Pathfinder: WotR - The Best & Worst Archetypes For Each Class

[@ddunt7782]

Can we ask for new beginers builds. It would be nice to have one for each class

[@ddunt7782]

Can we also get build for each mythic path. And also update for beginers guide.

[@dekay1428]

I would love that, and it would take a while since the gear, testing, and compatability "in the field". So I am not confident he will anytime soon.

[@ddunt7782]

​@dekay1428 I understand that this is a monumental task, but he could do a whole series of videos. Focusing on each class showing how to build, mechanics and also items that complement that build. It would get a lot of views.

[@ddunt7782]

Also composition of the team.

[@stevenwoodward5923]

I agree it would be nice, but the time it would take would be enormous This isn't the only game he covers. He works hard to give us content as it is.

[@hiei990]

Didn’t know I missed Mort talking about WoTR classes so much.

[@DrChaos-jb3sp]

I must have spent hours studying his videos in the lead up to Wrath's release. Love that the subclasses never end in this game.

[@warrend2880]

Can never get enough of your Wrath coverage! But it's always dangerous for me to watch these as I get new ideas for yet another startup character 😮

[@captainsmellyparts5579]

I totally relate 😂 I'm not done with my Witch run yet, I shouldn't be here! I want to try a Druid now lol

[@MrJonHimself]

Any chance we can get a fresh video on the Mythic Paths and how they might fit with some of the new classes/types and how they may have been impacted by some of the nerfs/buffs in the recent patch? Love the content.

[@acidburn14145]

Yes plz

[@MortismalGaming]

Possibly, no promises, but it's on my probably list

[@q306005]

Honestly surprised you didn't even mention Primalist when I've heard multiple people claim it's the best archetype in the entire game.

[@lemoultkev]

Primalist is so good, letting you pick and choose between bloodline powers and babarian totems, so you can take (two!) totem every 4 lvl or get your bloodline powers. Getting whatever is best suited for your build when it suits you is pretty sweet. So you might skip a bonus to acid resistance for two totems, but you'll be sure to take your serpentine reach at lvl 12!

[@benjaminthibieroz4155]

what's make it insane is that you can take a mythical ability to have 2 bloodlines... then you gain double feats and double abilities, letting you combine all of the massive bonuses from rage power with bloodline benefits on top of it. By act V, my bloodrager MC could slash bosses to death in 1 turn... Bascially the barbarian, just a lot better in every way.

[@FhargaZ]

It was my pick for my demon play, it was awesome.

[@SpaceVENTING]

I understand that claim for sure but in my experience I've found Instinctual warrior barbarian easier to play on higher difficulties than Primalist. They're essentially two sides of the same coin where as Primalist focuses on the raw damage viability aspect Instinctual warrior is better for defense and hitting concealed Targets.

[@TheNaturalnuke]

@@SpaceVENTINGI’ve had a lot of fun with a Instinctual Warrior/Drunken Monk, very fun

[@fenrirlives2226]

Funniest thing ever is hearing almost all the Archetypes I picked show up as worst options. I love summoning in RPGs as well as damage mitigation classes. It is what it is though! Very informative vid! 😂

[@christophertheofilos1063]

Mort is a good reviewer and gamer, but his opinion isn't always spot on especially when personal bias comes in to play. If you succeeded at your playthrough and had fun that's all that matters

[@MortismalGaming]

Like I said at the beginning, its all fine on normal and the best one is ultimately the one you want to play.

[@fenrirlives2226]

@@MortismalGaming no worries dude! It was more them showing up back to back than anything else! I'm about to do a Mammoth Shifter run soon, so this will help me choose custom party members for Archetypes I never looked at before!

[@b.benjamineriksson6030]

Summonings are good for keeping bosses occupied while you pound on them with archers and tanks.

[@yoursonisold8743]

If you go Azata, pick ascended summons ability and a bunch of other stuff I think you can become a one-person army and really overwhelm enemies. But you really have to commit to summoning completely, which most people dont want to.

[@Omnomface]

Love the vid. To add to the Shifter section, Dragonblood shifter used to be worse than Effigy (Courtesy of what you get being a worse version of what other classes have), but with the latest patch they have been buffed/fixed to actually get a better version.

[@GrimnirLaguz28]

Never played Pathfinder, possibly never will. Am I still gonna watch a 50 minute video from Mort? - Yes.

[@nestorgamer9746]

You are really missing out

[@GrimnirLaguz28]

@@nestorgamer9746 Yeeah, I do know that. I do have the game on the top of the list. Right now just no-lifing Factorio, but will have a go at Pathfinder soon, I have it on my Library already.

[@diogovieira5563]

you are missing anything.

[@КирилКирилов-в1о]

Monster Tactician ain't half bad. Early game summons are a win fight button and even at the end of the game I had Ice Giants caving in skulls at core difficulty, but I go hard in to specializing in to summoning. Losing judgments I don't think is a big deal, because you can easily have too many swift actions to the point fight's don't last long enough for you to activate them. This is especially the case if you go Aeon as it's the best mythic for monster tactician. Personally I think Faith Hunter is the worst. You lose a domain for another swift action on a swift action loaded class.

[@LexxBM]

Divine Hunter (Hunter, not Paladin.) is one of my favourite Archetypes. It allows you to add Cleric Domain spells to your spellbook - that's +2 extra spells per domain per level. Combine this with impossible domain and suddenly you'll have a very broad and customisable spellbook while maintaining your animal companion. Combine with Mythic Trick Lore Religion for even more spells.

[@scienceontheright]

Great video. Thank you for updating this. 13:05 FYI: Gendarme is French so the E is silent at the end.

[@paulmillcamp]

And the E at the beginning sounds kind of like an O in the word "done". French is just different that way 😅

[@Weltallgaia]

Well obviously before. After was al gendarmes and dick stitches lana.

[@A9Wag]

It really stinks seeing all the best archetypes from Kingmaker (it’s the ones that summon or had an animal companion) not scale well in WotR.

[@vivalaglavii6736]

Reminds me of how powerful shut-down builds in BG2 were compared to much worse they are in BG3.

[@spellandshield]

3 level Hunter dip is amazing; permanent sharing of all Team work feats and a nice little boost to your pet!

[@zangatsubankai]

I feel like giving a small shout-out to Inciter Skald. It gives up very little, and lets you share Sneak Attack with your whole party. Since you'd probably only use Skalds on melee heavy parties anyway, this feels really nice to have. It also lets you choose Archetypes without Sneak Attack for other party members (Judge for Inquisitor over Sanctified Slayer being a favorite trade of mine).

[@Ezghiel]

Looked into everything Inciter gets after reading this and *dang*. That’s a lotta cool stuff. Perfect fit for my animal companion-heavy Azata nature playthrough.

[@zangatsubankai]

@@Ezghiel It's pretty nuts, isn't it? I'm pretty happy to have it in the game.

[@Ezghiel]

@@zangatsubankai For real. Only issue I’m having atm is that I have a Skald and a Brown Fur and neither have a companion. I know I can get Bismuth in Act 2, but I was hoping to end up with six animals total.

[@zangatsubankai]

@@Ezghiel I'm not sure if it'd be the most effective option, but you could always dip Sable Marine or Demonslayer.

[@Ezghiel]

@@zangatsubankai True, yeah. Those are both pretty good.

[@Iceblade269]

Primalist not a best pick for Bloodrager? Spicy

[@Rhuowave]

Best archetype: the animal companion one Worst archetype: the one I like probably

[@rasulpl]

Will watch this in couple of months when I'll do a 2nd playthrough.

[@jeremym1647]

Reanimator is not fantastic into lich, the spell books won’t merge.

[@koca987]

It still good pick Lich buff undead also you don't need to merge spell book to be op as lich, look around many have lich build that are not full caster Crpgbro one who have tone of builds.

[@jackakimbo5718]

Not that spell book merging isn't extremely good, but it's not the only powerful way to play a Lich or Angel

[@Wurstbrot03]

Cavalier of the Paw is awesome! I'm currently playing one in my new Azata playthrough after I gave up on my first Angel Cleric in Act3. I just picked it for the name because I wanted something that fits something RP wise for the Azata theme and a Halfling riding a dog + a Succubus fawning over a short king, that is half her size, sounded like a lot of fun. So much better than my first abandoned playthrough.

[@onatgz]

free comment.

[@jasonpauldegraaf]

No love for Wildland Shaman? Full pet progression is very strong for a full divine caster.

[@NotMeButAnother]

Not a big fan of archetypes where you just give up your defining class feature to play essentially another class as a hybrid - Sanctified Slayer feels like more of a Slayer than an Inquisitor and while hybrids can be fun, sometimes when I play an Inquisitor I just want to actually be an Inquisitor.

[@marcosdheleno]

to me, archetypes SHOULD all ditch the defining class feature, for a VARIANT of that archetype. that's what should set them apart. for example, lets say you have a shifter class that is all about transforming. this is the main gimmick of the class. there should be an archetype that isntead of completely shifting, it instead shift parts of your body. other archetypes should focus on shifting on specific monster types. giving you more bonus when you do shift into them, at the cost of only being able to transform into that type. and that's how many of the archetypes here work. they lose something, or limit them. the issue is, they dont offer an equivalent exchange. if you are limiting the class into what it does, you better make something else it does MUCH better. It shouldnt be slightly inferior, or just the same. it should be a massive upgrade to that aspect of the class, since you are sacrificing something core to its identity.

[@Solaxer]

So many classes but you’ll never see 99% of them because of how bad the companion respec is in this game

[@robertsemon1712]

One thing I would like to say is that Steelblood Bloodrager makes for an excellent dip for Arcane casters, because the 1st level feature that eliminates Arcane Spell Failure for Bloodrager spells instead works for ALL Arcane spells in WoTR.

[@seasplitter7388]

Hey dude, thank you for the updated video!!! You're the undisputed goat when it comes to WOTRA

[@InfiniteDarkness7756]

I can't find the reanimater archetype for Alchemist. It doesn't show up for me. Why is that, did the devs change the name or something?

[@InfiniteDarkness7756]

Nevermind. I didn't realise you needed the DLC for it 😅😂

[@ender749]

Perfect timing. I was just thinking about diving back into the game. Maybe this time I'll stick with my choice and finish the game!

[@Syenthros]

I kind of want Owlcat to return to Pathfinder. WotR is *good*, but I find myself missing the more down to earth nature of Kingmaker's story...but it's really hard to return to Kingmaker, since WotR did such a good job upgrading things on a mechanical level.

[@Sneedstein]

Race: human (male). Class: fighter. Simple as

[@HubertTheMad]

I don't have any interest/have never played Pathfinder, but I enjoy listening to your longform videos, and it's extremely satisfying to listen and watch. Hope you are having a great Fourth, and thanks as always for your hard work!

[@darkholyPL]

gendarme= [ˈʒɑːndɑːm] It's French, it means a police officer basically. You can use google translate to hear the pronunciation.

[@lobo2367]

Instinct barb 2, Titan Fighter 9, STR, x2 Glaives Goes online at the end of Act 1 when you start getting stat items/buffs. Works 100% without cheese, but if you want you can get archmage armor with mythic shenanigans. Alternative Forbidden Sauce: DEX, Elf stat variant, Mythic Finesse, x2 Elven curved blades.

[@SpaceVENTING]

Conversely I think the Beast Tamer is fantastic. It isn't as expensive feat wise to make a good summoner with a Beast Tamer cause you get some of the most important stuff for your summons for free when you level up. Beast Tamer and Monster Tactician are two of the only archetypes that make summoning actually viable, on any difficulty, in my humble opinion.

[@Funnyshoot_]

Very happy to see the video ! Love the WOTR content anyway. Little thing because you pointed it out, the Gendarme end with a closed "e" so the end sound is more like "harm" :) I have to make a shout out to my last run and the Titan Fighter. It's gross, Double wielding greatsword with crit on a 17+ (1/5 chance) doing 7 attack base that double strength bonus on damage... it's just nuts. I'm also playing angel and with some basic buffs and good item (the one you get by just playing tho, not hunting for loot), I start at near +60 to hit, with an average of 150-170 damage per hit, and 450 on crit. Currently, with some heaven sword upgrade, I have 8 attacks, and I've delt in a single turn, in the average of 2 to 3000 damage. And that's without adding the Seize the Moment feat that just proc like crazy. It's just ridiculous. And I'm sure that going kitsune to get pounce, and mythic charge could get some even crazier damage.

[@osirisruiz492]

so basically, summoning sucks and companions are op for the most part? so one of the best class/archetypes would be one that doesnt lose much but gains an animal companion?

[@Zetler]

Just starting my game for the first time. Animal companions are awesome. My gendarme cavalier can trivialize most initial encounters because the horse charge just cause mobs to explode.

[@osirisruiz492]

@@Zetler I wonder if it's the same for kingmaker

[@ravenfeeder1892]

For Paladin I'd actually go with the base class. Better than the sub-classes IMO. In fact I have gone with that for my current play-through, currently in Chapter 3.

[@GTChade]

All those classes and archetypes, and they never brought in the Summoner. I'm a bit disappointed.

[@RexCogitans]

On the fun scale, I thought it was hilarious to play a Mad Dog Barbarian Halfling charging into battle on his Mammoth. Next I want to make a fighter who dual wields two handed weapons. Any tips on which weapon to weapon focus in? Maybe (a) build guide (s) for the alternate story line would be useful as well?

[@jw5319]

For your Titan Fighter build, Elven curve blade and fauchard have the best crit ranges (both require exotic proficiency). Elven curve blade looks the best, while fauchard has reach. If you want to be a frontliner, take ECB. If you want to hide behind your tanks, take fauchard. Two notes: First, with the new heavy armor mythic feats, you don't really need to hide behind your tanks, and second, you probably won't want to dual wield your two-handed weapons until Mythic 2, when you can take Mythic Two-Weapon Fighting. Before that, the penalties are a little too high, so you'll probably want a shield in your offhand (or at least a small weapon). [EDIT: Oh, falchion also has a high crit range, but I don't really like the available options, so I tend to overlook it.]

[@countravencrest1500]

Can you do a meme build bloodseeker and blood kineticist legend ?

[@derekmenebroeker4993]

I feel like summons are often slept on because of them being weak compared to the enemies, but... they do also provide crowd control by giving the enemies decoys to soak up attacks while the main cast whales on them.

[@mrbobmv1638]

I made a bard for summoning tons of things and then my mage hastes all of them. They are not bad with a boat load of attacks. Also yer right using them as a mimic beacon is great

[@sinisasub85]

Just what doctor ordered, as I'm preparing to finally start my WotR playthrough. 😎

[@ishiinogo]

thank You for providing videos :) was wondering if its possible to get recommendation oh what mythic path play (I mean order) so it would make most sense, like if I recall You can learn different things going each path or smt like that :) anyway cheers! and good work! :D

[@evrypixelcounts]

It's sad that they didn't port the Spirit Guide oracle archetype from the tabletop. It sacrifices some revelations for the wandering spirit shaman ability, and a hex from the spirit you pick. The spells you get scale with your caster level instead of your class level. That means it would be great to multiclass with. I only recently got into the tabletop, and this is my favorite archetype so far. It's not only really flavorful, but mechanically cool too!

[@tjtj7161]

I wonder if playing BG3 might have helped my understanding of this game now. Maybe I'll dig in again at some point. Initially, I found it too overwhelming and granular, but it might click.

[@bookbagfox]

Just finished my first playthrough on normal and I'm planning to do a second on Core as an Aeon, so this is a ton of help. Thanks!

[@Fenix31799]

I know you don’t super care, but just as an FYI, gendarme is pronounced “john-darm” with a soft J, like in Dijon. It’s French, if that helps

[@SpaceVENTING]

Barbarian is on the whole not as good as bloodrager. But I have found Instinctual warrior easier to play on higher difficulties than even primalist cause of the automatic blindfight progression and stuff. Could just be my personal experience though.

[@El_Cattivo1988]

Cleric Crusader ist really Strong.

[@everett6072]

Cavalier of Pike is definitely the worst cavalier. You give up your mount for a small bonus to longspears. Which is completely useless in no small part because longspears get a bonus when used for mounted charges anyway.

[@paulmillcamp]

I've never even played this game but honestly all this fantasy class info is super interesting

[@neiljopling4693]

Hagbound is oddly a good class for the gold dragon mythic path. As a low BAB, high strength, natural weapon, full caster they get the most benefit from the gold dragon abilities.

[@marcx4293]

No way the video I asked for on the beginning of the end video. Don't know if you did it because of tha but thanks all the same!

[@MortismalGaming]

Well not just you, a lot of people had been asking for one that included the new archetypes etc

[@marcx4293]

@@MortismalGaming Either way you are awesome mate keep up the great work.

[@MidKnightOTC]

I'm surprised no one is looking into bloodrager more. I kinda like it, to be honest! Having fun handicapping myself with an elven spelleater bloodrager 😂

[@SpaceVENTING]

There's still a good case to be picking spirit hunter. Yeah Camellia has it but it's a pretty versatile class. Further more if someone's running a good aligned party there's really decent reason to suggest *spoilers* camellia wouldn't stay in the roster the whole game

[@wafflegay7073]

If you’re ever in the market to make fun companion builds I think that would be really fun. Add a little spice to the 200th play through lol

[@MortismalGaming]

I have a couple out, Nenio and Ember off the top of my head

[@marcosdheleno]

i find it kinda funny how complete opposite to something like neverwinter nights 1 this is. with heavy armor being the best, and companions being atrocious due to the nonsensical shared exp.

[@kylefrid5911]

Is the benefit of Kinetic Knight to use the Kinetic Blade without burn not that good? Seems like it limits your possibilities but takes away the main cost.

[@Diorteaches123]

How do I get into this game ? I got to about level 6 and act 2 but it still hasn’t clicked. Love rogue trader but idk on this one.

[@albaniaalban]

FWIW I think the game really comes into it's own in act 3, but if you aren't into the gane systems and the plot it might just not be the game for you!

[@tric5122]

For the hunter archtype forester, is that archtype meant to be a dip for other pet classes like cavalier? Seems pointless otherwise.

[@Pererro4ever]

Thanks for updating! I'm getting back into wotr and I know a lot of the videos out there are outdated

[@casteanpreswyn7528]

It's interesting how many of the best or worst listed here are the opposite in the pnp version, or that just don't exist in the pnp version.

[@mrbobmv1638]

I went base calv and loving it. Now I wanna try standard bearer and make a AOE buff party

[@MrFilbert28]

Arcane Bomber has got to be the worst archetype in the entire game 4 opposition schools for something an Alchemist can do better 😂

[@braziliantvhd2768]

Can't believe they murdered Grave Singer

[@Laser_Puppies]

I have 350 hours on the game and 0 completed runs 😔 I keep making new characters

[@johnnicholas1657]

So many archetypes, wo many use of viability in a game where all the enemies are demons or undead 🥴

[@Baraz_Red]

I facepalm over the inclusion by Owlcat of some archetypes like the Forester (Hunter) which is a remake of the Ranger, the Arcane Bomber Wizard (sigh), etc.

[@MortismalGaming]

Stuff like Arcane Bomber I think should be cut if they do ever make another Pathfinder title, like I'm all for cool and interesting archetypes but the stuff that is essentially useless really should just be removed to keep the bloat down.

[@mildlyannoyed1]

Now which of the Archetypes makes the prebuffing and preparation before combat go away? Because after 100+ hours I lost interest in doing all the time and stopped playing the game...

[@Alex_reH]

Bubble buff mod. Still have to take time to set up who casts what on who. But so long as your party composition doesn't constantly change, you only have to do that once per new spell level and you're good to go with a click of a button.

[@AudreyandmeAu]

I’ve tried to watch your “beginners” video but it’s 3 hours long… any chance of a condensed version?

[@MortismalGaming]

Its 2 hours and no, not really. I mean the most important parts are the combat and how to cure common ailments section though I would say.

[@TheMorrochben]

hagbound is an archetype that to me feels like it was made for gestalt games. You run hagbound as your second class on say, a titan mauler fighter for those bumps to your str and grab hexes like Iceplant for the bit of added survivability. On its own, I have no idea who would take it lol

[@MortismalGaming]

Ive tried to make use of it, because it seems really cool on the surface, but man I just cant make it work.

[@KingStratzah]

Divine Hound + Demonslayer or should I do Divine Hunter + Demonslayer

[@yoursonisold8743]

Nobody ever talks abhout Witch of the Veil, so I have no idea what the class' general perception is, but it is my favorite Witch archetype and super fun to play.

[@cdunlap0008]

I just started playing this game and full on raw doggin it, so this helps alot

[@Scarlioni]

Go over the pets please.

[@nicolasgonzalez629]

I know you don't have time for new builds but the fact that all build videos are at least a year old and the game had so many changes hurts a lot. maybe a new "five builds for..." ?

[@MortismalGaming]

Thing is most of those builds are still up to date, nothing about them has fundamentally changed, if anything they work even better like the Blood Kineticist one.

[@patricklapinski1526]

Do you need the dlc to access new archetypes? My game doesnt have some of these

[@LeperFriend1837]

Interesting, I've heard beast tamer bard is rather solid on higher difficulties. Though a lot of it is from mythic feats.

[@exus345]

Love warpriest with throwing axes and champion of the faith.

[@Tespri]

Ah so summons are useless? And here I was thinking about starting to play this game... Really waste of time now that I know it.

[@MortismalGaming]

They're fine on normal, especially if you lean into them, but they tend to not be worth the effort on Core and above

[@razvanambarus7905]

Can u do a Titan reach weapon build ? Still have to finish kingmaker once more which is gonna take me forever rn but i'd love to see if a reach weapon titan can work with a lot of cleaves. Just for the fun and old times sake?:) Always wanted to play a fighter but end up going melee/magic or sneak/magic. Blood rager was cool.

[@michaelgrabner8977]

The "e" at the end of Gendarme is silent....it is a French expression and actually a contraction of "gens d´armes" literally basically meaning "men at arms" and that contraction "Gendarme" was originally used exclusively for "mounted troopers/members of the cavallery" in 15 Hundreds France and in that sense it is used in Wrath...in the 17th century it became the term for the French military police and since the 19th century it is the term for the regular French police.

[@Cassandra112]

i really loved Witch of the Veil. in game, its great. if it was tabletop, it would be totally busted. 100% uptime on greater invis, and personal dimension door on tap. unlimited per day. you give up 3 hexes for. shrouded step at 2nd level. invis for rounds equal to int bonus, as a swift action. 8th level, its dimension door+invis. 12th level is dimension door+greater invis. this is incredibly powerful to get your witch into position to cast spells round 1. she can dive forward, and slumber/weird in range. or attack then stealth. and once its g invis, you can dive forward, and cast from invisibility without it breaking. additionally, with fright presence fear aura and the like. close range for the witch with the defense of being invisible. and then, cast dimension door as a swift action every single turn. the mobility is insane. narratively, it does not actually reflect your witch being invisible 100% of the time, cackling.. locks the witch into deception domain, which is angelic aspect, weird, invis, displacement, phan web, confusion. decent spells. access to weird is great.

[@jizamkizam9611]

I like to use toy box to multiclass a bunch and then up the difficulty. I'm currently playing a Dhampir that has a mix of Bloodseeker/Primalist/Sword Saint and Mutation Warrior. Really wanted to go for a deadly vampire swordsman build. Really liking it so far, and some of those new blood abilities in Bloodseeker look awesome! You get a cool mix of the 1 handed sword use with claw and bite attacks, it's quite fun. And I like to headcanon that his mutagens are actually blood vials

[@FAMI-ep9ok]

I´m so glad I watched this video. Titan fighter FINALLY solves my dilemma: Getting "greater dual wielding" on my strength-based true legend/ Tandem executioner going for shield bashing. Time for attempt number 4! Let´s ride that kitten into battle

[@vasilcho]

Pure shifter > any archetype! Unless you're Ulbrig :)

[@dtt719]

If you’re looking at sorcerers I think Sylvan is arguably the most powerful. Animal companions are so busted in this game since they can easily get teamwork feats. You don’t even have to raise their int to qualify just put on a +int headband. For that matter any class or archetype that has access to an animal companion is busted

[@Alex_reH]

Haven't played a Brown Fur as a main but I don't see why it wouldn't be fun. Playing a decently strength based caster who uses magic to get even more swole and tear apart enemies with his great club, and at later levels, becoming a frikin dragon and tearing around in combat. Seems pretty fun to me. You may not be the party's main dps but that's nor a requirement for having fun with an MC.

[@mattjharrisyahoo]

Regarding Summoning - Toybox allows you to control summons, which can make summoning archetypes much more useful. I also use it for Gestalt classing which can make some archetypes that are normally useless very useful when added along with another. Regarding Shamans - I tried the possessed shaman. The wandering skill abilities et. al. didn't work right. Didn't count as class skills etc. It might have been fixed recently but wasn't as of 8 months or so ago.

[@Taranchule]

I ended up rolling Slayer Executioner for my Through the Ashes playthrough (which I'm doing first). For the main campaign I was thinking Paladin, but the presence of Seelah made that redundant. Instead, I'm thinking of going core Cavalier. Lawful Good, Order of the Lion, all that good stuff.

[@direthered1260]

I have been wanting to hop back into WOTR once the dlc was all out... I havent played in like two years, Im nervous with all the fixes to rework my characters, I hope you make some build videos Mort! thanks for your work, within pathfinder and outside of it!

[@Zoze13]

You’re the best. I run an Incense Alchemist and have the ability to prevent friendly fire splash damage. So I think Grenadier is not the only one that gets that. Gonna triple down on how awesome IS is. Their Incense buff is alchemical which is unique and stacks on top of all other buffs. Very useful. And while you could pair them with a bard for tons of buffs, if you only have room for one I prefer an IS for their bomb damage. Touch attacks rule the Unfair day. Cheers.

[@Moosenthusiast]

Yo mort don't sleep on Inciter Skald. loses lore buffs, 2 rage powers (still can get enough using bonus feats) and some worthless songs but gets sneak attack that can be given to your entire party, what's more the inciters' sneak attack bonus feats apply to the whole party too. In martial heavy party you will absolutely delete everything.

[@danieldeanhodge]

I started a Sword Saint playthrough as a result of your first video about 2 weeks ago and I've just started Act Four. It's SO much more fun & more effective than playing Fighter (which I did my first time) and I honestly think the game exaggerates the complexity, especially since the class gives you options you just don't have as Fighter such as "Mirror Image" and AOE damage ranged spells whilst still having reasonably decent AC. I'm gonna watch this one anyway since you might give me an idea of what class to try when I do a Lich run next.

[@vampiricalchemist]

Feeling like playing this game again. But I dont know what myth path to take. I cannot default to Azata again but I loved it so much, I'd like to. I think I want a full merc run to build unique teams.

[@nenadpavlovic8405]

On my way to become a Lich with Sylvan Sorcerer (1st playtrough) 😊 can't wait to try merged spell book . Will probably try Dual cursed Oracle for good playtrough 😊

[@kintaro79]

Would be great to get a similar video on your favourite / your recommendation for classes for each Mythic Path. Think you did one awhile back, but would be good to see an update. E.G> Crusader Cleric for Angel etc.

[@alexblades5218]

Shadow shaman was great for a "do everything" playthrough. Air / Stone + Battle spirits Tiefling for bite Claw hex + demon horns 1 level dip for monk + flurry of blows + Wisdom to AC Demon (mythic level 1 + 2) --> Angel --> Gold Dragon Respec before Gold Dragon to max and min your stats (Gold Dragon increases all you stats to a minimum of 14 then later 18, so dump away lol) Was a great character for a non-unfair run- full attack (flurry of blows + claw + bite + horns) was hilarious with sneak attack, then being a full caster with Angel spells, was so much fun

[@marcuspercival7610]

Am about to dip my toes into wotr so really appreciate updated content. Rules and complexity is manageable being an old Rolemaster addict 😊(TTRPG if someone remembers it). I do not really want to play Oracle/Angel do-goder as a playthrough so all new content giving ideas are great! Keep it coming

[@albaniaalban]

Hey Mort, been thinking of booting up a new unfair game with all the DLC that has been added (esp full power unfair sithhud!), do you have any fun build ideas for non-evil KC that aren't oracle angel? Tired of being a one-man army lol.

[@davidkauffman8798]

While it didn't get mentioned as good or bad, my favorite Archetype is easily Invulnerable Rager for Barbarian, but I freely admit that it's largely because of a character I played at the table who was an absolute blast to play