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Pathfinder: WotR - Mythic Paths Ranked

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Mortismal Gaming

Mortismal Gaming

Күн бұрын

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@HeWhoShams
@HeWhoShams Ай бұрын
I hope I can love anything as much as Mortismal loves Pathfinder: WOTR
@jpalmer9896
@jpalmer9896 Ай бұрын
Have a baby
@HeWhoShams
@HeWhoShams Ай бұрын
@@jpalmer9896 Idk.. I still don't think it could compare to his love for WoTR
@twicecookedporkins3235
@twicecookedporkins3235 Ай бұрын
Love yourself.
@Mystra
@Mystra Ай бұрын
​@@HeWhoShams😂
@Valevwong
@Valevwong Ай бұрын
Hear hear!
@Zerahi
@Zerahi Ай бұрын
The lich is about the friends we "Made" along the way.
@toffeecrisp2146
@toffeecrisp2146 Ай бұрын
Sure, we had to kill them first, but how else can you "make friends" 😂
@naseweis6105
@naseweis6105 Ай бұрын
nice one 😁 i just wanted more
@enoughothis
@enoughothis Ай бұрын
Necromancy is just recycling. Black is the new green
@davincisama
@davincisama Ай бұрын
Cosmic Judge Dredd is the most bad ass description ever. Sign me up.
@Herr_Affe
@Herr_Affe Ай бұрын
Bah. Aeon is more of janitor with OCD.
@toffeecrisp2146
@toffeecrisp2146 Ай бұрын
It doesn't feel like that most of the time. It largely feels like angry school teacher gets ignored by pupils.
@GreenKnight2001
@GreenKnight2001 Ай бұрын
That would have been awesome if it was the case 😅😅
@42GELO42
@42GELO42 Ай бұрын
The true Aeon ending has the most badass and uncompromising dialog option in any crpg I have ever played: [Cease to exist]
@toffeecrisp2146
@toffeecrisp2146 Ай бұрын
It's just a pity, that half of the game has our Aeon character looking on impotently when they witness lawlessness and call it out. Beyond the handful of scripted moments, I felt like I was playing, disapproving school teacher simulator.
@acrab6527
@acrab6527 Ай бұрын
@@toffeecrisp2146 making the injustice never happen to begin with is better than correcting it afterwards.
@toffeecrisp2146
@toffeecrisp2146 Ай бұрын
@acrab6527 sure, but it takes too long to get to that point. In the meantime, npc's figuratively tell you where to shove it 🤣
@soulofmen
@soulofmen Ай бұрын
BG3 lets you challenge a God. Doesnt end well as you simply die in dialog by being non-existed
@acrab6527
@acrab6527 Ай бұрын
@@toffeecrisp2146 did you... fail the Aeon route? You start judging people as soon as you unlock the mythic path and rewrite history at least once per act.
@JohnnyTightIips
@JohnnyTightIips Ай бұрын
When I first played I was the angel path, and I thought that the herald of the inheritor was set up specifically for that path, and I thought to myself "wow they did a different herald and story for EACH path" but I just happened to pick the most thematically appropriate one for the set part of the story :D
@timm8998
@timm8998 Ай бұрын
Angel is kind of the 'default' path.
@dilhancongar-pn1nd
@dilhancongar-pn1nd 18 күн бұрын
Wow they guy didn’t figure out by himself that the leader of a holy crusade would eventually end up being an angel accompanied by angels
@toniviskari417
@toniviskari417 Ай бұрын
Currently replaying Wrath with Azata and completely agreed that the Devil option there constantly seems... Bizarre? Like Early Sunset is there just suggesting you do non-Azata stuff basically just because and doesn't even bother learning the song. It would have almost made more sense to have that temptation on the Angel path and try to have those whispers pulling you towards the strict law aspect of that approach.
@tric5122
@tric5122 Ай бұрын
100% agree devil should be tempting angle over azata. It's your classic tempting, they even talk about it in game with Aru trying to give up her demon life to be good and how angles always seem to fall, so why can't evil become good?
@Cassandra112
@Cassandra112 Ай бұрын
yeah, the man does not make a good case for why to swap. It might make some sense for Chaotic Azata, who is getting kids killed, etc. more noticeable downsides for going too chaotic. Riots, parties, lack of discipline in ranks getting troops killed, people refusing to pay taxes, deserters, innocents getting killed, etc. so, Sunset is just way too obvious with his totally unazata things he's saying. If would have worked better if he was pretending to be an Angel or Archon. Maybe from Abadar. god of cities, law, merchants and wealth. He could then argue lawful arguments, and again, point out any negative side effect to any decision you make. Then in the end, bring it together and argue you are doing just as much damage as the devils, and how you need rigid structure to fix things. And here a "true" azata, would have made choices to reign in the chaos and do more good then harm in the first place, while a chaotic azata might actually see their mistakes, and it would make some sense for them to do a full 180 swap.
@Kanjiimufu
@Kanjiimufu Ай бұрын
Azata was my first playtrough, because Chaotic Good just resonates with me, and I kinda regret it. Mostly because, I can't really see me playing anything else. I wanted to try Lich but quickly lost interest in being evil, Trickster still got an "Maybe" for my next playtrough... but I can't really imagine not being able to tell Aivu that she is my greatest Treasure.
@MRudim
@MRudim Ай бұрын
I got the same problem as well.. Aivu spoils every other playthrough.
@captainmike900
@captainmike900 Ай бұрын
i feel this so much. just got to act 4 as a lich and it is really hard to push onward. i will finish it, just going to play Azata again next😅
@salatsultan397
@salatsultan397 Ай бұрын
2:15 omg the Swarm's interaction with Aivu is probaly the most evil thing you can do in the game :O
@Schlumpsha
@Schlumpsha Ай бұрын
I mean, Legend used to kill Aivu as well. Sadly that interaction when switching paths was patched out.
@icarue993
@icarue993 Ай бұрын
@@Schlumpsha I played Golden Dragon at release, and I thought I would get to keep Aivu. But once I became GD, she just disappears. I reload a save and completed the game as a full azata. But it felt weird that there was no interaction with her. Maybe they patch it out, otherwise it feels very weird that other paths get more interaction.
@KairoStark
@KairoStark Ай бұрын
@@icarue993 Once I saw that I would lose Aivu I just re-loaded the game and kept going Azata instead of becoming GD. Me being a dragon wasnt worth losing her.
@goransekulic3671
@goransekulic3671 Ай бұрын
It is. The entire Mythic is quite monstrous. But it's over the top. Lich also does all manner of Evil, horrible, heinous things. And hits much harder imo.
@Hsneen
@Hsneen Ай бұрын
One of the few games that allowed me to play as a lich, which automatically make it my number 1 mythic path. Few of the things that made me like this path are, The fact throughout the the game I kept trying to be lawful evil playing as a lich, I had to justify my choices as I am saving people by dealing with demons using already dead soldiers, in return I am not making more casualities. In addition, people had to do shining crusade against you at the end if you stay in your castle after dealing with the demons. Which was a satisfying end to me.
@TheWayOfPencil
@TheWayOfPencil Ай бұрын
You should try dominions 6.
@Hsneen
@Hsneen Ай бұрын
@@TheWayOfPencil wow just checked it on steam, never heard of this game but definitely interesting find! Thank you!!
@Kepesk
@Kepesk Ай бұрын
​@@TheWayOfPencilThanks for the recommendation. I'll probably pick this up.
@TheWayOfPencil
@TheWayOfPencil Ай бұрын
@@Hsneen You are welcome!
@Mikester88
@Mikester88 Ай бұрын
The last play through i started was a lich run, was very excited but i had some pretty game and immersion breaking bugs and glitches that made it hard to push trough the demon city. Got stuck somewhere and never went back to solve it
@ducky36F
@ducky36F Ай бұрын
Yeah gold dragon is my favorite, I actually really enjoyed the process you go through to transform and actually being able to be a true dragon is very cool.
@Locutusofborg41
@Locutusofborg41 Ай бұрын
Have to agree. Not as much content as some other paths but what's there is pretty good. (I am a little biased since I aways wanted to have one of my campaigns end that way)
@ramiel7666
@ramiel7666 Ай бұрын
I still think Angel path is the best, making Deskari shit itself in fear and burning random hells with holy fire was awesome!
@progamasEjogos
@progamasEjogos Ай бұрын
And it is the closest path that follows the canon tabletop adventure, i liked it even if I like more evil, not full evil, the grayzone, the angel is badass
@Poktor314
@Poktor314 Ай бұрын
I’ve completely bg3, pathfinder wotr and I’m pretty much done rogue trader. You’ve made me see the CRPG side of life and I thank you for it Mortym!!
@ddunt7782
@ddunt7782 Ай бұрын
Can we get recomended class/build for each mythic path. It would be helpfull for begginers
@tortoiseoflegends4466
@tortoiseoflegends4466 Ай бұрын
The tricky part is that there are so many builds and most paths have a ton of synergy with several classes, as well as many of the strongest builds making the game so easy there's basically 0 challenge. With how customisable the difficulty is too, it really is just down to what class you personally prefer to roleplay as.
@alexoelkers2292
@alexoelkers2292 Ай бұрын
​@@tortoiseoflegends4466 Thats very true but there are definetely some classes that synergize better than others, (Angels and Oracles, Demons and Bloodragers) and you could easily make a video that chooses just one combination with the caveat that there are probably countless different combinations.
@kao123456654
@kao123456654 Ай бұрын
literally just google it.
@Fr0st1989
@Fr0st1989 Ай бұрын
I remember at one point the Aeon is facing an army of demons in Drezen and essentialy declares them all illegal immigrants and deports them all back to the Abyss. And you're right about the Angel path being the most fleshed out. It even has voice acting specific to it.
@bengunn9670
@bengunn9670 Ай бұрын
We have to build an interplanar wall! -- Aeon, probably
@spellandshield
@spellandshield Ай бұрын
Such a strange take; Lich is AMAZING for Melee as well; so many abilities that boost it as well as spells such as Vampiric Blade. I respectively disagree.
@Schlumpsha
@Schlumpsha Ай бұрын
Agreed. Lich offers all class types something. Even Kineticists and Alchemist: both classes that are left in the dirt by other mythic paths in terms of synergy.
@dargoz8
@dargoz8 Ай бұрын
I made a lich "reaper" build that wears robes and uses a scythe. I beat the game on core with this build
@AaronQ64
@AaronQ64 Ай бұрын
I personally didnt like it as a melee class. I get what he is saying it felt like I was missing out on a lot and should have been something other than a death knight.
@spellandshield
@spellandshield Ай бұрын
@@AaronQ64 Try a monk; amazing synergy!
@AaronQ64
@AaronQ64 Ай бұрын
@spellandshield I got far enough in that I probably wont do lich again but thanks for the recommendation. Im far more interested in story content anyway.
@johnnythedark3090
@johnnythedark3090 Ай бұрын
Aeon ending is definetly my favourite ending in the game especially the true aeon (with romanceable arushel). But stopping stauton and the swarm guy from becoming evil, saving terendelev and defeating arch devil - this path definietly have the most "power moments"
@miavaughn2393
@miavaughn2393 25 күн бұрын
Yeah, it’s among the worst mid game, and in between the major story moments, but the best FOR those major story moments. I’d put it next to angel and demon (I disagree with him about azata) probably 3rd as angel and demon are just more cohesive and great all the way through.
@Ohmargod
@Ohmargod Ай бұрын
My only finished playthrough was the Lich (game is way too long for me). Started with a Wizard, was very intrigued by the Lich mythic path. But roleplay-wise, I couldn't let go. Becoming a full Lich felt so wrong. So thank you game for the Legend mythic path. Going full caster with merged Lich Spellbook into full fighter was a blast. Literally. And I really like the sentiment of a Wizard searching for the ultimate power, only to discover that his humanity was more important to him. So he picks up the sword, something completely new to him, realizes his wasted talents, fights with sword and sorcery against hell itself and then just dies as a human.
@rizrizriz
@rizrizriz Ай бұрын
True aeon ending made me (a grown up man) cry.
@PokerJeezus
@PokerJeezus Ай бұрын
May you walk in wisdom!
@bbdiabo
@bbdiabo Ай бұрын
may you swarm that walks
@sharangcool
@sharangcool Ай бұрын
No u
@bubbly_ghost
@bubbly_ghost Ай бұрын
Wow, Aeon in the middle. I thought Aeon was peak or maybe 2nd due to it beig a really good story/one of the paths that actually felt complete
@TuanHoang-zy7of
@TuanHoang-zy7of Ай бұрын
Angel mechanics, especially if you merge spells, are so disgustingly strong that I have to give it number one.
@sharangcool
@sharangcool Ай бұрын
How many times in games could you call AN ORBITAL BOMBARDMENT FROM THE HEAVENS ABOVE!
@alexanderbakulin8836
@alexanderbakulin8836 Ай бұрын
it's strong mid-game. But overall, legend is ten heads above everything else. You can make builds like 20 titan fighter/20 gendarme that is just one-shotting all the bosses on unfair (while also having dozen attacks per turn and being unkillable). Trickster is also stronger than angel or lich late-game
@leathermage
@leathermage Ай бұрын
Correction: Angel is strong ONLY if you go merged spellbook because outside of spells this path gives you only halo and sword abilities. And both of them are weakest abilities of all mythic classes. Angel as a path outside of merging (fighters, barbarians, kinetics...) is Aeon level of power. Which isn't much.
@JohnDoe-il4dz
@JohnDoe-il4dz Ай бұрын
@@alexanderbakulin8836 lmao, good luck one-shotting Areelu.
@alexanderbakulin8836
@alexanderbakulin8836 Ай бұрын
​@@JohnDoe-il4dzyou don't need luck. Every hit with such build is a critical (you take trickster for level 3 mythic path and then just stacking crit), she won't survive one charge from a 40 level gendarme with double lances. I exactly one-shotted her on my recent legend playthrough
@polishlinks
@polishlinks Ай бұрын
Absolutely agree with Azata. It is so content rich from the floating base, follower recruitment, healing the land, and everything with Aivu. People often overlook the value of Aivu when comparing power levels, as well as the value of sharing teamwork feats and giving your whole party extra feat points as a result. It's not just about outflank, allied spellcaster and tandem trip for all your pets are really nice to have. An Azata individual is not as strong as Lich or Angel, but I'd argue a team with Azata can be just as strong as a Lich or Angel team.
@flibbernodgets7018
@flibbernodgets7018 Ай бұрын
If only CG as expressed in Pathfinder didn't produce the most insufferable characters imaginable...
@spahghettiboi4150
@spahghettiboi4150 Ай бұрын
All the paths are dank imo, but Aeon easily has the best theme. Shit made me feel like i was going to the astral plane
@EerieV23
@EerieV23 Ай бұрын
I played Azata to Chapter 5 and it was amazing. Currently doing a witch lich and I enjoy it to, but I am currently in Chapter 3.
@dddd-is9dh
@dddd-is9dh 26 күн бұрын
Aeon is the best for me, because, unlike other paths, there is just... You. No angels behind, no demons to serve you, no non-party friends to cheer you up, no swarm to devour for you. Only you and your raw power of comsic judge to make things right.
@miavaughn2393
@miavaughn2393 25 күн бұрын
I know, it’s hilarious that your “guide” is yourself in the mirror, unlike every other mythic path where it’s someone connected to the path that “guides” you.
@TheRetifox
@TheRetifox Ай бұрын
While Legend is not the best Myhtic path, it has the best theme. Master of my own fate is one of my favourite ost in RPG's
@Falkinger
@Falkinger Ай бұрын
Azata is best because you can halfass through Act 5 not doing several companion quests, no puzzles, get several sliders that you are a lazy crusader and still unlock the 0,5% sadistic game design achievement which I did not get on Aeon when I probably 100% the playthrough.
@StardustSynchron
@StardustSynchron Ай бұрын
I finally beat the game for the first time an Azata all the way through was super fun. I love Aivu and the whole freedom aspect of the path :)
@klm7641
@klm7641 Ай бұрын
I am currently in Act 3 of my second playthrough and I LOVE hearing u talk about the game :)
@Nihoolious
@Nihoolious Ай бұрын
The evil paths are so satisfying in this game. Demon's amazing rise to power story, Lich's power over life and death of their soldiers and companions, Devil being the necessary evil in that you dont lose your allies and Swarm being the strongest build ive ever created in game (Lich melee into Swarm = huge AC with a massive attack range and lifesteal x5 with clones)
@user-cy7ej4yr6w
@user-cy7ej4yr6w Ай бұрын
Still waiting for Gold Dragon reworked, need quest and ability buff seriously. if ...there's still possibility.
@Idlemage
@Idlemage Ай бұрын
I wish it was reworked but I think they're done with the game after this dlc
@user-cy7ej4yr6w
@user-cy7ej4yr6w Ай бұрын
@@Idlemage free patching maybe? I remember the dev mentioned something about GD back in months.
@nikolaatanackovic7217
@nikolaatanackovic7217 Ай бұрын
They did said GD is up for a mechanical rework, if it will come out or get canceled we don't know
@Herr_Affe
@Herr_Affe Ай бұрын
What annoys me the most is that you basically set up everything you need in Act 3, then wait until 5 to be able to actually play the path. It's like they thought of making it an earlier mythic (considering how little variety that is, that would've been preferable), then changed their mind without doing much to pad the holes left. I frankly hate the idea of "late game Mythic Paths" in general. It's a worthless gimmick. Where's the logic in switching from Trickster to Gold Dragon, theme/narrative-wise? Azata to Devil? Lich to Legend?
@user-cy7ej4yr6w
@user-cy7ej4yr6w Ай бұрын
@@Herr_Affe Agree. Gold Dragon is one of the paths added by reaching goal in Kickstarter, so I think they fail to make it a whole path in the end. Kind of sad, since I've been hyped to GD even before the game is released.
@Evanz111
@Evanz111 Ай бұрын
Some good news! The games for PS+ extra in July have leaked and Pathfinder: WotR is on there! Finally I’ll get a chance to play it for myself, as I’m sure many others will too (hopefully directing even more people to your channel!)
@genehenson8851
@genehenson8851 Ай бұрын
From a story and interest perspective, it's a fair list. I personally love Lich and can't really stand Azata sillyness, but all of the points that you made are fair.
@DBinitiate
@DBinitiate 22 күн бұрын
There is another thing the Aeon gets: it completely bypasses many mind-affecting narrative effects. Like the Lilitu running the Ten-Thousand Delights trying to read your mind or blasting it. An Aeon simply no-sells it.
@dragondog7443
@dragondog7443 Ай бұрын
Love your takes, man. Especially your focus on the roleplay/thematic writing of each, as opposed to just power mechanics! Azata was my first path, so love seeing it get some love. Now, back to my dhampir angel. May you wander in wisdom!
@Tommy_The_Gun
@Tommy_The_Gun Ай бұрын
I kinda agree with the Gold Dragon not being super usefull. The main problem I have with this mythic path is that it is a "late game" mythic path. You unlock Dragon Form very late at the final act, even if you rush it just to do what is required for the quest (yes, u actually can go to the Ineluctable Prison & get the item & not finish the dungeon and return later). The issue is that there are simply other sources of draconic transformations that can be unlocked as early as level 12 or 13 if I remember correctly. Gold Dragon should have either weaker Dragon form unlocked earlier or maybe some story levels (like a dream sequence) when you control a dragon character. Story & lore wise it is great, but the concept was kinda wasted as its potential was not utilized & It just does not feel that impactful. It does not even have that many dialogue options that would be meaningful if you think about it. Gold Dragon should be kinda like "a Jedi" that can affect & alter what other NPCs are doing to the point that they may even change their alignment (like for example Camellia & her ending). I mean, I can convince the final boss that what they are doing is wrong & show them the way to do good stuff, but not a Companion ?!
@Zuginator
@Zuginator Ай бұрын
Lich makes an amazing MONK. I build a Dragon Monk with a lvl of Sorc with AC = CHA. Eventually your unarmed attacks HEAL you with spells.
@chocopuddingcup83
@chocopuddingcup83 Ай бұрын
Azata, Angel, and Lich are definitely my favorites. Azata specifically because I enjoy bards and bard fits PERFECTLY with the entire Azata theme, as does a feyspeaker druid (which I also enjoy).
@dominiccenteno1233
@dominiccenteno1233 Ай бұрын
Legend roleplay ftw!
@stefeeNRG
@stefeeNRG Ай бұрын
I gotta bring myself and start a brand new playtrough as a Lich... I was always very interested in that type of roleplay
@dumbgames4933
@dumbgames4933 Ай бұрын
Appreciate the spoiler-lite summaries! Definitely has me thinking differently about playing Demon if I ever do another playthrough
@toniviskari417
@toniviskari417 Ай бұрын
Personal favorites are Angel and Azata as I usually go for the good alignments with Dragon currently still missing that content and never just having found the fun combination for Legend. Still I really like the alternative paths as those choices add a richness to the gameplay with Trickster being the only one that really doesn't even conceptually land for me. Funnily I think the Trickster path is the victim of what I am critical of in the Mythic path implementation as there is really one way to be on that path from a narrative perspective. This is understandable as resources are limited, but if you are a demon, you are forced to be evil and so forth. Which becomes a really big issue with the Trickster as they are this chaotic force, but because of that it ends up self-fulfilling chaos instead of really allowing the player to define a force for what.
@jigzdollosa2018
@jigzdollosa2018 3 күн бұрын
thanks mortismal for introducing me to this game.. more power
@sircarlos3707
@sircarlos3707 Ай бұрын
Demon was my first choice in my first playthrough, and i dont regret it. Turning things upside down, as tou said, was its charm, and i had a blast playing it. It was only a shame i didnt find out at the time that if i accepted Nocticula's gift it would be 3x harder to beat her, so i just became her second in comand instead. Demonic teleportation was a remarkable skill for me, because i remember well that in the fight against Jerrybeth (dont remember the name exactly) had a very high AC, so i just spammed Demonic teleportation until he died lol.
@metsunie
@metsunie Ай бұрын
Same, and the funniest part about it when I did my demon campaign is that I sacrificed myself at the end, and Noticula was so against it that she revived you in the abyss at her side and I found that so cool as well lol
@zagadkazakafresko5409
@zagadkazakafresko5409 Ай бұрын
Lich is great spellcaster , but it isn't bad at melee either. Probably the only mythic path that fits in every built except divine casters
@progamasEjogos
@progamasEjogos Ай бұрын
The negative levels on hit is stupid strong btw, lich fits everyone, except good people
@felipebisi4145
@felipebisi4145 Ай бұрын
I mean aeon can cast a black hole through his/her eyes that to me is already a 1 to me A pity we will never get a DLC with a all out Brawl between the Mythic Paths
@EldenJohn75
@EldenJohn75 Ай бұрын
You’ve been spoiling us this week my man
@darryllyle5250
@darryllyle5250 Ай бұрын
My gripe as far as the Mythic Paths go is that there isn't a really neutral option. Trickster is more leaning into Chaos rather than neutrality. Aeon is all about the Law. Where is the Path for people who don't care about good or evil? Like Druids for example. They can merge with Angel, but Angel doesn't fit Druids. Azata is about healing the land, which is close to what you would be looking for with a Druid, but all the other stuff is Goodie Goodie. Not about balance. I guess the closest thing to the true Neutral path would be Legend. However, going Legend irks me because I really want to stick it to Iomedae lol.
@miavaughn2393
@miavaughn2393 25 күн бұрын
Yeah, most of the good/neutral paths prove iomedae wrong. And it’s especially hateable, as she WAS a mortal who became a goddess. Same situation but she thinks it’s oh so different because she took a test lmao.
@OldIronJohnson
@OldIronJohnson 20 күн бұрын
I just want a good martial path that's not Trickster and not in act 5.
@GodOfOrphans
@GodOfOrphans Ай бұрын
I finished my first playthrough earlier this year, went Sylvan Sorcerer into Merged Lich and decided to get the SDG achievement too because why not and suceeded I might add. I absolutely loved the roleplaying aspect as I was going for a character who values love and friendship but ultimately values power more and in the end when pushed to choose between them will pick power everytime. The allure of "true freedom" to do whatever I desire take what I want slay whomever I want and take whatever I want was my raison d'etre and while I would prefer to take my friends to the top with me if they don't want in or get in the way so be it, actually achieving the Secret Ending with that character was so perfect for that as even the gods themselves could no longer bind me and the characters I managed to keep along the way ascended with me while those who betrayed their commander or who were neccessary sacrifices for power did not, making it simultaneously one of the most glorious and satisfying victories in any interactive story while simultaneously feeling hollow as I grew to miss the comrades and lovers that I betrayed along the way. I sorta modeled the character off of Bloody Harry and was shocked at how perfectly it fit the roleplaying of the lich path, and all that's just story praise. Mechanically it's an absolute blast too 6 unique party members, 2 of which are probably the best preset characters in the game, the Corrupt Magic spell and all the undead immunities oh it was so much fun to roll up on the infamous Playful Darkness and just delete it in 3 turns and then to do the same to all the high and mighty demon lords and bosses and watch them be rendered powerless before me, and despite being the best power fantasy I've ever experienced it still made me work for it, I couldn't sleepwalk through much if any encounters despite how one sided they ended up being and I had to work for that level of power especially in the early game. I'm looking forward to trying the other paths especially the more wholesome ones as a palette cleanser but that Lich playthrough set the bar so high I wonder if any of them can actually match it. I kinda wanna do merged Oracle/Angel next for being OP for an Unfair playthrough but that's all mechanical I haven't really settled on how to role play around that, I do have an idea for a Rob Lucci inspired inquisitor of Asmodeus Aeon into Devil though but that's prolly a little too much evil after just finishing a Lich playthrough and too underpowered for an Unfair or Last Azlanti run as I like to get all the challenge stipulations done first when completing RPGs so that the lower difficulties in future cleanup or for fun playthroughs feel more like the reward of unlocking god mode for completing everything the game has to offer challenge wise.
@johnnycandles8675
@johnnycandles8675 Ай бұрын
As a person who has 300+ hours in WotR and have yet to finish chapter 3, I tend to go Azata myself. Problem is I keep seeing a new build and I restart the game. For real, this time, I am going to play all the way through as the Azata because I want to see how the story differs when I play as a lich my 2nd time through.
@coconutologist
@coconutologist Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I think you went beyond video essay with this, and made some gaming culture. Onward to 400k. All glory to the algorithm.
@Jandor1
@Jandor1 Ай бұрын
The ranking I wanted! Thank you, Mortismal!
@henrychurch6062
@henrychurch6062 Ай бұрын
I really appreciate that they took the time to make paths like Swarm actually viable, not only because it's going against the story of the campaign, but because it requires so many work arounds to how the game is intended to be played.
@Herr_Affe
@Herr_Affe 7 күн бұрын
Angel was a disappointment for me. When you unlock the path, you get one option to protect and heal - which I assumed would lead into a sort of redeemer Angel path, focused on healing, protecting, and defensively buffing allies - as well as another option to instead lash out at your enemies, which I assumed would lead into a sort of "Avenging Angel" path (i.e. great value Ragathiel), focused on debuffing and destroying enemies, maybe with a "Holy Wrath" feature working similarly to Rage, to further boost martial effectiveness. Instead, I got 2 slightly different narrative paths (mechanically identical, as far as I can tell), one Neutral Good, the other Lawful, with a bunch of spells that only something like a Cleric could make good use of, and little of note besides that. The fact they actually bring up Ragathiel in Act 4 only made me saltier.
@scienceontheright
@scienceontheright Ай бұрын
I am doing my first play-through as Azata, but now I definitely want to go thru again as Lich and Demon. Thank you for the video!
@Dryblas002
@Dryblas002 Ай бұрын
I'm playing WOTR for the first time now, so perfect timing with these videos
@vyxzuw768
@vyxzuw768 Ай бұрын
I'd say that Swarm, Trickster and Legend are all like a player in a tabletop game that wants to go against the story. Swarm is the MurderHobo, Trickster is the Troll who is just doing whatever, and the Legend is the one who takes the game seriously, but doesn't want to follow the story you have planned (but still makes an interesting story.) Azata is like your kid sibling playing.
@TheLocalDisasterTourGuide
@TheLocalDisasterTourGuide Ай бұрын
In my first play through, I was leaning Azata, but when I came to the actual choice, it started talking about the joy of a child taking their first steps... And my son was almost 1 at the time, so that hit me like a truck! I fell hard for that choice, and never regretted it. Also, when I saw the Flesh Markets for the first time, I wanted to attack SO BADLY. But, I restrained myself... and then they kidnapped Aivu, and never have I so enthusiastically accepted a fight! I was giddy taking down that market! Azata path was a treat to play!
@Hainbane
@Hainbane Ай бұрын
Angel and Lich top 2 for me. Book merging and buffs to strong to ignore.
@Javors_UndeathAscendant
@Javors_UndeathAscendant 23 күн бұрын
I actually really love swarm myself. It is just such a fun and unique path. It is a very rewarding experience for me. I have to figure out the one guy build x6 and get to be super OP in late game
@PotrovNivanski
@PotrovNivanski Ай бұрын
I finished this game with most mythic paths, except Azata. Started a playthrough with fir that yesterday. So far i tend to regularly return to this game to play another mythic path. Awesome storytelling especially taking account the quantum or story arcs that are implemented
@Himewolf398
@Himewolf398 Ай бұрын
Gold dragon is my favorite. Druid MC with merged spellbook and becoming a holy dragon was super fun and I also like the fact that you can be a chaotic neutral demon instead of a 'for the evulz' cartoon villain.
@mattyryon
@mattyryon 22 күн бұрын
You should retitle the video as "What I like narratively about the Mythic Paths"
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming 21 күн бұрын
No
@Zero_Zone.
@Zero_Zone. Ай бұрын
A spot-on ranked list of the mythic paths.
@lobo2367
@lobo2367 Ай бұрын
People give swarm a lot of crap for being edgy, but Lich does the same shit, except it's more mechanically powerful and less buggy... and it's usually in the top 2 of all rank lists
@Schlumpsha
@Schlumpsha Ай бұрын
Swarm scores as the top for me: no other path nets you a whole alternate game chapter, with you playing as the literal antagonist! Demon or Lich are small fries in comparison. Only have two real gripes with it: - your clones don't get their copies of class/archetype pet companions (Bladebound being the exception, because its flying black blade more akin to a summon,). - the Swarm's crusade management is destined to fail no matter what you do. No zerg rushing swarms of creepy crawlies devouring crusaders and demons alike.
@fillosof66689
@fillosof66689 Ай бұрын
The reason for the first issue is quite amusing (and fitting, if you think about it): the swarm clones are coded as if they are pets. Makes me wonder if you can cheese things with pet buffing gear.
@Schlumpsha
@Schlumpsha Ай бұрын
But seriously, the swarm already divides itself to form 5 clones. It's no stretch of the imagination to hypothetically divide some more and mimic animal companions out of insect clouds instead. Animals using the Swarm overlay would look darn good methinks.
@Elliott13
@Elliott13 Ай бұрын
IMHO, the Angel path had my favourite story, theme, roleplay, and gameplay mechanics/power
@herflik3
@herflik3 Ай бұрын
Well damn, I've been waiting to play the game for the first time for quite some time, decided i'll finally start playing next weekend while going in completely blind with an evil mofo so Swarm that walks seemed like a perfect fit. Sad to hear it's the worst of the mythic paths as it looks very cool just for the roleplaying aspect alone. Should I still give it a go? I plan on starting on the normal dificulty.
@progamasEjogos
@progamasEjogos Ай бұрын
Give it a shot, it is a pure evil, no manipupaltions, no intrigues just causing chaos and destruction, it is why i don't like it, cause u lose the npcs interactions, but if it is your taste give it a shot
@sergejserstinskij6032
@sergejserstinskij6032 Ай бұрын
Despite narrative is not so great, True Aeon has the best ending slides by far for my taste. Was disappointed with Azata. Angel/Demon story has a quality as well.
@19Runner88
@19Runner88 26 күн бұрын
Doing my first playthrough on ps5. Your vids are so helpful!
@Cyber1zed
@Cyber1zed Ай бұрын
Man I love the aeon theme and concept, but actually going around judging people just didn't work for me. Going to random people and starting conversations with "I SEE YOU'VE BROKEN THE LAW" just felt like I was the most antisocial person ever.
@roman-270
@roman-270 Ай бұрын
Azata at first place is genuinely insane. Like I know these are just your personal rankings but hot damn dude
@SuperKickpuncher
@SuperKickpuncher Ай бұрын
Can you please make a video of CRPG list from easiest to hardest to get into, kinda like learning curve, which I think WOTR will be on top
@armelior4610
@armelior4610 Ай бұрын
As someone who haven't played yet and a bit overwhelmed by the choices for builds already, this mostly-spoiler-free video is real useful to get a rough idea what to expect. But to be honest I'm probably gonna pick gold dragon anyway because my 1st playthrough is always good-aligned and I love me some dragons...
@Blackbeard069
@Blackbeard069 Ай бұрын
Let's not forget you can romance Nocticula in the Demon path.
@stephenchurch1784
@stephenchurch1784 Ай бұрын
I'm going legend with my next run just because I've always wanted to play a mystic theurge but I've never wanted to give up the spells needed to do so
@TruthHunterTeen
@TruthHunterTeen 7 күн бұрын
Aron is actually my least favorite for one reason alone... It completely steals Arue's story from her, and prevents her from ascending, or even attempting to become not evil. Which is a crime against ME, and hence the aeon breaks it's own thing. Arue deserves a chance and the path steals it.
@cryamistellimek9184
@cryamistellimek9184 Ай бұрын
From what I heard before I played I thought I would hate Azata during my first playthrough but it was the only decent arcane option for good aligned people. It turned out to be one of my favorite runs outside of dealing with the free crusaders.
@stupnevroman
@stupnevroman Ай бұрын
Alright, mate, you do sound convincing, Azata it is then. Still not sure if it will be more thematic and fun than my first playthrough as human-cavalier/Angel. I called it Winded Hussar.
@JohnnyTightIips
@JohnnyTightIips Ай бұрын
WHEN THE WINDED HUSSARS ARRIVED PUFFING DOWN THE MOUNTAINSIDE OUT OF BREATH THEY TURNED THE TIDE
@anonj.9440
@anonj.9440 Ай бұрын
I'm usually a story first, character build second type of player. So this list is very much appreciated. I wish I could play a good demon though since I've heard how good the story is, but oh well.
@b.benjamineriksson6030
@b.benjamineriksson6030 Ай бұрын
I just finished with Trickster and I really loved it. First play-through.
@ilejovcevski79
@ilejovcevski79 Ай бұрын
Last stand was really the only mythic power that i would take over any other, and probably influenced my original game play most. Soloing demons and bosses toe to toe, with nothing but your weapon and shield in your arms, really fulfilled my dreams of epic character.
@kerrzUSR
@kerrzUSR Ай бұрын
Aeon is my favourite and fufills a fantasy that no other game does. I also love playing a rage filled Demon, then having a redemption arc into overly self righteous Golden Dragon.
@parzivalvolarus9281
@parzivalvolarus9281 Ай бұрын
cRPG bro did one of these, ranked Azata much lower - and failed to even mention Life Bonding Friendship in his mechanical assessment. While it might not be important for every party - it can be an exceptionally powerful superpower - freeing up tons of teamwork feat slots for your party. It was at this point that I pretty much wrote off cRPG bro as probably just another KZbin copy pasting stuff into video format that he likely doesn’t fully understand. Thanks for putting out great WoTR content!
@spahghettiboi4150
@spahghettiboi4150 Ай бұрын
17:59 The guitar they put in for the theme for this one is amazing
@Schlumpsha
@Schlumpsha Ай бұрын
Demon getting a metal theme is pure chef's kiss
@sjoerddz
@sjoerddz Ай бұрын
the aeon time travel stuff is what makes it awesome honestly. Obvious spoiler: saving staunton and the dragon feels amazing and by saving her you get a cameo enemy from kingmaker!
@boo_
@boo_ Ай бұрын
I personally would place the Lich lower due to it feeling rushed and unfinished in places (maybe it was fixed with updates, haven't played the game in over a year), also the amount of spell you'd get was overwhelming and got tedious to manage. And the Trickster for me is a lot higher, mostly for the reasons you disliked it, also the way it annoyed all the uptight characters was very satisfying.
@Mystra
@Mystra Ай бұрын
My top 3 I have to say are: 1. Demon. 2. Angel 3. Lich. The first two by far are the most involved with the most content. As for Lich, I really like the thematics of it and the Urgathoa dialouge you get is pretty unique. I don't really think any of the paths are bad either. But some are alot better than others imo.
@Kurgosh1
@Kurgosh1 Ай бұрын
Angel is super OP for divine casters. Azata gets me a cute baby dragon. Both of these things are great. The other nice thing about Azata is that the powers work with a wide varieties of builds.
@jmmywyf4lyf
@jmmywyf4lyf Ай бұрын
Mort, As it pertains to Azata and unlocking Devil You mentioned that it was strange that an exotic could end up as the devil's option. I want to say that I was playing a Cavalier of the paw, and an Azata.. As a halfling, I was very chaotic, and mischievous.. Not evil, but lore accurate for a halfling.. Choosing chaotic dialog options apparently opened the devil option.. As its clearly evil, obviously, we killed the devil.. But playing a mischievous, fun loving, chaotic halfling (much like Aivu) is how that happens.. Chaotic good alignment, but making kots of chaotic dialog iptions
@robertgalindo5979
@robertgalindo5979 Ай бұрын
I don't think I myself would put Azata so high up, but damn does it have the single best scene in all of the mythic path content. I'm talking about the slave scene in hell of course.
@desmondleake5672
@desmondleake5672 Ай бұрын
Everything is clear to me now
@maciejkarwacinski7966
@maciejkarwacinski7966 17 күн бұрын
Hi there, Morty. I've gotten into Divinity Original Sin series and have been following you ever since you started making videos about these games. I also got the Pathfinder games but so far Ive spent only a couple of hours in WOTR. I wanted to ask you how do you feel about the non-combat related content of these games. You pay a lot of attention to the character developement in relation to the combat abillities of each mythic path, but i wanted to ask you how do you assess the story and its branching? For me in RPG games combat is fine, but I absolutely love the non combat stuff, the relations, the character dynamics, the decisions you can make that are not related to killing other beings. Kind regards, M
@DrIMNLove
@DrIMNLove Ай бұрын
Feasting on WotR content just in time for my first run of the game!
@markt7177
@markt7177 Ай бұрын
Always great content ❤
@spahghettiboi4150
@spahghettiboi4150 Ай бұрын
8:57 *The Cosmic Balance Intensifies*
@sisyr5615
@sisyr5615 Ай бұрын
My favorite was always Legend. Just because of the power fantasy - you rejecting everyone influencing you and just badassing your way through everything. Simple and a bit silly, maybe, but also incredibly gratifying. Especially as I was rocking a Battle Singer, going into Mutation Warrior upon reaching Legend. Basically a junkie rockstar screaming demons to death whilst dual wielding battle axes. What else could you possibly want?
@matunusdonnerhammer3423
@matunusdonnerhammer3423 Ай бұрын
My first playthrough was gold dragon and while I liked the story and the dragon specific ending, there was one thing that annoyed me little. While you get some useful powers, the best of them only unlock at mythic rank 10, which means you only have them for the final battle. Sure you can use continue using them in Invevitable Access, but in the main game, you only have them for a too short amount of time. As far as classes go, I think Gold Dragon is best suited for arcane spellcasters who don't want to be evil and look like a walking corpse. As far as melee goes I think, even the most powerful dragons can't compete with dogs in Pathfinder. My second playthrough was Azata kineticist, though, if I replay that path, I think a melee class that doesn't otherwise get a mount is the way to go. A permanently hasted swordsaint or titan fighter would certainly be quite powerful.
@someother5512
@someother5512 Ай бұрын
I picked Azata in my first playthrough and will also pick it as my last, meant to be the fun mythic ideal and it is.
@tahjshaunbrooks6722
@tahjshaunbrooks6722 Ай бұрын
We have similar rankings. The idea of the trickster put me off from even attempting it along with the swarm. Demon is my fav but it would've been Devil if you had the chance to get it earlier in the game like Aeon and other Mythic Paths
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