Patreon EXCLUSIVE | B*tch Box | The Joe Budden Podcast

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In this Patreon exclusive episode, the JBP starts with Melyssa answering if she thinks the guys are misogynistic. Mel then gives her review of some of her cohosts and why they aren’t evolved, including an argument with Ish over a delayed apology that may or may not have happened. The room then moves to a conversation on how to deal with your children’s passions as a parent, Mel shot a movie in Canada recently, issues with ordering food while in a relationship, + more!
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[@TheBlackalachian]

Telling Ish he speaks through his trauma is the most pot calling the kettle black moment ever..

[@ovandograham7793]

😂😂😂

[@firstchain_prominence]

😂😂😂

[@nofreehooks]

“Could you be wrong and we just point it out?” 😂😂😂

[@jjbing3]

💪🏾🙌🏾

[@Nikia_Nicole]

Flip still sitting there looking at Mel like “Yo Mel I love you, but you still ain’t apologize yet!”🤣🤣🤣🤦🏽‍♀️

[@FactFinderTV99]

42:47 Joe “ it was a different ish that I apologised to so it should carry over to all of the Ish’s “ 🤣🤣🤣🤣He was trolling Mel this whole episode fr

[@KeithHarris-om6kz]

Funny af

[@OMEGAg935]

LMDOSOSOSOSOOSS

[@misha745]

Mel is in denial. It's definitely hard for her to sincerely apologize.

[@Jeez215]

She’s a narcissist.

[@Boxtruckin]

She’s a mysandrist lol

[@grimformation]

Narcissistic

[@Andreaswarren]

something a lot of women struggle with

[@nikkinic2269]

THIS episode is definitely in my top three! The way Ish sat there shaking he foot as Melyssa psychoanalyzed him, had me BUSTING UP 😂😂😂 Then when he broken-down why he believes men can't speak openly about women, it got really interesting. I've never understood why equality isn't equal, but I'll leave that to the socially-correct to explain.

[@Blank9458]

Equality isn’t what people should want it’s equity but they keep using the wrong word

[@gailrogers5750]

​@@Blank9458Amen!!

[@grimformation]

​@Blank9458 wait. Why not explain why equity is the correct word? Ur statement is argumentative n yall dont even know each other. Lol

[@belowaveragegamer95]

They want the benefits of equality, non of the cons lol. Equal voice, but be delicate with you speak to them. I’m talking some women not all

[@Blank9458]

@@grimformation he said he doesn’t understand equality isn’t equal so I told him the word that would make more sense. I’m not tryna argue😂

[@kendallsmith7594]

Ish be frying Mel up in these arguments/debates. And it’s hilarious

[@abneraranivar346]

HE NEVA MISS & SHE CANT STAND IT

[@I-Know-it-All-sc3jz]

He cook all of em lol The muffin man

[@donnywords736]

Ish shaking foot and having the mad face ready to go off on Mel had me crying lol

[@LADILADY67]

This episode among several others is why I say please don’t believe Mel when she says “and I think I can speak for all women when I say” or “many women feel as if”. Mel is so lost to be so freaking old.

[@kylakirkwood]

Exactly. I think unfortunately dare I say it, a younger woman's perspective could be needed because she is NEVER accurate speaking for "women" old bitter, lonely ass

[@axa5005]

As a woman “box” doesnt offend me but now I’m wondering if it should lol

[@nofreehooks]

@@axa5005it should not. It’s like penis/dick/cock. All slang words that can be used in many variations and meanings. It depends on the context. Ish has never called Mel a bitch nor spoke about her “box”.

[@youngatwista]

​@@axa5005that probably means, in my humble opinion, that you weren't fukd by a bunch of rappers during your prime years as a video hoe who used the word "box" and now that word is reminiscent of those times and strikes a nerve....maybe

[@kalebautry6709]

You stupid ​@@axa5005

[@misha745]

If you sent the apology to the wrong person then you infact DID NOT apologize.

[@wadfasfsdfdsfsf]

U are wrong. Thats not how Mel's evolved brain works

[@Joglo8]

@@wadfasfsdfdsfsf😂😂😂

[@1991Meka]

Mel my girl...and she brags about being intelligent. Why does she not get this?

[@wadfasfsdfdsfsf]

@@1991Meka she confuses diction for intelligence

[@PatrickJones23]

​@@1991Mekashe said it herself lol she can find someone intelligent but lacking in some areas smh

[@don4941]

Joe must have loved this. He literally started this massive snowball by saying in public what melyssa shared with him in private. This was wild

[@nadiasarah_]

Mel I love you and all…but this episode. Whew. Delusional ain’t even the word. She really couldn’t be accountable and just apologize. I’m blown lol

[@DHarris02]

Yeahh she was wildin

[@JPitamus]

This entire episode is pretty much Ish holding himself back from callin Mel a b**** 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@yalliahc]

I love flips cluelessness then shock when everything starts to make sense in his head . Delayed but hilarious reaction .

[@omertaiscode2105]

This episode is great! Clinical representation of how someone who lives their live and ignores the realities of the life around them. The way Mel spoke on Ish is clearly projection and alot of trauma it was interesting to see her tap dance and try to mask shots at ish with her analysis. This being a old episode then her situations that followed this with her comments on Cam & Mase. She mentions "men that want to sleep with women but dont love women" the irony is she sounds wholeheartedly like a female " that sleeps with men but doesnt love them" she shows that damn near every episode, but not too much on Mel ...

[@MannyTwice]

It wasn't that serious box was a Twitter word that ironically Ice created to describe vagina😂😂

[@DREDR-jn8nw]

You spittin bro

[@brownsuga7444]

Whoaaaa well said!!

[@milliemfnmike]

Damn u right sun, she tolerates black men because of optics. But I don’t think she really likes us, she seems to be of the mindset that we are beneath her but can’t find mates from other races neither. It’s a cold world g🌎

[@Message1inthesame]

Flip be asking the right questions to everyone, keep them going yo 💪🏽😂

[@poeticthoughts06]

Joe doubling back to being an empath several times is hilarious🤣.

[@Jayphresh14]

My head would’ve exploded if I was ish. He could’ve also said “ Mel after you allegedly apologized what was my response ? “ that could’ve ended that conversation early

[@OldBoySosa]

"I don't fkin remember what your response was!" - Mel

[@BlackGirlInADoggoneWorld]

I was WAITING on him to ask this so bad. It's my go-to every single time someone tells me they sent an email or a text.

[@Drizzydre86]

Yooo Ish went crazy at the opening "ion't wanna call bitches, bitches"😂😂😂

[@philevans1673]

But the bitches love it. He took some sense and made a nickel of it.

[@earlwilliamsjr2415]

The fact that Mel didn't say sorry to ish right here and now tells a lot about mel??? Ish is 100% right.

[@mooodybluez]

Dealing with Mel has to be like dealing with a deranged Karen 😂” that doesn’t even sound like me” Mel yes it does 😂. Finally the general public gets to see this episode

[@isaiah1504]

Joe gets the instigator of the year award. He set Mel and Ish up and they fell for it bad.

[@Beautybliss1313]

The comment I was looking for. Ish stayed quiet for way too long

[@cigb747]

He did, but this was NEEDED, for Mel to be seen for who she really is. She's a narcissist! I see why she is childless and single at her age.

[@JimmySandra]

AS AN EMPATH ALL OF THIS IS BOTHERING ME RIGHT NOW 😂😂😂

[@officialDrGVO]

Shawty said, “I’m sorry that my apology message didn’t get through” lmao

[@rodneyashley8375]

Mel went crazy with the non apology I almost got upset like I was there 😂like damn but I’m happy joe keep the mood up because I felt bad for ish

[@AliFrankTheTank]

“Maybe the apology should carry on to all Ishs”😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@bryanrhodes4955]

And that’s why Ish let her drown when they addressed the Cam and Mase situation

[@terajiima]

@@bryanrhodes4955you are 1000% correct I knew Ish wasn't gonna forget that

[@freethinkerstv2112]

This episode made love Ish, he stood in his 10 and didn’t back down.

[@eastsider85]

She clearly has issues with taking accountability for anything,issues with apologizing,looking foward when she created the issue with cam and refused to say sorry,even with a therapist she still lives in her own world of delusions

[@GoodOlMarcus]

This is literally MOST women that I’ve ever known. Accountability is a disease to them.

[@Wildman66]

Mel said all that bs in the beginning about Ish but it’s crazy when she was younger, she made her name in an industry that is built off objectifying women. Can’t make the stuff women say up

[@user-kb2te3ex6j]

The moment when mel needed “more context” on a clip of a conversation SHE HAD and to sit up there and act as if she had no recollection of said conversation… she needed more context so she can buy more time to find the semantics in order to find her way out of being wrong … and that’s really triggering for me. We’re dealing with an impossible person before our eyes. This episode backs up EVERY claim I’ve made of mel and she need’s REMOVED it’s irresponsible and dangerous to give her a platform

[@Pounce730]

Ish played it so cool when she SCREAMED “you have two phones”. Joe and Ice face said it all. I rock with Ish forever how he Pods bro.

[@Mrchrishenri]

Melissa Ford thinks the word box is offensive. She doesn’t believe that there’s words that are offensive when describing male private parts but previously on her example, she said it’s offensive to her. But the same can be said to males. I agree with ish and understand you can’t win in the discussion Mel is a dismissive Narcissis, that is always playing the victim

[@whatudoin1]

i know alot of people don´t like Mel but you can´t deny those 2 words are excessively used by one guy. I think it´s funny ,it can easily be turned into a drinking game,the man has no filter when it comes to women. And no ! i´ve never met anybody who thinks Di-k is offensive

[@Mrchrishenri]

@@whatudoin1 I think people are easily conveniently offended when they what to be. I wonder if mel has ever asked ish to stop using those words off camera ? Maybe she has maybe she hasn’t. But imagine a world we’re we all choose what offense us. We really can’t control how others speak or conduct themselves but we can control how we respond and what we allow offend us. We all have the right to be respected. Ultimately we give words power. For example if someone calls me out of my name I have the right to name call back but what do I get from that ? If it doesn’t apply let it fly . It’s not the first or last time Mel will here the word B or box .

[@whatudoin1]

@@Mrchrishenri yes Mel has mentioned it before ,even Ish says he wants to stop using the B word . You definitely should say it outloud if in your workplace certain words offend. It´s really the amount of time it´s used,i dont think she´s shocked or super offended,she only said "this is how it hits me,can you choose other words" .Months later they still get along,it wasnt that serious. Mel comes accross as someone who complains alot but the uncut part shows that it´s joe who asks Mel to describe each person and why she thinks they are not so "evolved" . She falls into his trap and shares her opinion that she would have kept to herself otherwise

[@Mrchrishenri]

@@whatudoin1 that’s fair I don’t think it’s a hard task for ish ! I also think intent / contexts plays a big part in all this !

[@cristobalbalenciaga7295]

⁠@@whatudoin1the women they invite on the jbp say “bitch” more then ish. And mel had 0 problems with that. And wether words are offensive or not, is subjective. Some people find pussy offensive, some find pum pum offensive. Mel was just projecting, and clearly she’s speaking from trauma

[@BlackLightnin58]

Ive always wondered how good this patreon episode was!!

[@RedSkies30]

Fuckin FIRE 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@koredeonanubi6359]

Mel saying you guys are not self aware took me out. Fire her pls

[@_2_first_names]

From Eddie Griffin, Ish to Cam'ron. Mel doesn't ever take accountability and always tries to spin it like she's the victim. Imagine dating someone like this, it would drive you crazy

[@cynthiareina1156]

Ish making mel look like a goofy is classic

[@AliFrankTheTank]

“i am in the twilight zone !!” 😂😂😂

[@chew9766]

Ayo Mel not taking accountability was pissing me off like I was in that room 🤣🤣

[@Drizzydre86]

Joe holdin the laptop like a boom box in 87😂😂😂😂

[@glenchaos9]

She gives single forever energy

[@williamdarby9589]

That’s why she has Daisy

[@wadfasfsdfdsfsf]

@@williamdarby9589 poor daisy

[@sayitoutloudchp]

😅

[@TaylorMadeKicks]

Yooo, this was the greatest shit ever, Mel just apologize…. Telling a story of events doesn’t equate to an apology Say the words to him😅

[@glenchaos9]

Ofcourse Mel thinks any opinion that's not pro women is misogynistic

[@BostonShark88]

Exactly last pod was good bc men spoke the truth about baby mama drama and ruining mens lives etc. Mel chimes in w her cappuccino 0 accountability and the stumped response w facts over feelings and emotions gets these women every time bc it's real and they try cope n hard or cop n out!

[@lorddrewcifer7650]

I was JUST about to say that lmao

[@Jm-is9ig]

Yo I love Mel but she just can't take accountability and just cannot admit when she's wrong it's sad to see that's a turn off

[@martellreed934]

This was my Christmas gift! This was the the 1 episode as a “brokie” I was hoping we would be blessed with! Thank you JBP! Much love! Ish is that dude! Salute x2! (In my Flip voice)

[@queenp8682]

ON GOD

[@theslaken]

My nicca you dont got 15 buck ?😂

[@martellreed934]

@@theslaken not when my extra bread 🥖 is going to my son’s medical bills. But salute big dawg! 🙏🏾💪🏾 Continued blessings to u!

[@theslaken]

@@martellreed934 salute!

[@qazar444]

Mel having another Ish in her contacts and we’re just now hearing about it is crazy 😆😆😆😆

[@cristobalbalenciaga7295]

I don’t even understand how she thought that that would be a good excuse. I swear mel is nuts

[@Teddy_z_]

Mel is wild fake woke. These episodes show why she’s 50 and single. She’ll always be a pop 😅

[@shaw2301]

Big facts, I don't see her being on the show the whole 2024 either

[@Tyweezy84]

That part

[@Tyweezy84]

@@shaw2301crazy bc i was low key thinking this. She really brings nothing to the show if we keeping it a stack, which is why they always flaming her

[@shaw2301]

@@Tyweezy84 u dead rite... It be hella subs they throw , when she first came I thought it would be good for the show but as episodes went on I was like nah they need to let her go.

[@Redeye_Tv]

This cast including flip is like an episode of good times now when they argue. Gotta love it

[@slimelikely335]

Yo she is really the most unaware self aware person ever 😂😂😂 she can see all ya flaws but not hers

[@glenchaos9]

That's why she 45 & single 😂

[@ZVYWMx]

@@glenchaos9and no kids

[@tecno8335]

​@@glenchaos9she's 47 bout to be 48

[@Teddy_z_]

That’s why niggas pop and keep it pushing.. nobody bout to deal with Mel bullshit

[@christine-97]

@glenchoas9 Being single is a flex. Way better than being with a man who will eventually cheat and leave you to be a single baby mother and then blame you by saying "you should've chose better"

[@SosadaGoat23]

I start cracking up soon as I see ish’s foot get to kicking 😂😂

[@jjbing3]

Finally, the most talked about episode of the year! 🍿 🫲🏾

[@escophantom]

Mel being 47 and single makes more since every time she talks

[@covenantgovernment8389]

"He Said, She Said" is a fire name for the Ish & Mel podcast show. Thank Flip!!!!

[@theenatashasheree]

41:41 where’s the empathy Mel?? Blah blah blah? Yelling at someone that deserves an apology?? Speaking on air about it is not the same as genuinely apologizing off air. Damn‼️

[@idilali]

This episode is fire. They should always talk this openly it makes it for good podcast. Keep up the good work Mel and Ish.

[@Thisthat1234]

If they continue being this open this pod will break up in a couple months lol

[@LaynieBella]

Mel done pissed me off this episode I'm not gone lie.she gotta stop speaking on her perspective about really sensitive topics with the "the majority" "victim" mindset. She just told one of the guys she'd want them to stop responding with trauma and that's ALL she does. She lacks logic here a very large percentage of time on these pods and i think the guys making a great conversation or learning experience for her combined with an open mind it's not as prevelant or noticeable but that shit made my ass itch in embarrassment today. She gaslit THA FUCK out of Ish. Took 0 accountability no attempt to apologize when everyone told her she didn't apologize she got defensive deflected and talked in circles the WHOLE time.

[@PatrickJones23]

Mel's description of ish sounds like her own description. Shit is hilarious 😂 ish is the most realistic and real one on the pod. Mel be wrong alot and ice always capes what a coincidence. Whoever disagrees with her she labels misogynistic smh get help mel

[@Giddywiddy]

Pretending Ish ain't misogynistic is crazy. You can say it also applies to Mel but that's definitely Ish

[@AliFrankTheTank]

46:12 she wouldn’t apologize, started bringing down others sayin look at yo self 😂😂😂😂😂😂 … “Thought we were movin past it” without apologizing is nasty doings ❕

[@flippingkicksetc4643]

I when Mel gets loud she suddenly convinces herself she’s a victim

[@mylifeasjess8202]

This was a great episode! I love the entire segment about passion and what affects the ability to pursue a passion, especially for youth. And changing a child's zip code IS one of the best things you can do. Simultaneously, as a black woman I'm not saying I want my children to be around all white children or anything along those lines, AT ALL. Getting to a zip code with a diverse group of ethnicities of other youth that come from families that push for their children to be ambitious and successful is important.

[@briggs713]

That accountability is the devil to women. That whole interaction raised my bp at least 20 points. I guess I’m a empath myself. 😂

[@qisyn7]

Love how joe just chillin criss cross apple sauce letting them get their shit off 🤣🤣 41:56

[@kevinmokoena9506]

“Mel said she apologized to ‘ME’”…”I realized I texted the wrong number”…wild😂

[@KingContrary]

The prime example of someone dodging accountability at the cost of looking delusional af 😅

[@chrisrobinsonii95]

They missed an opportunity to really help her make a breakthrough in her life. They should have never moved off the issue until they forced her to apologize. She clearly needs to be held fully accountable to get it and grow up.

[@Centure120]

This episode is probably the best one this year 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@joseortiz6936]

It’s the crying of laughter in the background that has it boosting my mood 😂😂😂

[@JerseySinCMD]

26:55 😂 Joe's Laptop the real MVP!!!

[@Ekfizzle]

Also its amazing how mel can speak so aggressively about men, but doesnt consider herself a man hater. Or a woman that doesnt like men, but likes their attention etc.

[@wadfasfsdfdsfsf]

They can accuse u of the same thing they do, but don't u dare accuse them of same!

[@Swayze_S.L]

This is super accurate! Mel is literally the female version of the men she calls misogynistic.

[@Tyweezy84]

She’s a feminist who’ll be single forever 😂

[@ldturner]

Misandrist. Misandry is the hate of men.

[@kimabze]

16:25 the hiccups 😂😂😂 Flip you hilarious on the wordplay 😂😂😂

[@SChedda]

Watching this episode is triggering as uck. I dealt with a woman like Melyssa. And it was draining & it drove me crazy. There's no way she sees this & thinks she makes sense

[@njmspete5529]

As a woman, she irritates me and THIS really had me looking at her crazy. I am happy to say that when she says “I think I represent all women…”; she absolutely DOES NOT!!!

[@teezyfbaby252]

One of these episodes the guys need to tell MEL what they don't like about HER. Let's see how that episode goes, they'd probably get canceled. She's pretty open with telling them what they lack as a man though.

[@Giddywiddy]

They do it all the time

[@tabithajones2471]

​@Giddywiddy thank you. It has just now dawned on me that since she said the statistics of the audience which is 85 % male, that this dog piling on Mel is catering to the male audience. It's corny in my opinion

[@813entertainment9]

​@@tabithajones2471do you not think mel is delusional?

[@janaeraquelmiller]

Mmm, not quite the same. Joe led the charge with the convo. Mel didn’t voluntarily solicit her opinion.

[@njmspete5529]

I said the same thing!! How about reading her?

[@phunned6007]

It’s wild watching Mel on every episode after seeing what happened with Cam. I realize now she can’t apologize for nothing she’s wrong in

[@gunnyo50]

This episode took her an hour and a half for her to apologize to Ish. She wasn't sincere in that apology and she had to do so to keep the peace with the other guys on there BC ISH is their homeboy. Mel was FN crazy to psychoanalyse ISH like that and she doesn't know him like that to make those determinations about him.

[@user-ee1jc2sd1g]

She’s a horrible person

[@njmspete5529]

What happened with Cam?

[@andrew4349]

being a former video vixen and being offended by the words bitch and box is trauma

[@glenchaos9]

😂😂

[@KatoOnTheTrack1]

They must be killing those Breakfast Club numbers…

[@ETU187]

She’s a ball of trauma. Goes to the extreme in every situation

[@goodgirlgonerich]

Huh??? That's exactly why she has the trauma in the first place. Can you imagine the things she's seen and experienced. I'm sure it definitely contributed to her trauma, lol.

[@BostonShark88]

Maybe her 📦 has been falling apart from years of abuse and getting older it's not the same but she believes it's the same but can't get a man bc it's prob old stretched out or dented box hahaha she thinks if she doesn't get any d for years it's gonna repair itself just like she thinks shs never wrong and always plays the victim

[@clarkkent52]

Corey is a hilarious ad lib...lowkey turns the pod up

[@user-us6or2gl8m]

I think Flip was a good mediator this episode. Mel is delusional and plays victim way too much. She had a million excuses and 0 accountability.

[@gunnyo50]

This is the Patreon episode that I was looking forward to the most. I was hoping they would release it before the 24th was up and to my surprise they have done it.

[@kwasisampson78]

Mel is a psychopath 😂

[@covenantgovernment8389]

Muffin Man became a legend this episode 🧁🧁🧁🧁🧁🧁🧁

[@saintmte5076]

Ahhh the episode that Mel wants to forget QUICKLY!!! Some serious toxic femininity was shown here.

[@glenchaos9]

🎯

[@beng8262]

Forget? This is the pod that elevated her. Joe said he loved it and watched it 20 times.

[@stilltrippin6100]

Dam I just finished Unfiltered…. Salute JBP I got four hours til clock out time .. Happy Holidays to y’all

[@jordaanbutler6480]

Joe kilt me with the “Make Pictures Great Again”😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@andrewrussell7900]

I've never spent the time ever to write a comment on videos. But to see Mel laugh at Ish saying he doesn't want an apology was a Gut punch. To know that Ish has proceeded to move on from this considering this video Is old is the maturity level I strive to be. Everyone in there knew she was wrong and addressed in a kind manner as men. Id love to see this video dissected in a psychology class

[@Manewutdahell]

I listened to this at work I had to come home and actually watch it. Y’all are hilarious

[@DeEntertains]

This is gaslighting to the highest degree. Mel is putting on a clinic.

[@Afrovii]

This episode was FANTASTIC by the way, even with the uncomfortable spots.

[@gawdseye6729]

Should've had the live chat open for this one 😂😂

[@glenchaos9]

💯😂

[@iLatrell62]

Thank yall. Theses podcast have held me down while I’m at work since all the morning shows are all vacation

[@Ohh_Is_That_Sooo...]

@27:23 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN... WE FUCKIN GOT HER!! 😭😂🤣 and she snitching 😭

[@PJC0007]

Oh so todays the day they finally decided to drop this one. If you haven’t seen this one buckle up guys 😈💀🔥💯

[@chefjared1617]

They finally dropped the best patreon pod.

[@AKACoachC]

14:30 when ish eyebrow went up like the roc had me ROLLING 😭😭😭

[@PhilippeDesrameaux]

To anyone reading this who has not seen this, enjoy! One of the best pieces of content from this iteration of the show this year.

[@chrisgates5739]

Mel wins the jbp nasty award for 2023 . Salute.

[@KB-qh6qc]

Ish said he laughs the most then didn’t laugh for another hour 😂😂

[@ty3691285]

The zoom function on KZbin was made for this episode 😂😂😂 watching the individual facial expressions make this shit even more funny.

[@qisyn7]

Misandry: the word we never knew because it wasn't pertinent to a narrative.

[@SincerelyDeidree]

Joe set Ish and Mel up just to sit and laugh

[@itsniceoutside85]

Mel is just bad at podcasting. She just sounds unreal. A word a totally safe word makes Ish out to be a monster 😂🤣😂

[@Thedepthofwords]

The episodes when Joe doesn’t talk much and just let’s the bs happen are priceless 😂

[@daris7909]

I swear if clickbait was a person it would be mel ford. from the preview we got of her before to the actual person that we see on the pod now its crazy. She says it seems like he talking through trama, and everytime they ask her a question on relationships she literally talks through her trama

[@DeeBrownLTD]

I will ALWAYS rewatch this video!!! Top 3 for SURE!!! 😂😂😂😂

[@Lettervvriter612]

Patience is a virtue.