"What if Titanic, but we win at the end?" That is just too perfect!
@utubrGaming6 жыл бұрын
If he just added a little depth and nuance, he could have done Pearl Harbor so much better. "What if Titanic, but on a national level of shock and tragedy... but we win at the end... at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives and the foundations of American society and the way of life shaken... and since its the beginnings of the war, our heroes don't even know if they will make it out alive. "
@Gemnist985 жыл бұрын
I like what another reviewer said better: "The movie claims to borrow from great historical dramas, but really it borrows from Top Gun, Titanic, and Saving Private Ryan".
@HiDefHDMusic4 жыл бұрын
There was this romantic pop ballad that came out with Pearl Harbor that I would constantly confuse with the one from Titanic. When I saw a wisecrack video about Pearl Harbor was Michael bay remaking titanic with bombs and guns I was like, "I never saw titanic but somehow I remember always knowing this to be true"
@OmegaSoypreme4 жыл бұрын
@@HiDefHDMusic There You'll Be, by Faith Hill, I think. To be honest I actually like that song, sappy romantic schlock that it is 😋
@HiDefHDMusic4 жыл бұрын
Omega Soypreme yeah that’s it hahaha everytime I try to remember “My Heart will go on” I think of that one instead lol
@KingsandGenerals6 жыл бұрын
I ate the whole plate! Sorry, wrong channel.
@battleupsaber4626 жыл бұрын
Bumblebee, stop lubricating the man.
@tatehildyard53326 жыл бұрын
See how I glitter!
@archierm6 жыл бұрын
KnG has good taste in movie nerds.
@michaelm55186 жыл бұрын
I’m fine
@Gin-kz5ss6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I hate it.
@spinakker146 жыл бұрын
"where the sun is perpetually setting" This is such a great line and it really encapsulates Bay's visual too
@hawkeyenextgen7117 Жыл бұрын
The sun perpetually setting is somewhat an 80's aesthetic.
@lawrencecalablaster5686 жыл бұрын
How has Michael Bay never become involved in the Fast & Furious franchise?
@samringwald6 жыл бұрын
The Vatican has standing orders to stop that from happening, for the end times would truly be upon us. Consider this line from the Book of Revelations: "Unto man a robot did fall, and then the firmament was rent with red fire and blue light. And lo, a man did utter to the Lord, 'One quarter mile at a time do I live my life.' And when that man drove that robot, woe unto all God's children." I'm pretty sure that's an exact quote.
@LauralieLea6 жыл бұрын
samringwald ok this is amazing
@RetepAdam6 жыл бұрын
They’re doing just fine without him, thank you.
@archierm6 жыл бұрын
@@samringwald I didn't believe in God until today.
@krombopulos_michael6 жыл бұрын
He missed his chance when the movies were still shit. I don't think they'd want him at this point now that they're actually decent.
@willcarmack6 жыл бұрын
“Where the sun is perpetually setting” LOL true
@mehwhyausername16 жыл бұрын
lol clearly Pearl Harbor happened in the Antarctic during April and May. How else can you explain the 40+ day long sunset? you can't experience that in the south pacific tropics!
@afrosymphony82076 жыл бұрын
omg it was so quick i thought i was the only who laughed at that looool
@HiDefHDMusic4 жыл бұрын
@@afrosymphony8207 I laughed when he said it in the video, and I laughed again when I read this comment.
@CinematicV6 жыл бұрын
"Michael Bay is one of the greatest action directors. He has the best eye in Hollywood." - Steven Spielberg /2008/
@bill7755 жыл бұрын
Wow.
@jamesward38594 жыл бұрын
Well that was before the Transformers Sequels so
@oludascribe4 жыл бұрын
Now we've seen Chris McQuarrie direct MI:Rogue Nation and MI: Fallout, Miller do Mad Max:Fury Road and Chad Stahelski on the John Wick movies, wonder if Spielberg would still say he has the best eye for action.
@CinematicV4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesward3859 The Transformers sequels are action-packed and loaded with beautiful visuals. So I'm not sure what you're trying to say......
@bwoahviously3 жыл бұрын
Did Michael Bay take the picture in your profile
@misomiso82286 жыл бұрын
18:20 ' I think the movie falls apart when they go into space'. Best. Criticism. Ever.
@ephramwest83686 жыл бұрын
That intro was superb, your skits get more and more streamlined every time.
@ctons Жыл бұрын
this didn’t age too well.
@waywardlaser6 жыл бұрын
Pain & Gain is still, to this day, one of my biggest guilty pleasures. Michael Bay's directing style actually compliments the skewed motivations and world view of the main characters. The writing and performances are what make the movie but having Bay as the director, whether he was self aware or not, was kind of an interesting choice.
@stephenramos28246 жыл бұрын
not you same here pain and gain and that's my Boy are my two guilty pleasure films
@avex136 жыл бұрын
He spent years trying to get the movie done. The first time I remember him talking about Pain & Gain was right after the first Transformers.
@shukterhousejive6 жыл бұрын
P&G is a movie made entirely out of the weird comedy bits from his other films and I have no idea how it came together so perfectly
@paulsidoti54696 жыл бұрын
Pain & Gain is way better than it has any right to be.
@jordanromesburg68196 жыл бұрын
I think it's self-aware, in a way that honestly only he could pull off. It's like how The Wolf of Wall Street makes you love Jordan Belfort, before making you realize he actually hurt people and he's a piece of shit, but cracked up to 11. The movie basically never stops pointing out how horrific their actions were, but continues to be enjoyable. It seems like a very intentional choice to make the audience uncomfortable, and in my opinion a film succeeds when it pulls emotion out of you.
@lynxbelow69225 жыл бұрын
"These characters are real people who died, and Bay is having the time of his life blowing them up." That's such a coldly cynical takeaway, but you're not wrong. Were I to direct films, I admit I would take a lot of visual inspiration from Bay. He has a knack for making everything on screen interesting as Hell to look at, and the way he mixes that with scores and sound design always makes me giddy like a little kid.
@TheGeorgeD135 жыл бұрын
The key is to take the best of what Bay does and then forget the rest.
@ideologybot45922 жыл бұрын
@@TheGeorgeD13 I think the key is to put it in the right context. There are stories which lend themselves to Bay and stories which don't.
@shukterhousejive6 жыл бұрын
One of the lesser reasons Bay gets so much blockbuster work is that he never forgot his low-budget roots. Every production is done to military precision, with a lower budget and body count than other big time directors which is a pretty big thing for producers picking a director for their potential multi-million dollar boondoggle
@TheGeorgeD136 жыл бұрын
Yep. He pretty much always goes under the budget was given by even under $10-20 million. He saves them money and gives them bigger profits as a result.
@anthonywarren98855 жыл бұрын
Hey mom, we found the one guy that paid to see Transformers!
@ricktastica6 жыл бұрын
I'm dying at "what if Titanic, but we win at the end"
@happyfistcutscrap5 жыл бұрын
Bay is one of my favorite visual stylists. My favorite signature shot of his has to be the angle tilt.
@PlatyNews6 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for part 2 where we eat the whole plate
@gonk45096 жыл бұрын
Platy News Lindsay Ellis reference?
@PlatyNews6 жыл бұрын
@@gonk4509 In way, yes. Both of the videos talk about Bay in a way that movie critics talk about art in general, but with different focus. Or maybe it is just a quote from the movies that will appear in part 2. Sometimes a plate is just a plate and sometimes it is an explosion of flavors
@collinsmith70786 жыл бұрын
You’re really one upping yourself with this one Patrick. This is a masterclass of a deconstructionist video essay. Can’t wait for part 2!!
@anthonywarren98855 жыл бұрын
You must be 10 years old
@paulatreides67115 жыл бұрын
The patrick's videos are just so dumb
@ayby176 жыл бұрын
Patrick, thank you for this video! As a big Michael Bay fan, I really appreciate essays about this legend. Especially when they don't just bash him but see Bay's potential. You the man!
@ankitbhatti42872 жыл бұрын
Me too bro a big Nolan and bay fan
@kingofthegundam79746 жыл бұрын
I'll admit, I'm never gonna be sold on him, but your videos have given me a lot of great insight into his skill as a filmmaker that I never knew about and even pointed out merits in his approach. These videos are wonderful.
@steveN1113335 жыл бұрын
20:28 "it was like watching an Italian speak without his hands" LOL 😂
@DubiousConsumption6 жыл бұрын
As much as I love "Objects in the Rearview Mirror May Appear Closer Than They Are," I had no idea it had a music video, much less it was done by the Bay. Such an awesome pull!
@lawrencecalablaster5686 жыл бұрын
One minute into this video and I'm already completely thrilled by this video essay/ world-saving mission.
@ruthielalastor22096 жыл бұрын
*America
@rolanddeschain60896 жыл бұрын
One minute in and I'm already annoyed by the Bay style. I take him seriously. So serious that I avoid his films. Although I like big blockbusters.
@andrewbraid10296 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic! I had no idea about Bay and Fincher's history together, or about the behind-the-scenes epiphany that he had while making Pearl Harbour. Plus the opening sketch did a top-notch job recreating Bay's aesthetic. I can't wait for Part 2!
@JoeAllenD6 жыл бұрын
Pearl Harbor is the most important entry in his filmography and is also the only film to include Josh Hartnett? Coincidence? I think NOT!
@HoovyTube6 жыл бұрын
The production design in your videos is damn near flawless. God damn gg
@sandman456 жыл бұрын
"Yea the new Transformers is going to suck, but you're going to see it anyway." -Michael Bay
@adarshsirsat91106 жыл бұрын
Yup, he is a visual genius. Just gotta hire a script writter.
@voltairinekropotkin55816 жыл бұрын
adarsh sirsat He does. His movies are usually written by several people. He usually does uncredited rewrites to add some of his "Bay-ness" to the material, but it's not like he writes everything himself.
@stephenramos28246 жыл бұрын
He needs a good editor more than anything
@jasonblalock44296 жыл бұрын
I honestly think that better scripts would do NOTHING to change the basic nature of a Michael Bay film, because Bay is so utterly focused on the imagery and surface-level gloss. His filming style steps all over dialogue and performances. He'd just end up burying everything good about the script under the typical pile of Bay-isms. (Like the classic example of how all of Megan Fox's character-establishing dialogue in Transformers 1 is delivered while Bay camerafucks her body, so no one hears her talk.) It would be like Ken Russell's Altered States. Russel was another director not known for his taste or restraint, but he was given a wordy Paddy Chayefsy script to work with. So he just had the actors rush through the dialogue as fast as possible, or even deliver it as overlapping parallel arguments, just to get through those scenes more quickly. It was incomprehensible. He basically made his movie *despite* the script, and that's how Bay would treat a good script too.
@Giovanna.the_g6 жыл бұрын
Michael Bay could have a script written by Ernest Hemingway himself but he's gonna put his style and sensibilities ahead.He stopped caring about scripts a long time ago
@motor4X4kombat6 жыл бұрын
One of the writters and head of the story from armagedon was jj abrams, and he didn't want the movie to be an action film he wanted to do satirical political comedy about the gobervermant dealing with natural dissasters, so insted in hire profesionals to deal with the problems they hire dumb oil workers to save money, thats why most of the science of the movie didn't make jack shit of scense because he wanted to do a dr strangelove/robocop type of satire (hell they even reference it) . It just michael bay fetish for action scenes and crow pandering writters that add that stupid ben affleck storyline that killed the orinal, and more interesting, visión of the movie
@jbrownil Жыл бұрын
Knowing he also did commercials gives me a much better understanding of why his style was so prevalent at the time. Also I actually really like Pain and Gain when I didn't expect to!
@evillynn41665 жыл бұрын
Credit where it's due. If he can shoot something in practical FX he will will (CGI is supposed to be a ladder, not a crutch.) And he is who I would go to for advice about explosions. Now, I am going to watch your thing and see if my two positives are highlighted.
@redxsage5 жыл бұрын
*_EXPLOSATHON!_* Finally! A critic who actually has something to day. Thank you.
@connorgodinich17726 жыл бұрын
I never noticed that Michael bay never grew up while Spielberg and fincher did.
@jasonblalock44296 жыл бұрын
Hell, Fincher barely even had to grow up. I mean, Seven is still one of the best nonfiction serial killer movies ever made, and the restraint Fincher uses in showing the grisly details is really impressive. Sure, he graduated to doing Zodiac and Mindhunters, but that was a pretty small step up from where he started. (Yeah, I'm pretending Seven is his first movie, but does anyone really see Alien3 as being "a David Fincher film"? He was jobbing when he directed it, and had very little control over... anything, really, aside from the cinematography and performances.)
@BenjaminWhitley6 жыл бұрын
In the good timeline, Michael Bay grew up and Spielberg never did.
@JacksonKillroy6 жыл бұрын
@@jasonblalock4429 Zodiac is a massive step up from se7en
@jordanloux38836 жыл бұрын
Bay tried, but learned being an adult isn't how he wants to be.
@Gemnist985 жыл бұрын
Fincher never really grew up. Aside from Alien 3 (which he was basically forced to do), all of his films deal with complicated, adult subject matter. Even Fight Club and The Social Network, despite the satirical nature and PG-13 rating/millennial targeting respectively, are still very complex films. Spielberg, meanwhile, seems to be caught between not growing up and growing up. His optimism remains, and there are plenty of movies of his that still have only childlike innocence (most recently Ready Player One), but he also does more adult content and does it really well. The only problem I see is that he’s lost an identity of sorts: you’re basically getting two Spielbergs in his current career state. Though to be fair, it’s really hard to blend serious content with blockbuster filmmaking; AFAIK Christopher Nolan is the only director who has built a career off of perfecting it.
@jezmorgan54404 жыл бұрын
oh wow i often watch movie review's and director roundtable's and stuff and i have to say the content ive found on this channel is some of the best in depth brutality honest reviews, descriptions and discussions on movies ive ever wtched. Subscibed
@danielwareking6 жыл бұрын
Welp. I guess Michael Bay and I have at least one thing in common: worshipping David Fincher.
@TheDavan6196 жыл бұрын
same
@allthingsfascinating6 жыл бұрын
"Are you serious" is the first thought I had while clicking on this video
@jokarpinski226 жыл бұрын
Watch Epic Rap Battles: Spielberg v Hitchcock .... Bay speaks the truth about movies
@taragwendolyn6 жыл бұрын
Mine too. But then I thought about it a minute and realized that yeah, actually.... he is an auteur. You don't have to be making particularly high brow cinema to have an established style/storytelling method that makes a casual observer look at the film and say "yup, that's definitely this director". Bay fits the bill. He wouldn't be my first pick if I were trying to describe/show auteur theory (modern directors, I'd probably pick Tarantino), but that isn't the point of the video.
@LinkMarioSamus6 жыл бұрын
Even as someone who can't stand Armageddon I actually agree that he's an auteur.
@JacksonKillroy6 жыл бұрын
@@taragwendolyn >i'd probably pick Tarantino of course you would
@FirebirdCamaro12205 жыл бұрын
@@TheXabl0 that's the commercialization of what's *supposed* to be a form of art for you....😑🤭
@86thfloor6 жыл бұрын
This was awesome - cannot wait for part two!
@RedMageUltra6 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, 25 minutes of Patrick! This is gonna be sweet. *twenty five minutes flies by* WHERE IN THE HELL DID THOSE MINUTES GO!?!
@KaiSosceles6 жыл бұрын
"Last person we recruited...mysteriously died." Whoah, was that a reference to Tony Zhou?
@ChrisTempel6 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for part two! Recently, I've realized that Bay is one of my favorite directors and the look of his movies is something I aspire to. This helps me understand him more.
@IgnoresTrolls5 жыл бұрын
Ok I've got to the Quantum of Solace car chase moment and I have to pause to write this. I have very few memories of Quantum of Solace. But one enduring one is me telling my friends just how much I disliked that scene in the lobby afterwards. I said "They we're trying to convey a sense of confusion, but I just ended up confused." I was younger then. KZbin video essays weren't a thing, I was less cine-literate so I didn't know why. But I knew that scene was terrible. The next time I felt that way was Transformers. This is the first time I've seen this scene mentioned (sorry if you've done it before, I'm watching these in random order) and to see it linked in with Bay is a great. Thanks for validating teenage me.
@thisguydan6 жыл бұрын
Haven't liked some of the recent videos, but this was absolutely freaking fantastic Patrick. Already knew a lot about Bay, still found a lot to learn here. This director case study style of video felt as thoughtful and full of substance as the Every Frame a Painting videos - but different and even better in some aspects. From Bay to Spielberg, Gordon Willis to John Williams, more filmmaker case study style videos like this would be amazing.
@gabrielschroll38245 жыл бұрын
You lost me when you said you think Michael Bay would be the first to admit he wasn't the right director for Pearl Harbor. He would never admit he was wrong. There are things I like about Michael Bay, but I really love longer takes and less camera shake. The dojo fight sequence in The Matrix is the high water mark for me. The John Wick movies are excellent as well. Fast cuts and handheld-style shots are the thorn in my side. Great video. I love this kind of thing, and appreciate the time and planning you put into making this.
@bfish89ryuhayabusa6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I decided to watch this in my car after getting back from work. Had I gone up into my apartment, I'm pretty sure I would have gotten noise complaints about how hard I was laughing when you turned it into Blue Flame Special. I don't like most of his movies as wholes, but digging into what he does well and how that brings in viewers is fascinating.
@bfish89ryuhayabusa6 жыл бұрын
Also, I would compare Bay to Steve Perry, at least for the "maximum impact at all times" bit. When you first hear him, he sounds so soulful. And then you realize that he pretty much only sounds like that, and suddenly it seems much more limited than you thought.
@katarishigusimokirochepona66115 жыл бұрын
"Judgment Bay" hahahahaha. OfMG this is so creative lololol. Love it.
@vtastek6 жыл бұрын
I remember my two unique Bay experience... The first one was BTS footage of cars crashing on a bridge and the whole thing was an action movie by itself without any editing or music, director was Bay. I was so pumped about it, I watched all Bad Boys movies and I am still searching for those scenes. Second time was Transformers 3, sitting in the audience thinking seriously "If we were to mute all characters, then dub them with dialog that makes sense while not changing a single visual, this could be the greatest action movie ever made". I still like The Rock, The Island and Armageddon.
@Alphadanielmon6 жыл бұрын
Really awesome. Anybody can fawn over a great director or hate on a problematic one. Love this approach of yours.
@Lstar072 жыл бұрын
*_Where one Transformer starts and the other ends_* The scene you used as an example immediately after is what I saw at a theater once. I thought it was just me at that point in time while in the theater who had trouble making sense of what was on the screen. I was visually confused trying to sort out Optimus & whoever he was fighting.
@giordanopagotto79404 жыл бұрын
Bay was distinctly Bay from the very Bay-ginning. You're welcome.
@jarrettfinney48825 жыл бұрын
Also, I know I’m commenting a lot, but damn I love this channel!! I’m not even a film guy. Like I doubt I’ll ever make any kind of cool video, it’s just not my thing. I’m a musician, but I really find all of this stuff fascinating, and I really love watching these videos. You even inspire me to get more creative in songwriting. Your passion and love for the art just makes all of this perfect. Truly, I’m a big fan man. Keep up the great work!
@skocko2t7786 жыл бұрын
OMG ! You've got Andy Lau as a patron. Classy if it's THE Andy Lau.
@gesturesmoviehouse48262 ай бұрын
This is a great analysis and also blew my mind because I bought that Herzog tshirt in a thrift store like 12 years ago and have never seen another person wearing it. It’s like, one of my 5 go to tshirts
@veronicasilk84296 жыл бұрын
I have a soft spot for Michael Bay. Sure, his movies can be really dumb at times and Transformers feels like a franchise not suited for him (even he felt disinterested in working on them) but there are a few diamonds in the rough. I still enjoy Pain & Gain, The Rock, The Island, 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi, and the Bad Boys movies even to this day. Sure, everyone likes to point the finger at the guy who "ruined" Transformers, much like how Joel Schumacher was mocked for Batman & Robin, despite the fact that he made several decent movies prior _and_ since that film, Falling Down and Phone Booth are prime examples of this. I'm not saying Michael Bay is the best director or a genius or anything like that, I just don't consider him the worst director out there.
@chrisvongorstinger21426 жыл бұрын
I think Pain & Gain and especially 13 HOURS were his best movies actually. The Island was good, but just a reboot of Logans Run.
@megumintheexplosionqueen2976 жыл бұрын
I feel like Michael Bay gets way too much hate.
@nitromagilou5976 жыл бұрын
I am 100% with you on that.
@LadyPsychic5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I like most of Michael Bay's movies (even the ones other people think are bad, like the Transformers). I think he's overhated.
@swapnilpatwari60525 жыл бұрын
i like his movies
@no.love.for.a.nation3 жыл бұрын
Love this Channel. Binge watching everything!
@Evan-nx9ng6 жыл бұрын
Patrick grew up as a true american auteur
@poisondamage21826 жыл бұрын
wrong channel, and even if it were on the right channel it would be a dead meme
@Evan-nx9ng6 жыл бұрын
@@poisondamage2182 tell that to Zod's snapped neck
@reonero9586 жыл бұрын
İ.
@sudakshraina94332 жыл бұрын
Love how Patrick in most of his appearances, has the camera in a low angle shot.
@emmaclare90666 жыл бұрын
God i love how much effort you put into your videos
@onemanentertainment68834 жыл бұрын
Your Channel is by far the best Channel about Movies
@lawrencecalablaster5686 жыл бұрын
Heck yes, Josh Hartnett.
@Ortex3136 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see you talk about Pain & Gain in part 2. Pain & Gain is a seriously underrated film.
@kevinnigins94885 жыл бұрын
While I’m not a fan of his films, I do appreciate that he has his own style when it comes to film making. I can easily point them out from other films even if I’ve never seen the film before.
@Starklar2 жыл бұрын
could say that bays emphasis is on the action of the story rather than the story of the action.
@stthomasaquarius5 жыл бұрын
The genuine irony of this opening is that you can't help it. You made a short action sequence that was actually good. The spatial geography was clear, and the action made sense. I thought this was supposed to be an imitation of Bay. You got the color palette. But the rest was just too coherent.
@Justin-M6 жыл бұрын
That comic shelf is a total flex and I love it
@SquidwardAF6 жыл бұрын
Is mauler gonna make 5hourlong stream about this?
@MarkyMatey6 жыл бұрын
Given that Patrick was being elitist to those who care about tight plot.
@dmc20766 жыл бұрын
Given that this video discusses the more technical aspects of Bay's filmmaking, probably not. It's a lot harder to fake an understanding of this stuff than it is with writing.
@samwallaceart2885 жыл бұрын
Sure, why not?
@willneisen22456 жыл бұрын
that pain and gain score... i love that movie
@markparkinson63786 жыл бұрын
When someone praises a critically bashed director, I must know why.
@yeahBradley6 жыл бұрын
dude, I have to wait for part two? You are so spectacular Patrick. The real crème de la crème.
@HowToWatchMovies6 жыл бұрын
Ain’t this dude seen The Whole Plate?
@P0W3RH0U536 жыл бұрын
Love your videos so much. Love the attention to detail. Keep em coming!!
@HAZMOLZ5 жыл бұрын
I'VE HEARD MICHAEL BAY ONLY READS SCRIPTS IF EVERYTHING'S WRITTEN IN CAPITAL LETTERS
@nickolasbelliveau70956 жыл бұрын
you continue to impress me, keep it up man
@SlyTF16 жыл бұрын
Michael Bay is my favorite director of all time. He's the main person who got me interested in film in the first place, and I never really understood why people hate him as much as they do. His visual style is next to none.
@megumintheexplosionqueen2976 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on that.
@norbertwielage62223 жыл бұрын
This Michael Bay enlightenment is probably the best. Good work, Patrick ❤
@mattgilbert73475 жыл бұрын
"The Avengers" is basically a Michael Bay film filtered through Joss Whedon's wit and affinity for the source material, plus a little short 'n sharp character development (well..VERY short 'n sharp...almost like a Michael Bay fil *hey wait a minute* )
@krishnanspace3 жыл бұрын
Dougie !
@bobbz646 жыл бұрын
This is most likely your best video. I'm stoked for part 2.
@vespawasp6 жыл бұрын
If Michael Bay was given a good script for his films they would be amazing. The worst problem Ive seen with most of his movies is that they are written subpar. But in terms of spectacle and the use of practical effects embedded within the CGI make a lot of his movies feel well put together but written poorly
@lingeringsnowleaf38296 жыл бұрын
Josh Bowman He had a good scrip with pearl harbor, but as said in the video, it was not Bay style. He place his own creative style above the script of his writer and he would rather die than change himself. Movie making is NOT a factory procedure where you can interchange steps and tools to create an exactly as imagined result. It isn’t as simple as good director + good writer= good film. Movie making is an collaborative endevour that everyone in the crew, from the director to the random VFX guy, put their own creative touch on. The director usually has the largest says but that is not enough. I remeber Tarantino once said that, and i rephrase, a director’s job is not to make his vision come true, it is to decribe his vision to others so they can create for him. Micheal Bay is not a bad director because he has no style or vision, he’s a bad director because he put his above those of others.
@dvillines266 жыл бұрын
Pain and Gain is great.
@lingeringsnowleaf38296 жыл бұрын
Duane Villines it’s decent but im not sure great is the word to describe it. If it great then what about Alien or Seven?
@avex136 жыл бұрын
@@lingeringsnowleaf3829 I don't think Pearl Harbor script is good. It has some very fundamental problems. Affleck's character is a mess, and the last act with the Doolittle raid should have never been there. I would also say that Bay is pretty much guilty of most of his "bad script" problems. For one of the Transformers (I believe it was 4th) the writer explicitly said that writing for Michael Bay was "different", and that he actually didn't care about logic all that much. You also have Revenge of the Fallen, which Bay mostly wrote. That's probably the purest "Michael Bay movie" ever made.
@kostajovanovic37116 жыл бұрын
+Malcador the Sigillite alien is great, seven is good
@Goldaction0 Жыл бұрын
Bay will always be my favorite film director! Ever since Bad Boys.
@lucainvernizzi97156 жыл бұрын
These are very compelling arguments about how Micheal Bay is an Auteur in the original sense of the word, with clear esthetic, key ideas and a recognizible hand. Problem is, that's not the critique: the critique is that his art sucks. In an era where movies and generally art tends to be indutrialized, grinded into small, same size, digestable bits, I can understand people watching at Bay and say: "Hey, at least he's unique, he is what I think an artist should be, he has a view and stick to it. What he does is artistic and only his own." But let's not forget that something being "true" art doesn't forbit said art to be bad. Techinically, philosophically and intellectually. And that's the case for Bay. Disclaimer: I understand perfectly well the "people" that I mentioned have probably an understanding of movies and visual art that is miles ahead of me, I just like the "Bay-ssue" cause it underlines a key concept in art, and a lot of interesting comments and opinion usually comes out of it.
@ImmenseDisciple6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have to agree. The video is excellent, and there's no value in being pompous or sneering about "low-brow" entertainment - but genuinely, of all the directors I've ever heard included in conversations about auteurs (even those who have *extremely* distinct visual styles and over-dependence on certain flourishes or tropes) no other comes anywhere close to being so utterly devoid of nuance across every project (very nearly every scene) of their career. Van Gogh's work includes over a dozen paintings of sunflowers - but he wouldn't be remembered as a master if they were the only thing he was able to paint...
@kthemaster19996 жыл бұрын
Ok virgin
@lucainvernizzi97156 жыл бұрын
@@kthemaster1999 Oh, somebody did bad chattychatty about your favourite kid show and now you are bubu? Here, take a bandaid and go back to mammy, she'll take care of you...
@oof-rr5nf6 жыл бұрын
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@oof-rr5nf6 жыл бұрын
@@kthemaster1999 Literally nothing wrong with that but okay I guess. Troll away!
@Liam_Mellon5 жыл бұрын
There's a clear pattern here, especially with the first three. Each one, on the script level, seems to be nothing special - another lethal weapon knockoff, another die hard knockoff, another big disaster movie - but in each case, Bay elevates each one with his considerable skill and unique style. I'm willing to bet that if any other director had taken on those projects, the finished films would've been completely forgettable and thus forgotten.
@nitromagilou5976 жыл бұрын
I like Michael Bay movies as a guilty pleasure.
@dexterdajuice69135 жыл бұрын
Starting to love the channel.
@clashcitywannabe4 жыл бұрын
Pearl Harbor prompted Roger Ebert to write the most scathingly funny review I have ever read, "Pearl Harbor is a two-hour movie squeezed into three hours, about how on Dec. 7, 1941, the Japanese staged a surprise attack on an American love triangle."
@ash92806 жыл бұрын
You have convinced me that The Last Jedi would have been much better under Michael Bay's direction than Rian Johnson. Thank you! But, seriously, great video.
@UnderdogRecords916 жыл бұрын
Michael Bay never stopped directing commercials. All of his movies are a series of shots aiming for maximum effect without any meaning, substance or personality to back it up. To bad he always chooses scripts that don't deliver those missing ingredients. "The Island" probably came the closest and for all of it's flaws, it's probably the closest Bay ever got to making a "good movie".
@jordanromesburg68196 жыл бұрын
Nah, Pain & Gain is a legitimately good film
@Metaphizzle6 жыл бұрын
And _The Island_ was really just a ripoff of the low-budget '70s film _Clonus_ (aka _Parts: The Clonus Horror_ as most MST3K fans remember it).
@charleslonon92076 жыл бұрын
i have just paused this video at 12:52 because the idea of just inserting an episode of Blue Flame Special in there is genius!
@MrJonnyPepper6 жыл бұрын
How can you hate the government but love the military
@jp38136 жыл бұрын
Tom Hanks in Saving Private Ryan: "We're not here to do the decent thing, we're here to follow fucking orders!"
@MrPtrlix6 жыл бұрын
Far right-wing anarchism.
@ShatteredGlass9165 жыл бұрын
Govt image: full of corruption, manipulations, unfair policy makers, vote over people Military: actually fight for the country's safety (in one way or another) At least this is how i see it lol
@luckymig16036 жыл бұрын
a BOLD choice for a video subject Patrick, and you are executing it beautifully!
@SquidwardAF6 жыл бұрын
it's so dense, every single image has so many things going on
@ataru1212125 жыл бұрын
sold after the first lense flair. subscribed at the end of the video.
@battleupsaber4626 жыл бұрын
Transformers was my favourite childhood movie, so i have this man to thank for making me who I am today. Let it be known I wont see Bumblebee unless they #ReleaseTheBayCut.
@octopus84206 жыл бұрын
How old are you then? 14?
@markparkinson63786 жыл бұрын
I'm confused. Are you talking about the '80s film or the 2007 film? I mean, I enjoyed the 2007 film, but I would be interested in knowing where you stand on it.
@errantcoyote056 жыл бұрын
And to think my favorite childhood movie was Up in Smoke (my dad's favorite)
@YTRingoster6 жыл бұрын
@@octopus8420 Well... I also grew up with the Bay Transformers movies, and I'm 21...
@octopus84206 жыл бұрын
@@YTRingoster 2007? Could have sworn it started around 2011
@mazimadu6 жыл бұрын
10:33 "like Micheal bay is a Pokemon evolving onto his final form" You know, as stupid and cliche as that line was, with Michael Bay it makes *SO MUCH SENSE* ! Almost too much sense
@horaciosi6 жыл бұрын
The Island was good, Pain & Gain was good, 13 Hours was good and The Rock was fucking awesome.
@veronicasilk84296 жыл бұрын
I love those movies, too.
@Phoenix35666 жыл бұрын
I had youtube running through my subscriptions in the background. When this video started, I knew instantly int was a (H) Willems vid. That's how strong your style is.
@Phi16180335 жыл бұрын
If I were a 12 year old boy I'd probably think Michael Bay is the greatest film director of all time.
@OhCrazyEggs6 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis! Going to watch Part 2 right now!! Patrick you are a genius!
@Dorian_sapiens6 жыл бұрын
Argh, that cliffhanger ending!
@Windows-sl7eo6 жыл бұрын
Finally another Michael Bay video I been dreading for one for so long
@guy_incognito6 жыл бұрын
Great essay! Can't wait for part two. I'm sick of hearing about old hacks like Kubrick and Kurosawa and Tarkovsky and Welles -- but when are you going to pay homage to the god Roland Emmerich? And yes, I am trolling. Still, great essay!
@FranciscoLopez-vq1fs6 жыл бұрын
Dude, you’re amazing, thank you for these videos!
@edvaira68915 жыл бұрын
Bay has made Three good films...The Rock (which does have some problems, like incoherent action editing), The Island (very underrated, dorky but fun) and 13 Hours...outside of that, Crap!!!!!...Added to that, he has a terrible feel for dialogue and he directs actors poorly (one can name the number of solid acting talents COMPLETELY WASTED on Several dozen hands...)...Plus, apparently, he’s a nasty, sexist, racist asshole!
@petercarioscia91896 жыл бұрын
@00:46 woah, I always thought your last name was Williams...never once realized it was Willems until that MiB said it out loud
@timothyfuller6836 жыл бұрын
Michael Bay is a great cinematographer. He can tell amazing stories visually. As far as character development or story progression though, he is weak. Very weak. He seems to lack the ability to tell in-depth stories with characters that can be related to. I think because he doesn’t understand characters on a deeper level. It doesn’t make him a bad director, but it does mean he has limits to his craft.
@LFPAnimations Жыл бұрын
There is something freeing about just admitting that you make movies to be spectacle instead of a thoughtful piece of art. I think to a certain extent Nolan kind of does this too, except he is also capable of delivering a decent story at the same time. Interstellar's plot wasn't the best, but that is one of my favourite movies of all time. It has a kickass score and visuals like nothing else.