Man, the metaphor between singing “ooh” vs. “ahh”//long D vs. side D… that’s so brilliant.
@alonelysnakeinvr5875 ай бұрын
I no may not reply I love your teaching I am beginner in Selmer Paris Supreme I use Synthetic Reed But I am not getting that sound I am wanting like other you tubers do With Selmer An I can't get to hight notes How do I go from low note to High note sound Let me no wen u can
@cipriancorneanu61206 ай бұрын
I had no idea i suck that bad at voicing.. i thought my embouchure was the problem, but in fact i'm really tense and anxious when i play because my intonation sucked and every note felt different each time. Used to play the clarinet and got into saxophone. I gotta say you really opened my eyes to what my actual problem really is.. Thanks a lot, man!
@cetrikh3939 Жыл бұрын
Close to ten years of saxophone and i heard the voicing match for the first time. As well as the fun fact that the sax is basically a clarineted tuba...
@sidneiramalho2 ай бұрын
Hi Patrick, thank you so much for this video. After many years playing the saxophone and several teacher later, I finally understood what voicing really is. It is one of those light bulb moments. I just came from the practice room. I hit notes that I've been struggling from a long time, like the 4th partial of the low Bb overtone. I sang the note, paid attention what my mouth and tongue was doing, tried and it came out loud and clear. I can't thank you enough! I truly appreciate you. Thanks!!!
@geraldhommemusic2 жыл бұрын
I've been playing saxophone for over 20 years and learned so much from this. No one every explained voicing to me the way you did in this and it is something I'm looking forward to exploring in my practice. Great content
@Jackson-ol5xt Жыл бұрын
Your advice about using softer reeds is something I discovered on my own. I was looking for a new mouthpiece and landed on a Jody jazz piece during my senior year of high school, and since the tip opening was a 7 (I was coming from a meyer 6), I figured I should try softer reeds. I have never switched back, I have SOOO much more control it’s unbelievable. I’ve since moved on from that Jody piece for a lakey 6 star to try and darken my tone a little bit, but I still use the 2&1/2 reeds when before I switched I was playing on 3 or 3&1/2s. Not to mention that I rarely ever have a bad reed out of the box!
@warrenjohnson2082 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video and I will definitely try your suggestions
@justintee3241 Жыл бұрын
Been playing for over 15 years in and off. Its always good to be reminded of the basics. Good vid and great channel
@ericperry18612 жыл бұрын
Man voicing is such a huge thing that so many players never practice (Sinta’s book is staring at me off my music stand) or even heard of it. Would love to hear your take on voicing for split tone and then combining it into the altissimo.
@Fred-le7bl Жыл бұрын
I took private clarinet lessons decades ago in junior high and high school and took up tenor and soprano sax for jazz band. Nobody ever told us about voicing, so this video was very interesting. Thanks! I saw you playing "Si tu vois ma mère" with Avalon and Tatiana Eva-Marie and loved your sound on clarinet before ever hearing you play sax.
@EricTorreborre2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for making those videos Patrick. I really appreciated the point on thinking of the sax as the extension of the human voice. I'm also regularly trying to imitate the sound of players that I like. Not only this is a great exercise but it is also very pleasant!
@saxiroth66472 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the most practical and uplifting lessons on sound i’ve seen on this platform. Thanks Pat! Edit: i would love to see a video about the specific fingerings you use that help you get the voicings that you want!
@intentionalaikido2 жыл бұрын
Me too!!
@natek3954 Жыл бұрын
This has been really helpful! Thank you so much for taking the time to make this!
@D3athlyV1sag32 жыл бұрын
Underrated af, this is some actual, legit, solid advice. Super strong tips Pat. Have been around and also learnt from many different instructors regarding Saxophone back when I did play.... Not many, if not at all - discuss the extreme importance behind these 5 basic things. They don't put weight behind how crucial these points are in basics. It's an old ass saying but really good and masterclass players, have mastered the basics.
@lawvawnisrael48535 ай бұрын
Great job Patrick. I really enjoyed this video. I've been following you since middle school. Melton Mustapha use to always talk about how great you were. I however, never heard you on the clarinet. I know its wonderful. That's my first instrument I started on. But, I needed to make money and nobody was using clarinet in their band so I had to switch to saxophone. Been doing saxophone now for 47 years. People love me but you , my friend are beyond all expectations of what a sax player should sound like. I thank our heavenly Father Yahweh for you making this video and may He continue to bless you in this musical journey. Be blessed. Shalom Alecheim.
@mauriziosodano5907 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Patrick 😊
@roger65er Жыл бұрын
Thank you for breaking it down for us with such clarity, Mr. Bartley! Great tips, like you said, some are not new to most players but you surely cast a fresh light on the key aspects of building the best sound on the saxophone. Personally, I realized I should practice voicing way more than I’ve been doing. 🙏
@jamescronin14862 жыл бұрын
Excellent instruction! I've never had a sax teacher explain voicing to me. I've first learned this from KZbin saxophone instructors like yourself. I agree that listening to your favorite player(s) and trying to imitate their sound and style is extremely helpful. By imitating you teach yourself the micro-adjustments that enable you to change your playing, which happens over much playing time.
@fosbury684 ай бұрын
Thank you for so generously sharing Patrick. All very useful and helpful.
@jaysakul3 ай бұрын
Great geat Job Pat. Thank you so much for your Tips.
@davidsmusic2 жыл бұрын
Wooow man, my mind has blast!!! crazy, I was for a long believing "I should get harder with my reeds to play and get better control"... and now make me more sense what my sax teacher said the last year and now you had confirm it. Thanks a lot for your videos!
@SGreen_82 жыл бұрын
Loving the recent content!!! I play alto and tenor sax in high school and I'll definitely be practicing these 😁
@regularnimnule97157 ай бұрын
Very, very helpful for me as a newbie to the instrument (6 months). Thank you.
@remaininguchiha6935Ай бұрын
Great video, just started my sax journey constantly trying to improve my sound, I would love it if you made a video on breathing and breath control,😅😅😅😅😅 feels as if I got more room fir improvement in that regard
@amoswaranch11022 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this Pat.
@AugustRileyMusic2 жыл бұрын
You called me out so hard during the voicing section lmaooo
@eriksax3 ай бұрын
Thank you Sensei. I truly appreciate your kind and enthusiastic instructions. Every word was like gold to my ears and mind. Your clarity and pedagogy was extremely appreciated. I have been only “messing around” with voicings on Alto without the specific descriptions you described. My results were varied, although valuable. Without specific instructions like you provided it was sort of shotgun like as opposed to laser like. Now I have targets. Thank you very much Sir.
@jakersni949911 ай бұрын
This is a brilliant instructional video. Thanks Patrick.
@SeanMcCarthyMusic2512 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of Joe Temperley, can't wait to hear more of what you have to say about studying with him
@xrgiokАй бұрын
Great speech man! Do some more teaching please, it so inspiring!
@KeithTaylorPhoto2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Would be really interested in you expanding on creating various vocal inflections through voicing’s as you demonstrated right around the 19:00 mark. I also loved this particular bit of advice: “Don’t practice for perfection, practice for consistency.”
@philholmesmusic5696 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Super helpful advice from such a master! Many thanks 🙏
@brianmatthews232 Жыл бұрын
Refreshing and innovative approach, very useful. Thanks for sharing and inspiring 😀
@nkirukaabadom2955Ай бұрын
great tips! I am glad I listened till the end
@djwayneonsax2 жыл бұрын
Dude at 21:45 you speak to not trying to be perfect but consistent. That's light to the spirit. Well said and should help any performing artist. Otherwise the shortcomings will kill the spirit of even trying for perfection. I'm a witness!
@eddyel-mir1783 Жыл бұрын
thank you Patrick all the support from lebanon 🇱🇧
@ericwmusic47382 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Pat. I really like the approach of having a target/reference sound and working backwards to achieving that even if it means “going off the beaten path”. I’ve realized that sometimes when there’s a particular way I want a note to sound (eg while trying to imitate a master), I literally have to make not just adjustments in my throat, but explore and sometimes even “invent” an alternate fingering itself that’s specific to my horn and anatomy. All that to say, it’s about having a clear picture of your sound concept, getting a reference of what sounds good ideally from the masters, and working backwards mastering your horn and anatomy in order to achieve those sounds.
@kaiserkled44252 жыл бұрын
Really nice Video! Although i think many know those essentials its important to "refresh" every now and then and keep them in your mind. In the end, there arent really tips for "advanced" players, the better you get the more you get out of practicing the basics and also understand why that is so. One tip for Long Tones i got from a lesson with Dick Oatts: Play them softly and quiet. Its harder to control and you benefit more from it instead of blasting them for a long a time. Its like you dont hurry while doing biceps-curls, slow and consistent mvoement does the trick!
@hecateswolf600724 күн бұрын
Thanks Pat great lesson
@rickyhoward80252 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this!!! I am extremely grateful
@intentionalaikido2 жыл бұрын
So far, in my experience, nobody has described voicing so importantly as you have done here.. Taking my playing and sound to a whole 'nowhere level! Thankyou!!
@carification5 ай бұрын
Thanks!! A new lesson I never thought of.
@cannewbis8 ай бұрын
I'm late to the party, but l love this video. New to the Sax world. I received a Sax for my 40th bday this past January, and I am determined to teach myself despite some ailments l'm dealing with. Scoliosis messes up my breathing and posture for easy breath control, neuropathy makes finger positions challenging, and some hearing loss makes me constantly wonder if l'm on the right note, lol. Nevertheless, consistency is the key.💪🏾😅🎷🔑
@yolioms4 ай бұрын
Pat, thank you sooo much for these tips re-defined to make better sense to a newbie like me. You rock I am stoked to have stumbled upon your channel! Cheers!!
@jdgoldberg7634 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff !! I’ve been playing for 55 years and still learning. Enjoy your videos
@paulhughes525Ай бұрын
Just seen this on voicing - two wasted years! Bloody brilliant mate, transformative stuff.
@pierrebaldwin96722 жыл бұрын
I love these longer videos bro, loving the work and help man. Hopefully I get to meet and play with you when I head to college in south florida!
@petersumner3482 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the wisdom Pat!! (Especially what you said about consistency at the end)
@casanovalove24Ай бұрын
I appreciate you my brother for giving great insights ✊🏿😎
@randyidaho Жыл бұрын
Good info. Thanks for your contribution.
@onewithall69462 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Bro, you are the best. Watch other videos, but they are not focused like you. I was under the impression that John Coltrain played harder reeds.
@CarlKing-h6d2 ай бұрын
Mr Barkley your the goat. I first became aware of you when you played in Wynton Marsalis Big Band. I liked your video and I look forward to more in the future.
@ChipTheMusicMan2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pat - yeah this was great. I'm beginning to understand the importance of voicing. I play alto and I've noticed that to play the full range with a good sound I need to make certain adjustments and when I'm more mindful I sound much better than when I'm just blowing and moving my fingers. Still got a lot of work to do!
@Will-xo1xg2 жыл бұрын
Love this. Thanks for sharing what you know. I'll be spending some time with this one.
@ricardoabellanosa976 Жыл бұрын
Thank so much for your saxophone tips
@TheMahaffeymg2 жыл бұрын
Voicing has always been an issue. I’d love to get your take so I’m excited for that video to drop!
@marcel.e.c.augustin Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thanks a ton! I'm definitely looking forward to getting better with these tips!
@heinzbuena81544 ай бұрын
thanks for this one bro.very nice.
@サモエド-x6c2 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this video with subtitles from Japan. His sound is very great! I've became motivated to practice harder and make good sound!
@louisnicolosi119010 ай бұрын
Patrick, great respect for your playing but man you have been blessed with a good voice too.
@jonathanromero3332 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! It's been really helpful
@mchin6022 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Do you have a video on improving technique?
@CharlesBopp2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video. Just like you learned about the soft reeds I feel you have more to teach if you were less dogmatic in your teaching. Like I think you have more to teach begining and intermediate players (like me) if you could explain things in a way that isn't your way. I want this to be nice I really appreciate the guidance!! Thanks Saxor!
@adrianllewellyn64202 жыл бұрын
informative and true ,when i started playing alto i worked on the voice ,if you can sing it you can play it ,how true that is ,you just confirm everything i thought ,thank you ,
@gillesdumouchel99352 жыл бұрын
learn a lot from this video.Voicing is very important. Thanks.
@kalenderquantentunnel9411 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Some things may seem obvious until you come to the part about voicing and the example on how to sound bluesy. That really got my attention!
@amseminarioАй бұрын
Amazing video man! Thank you 🙏🏼
@colincolin87222 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your great video... You're a super teacher!!!
@guardezio2 жыл бұрын
Plenty of stuff here that I've heard before (and definitely some that I've heard on the discord!), but as I've learned through martial arts (different art, I know, but hold with me), even if you've heard a point explaining 100 times before, hearing it from someone else, from a different perspective -- no matter whether it's by a little or by a lot -- can sometimes make all the difference in the world to understanding the lesson/point/explanation. That's what I feel like I've got here! Point #1, definitely going to put this into action the next time I practice. #2, I discovered this on my own not too long ago, and good lord, it was light lighting struck me! On a whim, I switched from a 3 to a 2.5 that I had knocking around, and BAM, everything started to feel easier and sound better -- not good, mind you, but definitely far better than it had done before when I was trying to brute force my 3 strength. #3 definitely need to keep these points in mind when I'm doing my long tones; also, try to hold each note longer to make sure the support is there (4-6 beats at the moments (met. on 60BPM). #4, I really need to start adding this to my practice... and now I have a place on where to start! #5, reminds me of Pete Fountain, who learning to play the clarinet, in part, by playing along to recordings of Benny Goodman. I definitely need to get serious about my music listening and take this point on board -- though it may be some time until it clicks ^_^;;; And on the last point, I'm definitely guilty of trying to be perfect (not helped by being a natural perfectionist). I can't tell you how many times I've spent all of my practice time on a single scale because I've not played every note clean, or my timing slipped. Heck, the other day, I spent 15 minutes trying to get a clean high F# with the altissimo fingering (I don't have a high f# key) for a scale I wasn't even working on because I was chasing that perfection... end of a lengthy comment so it may be missed, but point "#6"... I really needed to hear that, not just for sax but in general. Thank you, Pat. And thank you for the brilliant vid! ^_^
@robertcook7185 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tips!
@pibedelsaxo2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this man
@TheAaronRodgersTao2 жыл бұрын
What is very clear from this vid, you are an incredibly giving and caring individual. Would be an honor to meet you someday.
@benmartin5417 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Always good to go back to basics. I’m gonna forward it to all my students. You’re delivery is refreshing just like your playing. Thank you
@fulviodamico16 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Pat, as always , it was a very informative video. I’d like to hear more about “voicing” Cheers from Australia (the land down under) Rocky 😉🎷
@marvinparadroid2 жыл бұрын
Really useful the voicings, that' s great.
@steveeisenburger60112 ай бұрын
I'm running through all the video listing's available, so cheers mate. Any relevant info is good info 😂🫡🇭🇲♥️💚💛🙏
@nathanbellott2 жыл бұрын
wonderful video Patrick, thank you. Love the approach and a key thing you said "I understand the things that people go through" with any particular problem is really great.
@glasscoeeocssalg2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Patrick you cover all that I was wondering about and more. Armed with this new knowledge I will work on my voicing which I've been learning to do more of in making my saxophones talk or tell the story.
@thomas_branson2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this amazing video Patrick. It was done in such a lovely and uplifting way. I've always thought sound is of the most importance when playing sax and playing in general so it sucks when you think that you're aren't getting anywhere with it, but i think this video will really help. Am looking forward to more of your content. Thanks!
@jtdcubing30382 жыл бұрын
Can you talk about having a consistent sound color in different registers? I feel that sometimes as players the lower notes can come out kind of like a foghorn. And the high notes can come out light. What can be practiced to help with that? I am always trying to hear it and work on it. But the voicing for the different extremes of the horn is so different that it can be hard to have a constant tone color. I know that it is something that comes with experience and getting to know your own instrument but is there a way to practice or check yourself for a good sound color? As always you're enlightening and inspiring. Thank you for the help on my saxophone journey.
@joshjablonski51832 жыл бұрын
Brotha you are blowing my mind. Can’t wait to try this out and start thinking outside of the box. 🎷🎷
@SydWardMedia2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video, love the part about consistency vs perfection.
@tessastephens48722 жыл бұрын
This video was super helpful thank you!!!!
@bryandickerson53652 жыл бұрын
I assumed I was, like usual, late to the party, but just now read it’s Pat’s “first ever”. Very cool! Lots to like here, nothing brand new for me, but with each point touched on brings new details and nuances that are new. The only one I’m not totally down with is the description of ‘voicing’. Hopefully that will get more attention in future videos. I think Pat doesn’t necessarily realize he has a leg up on a lot of us sax players in his ability to actually sing well. Great first offering Pat!
@reubenyahsrael3462 жыл бұрын
Stuff I never knew I'm glad I landed on this channel you got my subscription, this is just one of the areas I find so difficult is sound, thanks!
@maccarryn6 ай бұрын
Really enlightening- I loved it!
@itisnottaken44442 жыл бұрын
Love the tips man! One thing that helped me with my voicing is by using the mouthpiece and starting on a concert A and moving down lower and higher.
@Enderrock4242 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you said #2 because I love soft reeds. 2.5 has always been my vibe for jazz. 3 for classical
@РифхатТуктаров2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, buddy for your teaching I'VE understood a lot of things as a Sax beginner, May I ask questions in person I wonder
@LyndaHam-t4c11 ай бұрын
I have just started learning the alto sax and watching this has explained so precisely why I can play the same fingering and get a different sound, should I try to avoid it or develop it to my benefit. I do play clarinet and it is not expected on that, is it new education?
@philiplarson11822 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for a future Joe Temperley video! 🎷
@lovablebigman2343 Жыл бұрын
Hey Pat! I've come back to this vid a few times. Its really good, and I love that you always speak true to yourself! Was wondering if you ever did a vid on specific voicing/singing/throat stuff? You mentioned in the video but I cant find anything. Thanks man!
@derycktaylor36772 жыл бұрын
That was very helpful. Please keep these types of advice/tips coming.
@push-and-go27522 жыл бұрын
Amazing video love the personal talk
@daikichiTS2 жыл бұрын
Voicing technique improve my sound and pitch as well. Thank you!
@ChaaShaq2 жыл бұрын
Love the channel and all the free info you’re divulging Sir! Yours sincerely, A trumpet player
@keshavmoudgil9700 Жыл бұрын
You really know what you're talking about. Never related with a tutorial so much
@bubblyguywiz2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Extremely useful. Thanks so much for putting it up.