]

Hi there! With your help I have now edited a build spreadsheet of this Angel Oracle for easier use, here it is! It is also at the end of the video description now. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1scnAXhCK3irspBw3V1Ax0aai0Ccbdiq6Ys6eQx3Hw4I/edit?usp=sharing

[@TeriiTeri]

@@cRPGBro Hey, that's actually really helpful! I didn't expect you to do something like this, thanks a lot! :)

[@sharangcool]

Both of you deserve a coupon for a free night at the house of thousand delights 😏

[@Arishem34]

Thank you! After watching the video a few times, I wrote it down, but I was having trouble reading my own handwriting!

[@fanyang2884]

a great response

[@uiliamlandim293]

Body, definately your channel for WOTR is by far the most detailed and complete for new player like me. I guess I watched all your PF videos. You really are doing here a great job! If I may, let me make a special request: Could you prepare a build for melee and spellcaster using a gold dragon MP (as you did for azata). Those builds got my interest once there is not much content about gold dragon MP around. Once again, thanks for the excelent content man, I'm your huge fan!

[@cRPGBro]

Thank you! Glad to hear my videos are being really helpful. Gold Dragon is on my to do list as far as Mythic Guides - same for Aeon, Legend, Devil and even Swarm!

[@Viper3220]

This is a beast of a build. Only thing I would say is 15:40 you're sleeping on the level 6 spell chains of light. It's a reflex save hold person that doesn't allow SR and blocks them from using teleportation magic.

[@melias1013]

I've played alot of builds playing this game but these (Angel + Companion) builds are the most devastating I've ever seen! Thanks for all the tips.

[@cRPGBro]

Thank you for the comment, glad my builds are being useful to you! I think once the Enhanced Edition comes I'll definitely release updated versions, but they work just fine at the moment too.

[@spellandshield]

The Aeon build guide...the final revelation!

[@Android-47]

bro, this was literally what i was looking for ! finally i will be able to unite RP with a strongue build, thank you !👌

[@cRPGBro]

Glad to help, bro! It's certainly one of the strongest combos in the game, happy smiting with your Angel 😀

[@Panthro-lo2lh]

Doing an oracle/angel run and it is surprisingly powerful. Amazing nukes and buffs.

[@cRPGBro]

Yeah, Angel Oracle is probably one of the strongest characters in the game as far as ease of use and general power.

[@dirtydan1652]

So many builds! 😂🤣 I can’t decide which one! This is such a good game! Great videos!

[@cRPGBro]

Thank you 🤗 All the builds and the customization choices in Wrath are really some of the things I love the best about it and also the D&D games!

[@dirtydan1652]

@@cRPGBro I’m currently using your build, and WOW! Just reached Mythic rank 3, and I feel like a God. Thanks again! I have a friend that’s a KZbinr, and I know these videos take time to make! It’s hard work! Just know that you’ve got people that appreciate what you do!

[@cRPGBro]

@@dirtydan1652 Thank you so much! Positive feedback like this really is appreciated, it's really nice knowing my videos are of use. And really glad to hear you're having a blast with my Angel Build, it really becomes amazing after you merge your spellbook at Chapter 3!

[@SalinaMoonfall]

Know background is sort of an afterthought, but picking Shackle Corsair sounds like an awesome character concept of a pirate angel ^_^.

[@cRPGBro]

Yeah, Shackles Corsair has some neat RP potential to it! Plus free proficiency for Scimitars which are one of the best weapons in the game is icing on the cake :)

[@briegroncal1551]

This is the most concise and clear build guide series on KZbin! Subscribed

[@cRPGBro]

Thank you! Please be sure to check my other builds here if you need, or send any questions my way: kzbin.info/aero/PL8adH-ifQHcCKJLmiEgBPW2cnYtseib10

[@adrianop776]

Awesome video! Really excited for my next playthrough with an angel/oracle build, I'll do a build very similar to yours but with a dip in scaled fist (I'm weak... I know, I'm sorry!!!). I really want to have a gigantic AC with 3x my charisma modifier (monk + mistery + byebye Daeran - no need for 2 oracles in the party hehe)

[@cRPGBro]

Hope you have fun with Angel Oracle - it's certainly extremely powerful! With Sacred Fist no doubt you'll hit 110+ AC.

[@jasonite]

Another cool build with great synergy. Cmon though, if you're going oracle, pure angelic path, wings... you've gotta go Aasimar!

[@cRPGBro]

Aasimar certainly has the biggest thematic relevenace, but I really like the idea of a simple, average human eventually becoming all the Mythic Paths in Wrath which are inspired from all sorts of Outsiders!

[@enightc]

I was thinking of starting an cleric angel but was contemplating an Oracle angel due to them being the only ones that get merged spell book. Luckily you made the decision for me. Awesome.

[@cRPGBro]

Glad to hear it! Angel Cleric can also be very powerful, but Oracle has some really neat goodies.

[@trythis2006]

the spells looks like a lot of fun

[@cRPGBro]

They absolutely are! You have very powerful heals, party wide buffs for immunities and even irresistible aoe damage + cc!

[@trythis2006]

@@cRPGBro ready for some demon barbeque! x)

[@christofferhougaard]

Normally I'd say get a hired brown fur transmuter to apply the transmutation spells on you, but this build is so busted there's no need for an arcanist... I never thought I would never need an arcanist! Great build, very detailed, can't wait for more content!

[@cRPGBro]

Thank you! Angel is indeed crazy powerful, especially when merged with Oracle. The spells alone are amazing, as I show here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pICYlqlrpKukrqs

[@robertyue2107]

Awesome build! cRPG Bro, your channel deserve more subscriber, and this video deserve more views+likes! Does Darkness Caress' CHA bonus to ranged weapons increase Bolt of Justice (and other ranged touch spells) damage?

[@cRPGBro]

Thank you for the support! I believe Darkness Caress should only increase ranged weapon damage, and Bolt is a spell. It's still the headband with biggest +CHA in the whole game so definitely worth getting.

[@robertyue2107]

@@cRPGBro Agree, +8 CHA is a lot.

[@eddiebulls7851]

Well done and nice guide, as always.

[@sharangcool]

Just finished my run with this, ur skald, sosiel, seelah & arushalae build on hard... And omg by act 4 I was unstoppable and act 5 a literal God among men. I had unlimited power! Not even the true ruler of the abyss the vavaxia vanguard could touch me

[@cRPGBro]

Glad you enjoyed it! Merged Angel can already become a powerhouse as soon as Chapter 3, especially with easy access to the Devouring Lust Metamagic Rod for maximized Bolt & Storm of Justice damage.

[@JohnSmith-bs9ym]

Ah definitely need all the special mythic path related guides 😀 please do Aeom, especially, as its story is pretty cool.

[@cRPGBro]

Aeon is on my to do list, story wise it seems very interesting and unique!

[@dh7930]

I never skip out on any buffs that say "communal" , is there a reason you skipped a bunch of these spells in your build? Just curious! Keep up the good work.

[@cRPGBro]

Hi there, the reason is that Angel, through either the Aegis or Fortress of the Faithful spell can already give for example Resist Energy Communal to the whole party at once, together with mass Shield & Shield of Faith as well. You'll still have to cast Protection from Energy Communal, however. Another reason is that I often have other party members, like Camellia, cast some mass buffs like Protection from Energy Communal, True Seeing, Stoneskin & the mass version of the Animal Buffs. So I can save my Angel spell slots for the better unique Angel Mythic spells. And thanks for the comment & support!

[@andreacolombo7896]

Very nice insights! I had to go back to my melee Angel build and make a few tweaks as I didn't realize Purifier Oracle was giving up too much in exchange for a bugged Armor Training ability that I didn't actually need (I run heavy armor but I can pick Armor Master from TableTop Tweaks and get rid of the limitation on DEX/CHA.) It's a shame that the Bound of Possibility doesn't work; it would be a pretty serious boost to damage and healing. The headband you're using comes very late in the game, and it is ranged focused; wouldn't it be a better choice for Arue? EDIT: WRT the Staggered condition from the Oracle's Curse, didn't they change it in one of the recent patches to make it unavoidable? EDIT 2: Your ring and goggles give the same bonus type to your Persuasion skill checks so you can actually drop the ring in favor of a different one.

[@MidKnightOTC]

I multiclassed oracle into bloodrager and now I have an undying, bulky destroyer

[@nssSmooge]

Amazing video and great explanation :) Angel is just OP. But what i dont like is that all end up blasting which i dont do xD

[@cRPGBro]

Thank you for the comment! Blasting is very powerful for Angel due to Storm/Bolt of Justice, but you can shift the build focus to more melee! This same Angel Oracle I show here for example deals more than 100 damage when attacking outside of criticals, because of how powerful Angel Sword + all the buffs are when it comes to stacking damage. And that's without much melee investment as well.

[@andreacolombo7896]

If you'd like to try a more melee-focused build, you can try mine: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14UqIKj7YZzymRNvQ4fx8mCXWSaBeJi-Zv_Tlv-R1bEI/edit?usp=sharing Note that I update it rather frequently as I progress through the game (or watch cRPG Bro's videos ;))

[@amination8982]

May i ask who was casting Heroic Invocation in the party? Thank you for making awesome guides all the time!

[@cRPGBro]

Hi there, for this party in particular I used scrolls of Heroic Invocation for the late game (you don't get many, but enough for the big late game areas such as one for Demon City, one for Iz and one for Baphomet's Prison. I used Aru with UMD, but you can also use your Angel Oracle who has very high CHA modifier to help make the scroll check. And thank you for the comment and support, friend!

[@amination8982]

@@cRPGBro Ohhhh Thank you man! that clears it up for me

[@Denis-bq9hp]

Finally startet playing WotR. Your Guide is awesome. What would you recommend for an offensive wizard? And do you use a Portrait Pack? :-)

[@Adrian-qr5qy]

Thank you for all your builds cRPG bro. I lkie this build,but i was wondering if it makes Daeran obsolete. I like having him in my party.

[@charliehugh8]

Quite often, I get a different number of spells to you per level despite copying your guides exactly. Why is this and how can I fix it? An example of this is level 7 on this build. Additionally what items do you recommend buying for Angel (or just generally) during Act 2, and for Sosiel’s build, when do you recommend getting the boon companion feat (if ever)?

[@cRPGBro]

Hello there, and thank you so much for the Channel Membership! Spell Slot difference can be because of higher Charisma (the build is done as a respecced character) and also some item boosts like the Grimoire from the Ivory Sanctum boss. Sometimes there is also a bug with respec where it shows you having more spells at once than possible, I think. For Angel Oracle gear during Chapter 2, you can for for the Spontaneous Saster rings like Red Salamander, and always Headbands with the highest +Charisma, +4 at that point usually. For Sosiel, I do recommend getting Boon Companion now, as early as you can to make his pet fully scale to his level, so around level 9 or 11 would be good.

[@melias1013]

Thanks!

[@cRPGBro]

Hi there, and thank you so much for the Super Thanks! Your support is really appreciated 😀

[@abcdefgh28001]

Very impressive. Thank you. Even if it's not the best, it's possible to do that with an Oread Gemsoul ?

[@cRPGBro]

Definitely! For an OP Angel what really matters is Oracle, Cleric, Druid or Shaman then Angel Merge. The racial boosts don't really change much.

[@samuel.andermatt]

One more question, what is your opinion on scimitar vs Fauchard? Fauchard will need more feats (it seems only 1 more feat), but the reach seems nice.

[@cRPGBro]

There are better Scimitars in the game, and you can 2Hand them for 2H damage boost. Fauchard has reach, though, and that is very useful especially during the early game. I'd say if are mounted, then you can certainly go with Scimitars as your AC won't matter. If you don't have a mount though, I would prefer Fauchard for the reach and safety, especially during the early game.

[@samuel.andermatt]

@@cRPGBro Thanks for the response. One more thing about the background. You could also get Scimitar proficiency with the Nomad background (and 3 HP for the pet), how do you think it stacks up against the shackled corsair?

[@cRPGBro]

@@samuel.andermatt Well, the nice thing about Shackles Corsair is that it gives Mobility as a Class Skill too so it can help with Mounted Combat feat early on. +3 to Pet HP can be nice for the early game, but after that it'll become rather useless.

[@vivienmercier3733]

Thankyou for your vidéo Friend. I was searching a good game which let me play as a powerful archangel and I think I found the right one. Will you try cleric Angel too ? I wanna know which one is the best between oracle/cleric and your builds are probably the best on KZbin.

[@cRPGBro]

Hi there and thank you for the support! I am glad my Angel video was useful to you. You can certainly expect a great Angel/Archangel experience in Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous on the Angel Mythic Path. It's one of the most fleshed out content, and you will eventually get Angel allies to help you, it's not just great gameplay wise, but also story wise too. I have not tried Angel Cleric before, but I can tell you Oracle is probably going to be a bit better, although with an Angel Cleric, you won't need to have a Cleric party member as you will already be able to cast the powerful Domain abilities yourself. Angel Cleric is going to be extremely strong as well, though!

[@lolreplayupload6905]

Nice video! Would half-elf kindred based be better since you said the last few feets are not that important and you get higher cha this way? Delays a few feats a bit but with battle master you should be fast enough since you can "skip" weapon feats. Currently planning a half elf angel oracle caster for pure casting. Also if you go gish (melee) you could go aasimar angelkin for higher str/same cha. Also what shirt are you wearing? Anyways good video!

[@cRPGBro]

Thank you for the comment! I would say in the end the race choice is up to the one you like the best, really. I just happen to prefer Human. As you can see, Angel + Oracle is so powerful that an extra feat or an extra +2 to CHA (or something else) won't really make that much of a difference overall unless you REALLY want to minmax. The robes I'm wearing are just simple ones that add a bonus to Knowledge skills and Reflex saves, but you can go with anything really.

[@lolreplayupload6905]

@@cRPGBro That's true. I will probably drop most of the melee combat feats as late game im mostly casting while also dropping abundant mythic feats. That allows me to pick up spell focus+mythic spell focus with expanded arsenal with insane DCs. Now im curious if Enduring Feats work with Overwhelming presence(probably not if im reading it correctly). If it does work I dont even know whats able to kill me... Oracle Angel is just so freaking strong and versatile. Only difficulty is running a good party for roleplaying reasons :D Anyways have a wonderful day!

[@baaLsecundus]

Kind of late here - awesome build and video; greatly appreciated. That said, what about the pet/wolf? Do we just invest in him as a tank?

[@cRPGBro]

Hi there, and thank you! I actually have a build for Wolf here in my Complete Pet Guide: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXnPhKyNnbKbr6M Best thing about pets is that they can be used for both tanking, CC and good damage!

[@baaLsecundus]

@@cRPGBro Awesome, thanks :)

[@AerinSwift]

Looks good. Gonna try this build in unfair run.

[@richardforde1]

I only found recently you can merge the angel spellbook with Shaman. Both Spirit Hunter and Shadow Shaman are absurd. You can be a full offensive caster, a great melee dps, a great tank and a great buffer with a full level pet.

[@cRPGBro]

Yeah, merging spellbook always makes for strong builds. You can also merge Angel with Druid which is rather amusing.

[@jasonpauldegraaf]

I love Greater Magic Weapon as my first or second Level 4 Oracle Spell here with Merged Angel. Upon Mythic Rank 3, they will already be caster level 12-13 and will advance in their caster level faster than any other party member. Seelah casting GMW will be four levels behind any other caster, greatly reducing the effectiveness of the spell.

[@cRPGBro]

That is true, I often like to leave it for Seelah only in the cases where you don't have a merged character.

[@jasonpauldegraaf]

@@cRPGBro Right on. By the way, do you know if Paladin's Bestow Grace stacks with Bestow Grace of the Champion (Cleric Spell)?

[@empyressYT]

do you plan to cover trickster into mythic legend build? aka the one where u keep some of the trickster feats when switching to legend

[@cRPGBro]

Sure thing, I plan on trying Legend eventually, and it's certainly great to go Trickster > Legend as you retain all the Perception 2 feats!

[@majimagoro7029]

heya Bro, thanks for the videos man, really enjoyed it and helpful since i started my 1st full unfair playthrough LOL anyway how's the oracle angel compared to ss trickster ? i did choose ss on my current unfair and probably not gonna do oracle angel due to limited time until end of year XD

[@cRPGBro]

Thank you for the support! Oracle Angel overall gains a lot more power as soon as Mythic Rank 3 because of not only spell merge, but also the very powerful angel buffs & Bolt/Storm of Justice. Both of these offensive spells will trivialize single bosses & also dangerous packs of enemies on Unfair.

[@SoaringStranger]

Thankyou.

[@cRPGBro]

You're welcome!

[@errolneal9789]

while it's great to respec and show off these builds I will say that progressing with them is a whole other matter. for example you mention the downside of powerless propehcy and yes you can mitigate it with freedom of movement and some accessories maybe but freedom of movement is a level 4 spell which you get at level 8. You don't get the boots of free reign until act 3 so going through 8+ levels where the MC is useless for an entire first round can be punishing, especially when you take into consideration mid game ambushes.

[@cRPGBro]

Being staggered for the first round won't really make you useless, and level 8 is around Chapter 2, you can also buy scrolls of it earlier and it lasts for 10m/level so very long. You also still have a very strong pet from level 1 + divine buffs to highly help the party. The strong ambushes only come at Chapter 3 via random map encounters, and you can counter them by having a character with high Stealth + Stealth gear like Aru. Also, you can still charge out of combat to ambush the enemies yourself as I will show on a video soon.

[@henrypaine2123]

@@cRPGBro Am I doing something wrong? I have powerless prophesy, and use a scroll of freedom of movement and am still suffering the staggered effect at the beginning of the fight. I thought FoM was supposed to cancel that?

[@totallynotevil666]

A question if you don't mind: where is the full +20 to your strength coming from? I'm assuming +4(?) from belt, +6 from Legendary Proportions or Frightful Aspect, and +4 from Eaglesoul, for +14. Another +2 from one of the books (or potion?) makes +16. Where does the last +4 come from? Also, do the books and potion stack? I didn't try it on my last run (first run as well) because I made a different decision that locks out that potion. As an inherent bonus, I think they aren't supposed to, but you can never tell with the way owlcat implemented some things ^^;

[@cRPGBro]

Hi there, and feel free to ask any questions :) Here is a screenshot with my Angel's STR mod at end game, it is +6 from Belt and also +4 Cooking from Conflagrant Taco Recipe: imgur.com/a/d9LFosQ The potion and tomes both have an Inherent Bonus, so they will not stack. This is why it's better to leave Tomes to companions and the Elixir to your main character. I have the location of them here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/apasYWlra7xnpqc

[@totallynotevil666]

@@cRPGBro Thanks! I forgot about food buffs. I largely ignored them in my lich run, but if they can give those kind of bonuses to stats, perhaps I should pay more attention to food...

[@valk_7233]

I think you could go Two Handed for more damage because as Angel you have Aegis of The Faithul which give +4 to Shield AC.

[@cRPGBro]

Two handed works indeed if you prefer a more melee focused build, and I'd definitely go for Fauchard or Falchion in that case.

[@iech0526]

Hey @cRPG Bro, I'm wondering if this build is still viable after the Enhanced Edition release? Even though I'm a complete noob my guess would be that this build is still viable for Enhanced Edition WOTR. Also I'm wondering if powerless prophecy is still the best curse to take since I heard from another comment apparently that freedom of movement no longer negates the stagger effect from the curse? What would be a possible alternative curse with this build?

[@XDantevsVergilX]

I know what character I want but don't even know what to put my points into when level up or what feats to take,game is kinda overwhelming

[@iech0526]

@@XDantevsVergilX Ngl it is, but I’m just trying to follow and copy guides the best I can

[@masterjoda999]

What are some recommended alternatives to nature mystery? Would bones be worthwhile at all? Or battle at level 1 and ancestor with mythic?

[@cRPGBro]

Unfortunately, nothing will be quite as good as Nature, due to: 1. CHA to AC passive 2. CHA to Pet Saves permanent aura 3. Full scaling Pet from level 1 Battle is another choice, but besides that, Life has the best spell selection for free, and one of the Revelations is good too.

[@Weedsethesecond]

Where did you get that portrait? Because that portrait slaps!

[@cRPGBro]

Hi there! It should be portrait number 5 from: www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwrathoftherighteous/mods/51?tab=files I also really like this portrait, truly fits the Oracle class.

[@alanvaladez559]

Hey, I was wondering if I could get your opinion on this build I have in mind. Basically, I'm thinking of going Legend with 20 levels as a crossblooded sorcerer (with both water and electricity bloodlines) then, dip into leyline guardian witch to pick up winter patron and switch to winter witch once i pick up all those cold spells. Most of my feats I plan on going for spell enhancements and other team based ones (the applicable ones that is). Just wanted to know if you have done soemthing similar before and if so, how viable it is. Also, nice oracle build, I might try it once im done with this current run, though i might go for a different mythic path haha

[@cRPGBro]

I think thematically, it could result in a fun build if you went Lich first with Crossblooded. However, Cold & Electricity spells are mostly subpar, besides let's say Stormbolts and Polar Ray which come very late. Damage spells in Wrath of the Righteous take a LONG time to become good, besides Mythic Angel and Lich ones. Which brings another point, Winter Witch is... not really a good prestige class. BUT, since you are going Legend, you have the levels to spare, and as a full Sorcerer, you can certainly play around with spell choices. Lastly, remember that Crossblooded Sorc actually learn new spells even slower than normal Sorc (2 levels delay compared to 1 level delay from Sorc vs Wizard) so I'd REALLY recommend you merge with Lich. I just worry about you not having too much fun with the build gameplay wise during the early levels if you focus on Cold and Elec spells.

[@alanvaladez559]

I see. Ill keep that in mind, might switch electricity for earth spells but i plan to have Ember on the party throwing fireballs as well to help out. Will aim for going Lich first then, to supplement myself, as for spell choice I might consider going a different class with water spells then. I was also toying with going kineticist first and then go for witch. But...i have no idea how to play that class xD

[@Knightmage_elf]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but Oracle only gives you one mystery, period? Did WOTR just change that and let you pick multiple different mysteries? If you go for Nature at level 1, then you don't have access to Battle Mystery because that's a whole separate mystery?

[@cRPGBro]

It's from the Second Mystery Mythic Ability, which lets you pick a second one 😀

[@Knightmage_elf]

@@cRPGBro Ah that explains a bit. Does WOTR have the "War Blessing" feat? It lets you pick two War Priest blessings, taking your Oracle level as your Warpriest level. Its a great way to get Powerful Healer (+50% to cures) without needing to dip into the Heal Mystery.

[@hyrel668]

Do you think it'd also be viable to go for Seeker instead of base Oracle? You get 3 bonus feats at the cost of 2 Revelations. And thanks a lot for the guide!

[@cRPGBro]

Hmm... I'd say Revelations are a lot more important than normal feats, as you get less of them. Some can even give multiple feats, including ones that you wouldn't be able to access normally without multiclassing. So I would say overall, default Oracle is definitely stronger. And thanks for the comment 😀

[@hyrel668]

@@cRPGBro thanks for the quick reply, you got yourself a new sub! :D While I have you here, one more question! I was thinking of also getting 2 levels of Paladin for Divine Grace, adding the big CHA modifier to all saving throws, do you think that be worth losing the last 2 oracle levels (and rip Final Revelation too)? I don't know much about the Pathfinder rules, but since Paladins are also classified as Divine Caster, does that mean I wouldn't lose spell progression?

[@cRPGBro]

@@hyrel668 Thanks for the sub 😀 I wouldn't bother with Paladin levels, because Oracle Angel can already eachieve very high saving throws as is, and Seelah can cast the Bestow Grace spell on you for the same effect (CHA mod to saves). Paladins have a different spellbook and spell progression than Oracle, so multiclassing will stunt your Oracle spell progression, sadly.

[@62saki91]

How do you get your stats so high? I see you took nocticulas profane bonus, but what other things give base line bonuses? And did you get the numerian greatsword by leaving the machine in tact?

[@cRPGBro]

I cover all the Buffs for stats and such here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJ6yZniEiq6cZ8k Ideally you have Noct Profane Gift, then +6-8 as Enhancement, STR gets a lot more from Size too. Some specific spells can also give other bonuses like Morale as Azata.

[@ugniteous]

Thank you for the build! Quick question, what would feats would you change and take for a more melee focused 2h build? Would a dip in Scaled Fist, Paladin and/or Hellknight be worth it?

[@cRPGBro]

For a more melee focused build, Power Attack + Cleave + Cleaving Finish. You can take Spell Focus and Greater Focus Conjuration out for example. I would not bother dipping because Oracle or Cleric's main strength is their merged spells as Angels, the sooner you get your level 10 spells, the better.

[@ugniteous]

@@cRPGBro Thanks! I'm new to Pathfinder and its system so this helps alot!

[@zequill9728]

What general team setup would you run with this build? I'm looking to start an angel run and want a fun/effective team comp

[@cRPGBro]

For Angel Oracle, I really like going with: 1. Camellia for hexes + spell support and she can fight just fine as well. 2. Seelah for Pet + Mark of Justice, and as a high BAB class she's also fine at fighting. 3. Sosiel for more divine spells and most importantly, the very powerful Domain Abilities that we don't get as Oracle. 4. A Skald mercenary, Skalds are extremely unique when it comes to many amazing party wide support buffs. You can go for 2H Skald with Fauchard, Dual Scimitars or Axe Throwing Skald even. 5. Aru or Lann/Wenduag for ranged support as all other characters are melee, Aru can buff our party with her Favored Enemy damage while Lann & Wenduag are extremely customizable. I already have builds for all of these, the same builds I tend to use in my runs, so be sure to check them out in my Builds Playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PL8adH-ifQHcCKJLmiEgBPW2cnYtseib10

[@grayfenix]

@@cRPGBro I feel like your party doesnt matter at all with Angel/Oracle. You can solo everything on unfair easily starting with act 3. I played your cavalier my first play through of this game, and now angel oracle. Cavalier seemed like easy mode until I did this build, angel/oracle just trivialized everything.

[@cRPGBro]

@@grayfenix Angel Oracle is indeed extremely strong, any Angel merge really. The buffs are amazing, and Bolt/Storm of Justice are just OP!

[@PedroGarcia-qi2fb]

Hey, im totally new to this type of games, so you are only able to go Angel mythic at lvl 20? Is there no option before that? Just wanna make sure im not doing something wrong :P

[@cRPGBro]

Hi there, you should be able to fully go into Angel Mythic at the end of Chapter 2, which should be around level 9-10 :)

[@PedroGarcia-qi2fb]

@@cRPGBro Thanks alot, is that something you dont recommend because it will mess up the build? Just a bit affraid that by the time i get to choose angel mystic game will be on a very late stage :p

[@cRPGBro]

@@PedroGarcia-qi2fb It's not a matter of choice really, you can choose any Mythic Path for your 1st Ascension (which is when you gain first Mythic Rank at Mythic 1, at the end of Chapter 1), it's just a minor ability. But for the true Mythic choice, it's only at the end of Chapter 2, you don't have a choice in the matter, you are forced into picking it then. What I recommend you do is keep a save at the end of Chapter 2 so later if you want to replay with a different Mythic, you can start from there :)

[@FILNAT2011]

Good video ,but would all so help if you told us where to get the equipment from

[@cRPGBro]

For a lot of good Item Guides, please check out my Best Items Playlist: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZm1loyCbdZ4mpo

[@boriskurik7196]

Can you verify that Crusader's Edge auto-confirms critical hits? There's nothing about that in the description of the spell or in the description of the bane effect. Maybe you are mixing it up with "Bless Weapon"'s effect?

[@cRPGBro]

I did mix that part up with Bless Weapon, apologies for that!

[@boriskurik7196]

​@@cRPGBro Still a great spell though. It's a bit sad that you can't extend either of these spells to 24hours, I feel like Seelah can spare a few mythic levels for Enduring Spells. But the weapon effects fall off after 1min/level even if you got both of the mythic feats T_T Note: Crusader's edge icon will show for 24 hours, but that only applied to nauseated effect I believe, you lose bane and anything else that applies to the weapon after 1minute/level.

[@AkhanKhoumal]

Hello, thanks for the amazing build. I wonder is it okay to take the teamwork feat later ? If i take seize the moment at level 1, i can’t use it because none of my companions have it too

[@cRPGBro]

And thank you for the comment Also, Sure thing! You can certainly take it later, and pick something else like Improved Initiative earlier (which is always useful) or another feat of your choice.

[@a37n31]

Around which charterer level do you unlock mythic level 1 to access second mystery?

[@cRPGBro]

It's pretty early, should be either at 5 if you rush for it, or 6 if you do all Chapter 1 content. So basically, 5-6.

[@ronank.6608]

Hey, would this build also work with aasimar? keeping with the angel vibe?

[@dirtydan1652]

I may have missed it, but how should I lvl my wolf 🐺?

[@cRPGBro]

Hi there, I cover it all here on my Pet Guide 🐶 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXnPhKyNnbKbr6M

[@jhonrock2386]

I finished the game yesterday but I only got 9 mythic ranks, that last one within the final dungeon. I completed all the side quests (in act 5) which supposed would unlock the final mythic rank (before the one within the last dungeon) but I did not got it. What I did wrong?

[@cRPGBro]

Hello there, I can't really say what could have gone wrong. Usually the only way not to achieve Max Mythic Ranks is if you missed your Chapter 5 Mythic Quest, which can happen in some Mythic Paths. Otherwise the last Mythic Rank is only gained seconds before the final boss.

[@JohnDoe-il4dz]

25:42 - "bonus to initiative after scoring a critical hit" but doesn't initiative only roll once at the start of a fight?

[@cRPGBro]

Yeah, so I have to say I also don't really understand that part of the weapon myself! As far as I'm aware, INI is really only rolled once at the start of battle, unless this can somehow make the enemy act slower than their "true" INI roll for the subsequent rounds which I find doubtful. The other bonuses are great though.

[@TeriiTeri]

Hey, it's me again! I've been having a bit of trouble with my playthrough in the early and mid game. Do you have any tips on how to handle combat in the game while leveling up to the storm of justice power spike?

[@cRPGBro]

Hello again! I'm just waiting for them to fix Mounted Charge feat to start an early game on Unfair tips. But basically, you really need to properly buff your Dog/pets. Also, if you are on Hard/Unfair, then I also recommend Protective Luck + Chant to extend it on your tanks before battle starts. Cam can have both by level 4. Ideally during the early game you will want Nenio, Woljif (or in my case a Skald merc) spamming the Grease spell, because it really helps with enemy management. Another very powerful strategy you can do is to set auto pause: enemy sighted, then right as the game pauses when spotting an enemy, having your characters Charge out of battle to catch them flatfooted + get a free hit/attack. What difficulty are you playing at and which party members?

[@TeriiTeri]

@@cRPGBro I'm playing on Hard at the moment but I really want to play on Unfair. My party consists of, at the moment, Angel Oracle, Camellia, Seelah, Daeran, Sosiel, Arueshalae & 4 pets, using all your builds for these characters. All currently at Level 12.

[@cRPGBro]

@Kuronae At level 12 you are sure to have a much better time on both Hard & Unfair than early game. I believe what you are really missing is an Arcane caster. I recommend trading Daeran (Sosiel is basically already providing most of what Daeran can do) for Woljif or Nenio, preferably Woljif. Low level arcane buffs make a massive difference: Haste, Blur, Heroism to name a few. I recommend having Woljif as 3 Scoundrel and rest into Vivisectionist for now (I will post a build guide for him but don't have much time this week). Woljif as Vivi with Infusion Discovery will be able to cast Haste which Angel doesn't get access to and is one of the best buffs. Get him Abundant Casting for more level 1-3 slots and a ton of Hastes. He can also cast Animal Aspect Gorilla for +4 Pet Trip meaning even more knockdowns, and False Life for temp HP to all characters. Also, are you casting Aegis of the Faithful on your pets/tanks? It makes a massive difference. Cam can take care of the animal buffs and Stoneskin Communal + True Seeing Communal. Have Camellia use Protective Luck + Chant to boost your pets chances to avoid attacks. Against bosses and really tough battles, be sure to have her cast Fortune Hex + Chant on everyone before battle starts as well. Are you casting Crusader's Edge on your pets and every melee character? Also, remember you can use Aru's Ranger Bond ability BEFORE battle starts for more AB/damage to everyone without spending an action in battle.

[@TeriiTeri]

@@cRPGBro Thank you, these tips will be very helpful! I think I will go with your Skald mercenary build? That should work, right?

[@cRPGBro]

@@TeriiTeri Yep, without a doubt. Skald will provide amazing support that you team is lacking at the moment, both from rage powers (so more AC and AB) and also amazing arcane support. Be sure to cast the Good Hope spell which is lIke party wide Heroism on steroids! Also, remember you can get the Devouring Lust Metamagic Rod in Chapter 3 from Crusade Battles to auto maximize both Bolt + Storm of Justice thus highly increasing their damage.

[@kman2384]

Do you have any suggestion for a pure inquisitor angel build?

[@danielcook8480]

Hi I have 1 question about this build , I’m planning on making an angle oracle and going 19 oracle and 1 monk . My question is weapon choice , originally I was going to got power attack and mythic power attack with a two handed weapon but I don’t have much options due to proficiency . So would you say it would be better to get scimitar and shield like you or take a background for grave singer / dip paladin for martial proficiency . My only issue with scimitar and shield is that at I’m pretty sure there is angel spell that gives shield bonus and also power attack doesn’t scale as well with one handed . Sorry if these questions are stupid but I’m new to planning my own builds.

[@cRPGBro]

Hi there, you can use certain Backgrounds to get proficiency with a few different weapon types: Farmer - Scythe, Noble - Greatsword + Longsword, Mercenary - Longspear. Remember, you can two hand 1H weapons: for example, if you have just a Scimitar equipped, but nothing on your offhand (so no shield), the Scimitar will be treated as a 2H weapon for increased STR to damage and also more Power Attack damage. I would not dip further - I wouldn't even bother with Monk, actually, because Angel Oracle can already get massive amounts of AC as is (100+ at endgame by just staying pure). Each dip means slower Angel Spell + Oracle ability progression. Also, with this build you can mount your pet at level 1 to have the pet's AC count for physical & ranged attacks. If you pick the Dog/Wolf, you need to cast Reduce Person on yourself to mount at level 1, otherwise wait until level 7 and you can mount them normally. If you pick Horse, you can mount as soon as level 1 by default.

[@danielcook8480]

@@cRPGBro thanks for the help with weapon I think I am just going to use backgrounds and 2 handed wield a scimitar . My only issue with mounts is with legendary proportions , so so should I just go pure and use mounts in the early game and by the time I get legendary proportions I will have enough ac that not taking scaled fist won’t matter ?

[@cRPGBro]

@@danielcook8480 Legendary Proportions does have a nice boost to AC and also DR. I find that's it's often not needed on mounted characters though, because pet + rider damage can be very strong even without size boosts. I prefer to leave it for characters without mount that also fight with 2H weapons.

[@mclovin4974]

Is this a good build for beginner? just looking for a build for my first time playthrough

[@cRPGBro]

Definitely! Angel Oracle or Cleric are one of the strongest builds. However, for a first timer, especially if you aren't used to the mechanics, this is my preferred Beginner's Guide: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYmYm2CGo8l3jas Note that you can respec out of the Hunter at the end of Chapter 2 , pick Angel Mythic and then Oracle or Cleric just fine!

[@sangvinhun]

when do you give companions the team feats ?

[@cRPGBro]

Everyone that is going into melee should get Outflank at level 7, including pets. This is the most important one Teamwork wise, but you can also go for Shake it Off only if you have the space.

[@Ganjamuffins]

Hello, I'm trying this build at the moment and I'm enjoying, when do we add our Charisma modifier to our armor class though? I seem to have missed that.

[@cRPGBro]

Hey there! Glad to hear you are enjoying the build. CHA to AC comes at level 15 for this build with the Nature's Whispers Revelation. The reason is simple, I was not tanking with the Angel Oracle, but with the pet(s) instead, so I delayed it until around Chapter 4. You can, of course, pick it earlier if you so desire.

[@Ganjamuffins]

@@cRPGBro do you suggest to give heavy barding to the wolf? I love that he trips almost every enemy but he feels kinda squishy at core

[@cRPGBro]

@@Ganjamuffins Nope, Armor for pets is not really needed at all. Refer to the buffing section at 17:30 in my Pet Guide here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXnPhKyNnbKbr6M to know what buffs to cast. It is possible to reach very good amounts of AC with pets so that they can easily tank for you. As a matter of fact, in all my runs, including Unfair, I have my pets tank for me. For the early game, Barkskin + Mage Armor alone is ~6 AC and long lasting. Not to mention Shield of Faith, Cat's Grace, Magical Vestment and so on.

[@abidhalzim]

Great advices here, keep going! 2 questions tho: 1. You said Oracle spends most of the time mounted, yet all your gameplay shots show Oracle enlarged. So how is it with mounting really? 2. What other weapon choices would you suggest? Would Oracle benefit from reach? Or reach weapon selection is meh compared to scimitar?

[@cRPGBro]

Thank you! 1. Mounted is something to do up to Chapter 3. After that you will be spamming Angel spells basically so there isn't much point in remaining mounted (and casting spells while mounted can cause mount to stay still or you to take Attacks of Opportunity if close to the enemy with reach). 2. If you are mounted, then reach doesn't have much of a point as enemies will target pet AC mostly. Scimitars are a favorite of mine because not only do they have very high crit range, there's also some pretty great scimitars in game.

[@a37n31]

How do you take advantage of Archmage Armor since Oracle cannot cast Mage Armor spell?

[@cRPGBro]

For that, all you have to do is consume a Mage Armor potion, or use a Mage Armor scroll on your character, as Oracles have high CHA for Use Magic Device.

[@quickpawmaud]

Why did you go for scimitar instead of Greatswords for that special one you mentioned? You can get proficiency from a background Leader pretty sure.

[@cRPGBro]

Scimitars have higher Critical range, ending up at 15-20 instead of 17-20 (Greatswords). More Criticals means more attacks from Teamwork feats such as Outflank. There are also more powerful enchanted Scimitars in the game that you can find as loot : kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZDHq6x7r72rl6M

[@quickpawmaud]

@@cRPGBro sweet, also which companions would you recommend I bring with me? I am using all your builds. First playthrough. Already way too many animal companions with a horse, a dog, and a wolf 😆 everyone gets stuck in melee. Maybe I wil respec late game for Greatswords. Once I get that specific one.

[@cRPGBro]

@@quickpawmaud I recommend you follow my best Story Party Members Guide here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/maizinyXoaqsgrM Ideally you want Seelah, Cam (or Ember) and Sosiel.

[@quickpawmaud]

@@cRPGBro not sure about Camellia just because she is evil. I might use Ember instead. Seelah and Sosiel seem good for an Angel playthrough though. I also want to bring Arueshalae.

[@cRPGBro]

@@quickpawmaud Angel Oracle + Seelah + Sosiel + Ember + Aru is a very solid party! I'd use a Skald merc for last slot or you can use another story member.

[@rmr1754]

How did you get 100+ temp HP? Also do you get the final revelation from battle?

[@janner919]

Why both seize the moment and outflank? Doesn't outflank make seize the moment redundant?

[@cRPGBro]

From my experience, I only get massive Attacks of Opportunity chains by having both, and they have a somewhat similar but also different way of working. I have heard some people saying they don't work together, though.

[@janner919]

@@cRPGBro Thanks for the answer.

[@cuspofexposure8242]

You didn't show the battle final revelation. Do you get both?

[@cRPGBro]

I believe so, because I actually have both on my Daeran's character sheet, both from Life & Nature for example.

[@cuspofexposure8242]

@@cRPGBro if that is so. Oracle and sorcerer are the 2 most powerful classes imo. Do you know about the way to get 5 bloodlines at once. I would love to see a legend sorcerer/oracle build.

[@confficker]

Hi, how good would be Angel Mythic Path on Gendarme Charge build? I was watching your build and I know that you would use Trickster, but let's say that I would want to use Angel instead. Is it worth it on Hard DC?

[@cRPGBro]

It's not bad, but I wouldn't say it's optimal for Hard. Because as a non merged Angel, it will take forever for you to get the good Angel spells as a Gendarme. But you can still use Angel Sword early on at least, and the Halo passive. For Gendarme, Trickster & Demon are by far the best.

[@confficker]

@@cRPGBro Thanks man

[@Vertanius]

What's your opinion on Oracle vs Cleric, being able to bring another guarded hearth worth it over oracle?

[@cRPGBro]

One Cleric is enough for Domain Purposes. Oracle has the advantage of spontaneous casting and other neat stuff like Revelations allowing you to get CHA to AC, free feats, 3x Initiative Rolls. Cleric Angel is also very strong though because of how powerful Angel is. Both can get pets which is always great. The good thing about Cleric Angel is that you can completely bypass the need to have a cleric party member as you'll already be one, so the slot is left for something else of your liking.

[@smoklares9791]

Can you make normal magus, angel, longsword build?

[@MosCraciun777]

I was thinking of doing the two achievements, last azlanti and the 50 rest one with the angel oracle on core. What do you think of going enduring asap so you rest less/and never be caught w/o buffs on the world map for example ?

[@cRPGBro]

Last Azlanti is certainly very viable on Core for Angel Oracle. Be careful with certain companion quests like Greybor vs the Dragon because if the companion dies, it's also a game over, so be sure to get Last Stand on all of them early on just in case! 50 rest one I'd say is rather troublesome, because of how long the game is and the many times you'll be travelling between map areas meaning even 24h buffs will fade, unless you skip a lot of optional content and just rush main quest. I recommend something like Kineticist main character for 50 rest, because they can eventually handle entire enemy groups and as they have infinite uses of their abilities, they don't need to rest at all!

[@MosCraciun777]

@@cRPGBro I have 0 knowledge with the Kineticist, it seems to complex seeing as I never played one. Do you have a build for it ?

[@cRPGBro]

@@MosCraciun777 It is indeed a very complex class, I plan on making a build about it for Azata or Demon Path soon!

[@MosCraciun777]

@@cRPGBro Big thumbs up ! :)

[@Alacod19]

After getting to Mythic 3 path angel this guide becomes inconsistent. I'm not sure if it's the result of you respeccing but for the ones following the guide in real time, We get a ton of spell selection options per mythic level. Your guide has no spell selection on the mythic levels so this is confusing. It's also a lot of spells, not like one or two spells it's like 4-6 each level, Currently my oracle has 4 full action bars will spells on them. I barely even use a fraction of them... This is a bit excessive no?

[@samuel.andermatt]

Do you think the extra feat and skill point is worth the 2 exttra ability points you would get from an angelkin aasimar (very thematic) or a kindred raised half elf?

[@cRPGBro]

I suppose I just like going with Humans because of the early extra feat, but you can certainly go with the ones you talked about for the extra +CHA. Do note that the most powerful Angel spells don't really care for DC/saves as far as damage, which will always be full. However, you can get +1 more AC or so from CHA to AC.

[@datriadx18]

Can anyone vouch for this guide still being relevant for Enhanced Edition? I ask because I know there's been a few changes to game since this guide was released. I'm set on playing Oracle Angel but I'm no Pathfinder expert so I'm trying to find a good guide to use as a base.

[@awesome27677]

that ac jeesus

[@cRPGBro]

Angels truly OP 😁

[@RealAshen]

Isn't the ring of evasion redundant with your oracle curse? What other ring would you recommend once you get evasion from the curse?

[@cRPGBro]

Hi there, the Powerless Prophecy Curse should give Uncanny Dodge, which is not the same as Evasion. Uncanny Dodge is to prevent you from being sneak attacked or caught flat flooted mostly. Evasion is for zero damage on a successful save against Reflex spells. But you can use other rings such as Red Salamander for free Fire Spells, there's also an Ice version.

[@samuel.andermatt]

Given that quite some of the spells are buffs, would it make sense to first go for enduring spells if going for an achievement like sadistic game design, where you do not want to rest too often?

[@cRPGBro]

Certainly. After all, 24h buffs mean a highly reduce rest counter. However, do note that your 24h buffs will expire anyways when traveling through the world map because it's usually 10+ hours before some of them. So if you're going for Sadistic Game Design I would also cut out a lot of side quest areas and focus mostly on Main Quest progression. This will also result in way less rests. Basically, I would save this achievement for replays, unless you want to miss out on a lot of content.

[@KKKuma]

May I ask about Dazzling Display and Shatter Defense? Can I use it with Power Attack/Pirana Attack and Vital Strike or Arcane Strike stuff? I have so many of those active attack but I don't know which can be used with which

[@cRPGBro]

Dazzling Display by default requires a full round action to use, meaning it cannot be used with Swift Actions such as Arcane Strike. Power Attack & Piranha Strike are modals, they don't really take an action to use, you just turn them on or off.

[@KKKuma]

@@cRPGBro So there is no point of taking power attack or piranha strike either when I am going to take Vital strike which is superior as they cannot be used at the same time?

[@cRPGBro]

@@KKKuma It's important to check if the feat/ability calls for an action (Standard, Free, Swift, Full Round). Power Attack is simply a modal ability, it doesn't take an action to activate. Vital Strike takes a standard action. It will work with Power Attack for more damage.

[@bsloan1023]

Any reason you couldn’t take horse?

[@cRPGBro]

Horse & Black Horse should definitely be viable for a Nature Revelation Oracle, together with Wolf!

[@basileusfang811]

one of the strongest builds out there due to its versatility. Tbh, angel is just so broken in terms of gameplay power.

[@cRPGBro]

It sure is! It's also somewhat amusing because some Angel spells feel a lot better than Lich (but Lich is also very powerful).

[@paulkim1297]

Just out of curiosity, how would you turn this more into a caster? Taking out the teamwork feats?

[@cRPGBro]

You won't really need teamwork feats besides Shake it Off if you are going full caster. The problem is early game, before the Angel merge at end of Chapter 2, there won't be much you can do casting wise besides buffing & healing. Most early game and non mythic damage spells are very, very disappointing and unsuited for the multi elemental DR, high SR demons type enemies. And by the time you get good ones like Hellfire Ray, your Angel Oracle will already have Bolt of Justice, so there's no point in casting Hellfire Ray or bothering with Spell Penetration feats or Ascendant Element for example.

[@zergy55]

I don't understand something, how are you getting a revelation at lvl 8? Is it because you took the nature mystery first? I'm doing an angel oracle build too but I took battle first and nature 2nd and I'm not getting a revelation at level 8?

[@cRPGBro]

Hi there, the Revelation at 07:02 comes at level 7 as with the normal Oracle Revelation progression.

[@JaxBastion]

ok so, for RP reasons.. i love the Paladin.. so how would this look if i took 3 lvls in Divine Guardian from lvls 1-3 for Divine troth? ( i love it so much) by the end you would still be sitting at 27 lvls of oracle spell levels. I'm playin on core diff. i know oracle spells will be delayed but i mean.... that's not tooo bad once angel pumps it up right?

[@cRPGBro]

The problem is you won't get Level 10 Angel Spells unless you get 28 CL at least, so you can only multiclass away from Oracle 2 times. And trust me, the lv10 Angel Mythic spells are REALLY good, including the best party wide buff in the game and even a SELF REVIVE buff! Also, there are ways of getting main Paladin abilities on Angel Oracle: Bestow Grace adds Oracle CHA mod to saves, and you can have Seelah cast it. THEN, if you are LG Oracle, you can also cast the Bestow Grace of Champion on yourself for double the effect 😀

[@JaxBastion]

@@cRPGBro oh wow.. so the point is to get the angel spells not the oracle ones... wow.. ok so im mainly going for the melee side. this still the build to go for yeah? and im guessing the range of weapons opens up now since no more elemental barrage?

[@cRPGBro]

@@JaxBastion Yeah for melee this is still amazing because Angel Oracle gets super powerful buffs to increase melee power. Weapons wise, if you want the best criticals, then Grave Singer Greataxe would be best to get Improved Critical at Chapter 3. But you can go with other weapons too, the fun part about Angel buffs is that they're so strong any weapon can work 😀 Lastly, the more pure class your Oracle, the faster you'll get the OP Angel spells too!

[@njohan100]

The conjuration feats is for better DC on the prone from bolts?

[@cRPGBro]

Yes, and also the AC, AB, Save debuff against most demons.

[@ThePhoenixQueen1124]

Is this build still viable? I'm really wanting to play a caster OracleAngel

[@lobsterfool6002]

Does it matter much how I build my wolf? Anyone got suggestions on Feats?

[@cRPGBro]

Hi there, Wolf build does actually matter as it can highly increase their power. I have a Build Guide for Pets here, with a special section for both Dog & Wolf Build in the beginning: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXnPhKyNnbKbr6M

[@lobsterfool6002]

@@cRPGBro Thank you for directing me there*!

[@inconvenientfacts58]

I was thinking Oracle Angel with Battle Life for a kinda RP thematic build. I see however that Nature/Battle Oracles are much more common. Is it because they are viable for Unfair, and Nature gives the pet and the CHA to AC? Would a Battle Life Oracle work, especially if Daeran and Sosiel are not in the party?

[@cRPGBro]

It's mostly because Nature + Battle offer by far the most useful Revelations, especially Nature. Life isn't really needed as at most it offers good spell selection (which you can learn by level up anyways especially as Merged Angel). Battle + Life can certainly work, but frankly I'd much rather Nature + Life if you truly Life, because the pet, CHA to AC, plus pet aura save bonuses are simply way too good.

[@inconvenientfacts58]

@@cRPGBro Thanks for the feedback!

[@OBIONEBARRONI]

Can you give me a solo build on this class.

[@njohan100]

Do you even need the rest of the team with oracle angle?

[@cRPGBro]

Well, they do help as like most builds you only really become a powerhouse starting from around mid Chapter 3+ For Angel, it is basically when you get access to Storm of Justice which should be around Mythic Rank 4 in Chapter 3, although preferably Chapter 4 as well because you can get a Greater Quicken Rod there for 2x Storm of Justice/round.

[@steakdriven]

Chapter 4 is absolutely PAINFUL without Greater Enduring spells.

[@cRPGBro]

Indeed! The best part is that since it's just a big massive area without the time spent traveling through the worldmap, you can just rely on 24h spells for around MOST of the content there!

[@jasonskeans3327]

@@cRPGBro or just go back to your base periodically. and rest.

[@spellandshield]

I really don't like dumping Wisdom with the absurd number of Will Saves you need to make.

[@cRPGBro]

I tend to prefer no negative scores on creation as well, but as far as Wisdom, Angel Oracle gets a massive boost to saves thanks to all the CHA synergy! Plus downright immunity to most mind affecting effects eventually.

[@spellandshield]

@@cRPGBro I agree but chapter 2 Vescavor swarms say hello...it is why I actually tend to have a cleric with Liberation with me because of level 8 ability.

[@EvillDoll]

would this will work on the latest release ?

[@cRPGBro]

Yep, Angel is still at full power! Only difference is you'll get normal spells somewhat slower as spontaneous caster (Oracle), HOWEVER, the Mythic Angel Spells are still gained at the same speed and they are the ones you want to get fast and will be spamming the most.

[@EvillDoll]

thanks a lot for the reply mate! What companions(non mercs) would you recommend :) ?

[@cRPGBro]

@@EvillDoll My core story member party is explained in this video here, with also some other choices: kzbin.info/www/bejne/maizinyXoaqsgrM

[@zarddin9561]

What if this Oracle build would get 1 lvl of Scaled Fist and 2 lvls of Paladin - that would mean that every +2 CHA will not only give you more spells and +1 AC but also another +1 AC and +1 to all saves. You could just have 7 DEX and don't care at all.

[@cRPGBro]

You can indeed get these class dips for way higher saves and AC - I just don't find it necessary because as Angel Oracle we already get massive AC & Saves by default. Another issue is that I'm not a fan of the 3 level delay in spellcasting, as Angel Oracle we can get the super powerful Angel spells very early. It's certainly a viable option, however!

[@zarddin9561]

@@cRPGBro Oracle got a spell that gives the same bonus as level 2 Paladin to saving throws so you can always go for Oracle 19/Scaled Fist 1 and I think level 4 would be the best moment to pick that 1 monk level.