Pathfinder: WotR - The Lord Of Nothing DLC Review

Talking about my experiences with the Lord of Nothing DLC right as it launches. Owlcat Games provided me early access to said DLC. This one brings a stand alone module as well effects on the main campaign, on top of 15 new archetypes.
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[@leul1551]

Finding this channel and discovering all these crpgs that I can play after bg3 has been the highlight of my month

[@ceno10101]

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[@Ocean5ix]

Welcome! I hope you keep finding games you love in the CRPG genre.

[@TheShepherdFilms]

BG 3 is sort of the 1980's crack cocaine, getting people hooked on crpgs...I love it...the world of crpgs is big, and BG 3 just introduced a lot of people to them...to future is looking bright for the genre!

[@t.t6294]

I suggest Pillars of eternity 1-2 (Direct sequel), Tyranny and Wasteland 3

[@gabrielmario7098]

this one "pathfinder wotr" probably the most complex and best crpg currently.

[@Pliznitz]

For anyone curious: You do need the dlc to get the new archetypes.

[@wanderdragon1075]

Mort: “5-10 hours” Everyone else: “10-15 hours, got it.”

[@ayhanfedai5013]

and im 60 hours i really dont understand how people finish theese games that fast

[@mylescasey8914]

​@@ayhanfedai5013Meth

[@dekay1428]

Me, 90 hours

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

Ill be honest, I was never a fan of standalone DLC stories. I greatly prefer adding to my main campaign character rather than learning about some new person I generally don't care about.

[@mitth2311]

Agreed, hope it's like that for Rogue Trader dlcs

[@takkie4064]

eaxctly

[@Darktusken]

i actually like the concept of the side stories, playing a different protag that can affect the main story is interesting conceptually but its far too limited in the owlcat dlc too linear and little to variation of effects and limited consequences on the main campaign so much so that when you have played it once you never feel like going back to it

[@dtt719]

I don’t really mind it in WoTR. After a couple of play throughs the mythic abilities have gotten pretty stale for me. They are so overpowered that by the end of chapter 3 you can easily steam roll the rest of the game no matter the difficulty. Having content without them is a breath of fresh air

[@danylonimko8419]

@@Darktusken I spend 3 hours in character creation. I want DLCs that play along with my work of art of a character

[@jgee6243]

As someone who played BG and BG2, I can't believe I have missed out on Pathfinder and BG3!! I just bought both this weekend and ... OOOF brain overload! LOL thanks for the video and happy gaming!

[@Erkaneil]

I’m really glad that they added stuff to Act 5, some additional content is appreciated.

[@jonsible]

I'll probably never play this game but I enjoy hearing about it.

[@samantha_t99]

Need to find the 600 hours to play it

[@AdamM12590]

i bought it before BG3 but didnt give it a chance - after I beat BG3 i gave it an honest go and its absolutely one of the biggest rpg games ive played and VERY addicting. What makes it stand apart from BG3 is the sheer number of classes andskills you can mix and match. Crusade system could have been implemented better but hey, you can manage armies which is a nice touch in itself. Honestly having as much fun with this game as i did with BG3

[@obba40]

just follow a build for beginning and build off that. The rest is not so important imo. Idk what even the rest is. I played Kingmaker fine without having any idea what is was doing really@@Tunobe86

[@trevorl.4332]

I need to revisit WotR. I have a habit of finding a great RPG that I love, spending a few hundred hours playing it obsessively, and then getting burnt out near the end of the game and never actually finishing the game. That’s what happened with WotR when it first came out, and that is what has been happening lately with BG3. In any case, I will definitely go back to finish WotR, and I’ll play the DLCs, as well (hopefully).

[@Sabamonster]

This expansion was awesome. This combined with Through the Ashes are easily my favorite instalments of WOTR. It was incredibly rewarding to play an entirely different mini-campaign.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Nice review as always!!!

[@akillianat-1073]

Don't forget the new mythic feats! Now wearing armor gives a few buffs in both defense and offense(regill is beyond broken with heavy armor focus-assault) and surprisingly bard classes and magus also got some cool mythic abilities!

[@Supadrumma441]

Yeah it was needed. Heavy armour paled in comparison to robes + feats

[@vindolphin]

In case anyone was wondering it did launch at $12.99

[@fitz394]

Alright! I was waiting for this one!

[@vmachine9]

just what I was looking for thanks!

[@Arxfatal1]

Hey, when should I play Through the Ashes and Lord of Nothing? Back to back as soon as possible or splitting them at different points of the main story?

[@XocoGameplays]

Hello! I know this video is already a bit old, but can someone tell me which ending should I get for the "wild" boss that I will be able to find in my main campaign in the new dungeon? Thanks!

[@austen8718]

What I loved about the different zones you visit to get the shards is each area has a self contained story. You come in, touch their lives, and leave just as fast as you arrived, it's kinda poetic.

[@ethanbarolette3641]

I loved both the DLCs and beat both them in a consecutive run on core, and after the ending I am super excited to fight the new demon lord in my new main campaign

[@TheMikeFive.]

Can you play this with just custom companions or not?

[@danielbona283]

Is the shard mecanic and the android companion a clue that after Rogue Trader Owlcat are gonna do Iron Gods? Because I could see that.

[@oldmanramblingatclouds]

Man, I'd love Iron Gods and/or Skull and Shackles, but between Paizo focusing on PF 2e and Paizo's focus on 1e, losing the rights to Kingmaker as well as the 40K license being a potentially bigger player base, it may be a while.

[@klay3841]

@@oldmanramblingatclouds losing the rights to Kingmaker?

[@EliteBladesGaming]

​@@klay3841They can't release patches for Kingmaker anymore because they lost the rights to their previous publisher.

[@fallometr]

@@klay3841 Owlcats no longer can work on Kingmaker game, unless the publisher hires them to.

[@AncroKT]

@@fallometr This is not correct and has been refuted multiple times by Owlcat on the subreddit. The correct answer is that Owlcat is currently focused on Rogue Trader and has not announced a new Pathfinder game, but they have said repeatedly that they would love to - which strikes me as a very corporate "we don't want to announce anything until we have something ready to announce" way of saying it, especially considering the amount of work they continue to do on Wrath with this giant patch.

[@coconutologist]

Not sure which is more surprising, the dev's conviction to WotR, or yours. Thanks for the video. Onward to 300k. All glory to the algorithm.

[@benjaminwhite2049]

You've convinced me, I'm gonna play through the side story haha. Love the vids

[@TheR6R6R]

Listening to the summary of Lord of Nothing, I can definitely see parallels with POE2's Beast of Winter.

[@lDaniyarl]

What new spells are there besides Meteor Swarm and Blackhole?

[@failedJedi]

Your review literally came out 10 minutes before the release trailer. This man is too fast!

[@ThiagoGraunke]

Man, those are the types of content that I like the most on your channel, Pathfinder! I started to enjoy it more than DnD per say.

[@Deepstinkt]

Is this entirely seperate from the main campaign or is it like the midnight isles?

[@tylerpetersen6226]

What would you say are the best archetypes to be released in this new patch?

[@emptyptr9401]

I am assuming I have to buy the dlc to use the new archetypes in the main game?

[@LuizJambok]

I can only play this dlc if i selected it while creating my character ? Or can i get to play her with other history

[@annmester2740]

Downloading as we speak. This and Rogue trader are my december

[@bionichosh2904]

Friends help me! Keen to play this game but not sure whether I should wait for season pass 2 to wrap up and get a ‘complete edition’ as I like knowing I’m getting the full experience. What do you think? Does it matter with such a meaty CRPG? New sub classes is a pretty big bonus

[@travis3474]

Time for another playthrough this holiday season😂

[@trueNordVPN]

How do you get more than four people on your team? I just played through it with Rekarth, Sendri, Penta, and a Blood Kineticist MC. The blood blasts were cool (and oneshot the nalfeeshnee) and my lack of any melee character was somewhat mitigated with the Slick wild talent. That said, none of the shard powers are useful for a kineticist, so I couldn't spam blood blasts.

[@javiernovoa8756]

Looking forward to seeing what this crazy new boss is

[@dropkoo]

probably the Lord of Nothing

[@acrab6527]

@@dropkoo I hope not. Having a bunch of level 10 dudes kill a demon lord, when the Knight Commander did that for the first time at level 18+ with mythic abilities and the help of another demon lord would be bad.

[@ARMAfuckenGEDDON]

@@acrab6527did you skip the part where he says that boss is added to act 5 of the main game?

[@acrab6527]

@@ARMAfuckenGEDDON Haven't finished the DLC yet, but they never said that. They said your knight commander would "deal with the aftermath of your decisions" Which with the shards corrupting the characters, I assume means we have to kill our party from the DLC, then we can get the DLC items from their corpses. Or that a merchant looted their corpses and sells the DLC items, like Varnhold's Lot. That Falchion, every time you crit, you get another attack, please move that over to the base game.

[@andyhayward1261]

I just finished through the ashes/lord of nothing like the day before yesterday. I found through the ashes very very hard to get into but once I got out of the first part of the module and met sendri I liked it a lot more, and lord of nothing was way way more my speed with the higher levels, better gear and shard abilities allowing you to actually build a pretty powerful party. I’m definitely going to play through lord of nothing again especially since I missed chained darkness and also to experience the different endings

[@Jeffro2510]

I need a small clarificicataion about the save import in act 5 : Is it only possible when you start Act 5 or will you get the import option if you are "midway" through it ? I entered Act 5 last night (still in Drezen just "locked in" the mythic path etc).

[@MortismalGaming]

It'll pop up when you load your game if you have a relevant save file, doesnt matter where you are in the act

[@Jeffro2510]

Music to my ears and thank you for taking the time to reply!@@MortismalGaming

[@thakydd9713]

do you know if penta will be available to use in the main campaign or only in the dlc?

[@MortismalGaming]

Only the DLC

[@HeroSpiderman]

With every vid i see of you, i love the channel more. (Here since wotr)

[@spikememer69420]

You act like Wotr has been out for a decade.

[@acrab6527]

@@spikememer69420 2021 was 70 years ago

[@Make_us_ru]

Hi, nice review! Although I haven’t played the first part of this dlc) Do you plan on making reviews of another dlc for games you played? For example Underrail recently had one.

[@MortismalGaming]

I cover the DLC that seems worthwhile to make a video about

[@endymionsrage]

So would you recommend playing some or this DLC prior to the main campaign, or should I stop the main campaign at some point and play all the DLCs? - Thanks.

[@MortismalGaming]

Through the Ashes happens alongside Act 1, This one can be anytime before or during Act 5, Inevitable Excess happens right before the last boss fight, Midnight Isles can either be done as a mega dungeon in the main campaign or on its own, Last Sarkorians is all in the main campaign

[@theunhappygamer1744]

So I'm a little confused on what he was saying. He said something about once you get through act 5 of the main campaign you can import the characters into the main campaign? But aren't there only 5 acts?

[@shawngillogly6873]

There are 6 Acts. But he said once you get *to* Act 5, this is available.

[@theunhappygamer1744]

@@shawngillogly6873 ah gotcha thanks

[@erikskoog8415]

Good show sir

[@RedDave88]

Can you use your existing save on the main campaign or do you have to start a fresh

[@MortismalGaming]

Yeah

[@artje90]

dwonlading it rn, curious how it is. let's just hope: NO PUZZLES!

[@GoldenMaskedChad]

Time to make a Lich King build with the shard boons I guess

[@generaldane]

I've been meaning to get this game, does it have gamepad support like BG3 and Divinity Original Sins, As I get older I find myself less wanting to play games that requires point and clicking for long periods of time

[@danielday4883]

It has controller support

[@VestigialLung]

I just started WotR and have a character like an hour or two into the main game. Do you happen to have an order of operations recommendation for best experience with this and its precursor DLC? From what you were saying, it sounds like it might be worth doing prior to the main game (or prior to some certain point in the main game anyway)

[@CrissTRG]

not 100% sure but i think is best to play main campaing until you end the prologue or act 1 and the the stand alone dlc and this new one, then continue with main campaing

[@VestigialLung]

@@CrissTRGthanks, I’d gone in planning on doing the main game all the way through (picking up any DLCs that are accessible with your main where they felt appropriate) then doing the side story, so I’d have missed out.

[@AzyYusry]

SO FAST! IT JUST RELEASED YESTERDAY RIGHTTT??

[@davidstewart9788]

Should I play through the ashes first and the Lord of nothing before I play pathfinder wrath of the righteous

[@phoenixfeiren7639]

Story-wise, Through the Ashes should come first, but it offers a different kind of experience from the main game, so I wouldn't recommend starting with it. The ideal route would be to start the main game, beat the prologue, play a bit of chapter 1 and learn the mechanics, then switch to Through the Ashes and beat it. Then you have all the way until Act 5 to beat Lord of Nothing.

[@jweare333]

This looks good. I put 200ish hours in with the base game and 1 or 2 of the first DLC… I’ve been thinking of returning for another play through, and I feel a bit overwhelmed. I wonder if there is a good roadmap of an best order to play through the base game and all of the DLC since some are standalone, but unlock things in the main campaign. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

[@AVeryBoredMouse12312]

prologue of the main game > through the ashes > Chapter 1-4 of main game > Lord of Nothing > Rest of main game > everything else, from my understanding you can do inevitable excess before chapter 2 of the main game to get a few extra OP items, but I really don't think that's worth it outside of unfair runs TBH, mainly because inevitable excess is better after multiple main game runs with different mythic paths that being said midnight isles is great for testing builds in general, so if you don't wanna fuck up a build for the main game, test it there first, since runs usually aren't very long

[@Sabamonster]

As someone who has beaten this game at least a dozen times (1200+ hours), one of which was a Last Azlanti and Unfair - true ascendancy ending run, I personally recommend just playing through the Ashes/Lord of Nothing storyline through it's entirety and then going back and doing the main campaign. As Proton said, you can run Inevitable excess before chapter if you want the items but if not It's probably best to to play it after beating the main game. Midnight Isles, I would personally do while you're playing the main campaign as well. Just makes it easier and you're still getting all the content in the order that it happens chronologically. Or at least in a way that keeps continuity. Well worth the return for another run either way though man - greatest thing about this game is the shear amount of replayability it has due to various different builds, paths, endings, mythic choices, etc, and this is coming from someone who typically doesn't replay games once he's done with them.

[@shinon748]

So play this just before chapter 5? Prologue -> Through the Ashes -> Chapter 1-4 -> Lord of Nothing -> Chapter 5 - Just before Last boss -> Inevitable Excess -> Final Boss. With Midnight Isles at Chapter 3,4,5 as each part opens up for a full chronological play through.

[@blarbybear]

I can't watch the video rn but are the new archetypes available in the main game?

[@MortismalGaming]

Yeah

[@BIGbirdG]

Is there an edition i can buy that just includes everything for xbox x?

[@MortismalGaming]

Not yet

[@T3CHN0M4D]

what's the max level your characters reach in that dlc?

[@rogerkjellstrom3637]

10 he said

[@trueyaldabouth3594]

does the new archttypes work on the main campaign?

[@ustariuswhite477]

Yes, of course

[@donutcounter2260]

I've been playing it for a bit and now I'm sad that Penta is just a DLC companion and not a main campaign one :((

[@ancientartrevived]

I love Pathfinder!

[@obba40]

Im still waiting for them to be finished with everything until i buy the game. Is this the last dlc or are still working on more ?

[@MortismalGaming]

One last one to go

[@michaothaniel7409]

Imo the biggest flaw of wotr is lack of dlc where we can go forward with story. Love your channel.

[@peters6345]

Well I don't think there was much more you could do.. the PC was so massively powerful at the end

[@acrab6527]

You leave the world in every ending, how could they continue the story? Unless you just want to play your companions. (who in many paths are also gone)

[@progamasEjogos]

​@@acrab6527many endings you can stay and rule Drezzen, so it is possible to do a post lvl 20 run

[@michaothaniel7409]

​@@acrab6527 I agree with you friend, i mispelled my thoughts. I mean more dlc with content into main campaign, like last sarkorian/midnight isles dlc. It doesnt have to be at the end, im just not interested in playing those side story dlc along with companions i dont know at all...

[@acrab6527]

That's a shame. They added a bunch of new archetypes for the DLC, and most of them don't get their gimmick until after the DLC is over. They said the witch doesn't get it's pet until 12, right?

[@MortismalGaming]

You can use all of them outside the DLC so its irrelevant

[@IsilionNELE]

Is there any news season 2 will be the final DLC season?

[@fallometr]

While there is no exact answer, the developers said recently that this is most likely the last season, but if the second season pass sells unexpectedly well, they may consider continuing. So far, they are not developing anything beyond the second season.

[@IsilionNELE]

@@fallometr thank you for the info

[@Artemisthemp]

Miss the Story of videos you use to make in the past, especially after watching Kingmaker video

[@MortismalGaming]

They are a ton of work thats why I've only done a few. WotR and BG3 will likely get them eventually but I'm not in a hurry

[@DungeonDiving]

So disappointed I'm out of town for the holiday and can't play this until next week.

[@tommyakesson8858]

Wait. I feel slow today. So. I am about to play this game for the first time. I will make a main character for the base game. Then I can play Trough the ashes with another main character. Then I import that character to this DLC. And then I import THIS DLC to the main game? And the Midnight Isle? That is semi-standalone? You create new characters? How does that fit into the main campaign? I will probably only play this game once. How will I get the most out it? And can you START woth from the ashes. Finish that. Play the main campaign. The switch back to this DLC. So you can add it at Chapter 5?

[@Pliznitz]

You can play Midnight Isles separately or encounter it in a main game play through.

[@fallometr]

First play Prologue of main campaign, then complete Through the Ashes DLC, next continue main campaign till the end of act 4 then stop, start Lord Of Nothing DLC and after finishing it you can continue main story till the end. At least devs said its optimal way. Midnight Isles content can be encountered in several acts of main campaign, basically it's just repetitive clearing dungeons from enemies with a minimum of story, you can skip it or play as standalone game mode.

[@shawngillogly6873]

Time to break out Anya, my Dark Elementalist, again.

[@lalilola3770]

Mort, do you think this will be the last DLC for WotR and Owlcat now will focus just on some bugfixes and divert their main attention on post release for WH40KRT?

[@SirCanuckelhead]

This is dlc 2 out of 3 for season pass 2. After the next one they have said not to expect any more.

[@rowdyroo4808]

I've got the base gane, I think in some sort of bundle recently... still unplayed! BG3 I need to finish 1sf😅 A 10 PHASE BOSS THOUGH 😳😱

[@Reoh0z]

I believe its pronounced SarenBAE

[@MarcoR6]

I need to get into PathFinder! I'll give it another try, the first one was too traumatic.

[@StingrayJay302]

WotR was my first pathfinder game. The mechanics are challenging at first, lots of moving parts, but it is worth learning.

[@portyon]

Yea, give WoTR a try. Kingmaker even tho its a good game its not a good entry for begginers into Pathfinder. Mechanics are not refined and lacks a lot of QoLs the second game has.

[@shahman76]

WOTR will do you just fine as an entry point into Pathfinder and it helps that it’s such a good game. Enjoy.

[@tzoanast1061]

Yeah the combat in these games is downright revolting, dont go in for the combat, everything else is really good tho

[@portyon]

@@tzoanast1061 If real time with pause is too chaotic for you (which can be) try Turn based which can be toggled at any time.

[@craigtrish2011]

I have like, major immersion ocd lol so do you mind me asking when you'd suggest to play TtA and then when to star LoN?

[@MsHojat]

A bit off topic, but as you are a big fan/player of CRPGs and TRPGs, have you ever played the free browser game Caravaneer 2? For what it is (an ultra-indie, free web game) I was amazed at the game and loved it so much. The big downside I had with it was the tedious late game combat when you have really big fights of many enemies (and likely many characters to control as well). A hard issue to fix though, and some people might like the large scale combat, which is certainly rare to ever see in turn-based tactical combat games (probably for good reason though, since it is a downside for me)

[@MortismalGaming]

Cant say I have

[@daheadsmiter2052]

"The Lord of Nothing" basically describes me D:

[@alexisnaranjo]

No new Anime in December? I guess I've been spoiled

[@tomhanks1769]

A darn shame this one isn't really tied to the main story either, was hoping for a dlc that could be played in it's entirety by the character from the basegame.

[@johnnicholas1657]

I loved the beginning of the first one. Survival stuff is so much more immersive

[@Soul3sh]

I found through the ashes very nice because it was different to the main campaign, ditching some of the epic overtones and the superhero vibes of the main story (i found refreshing to play as a bunch of "normies"). I also liked the survival element, and the environmental interactions involving the npcs you saved. I was hoping for something similar with this one, instead i had like a cheap version of the mythic powers, no environmental interactions, no npcs mechanics, and no meaningful final boss fight. the story was a bit meh, and the angel of serenrae a bit useless. I liked penta though, she is very cool. And the new archetypes.

[@partk6788]

$12.99 price confirmed

[@sebastiansochanski]

👌

[@jhonrock2386]

Maaaaaaannnn.... after playing a lot of BG3 and P:WotR at the same time interval, I kinda got to understand the reason behing some changes made on the D&D system, with it's 5th edition. The skill/spell "bloating effect", at the final levels of the characters progression, in the "older systems", becomes freaking ridiculous. Several skills/spells that are the same thing from the low level ones, but with more damage and/or additional effects. Seriously, once you reach end game, managing the action bar in these "old system" games becomes quite a hassle. Indeed, I found it a much better idea, from a gameplay perspective, instead of giving my character a new, stronger, version of an old skill/spell, make the old one become stronger as my character level progresses. I also found quite reasonable the "nerfing" done in the 5th edition on the number of possible active buffs on a character. In the "older systems", that number was ridiculous. In the case of the game P:WotR, you could even make your character portrait disappear because of the amount of buff icons showing at the same time. Also, the time spent casting all these buffs was quite long, which made de process super boring. Some times you would spend more time buffing your party than fighting the enemy... hahaha... But, to be honest, I also found exaggerated the limitation imposed by the 5th edition. I would like see a more "not so much, neither so little" approach. A system that added new effects to the existing spell buffs, as the character's level progresses, would be the ideal IMO. The spell buff that, at level 1, gives one type of buff, at level 1+X starts to give two types of buff, and at level 1+X+X, three types. Of course, all logically related the original spell effect. One simple example: the spell magical armor, while at lower levels it would only increase the AC value of the armor, but at higher levels it could also, on top of giving more AC, reduce the armor check penalty value or give some damage reduction/immunity effect.

[@njohan100]

A bit dissapointed it is a 5 level story. For a standalone, 10 levels seems fitting length

[@jmoney7772]

It starts at 5 and ends at 10

[@SirCanuckelhead]

Can the first dlc was only 5 levels I don’t know why you would expect more

[@njohan100]

@@SirCanuckelhead Because i think the length of this and the other similar dlc is to short. If it is longer, I would gladly pay more to play another great story in the PF setting, but their 5 level DLC is just to short imo.

[@SirCanuckelhead]

@@njohan100 If you play both of them you get your 10 level story.

[@acrab6527]

@@SirCanuckelhead Because they added a bunch of archetypes with the DLC that you can't use in the DLC because they don't get their central gimmick until 12+. And because they already made Beneath the Stolen Lands, and The Midnight Isles, which are both 1-20. And having a non mythic campaign to go along with a mythic campaign to see how different they are would be nice. You forget that demons are supposed to be unstoppable killing machines when you can't ignore their damage resistance/immunities, and you can fight 3 turns after you are killed

[@Greenhead24]

If they make a dlc for gta6 i want a dlc with dozens of mods that turn it into a zombie apocalypse. Ruined cities,a story,groups of bandits

[@TheGronkus]

Gronk!

[@RicardoPM777]

👍👍👏👏

[@onatgz]

free comment.

[@AaronQ64]

So play through ashes, this dlc then the main game.

[@rayclawicefire2503]

I mean if you haven't played the main game yet Definity do that first. Then do the other DLCst if the desire to do another playthrough hits you.

[@AaronQ64]

@rayclawicefire2503 I did a while back. Never finished it but I got fed up with my character and hated that damn spinning demon city but I was starting to play a new non evil campaign then this released so maybe ill do all the dlcs and then roll into a new game with a new good character from one of the new specs they added

[@Llortnerof]

@@AaronQ64 For the demon city, note that the spinning is actually tied to your camera angle. It's not random. It becomes a lot less frustrating once you know how it works.

[@AaronQ64]

@Llortnerof Oh I get it I just find mixed with the pathfinding its an annoying puzzle

[@chad2997]

I really wish Owlcat would do a PF2 game instead of these stand alone DLCs on an old game engine. I know it's unpopular opinion. Everyone loves their super high numbers in PF1, but I'm one of the few who love PF2. I played PF1 since it came out and will always choose it over D&D, and I've got over 400 hours in each of the PF1 CRPGS. Not knocking PF1 at all. I've had great fun with it. It's just that after more than a decade of the gameplay loop of "only choose options that lead to highest numbers," I'm now greatly enjoying the "horizontal progression" of PF2. The numbers may be low, but there's so many more things characters can do and so many more tactical choices. Would love to see it given the WotR or BG3 treatment.

[@That1DogGuy]

27th

[@Trey_Murder]

The base game is already incredibly long by itself. They should have just formed all the DLC into another entire game. It's probably too intertwined

[@maxmach4361]

This review dropped 8 minutes after the official trailer, really Mort?

[@edsasin3237]

2nd

[@sinnithael7707]

First

[@garwynrosser8907]

Rather bold of them to call a DLC lord of nothing. Seems a mite but risky?

[@sodapopinksi667]

Free comment?! Engage

[@ningthegreat]

Forst

[@Vortexdr]

Still no summoner....super disappointing....

[@domagojkersun9630]

Pathfinder has way too many DLC's imo. Best to wait for some ultimate edition imo.

[@rubikscubed6655]

Thank god there’s only 1 left

[@fallometr]

The game is designed for several long walkthroughs, so it's worth waiting only if you don't have free time to try different classes and mythical paths and you plan only 1 complete walkthrough.

[@Questf4Diamond]

oh boi.. i hate how i cant play another crpg after baldurs gate :(( that game is just so good that all else seem bad

[@Etheral101]

Same here. Bought this after BG3 but this game is just overly wordy, voice acting is atrocious and its just clunky.

[@fitzviandraduivenab2790]

I actually have the reverse problem lmao. I played Pathfinder Kingmaker first, then WotR. After the brutal trial of Kingmaker's learning curve, BG3 feels like a baby's first CRPG for me. Doesn't help that the story is mid and my god did they drop the ball on evil playthroughs and the endings. The thing that saved BG3 for me is the gameplay and immersion.

[@acrab6527]

@@fitzviandraduivenab2790 Yeah I liked playing Baldur's Gate 3 once, I never intend to play it again. Nothing will be any different the second time. Meanwhile, 30% of Wrath of the Righteous is different each time just by changing mythic paths.

[@kaidorade1317]

Can’t believe the last dlc is out. I’ll need to do a 2nd playthrough next year

[@BidoofSquad]

Nah there’s one more DLC coming down the line

[@kaidorade1317]

@@BidoofSquad I didn’t know that. Great news!